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    ...Return To

    oakland
    oct 31st 1991
    today

    PEACE for ALL
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  • jonathan918@GD
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    John Cutler SBD's

    I think the mix JC had with the boards from 94-95, to my ears, sound fantastic. It doesn't seem many are in circulation but the "true" boards that are have a very "clean" mix, IMHO. I really wish the great spring 1993 tour was recorded in this way, but alas they werent. Also, I thinnk the drums/space segment from shows really showcase the potentail of this particular recording process. Mickey and Billy were some real MVP's in those final two years of the band

    Just my 2 cents

    Rock on, gang!

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    DaP43 - 11.02.69 & 12.26.69

    Because it's way Way WAY better than engaging with anything else that might be available/ongoing this evening.

    GBtGOGD

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    double post

  • proudfoot
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    7/29/74 bonus disc

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    "Tempest" by Bob Dylan. How come he has made so many great albums ? Most people I know haven't made any.

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    Hoping DHB🤞

    A lot to do today!
    3/17/95 currently
    3/18&19/95 Shlater…

    RE: Late era SBs…
    I’m guessing John Cutler wasn’t letting folks patch in direct for whatever reason. I would certainly assume they made recordings.
    I.e., Like the DATs used for the released DaPs…
    Yeah, Harry Popick, the longtime monitor guy (at big mix desk left of Phil) might have been eventually delegated to making recordings? That would make it less likely for direct feeds to tapers…I’m guessing he must have had a master mix for guests or himself (he can hear any of the mixes individually or any combination) since the individual musician mixes were custom, which often did not include all the other musicians and definitely would have had things in their mix at different levels so a feed like that would probably sound pretty goofy to a civilian? i.e., smidge of kick drum, low bass, loud vocals, yours a tad louder, JG, no Vinny…you can customize it any way you like.
    Now if someone had a comprehensive, balanced mix, THAT, could sound good, but in my experience, most musicians don’t want everything, or certain things up in their mix, if in it at all.
    BITD we didn’t have in ears, so you often would just put certain things in your floor monitor mix, since you’d still hear most of the instruments etc from their amps (and often the PA) I mostly had vocals, a little kick drum, and any acoustic instruments I couldn’t other wise hear. It gets easily cluttered up so you learn to use just what you really need. But they of course were on a whole different level utilizing dozens of channels all custom mixed to their preferences.
    Very interesting though? We’ll have to learn more about it.
    There definitely are monitor mixes on arch labeled as SBs, but you’d have to think they have better stuff than that in the vault.
    PLUS!, remember, this is the digital age now and folks were starting to bring in some serious digital gear by the end…so I can see the band not allowing direct hi res board feeds to such gear, which you could only really guarantee by not having any direct feeds. Pesky DH pranksters would find a way given the opportunity lol
    Berry interesting…

    Oh, yeah they had a talk feature so they could communicate verbally if need be, which since certain individuals didn’t have everyone in there mix could be helpful,., it was fun when occasionally that would accidentally get into the main PA mix and we’d hear it out front.

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    ...in phl
    aug 4th 1974

    keep smilin'

    PEACE for ALL!
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  • icecrmcnkd
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    Many/most that I’ve heard that are labeled ‘SBD’ are actually ear monitor.
    I read years ago that the ear monitors were run by a separate soundboard on side stage which is why you can hear the band members talk to each other.
    I don’t think that they sound as good as a true ‘SBD’.
    I suspect that the true SBD’s do exist, due to the ease at the time of just recording to a HD, and they are being withheld.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    2-27-69 vinyl

    Didn’t get to it on the anniversary so doing it now.

    12-inch Klipsch subwoofer makes Phil the star.

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from Live In Gdansk

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Jefferson Airplane. Jerry plays on it. I'd forgotten how good this was

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8/21 was another enjoyable show with another fun set list etc.

Ok, now onto 8/23, if I finish it’ll be another DHB, and will get me complete for 1980 up to the Warfield run.
It’s been fun/interesting, but ready to move on, just:
“ I dunno what I’m going for, but I’m gonna go for it for sure!”
Saving last of 69, 89, for end of year, rest of 84 for October, so maybe back to fall 94? Ah well, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings…

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Spinning now.
Sounds pretty good except my pressing has various snaps, crackles, and pops.

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Autzen Stadium

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...a little grace...1987-09-23 spectrum in phila with a happy grinning mr. garcia doin' a jammin' version "La Bamba"

y arriba, y arriba
por ti sere, por ti sere, por ti sere

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On a hot streak of downloads.

These guys put out some great shit, on the archive if interested.

