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  • Oroborous
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    RE: 9/21/74 Dew

    It’s very unusual PF…perhaps the quietest Dew I’ve heard?
    Thought it was real Lysergic at first with the unparalleled gentle dynamics, but then they just sorta end it, thereby not achieving the liftoff and the powerful other end of the dynamic spectrum you’d expect.
    Meaning, if they’d added a more normal, big finale, loud and powerful ending, to such a delicate little prelude, we might be trash talking goat lol.
    But it just doesn’t really take flight, like JG was too high and all of a sudden after 15 minutes, wanted it to be over. Very unusual and interesting…
    Whole tour was different.
    Big difference in the Piano audio from 5/12 until 9/21. Much better.
    Pretty decent show and audio, except Bob is extremely low in the mix.
    Plenty of Phil though lol
    Ok, onward to 7/12/89!

    Edit: Chula Rocks!

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    Obeah - glad you liked the story. Recounting it all these years later has me thinking I need to try and track down the mystery taper. I'll report back (it may be awhile.) Despite my Chicago area roots and a love of history, I must admit that the history associated with the International Amphitheatre is not something I was familiar with. I was in grade school at the time Pigasus the Immortal was nominated and have no memory of the '68 Convention nor had I ever heard of Pigasus until now. Looks like the Pigasus nomination took place at another locale in the city (Chicago Civic Center later known as Richard J Daley Center, which is how I knew it later). A close friend's older brother was a class of '68 valedictorian (I think) in HS along front range and won a trip to attend the '68 Dem Convention. Total straight arrow guy. Came back shocked and completely changed by what he saw and went full counterculture.

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    thanks Bluecrow / Unusual Occurences in the Desert

    I really appreciate you taking the time to share that story esp since it's not the first time. You told it in a very evocative way, too. Personally I've never lived in a high desert town but I grew up in SoCal near enough to the Antelope Valley to have visited regularly, so at least I have a feel for the flavor. So that story really resonated. And as to questionable AUDs, well, I'm a sucker for 11-11-1970, as I've expressed elsewhere, so that just adds to the mystique. All the more so when there's no other way to take that ride (I'd like to have it one more time...)

    I checked and don't have 7/25 in my collection so I will indeed go and find that GEMS version. Thanks for the tip.

    I had to go look up the Chicago Int'l Amphitheater. Never realized it figured in some notable events of 1968 including the 'Pigasus' incident. I went and looked at some photos of the venue, checked out its histoyr, and it reminded me a bit of the Cow Palace in SF due to the showing of livestock. I wonder just how many ice rinks were venues for the Grateful Dead over the years...

    Anyway thanks again. I meant to reply sooner but got busy late Wednesday night posting about that '70 Brooklyn Bowl show, and then despite yesterday being the 50th anniversary of the 7/25/74 show, I was unexpectedly too busy to get over here to post.

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    Chula Vista BABY!

    got up this morning with a hankerin' for some 1985, 3 seconds later, oh yeah...
    September 15th @ Devore Field

    west L.A. fade away,
    here's one chance you say
    she tries to live by the golden rule
    said you TREAT other people RIGHT
    people probably treat you COOL

    enjoy your weekend if you can, and...
    treat other people right!

    Peace for All
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    Grease is the only cure for a hangover.......

    Morning rockers, happy Friday!!!

    Right now? Princeton, April 17 1971. Why? C'mon!!! Pigpen. Greasy is as greasy does.

    Man - life in general - seems irrelevant to the workings of the universe: a mere smudge of water, grease, and carbon on a pinpoint planet circling a star of no special consequence.....

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    Embrace the grease, if any, and look fresh and human........
    P.S. Still waiting on 51.............

  • TN John
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    Winterland

  • proudfoot
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    9 21 74

    Please post what your opinion is of the show's Morning Dew, Oro

  • bluecrow
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    Not right now . . .

    on recent long drive to/from project area, the 2 shows that really stood out in road music were DiP 19 - 10/19/73 Oklahoma City Fairgrounds and 10/16/89 (Nightfall of Diamonds, Meadowlands). Disc 3 from 10/19 is one of my favorites of anything released to date. I love love love the Dark Star > Mind Left Body Jam!!

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    6-17-91 vinyl

    Spinning now.

    Yes, a galley proof is a test printing that is checked for errors and corrected before going into the final published version.
    Much easier these days with computers compared to setting the letters for a printing press.

  • Oroborous
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    9/21/74

    Hitting warp drive: P&N>PITB….oh my 😱

    Maybe rehash 7/25 later…been kinda trying to save it for, ya know….

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from Live In Gdansk

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Jefferson Airplane. Jerry plays on it. I'd forgotten how good this was

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8/21 was another enjoyable show with another fun set list etc.

