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  • Oroborous
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    Duke video

    Finally checked it last night, wow.
    Puts a whole new spin on things!
    These shows just got even better…

    Definitely overheads, but that doesn’t surprise as it’s the first 2 or three shows that sound different.

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    Drums and microphones

    Check the 4-12-78 video, maybe there’s a good shot of the drum setup.

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    4/14/78

    See how this one stands up..
    Curious about the sound stage and recording consistency?

    EDIT: this one mos def moved up a notch from the one previous time I heard it.
    Really sweet show, perhaps most well played consistent of all so far?
    Perhaps same with the mix/audio…definitely cymbals now, and everyone is in their proper soundstage position etc, good sheet Mon!
    Overall, Maybe not some of the previous fireworks but very few lows. Only Ooops, and a small one, I can think of was in the otherwise delightful Dancing! It’s like their coalescing or morphing into a cohesive beast, but one with patience and finesse, and having a fine time doing so!
    Eager to see how the 15 resonates after this one?
    Mañana…

    Overhead mics: yeah, I’m well aware what they are/for, i was trying to imply that “if” she hadn’t used them at some of the shows, then that might explain less prevalent cymbals…or maybe they were used but turned down…
    since the pictures aren’t dated it’s hard to determine. In fact the pic on the last page shows Bob playing an Ibanez Musician Series guitar, which from the pictures I’ve seen (if dated correctly) he used from 5/5/78 until Egypt. So is that picture not from this tour, or did he use it at some point on the tour?
    I’ve seen pics of Jerry trying one out also, but no idea when?

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    4/15 Dap sounds better?

    Rolling into the 15th hot! After second set from the 14th.

    B.E. is all over the place. Funny at times! LIG cooks!!

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    Drum mic's

    Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

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    4 11 78

    Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

    Scarlet Fire

    GBtGD

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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Kiel Auditorium

Roll away the dew

There is a glitch in the first few minutes of Franklin's

Itll be interesting to see how they patch that in the box set

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First time checking out the whoke shows from this run.
Of course I’ll need to fire up Go To Nassau later, haven’t heard that in too long!

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Mighty tasty

It has indeed been a long time since I heard GTN

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Love go to Nassau.

Man, we are due for some 1980 to be released. Will it ever happen again?

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Part of the soundtrack of my younger days with his 80s hits

"No one here gets out alive"

Indeed

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Family Dog

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Immediately makes me think of the first show “that got away”
Crotchfester 9/1/79. Greg Kihn and the Goodrats opened.

I was still only 16 so the rents were not gonna let me go “all the way to Rochester” (that’d have to wait a year) to do anything, let alone go with a bunch of known “drug addicts” lol But I did hear all about it from said DAs, including how the GoodRats gave out these little toy Rats (think Florida Panthers) as a promotion, which of course the unruly east coast Dead Heads, who had had enough warm up noise and wanted the Dead, began pelting the band with the Rats, literally forcing them off the stage!
“When you go down to deep Elem…the DH will put you on the rocks”
Now on one hand I’m sure it was hilarious, if you were there, but on the other hand kinda embarrassing. But that was unfortunately often the case when promoters picked poorly. As kind as DH mostly were, we weren’t always polite to openers. Another ugly one I recall was poor Joan Jet opening up for Bobby and the Midnights: booed her off…

Anyway, 4 winds Greg Khin

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5/16/80 of course!

Dammit PF, we went and checked out some GK tunes to refresh our old synapses, and now TOO and myself can’t get that GD ear crack from the Breakup song outta our heads ; ) lol

Why earcrack you say? Because its almost as addictive and damaging as crack!
Ok, Jerry’s 5/16 High Time might just erase it lol

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Waiting at Kidd Valley Burgers for my order

On the PA

Love Unlimited Orchestra
Love Theme

What a fantastic production

That wahwah pedal....

Feeling like a kid again

:)))

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...was wandering...

and all of a sudden; oh, yes 1974-05-25 UCSB outdoorstadium is where it's at

...like the wild geese in the west

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on a side note:
finished this weekend's reading assignment
"BEAR: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III"
highly recommended for even the casual HEAD,
and perhaps less of the embellishments than Mr. Scully's book

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You should follow that up with “Owsley and Me”

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8/19/80

a show that is truly release-worthy

44 years ago

wow

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Just played this Neil Young album. It and ‘Tonight’s the night’ alternate as my favourite NY studio album. Just to be tangentially political, I noticed the Democratic convention is in Chicago and it reminded me of someone I worked with many years ago. He flew into Chicago in 1968 to begin postdoctoral studies and was amazed/horrified to see so many heavily armed people about. Then he got to where he was staying and saw what was happening via the television. An interesting start to his time there.