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Literally, out for morning walk, down by the creek, as the winds are playing the willows : )

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Very nice - some favorite music is wind in trees - like a big old ponderosa or cottonwood.

Right now here in bluecrow land its the 8/3/69 Dark Star at the Family Dog with mystery guest musicians. Not sure how this escaped my attention so long.

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80 has been fun, but I’m so ahead of shed u ual, and PF keeps talkin bout fall 90, another crater to fill, so, well, just gotta poke around ; )

8/3/69: is that the one with the Sax and fiddle?
Yeah, that DS is muy bien! Good show/Sheet Mon!

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Onward!
Last one was hot, how will this one compare?
(Nice Usborne matrixes)

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Baltimore Civic Center

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Yeah Oro, that one with the sax and electric violin! Listened from Dark Star through end of show. First time. Right in the sweet spot and just exactly perfect. The 2 mystery guests are excellent and fully integrated in The One. Loved it. Time and again just slack jawed at how cool this is.

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Saw the date coming up and I've been listening to an old fav, 8/21/72 Berkeley Community Theater.

I figured I'd get through it yesterday at work but things were unexpectedly busy so I only got a few songs into set I. Had to keep going today. Nice problem to have.

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Gonna do 9 7 90 really soon

I havent heard Europe 90 except for 11 1 90 set 2 a long time ago on cassette and a soso 10 31 90 cassette set 2...i think there is a Scarlet Fire. I can still hear the opening percussion to VOTC from 11 1 in my mind

Looking forward to hearing that tour

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Oakland Auditorium

Was chatting with Gary Farseer last weekend on the greatness of this show. I figured I'd give it another listen today on my quarterly trip to the heart failure clinic.

Also, I scored a brand new Sunshine box set which is out for delivery today. Shroom Saturday is looking like it will be great tomorrow!

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Enjoy that HCS Box TN John. It is spectacular! Sound quality is A+. 6/10 might be one of my favorite shows. Can't get enough of that one.

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Onward!

Can’t believe I didn’t go to these Philly shows, the rectum was sorta a go to for us. Somehow saw more shows there then any other venue.
Guessing between relatively new job and still tying to deal with the debt accrued by taking the “20 year old” to Cali shows in June, and not getting paid back a nickel!. I’m sure I had to cover most of Richfield too lol
…it’s a real shame they gotta cost so much” lol.
Aaaa, but looking back, it was worth every dollar…
Se la vie!

E90: me neither PF. I have part of 11/01 on my server, but that’s all I’ve heard, yet!

EDIT: TN with the big score, and it ain’t even hockey season yet ; )
And itsssssss fry yea! Too soon for one of those Oktoberfest DV?

OBEAH: love it, gonna moa some veggies, just as soon as I get back from the heart attack machine! When the going gets weird…

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9/12: good, but I felt like it was a bit off the first two shows?

Fun set list, and most certainly some really high moments (like the whole D/S/cabin boy/dew), but perhaps like some of fall 89, going along good then occasionally some muffed execution. So good but maybe not RJ? I’ll definitely have to check these out again! But, now onto 9/14/90, the big apple, don’t mind the maggots, sha Doo bie…

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Deer Creek

Sunshine box came today. Gonna try to get a couple of shows ripped tonight for my cosmic adventure tomorrow.

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Listened to it in the car this week.

Note that it’s in 30Trips.

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Check your CD’s for glue.

The glue can be removed with rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip.
Once cleaned don’t put the CD’s back in the cardboard holders.

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Anniversary listen.

It’s CD3 of the expanded Two From The Vault.

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The Octoberfest will be flowing tonight!
You would think they would have to let us know soon about this year's MUATM.

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TNJ - congrats on obtaining that great box set. Enjoy! Not sure you listened in on the cd quality issues BITD - some of those boxes, mine included, had a whole lot of problems, especially glue on the playing surface. Like ConeKid said, rubbing alcohol (70%) - also antiseptic isopropyl alcohol (91%) - will remove that stuff. Hopefully your box is one of the clean ones.

As luck and synchronicity would have it, in just last few days I was finally able to successfully rip every disc to my HD - initially 6 or so had skips (always in key jams). Had never had that issue ripping any cd before with that external drive and feel it had to do with the cds on some basic level. An unrelated software issue that I finally was able to resolve had me revisit ripping those discs with a different external drive and to my great delight and surprise they all seemed to rip clean and I've been dancing back and forth between the 5 shows listening to sections here and there, some that had problems to verify they're good now and some just cause I want to hear them. HCS was a dream box for me - I think I called for it at least a year before it was announced (not that I ever expected it to happen) - so to get a box with a lot of quality issues was "sort of" a real big problem. Along with glue and scratches, none of the discs were properly/fully inserted in their slot and so they all were in a flexed position and I wondered if the ripping issue was related to that. Quite frustrated, I transferred them all to jewel cases and basically they went untouched for almost a year until these last few days. And now all is better.