Ok, now onto 8/23, if I finish it’ll be another DHB, and will get me complete for 1980 up to the Warfield run.
It’s been fun/interesting, but ready to move on, just:
“ I dunno what I’m going for, but I’m gonna go for it for sure!”
Saving last of 69, 89, for end of year, rest of 84 for October, so maybe back to fall 94? Ah well, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings…

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Spinning now.
Sounds pretty good except my pressing has various snaps, crackles, and pops.

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Autzen Stadium

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...a little grace...1987-09-23 spectrum in phila with a happy grinning mr. garcia doin' a jammin' version "La Bamba"

y arriba, y arriba
por ti sere, por ti sere, por ti sere

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On a hot streak of downloads.

These guys put out some great shit, on the archive if interested.

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Literally, out for morning walk, down by the creek, as the winds are playing the willows : )

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Very nice - some favorite music is wind in trees - like a big old ponderosa or cottonwood.

Right now here in bluecrow land its the 8/3/69 Dark Star at the Family Dog with mystery guest musicians. Not sure how this escaped my attention so long.

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80 has been fun, but I’m so ahead of shed u ual, and PF keeps talkin bout fall 90, another crater to fill, so, well, just gotta poke around ; )

8/3/69: is that the one with the Sax and fiddle?
Yeah, that DS is muy bien! Good show/Sheet Mon!

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Onward!
Last one was hot, how will this one compare?
(Nice Usborne matrixes)

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Baltimore Civic Center

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Yeah Oro, that one with the sax and electric violin! Listened from Dark Star through end of show. First time. Right in the sweet spot and just exactly perfect. The 2 mystery guests are excellent and fully integrated in The One. Loved it. Time and again just slack jawed at how cool this is.

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Saw the date coming up and I've been listening to an old fav, 8/21/72 Berkeley Community Theater.

I figured I'd get through it yesterday at work but things were unexpectedly busy so I only got a few songs into set I. Had to keep going today. Nice problem to have.

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Gonna do 9 7 90 really soon

I havent heard Europe 90 except for 11 1 90 set 2 a long time ago on cassette and a soso 10 31 90 cassette set 2...i think there is a Scarlet Fire. I can still hear the opening percussion to VOTC from 11 1 in my mind

Looking forward to hearing that tour

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Oakland Auditorium

Was chatting with Gary Farseer last weekend on the greatness of this show. I figured I'd give it another listen today on my quarterly trip to the heart failure clinic.

Also, I scored a brand new Sunshine box set which is out for delivery today. Shroom Saturday is looking like it will be great tomorrow!

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Enjoy that HCS Box TN John. It is spectacular! Sound quality is A+. 6/10 might be one of my favorite shows. Can't get enough of that one.

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Onward!

Can’t believe I didn’t go to these Philly shows, the rectum was sorta a go to for us. Somehow saw more shows there then any other venue.
Guessing between relatively new job and still tying to deal with the debt accrued by taking the “20 year old” to Cali shows in June, and not getting paid back a nickel!. I’m sure I had to cover most of Richfield too lol
…it’s a real shame they gotta cost so much” lol.
Aaaa, but looking back, it was worth every dollar…
Se la vie!

E90: me neither PF. I have part of 11/01 on my server, but that’s all I’ve heard, yet!

EDIT: TN with the big score, and it ain’t even hockey season yet ; )
And itsssssss fry yea! Too soon for one of those Oktoberfest DV?

OBEAH: love it, gonna moa some veggies, just as soon as I get back from the heart attack machine! When the going gets weird…

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9/12: good, but I felt like it was a bit off the first two shows?

Fun set list, and most certainly some really high moments (like the whole D/S/cabin boy/dew), but perhaps like some of fall 89, going along good then occasionally some muffed execution. So good but maybe not RJ? I’ll definitely have to check these out again! But, now onto 9/14/90, the big apple, don’t mind the maggots, sha Doo bie…

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Deer Creek

Sunshine box came today. Gonna try to get a couple of shows ripped tonight for my cosmic adventure tomorrow.

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Listened to it in the car this week.

Note that it’s in 30Trips.

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Check your CD’s for glue.

The glue can be removed with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip.
Once cleaned don’t put the CD’s back in the cardboard holders.

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Anniversary listen.

It’s CD3 of the expanded Two From The Vault.

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The Octoberfest will be flowing tonight!
You would think they would have to let us know soon about this year's MUATM.

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TNJ - congrats on obtaining that great box set. Enjoy! Not sure you listened in on the cd quality issues BITD - some of those boxes, mine included, had a whole lot of problems, especially glue on the playing surface. Like ConeKid said, rubbing alcohol (70%) - also antiseptic isopropyl alcohol (91%) - will remove that stuff. Hopefully your box is one of the clean ones.