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Jerry garcia's recording of Cigarettes and Coffee right now and more 90s JGB today, taking it easy.

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Again money out the window because of his whole-hearted, over-the-top recommendation of "BEAR: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III by Mr T, sorry meant uncle.

I'm an audio book man, so I got the audio book. Cost 15,000 bucks!! But apparently read by Owsley. Anyone know his voice and can verify when I get!

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Haven’t heard this sweetness in fo ev er!

It’s good Dennis…not sure it’s $15k good lol.

8/19/80: thanks for the tip PF. That show is on my current to do list, prolly in the next day or so. Look forward to it!

Good lord Colin, nothing like a good first impression!

Earcrack: got another dose today via some Macca hits.
Guys an Earcrack machine! Lol it started with TOO waking up with the outro to ‘Listen To What The Man Said’ the Wonder of it All part…out of nowhere, hasn’t heard it recently etc, bizarre, just woke up with that part loudly in her head?

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as always, I recommend you don't look at the set list ahead of time.

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9 19 90

Wow

Another great show

A second MSG box, please

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...get me day started with a little...you just gotta poke around...
1983-10-22 Carrier Dome Syracuse NY

...don't tell me this town ain't got no heart

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9/8/90

Sorry teach about the poor spelling, I missed school that day…cause I was peakin ; )

Edit: hey Joey, what’d ya think of those Richfields?

Dbl Edit: Aaaaa, Carrier dome shows, good shows, fun trips, awesome fully stocked rented bus first two years, unfortunately a terrible venue…

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Previously enjoyed 8/16 via GOBC, so onto 8/17…

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Has anyone been to Hulaween in Live Oak, Florida?

Comments?

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Yes PF, 8/19/80 is mos def a fine 1980 offering!
Not the best recording, not the worst, but a fun show and great set list, thank goodness, these 1980 sets are very repetitive so getting burnt and thus really enjoyed this show for that alone! Really dug the post drumz sequence especially that sweet CAT, and Phil on the jam after, Foe Git a bout it!
In fact, Phil’s been killing it a lot this tour…go figure ; )

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1972...1st time listen on the archive; it's #139581...Berkeley Community Theater...
with Mr. Bill Graham intro and a Dark Star,
so without further delay,
I'm OFF...

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1977-06-04 Menke. Inglewood CA

Its good. :)

Edit: kind of like a one off show, even just looking at the setlist it seems like they really went all out for these people.

Great show - early on had Set II from a very fine audience source that seemed to have a bootleg lp 1st(?) generation in the lineage. Not sure what the original pull may be on the archive (been 15+ years since last listened to the cassette) but seemed to be from the balcony. Should a could a been at this run. Two friends chose better and experienced it. The night after (8/22) I think was Venetian Night - illuminated boats and much partying on the lake. Chris was raving about the run and I remember him recounting the beauty of that somewhat odd third night Set II. So the next day we were headed to Alpine for the first GD show at that unknown (to us) but eventually legendary venue in beautiful southern Wisconsin. My 4th show. Picked up our tics that morning at a small ticketmaster outlet in the northwest suburbs and away we went. Those were the days.

Right now listening to the Mason Taylor aud (131445), Set II - Rooster > China Cat Rider > I Know You Rider. I loved this sequence from the get go and right now it is every bit as crazy good as i remembered. An all time bluecrow favorite. Love that Bobby breaks out the return of Rooster for the Chicago audience. Excellent version. And a note perfect segue into a ripping China Cat > Rider. Those first notes of China Cat and the audience going crazy. Whole second set smokes - on the jam out of Estimated now. If the vault soundboard quality is there I would love to see this show released!!

edit - did not realize the Mason Taylor source is cut at Comes Time - gotta jump to another source.

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Chi CA go, Chi Ca go, so far so good, first set.
Perhaps a step back from the 19th?
Looks like I’ll have to switch to an Aud for part do…

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Hartford Civic Center