Currently playing 5/20/73 Santa Barbara, the Here Comes Sunshine from Disc 2.

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Almost at the end

Fantastic show

Even though Grumpy Grumpkins here isn't thrilled that Throwing Stones bubbles up

The music prior to that is really good

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Beautiful run of shows

I imagine it must have cathartic to play so well after the useless tragedy of Brent dying

God Bless the Grateful Dead

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Hey BC, I also have these CDs in jewel cases as the slip cases are not the best.

Let's hope the new box has better cases. I always liked the cases in both Spring 90 box sets and the PNW box.

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Iowa State Fairgrounds

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Most of my discs weren't even fully inserted into the sleeves. Got the first 2 shows ripped, and Casey Jones back where it belongs on the first show.

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8/24/68 Two from the vault
8/24/19 TTB Layla (later on)

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14 was sweet, so onto 15

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a best of Joy Division

Absolutely tremendous band

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Me and Mrs. Grumpkins are going to a Santana and Counting Crows show

Saw Santana open for GD in 88 and 91

Tonight makes a hat trick

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McFarlin Auditorium, SMU

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A real epic. With these vinyl box sets I like to just play 2 sides at a time, so it takes a day or so to listen to the whole show. The L.P. version features a run through Seastones, and the next track they play is El Paso. I can't think of any other band that would play two pieces of music so different from each other one after the other in concert.

It would have been interesting if they had incorporated Seastones type music within some of their jams. It always seems to sit outside the shows in which it was played. A first set. Then an electronic blizzard. Then normal service is resumed when the second set starts. It would have been very interesting if they had included some of these sounds in Dark Star, for example.
The closest they got to it may have been Unbroken Chain on Mars Hotel.

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6/8/77 :)

Man I should go for 8/23/68 myself...

It looks like TN is just ripping right through a who's who of official releases. It would be too dangerous to stop now....

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Just kicking off Dave's 24, 8/25/72

Last night of a legendary four-night stand at the BCT, and it's the show before Veneta... the setlist doesn't jump off the page at you, but 8/21 and 8/24 more than sufficed to scratch that itch, and besides you know this one's going to be lovely from the very opening notes. Entire band just playing well and having fun.

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Ready for 8-24-72 to be released Dave.
Or make it a BCT mini Box.

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I love this release (DaP 24). Been awhile and it sounds great. The Other One is fire. Jerry goofing with Professor Bob before El Paso after Bob warbles (a faint) Frozen Logger and tries to start a history lesson - "This ain't Kentucky man, it's Berkeley!" Followed shortly by "He had roses for lunch" which may be my favorite line of banter ever. Release the rest of the run (or even include this show with plangent!) and throw in 8/14 and 15 from the year before for a sweet BCT box.

9/16/90 - I (think) I got this on tape muy pronto BITD or maybe heard it on the GDH. Definitely remember listening with big ears to the Set II, with the space jams out of He's Gone and sandwiching SOTM just huge. Maybe the first post-Brent stuff I heard and it was way deep. I'm pretty sure I bought this as DiP 9 but when I looked for it in the collection last year (cause I wanted to revisit it) it was MIA.

Nassau

My son installed a new hard drive and a new dvd/cd writer in this pc yesterday while I was at work. This baby flies now!

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...from Good Time People...The Grateful Dead"
1972-08-24 Berkeley Community Theatre
luv these '72 Bird Song's, this one's the 20th live version

Peace for All!
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DiP 25 New Haven.
Raucous Jack Straw to start with Jerry doing that '78 "arrgh" growling thing in there. Within a very short time before the second song Bobby is already taunting him with a "We are all waiting patiently for Jerry to get his act together and decide what he's going to do." To which Jerry can be easily heard off mike saying "Cut all your crap asshole." Then they do They Love Each Other. Do they?
Cheers
The sound quality on this is superb!

It might mean he had doses for lunch ! I always seem to notice Bob Weirs playing more in 1972 shows than from any other year. Whether he was higher in the mix then I know not. Exceptional guitar playing - that I do know. Nobody else played like that.
I must say, I am very impressed with the way people zip through shows on here.

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Listening to Archives Vol 3 to prepare for Vol 4 next month. Before that I played my favourite’Pink Floyd’ album, The Madcap Laughs by Syd Barrett.