As luck and synchronicity would have it, in just last few days I was finally able to successfully rip every disc to my HD - initially 6 or so had skips (always in key jams). Had never had that issue ripping any cd before with that external drive and feel it had to do with the cds on some basic level. An unrelated software issue that I finally was able to resolve had me revisit ripping those discs with a different external drive and to my great delight and surprise they all seemed to rip clean and I've been dancing back and forth between the 5 shows listening to sections here and there, some that had problems to verify they're good now and some just cause I want to hear them. HCS was a dream box for me - I think I called for it at least a year before it was announced (not that I ever expected it to happen) - so to get a box with a lot of quality issues was "sort of" a real big problem. Along with glue and scratches, none of the discs were properly/fully inserted in their slot and so they all were in a flexed position and I wondered if the ripping issue was related to that. Quite frustrated, I transferred them all to jewel cases and basically they went untouched for almost a year until these last few days. And now all is better.

Currently playing 5/20/73 Santa Barbara, the Here Comes Sunshine from Disc 2.

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Almost at the end

Fantastic show

Even though Grumpy Grumpkins here isn't thrilled that Throwing Stones bubbles up

The music prior to that is really good

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Beautiful run of shows

I imagine it must have cathartic to play so well after the useless tragedy of Brent dying

God Bless the Grateful Dead

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Hey BC, I also have these CDs in jewel cases as the slip cases are not the best.

Let's hope the new box has better cases. I always liked the cases in both Spring 90 box sets and the PNW box.

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Iowa State Fairgrounds

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Most of my discs weren't even fully inserted into the sleeves. Got the first 2 shows ripped, and Casey Jones back where it belongs on the first show.

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8/24/68 Two from the vault
8/24/19 TTB Layla (later on)

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14 was sweet, so onto 15

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a best of Joy Division

Absolutely tremendous band

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Me and Mrs. Grumpkins are going to a Santana and Counting Crows show

Saw Santana open for GD in 88 and 91

Tonight makes a hat trick

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McFarlin Auditorium, SMU

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A real epic. With these vinyl box sets I like to just play 2 sides at a time, so it takes a day or so to listen to the whole show. The L.P. version features a run through Seastones, and the next track they play is El Paso. I can't think of any other band that would play two pieces of music so different from each other one after the other in concert.

It would have been interesting if they had incorporated Seastones type music within some of their jams. It always seems to sit outside the shows in which it was played. A first set. Then an electronic blizzard. Then normal service is resumed when the second set starts. It would have been very interesting if they had included some of these sounds in Dark Star, for example.
The closest they got to it may have been Unbroken Chain on Mars Hotel.

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6/8/77 :)

Man I should go for 8/23/68 myself...

It looks like TN is just ripping right through a who's who of official releases. It would be too dangerous to stop now....

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Just kicking off Dave's 24, 8/25/72

Last night of a legendary four-night stand at the BCT, and it's the show before Veneta... the setlist doesn't jump off the page at you, but 8/21 and 8/24 more than sufficed to scratch that itch, and besides you know this one's going to be lovely from the very opening notes. Entire band just playing well and having fun.

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Ready for 8-24-72 to be released Dave.
Or make it a BCT mini Box.

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I love this release (DaP 24). Been awhile and it sounds great. The Other One is fire. Jerry goofing with Professor Bob before El Paso after Bob warbles (a faint) Frozen Logger and tries to start a history lesson - "This ain't Kentucky man, it's Berkeley!" Followed shortly by "He had roses for lunch" which may be my favorite line of banter ever. Release the rest of the run (or even include this show with plangent!) and throw in 8/14 and 15 from the year before for a sweet BCT box.

9/16/90 - I (think) I got this on tape muy pronto BITD or maybe heard it on the GDH. Definitely remember listening with big ears to the Set II, with the space jams out of He's Gone and sandwiching SOTM just huge. Maybe the first post-Brent stuff I heard and it was way deep. I'm pretty sure I bought this as DiP 9 but when I looked for it in the collection last year (cause I wanted to revisit it) it was MIA.

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My son installed a new hard drive and a new dvd/cd writer in this pc yesterday while I was at work. This baby flies now!

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...from Good Time People...The Grateful Dead"
1972-08-24 Berkeley Community Theatre
luv these '72 Bird Song's, this one's the 20th live version

Peace for All!
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DiP 25 New Haven.
Raucous Jack Straw to start with Jerry doing that '78 "arrgh" growling thing in there. Within a very short time before the second song Bobby is already taunting him with a "We are all waiting patiently for Jerry to get his act together and decide what he's going to do." To which Jerry can be easily heard off mike saying "Cut all your crap asshole." Then they do They Love Each Other. Do they?
Cheers
The sound quality on this is superb!

It might mean he had doses for lunch ! I always seem to notice Bob Weirs playing more in 1972 shows than from any other year. Whether he was higher in the mix then I know not. Exceptional guitar playing - that I do know. Nobody else played like that.
I must say, I am very impressed with the way people zip through shows on here.

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Listening to Archives Vol 3 to prepare for Vol 4 next month. Before that I played my favourite’Pink Floyd’ album, The Madcap Laughs by Syd Barrett.