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  • daverock
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    Jerry and Renee

    Strat-wolf-bean - I wonder if the picture you saw is from 1975 at Golden Gate Park or Kezar Stadium ?

  • strat-wolf-bean
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    OK, so guess we got crossed up

    on exactly which picture (of the aforementioned Renee Berg) was in question. The one I saw, which clearly must be from '73 or '74, was of her, behind Jerry - who is playing Wolf and wearing a leather jacket (outdoors show, clearly not the Family Dog).

    Apples to Oranges, apparently ... But all good.
    Cheers!

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    Yes, Jerry's playing a strat on my dvd on 2/4/70. Just going off photos, he seemed to alternate between this one and a red Gibson SG during 1970, and then those odd shaped guitars seemed to make an appearance in 1971. I actually prefer the sound of the Gibson on shows from 1970.

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    Last night concert with Harry Manx... long heard his recordings, first time live. Solo on several instruments, including a guitar with a sympathetic twelve string section, a sitar effect foot pedal, foot actuated percussion (left foot snare, right foot kick drum). He has a number of recordings which can be found on the u, glad to see him to Voodoo Child, Slight Return. Mostly slide blues but lots of stuff, kept trying to tag his voice like a Tom Waits drizzled Springsteen, he finished with Van Morrisons Crazy love and had Van down. This past week four concerts in seven days, a new record. Frisell program seen down in Florence, MA was performed in Brooklyn twice over this weekend and can be streamed now,
    search on Roulette. And I had to return to some of the most best slide (besides Derek) , Sonny Landreth, found playing with John Hiatt on Riding with the King at the AVO Session, Basel, also on the tube. Have a great Superb Owl, everyone.

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    ? In the video clip I quickly checked from 2/4/70, he’s playing a strat?
    Perhaps wherever/whatever your perusing is either the Peanut or the Pretzel?Their aptly named shapes make them instantly recognizable. The Pretzel was early Rick Turner (RIP) pre Alembic that Jerry never played onstage and eventually gave it to Sam Cutler (RIP) as a gift. It was stolen from Sam, but mysteriously showed up at Ricks shop 45 years later.
    The Pretzel was another early Alembic hybrid that JG did play briefly, especially I believe at Capitol Theatre 71 shows?
    But unless the videos I watched are labeled wrong, he’s playing a strat on 2/4/70: Hard to Handle and China/Rider…

  • proudfoot
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    Make today

    2/9/73 Day

    This must not be in the vault because it would have been released by now

    Cest la vie

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    2/21/79 - The Police at Hatfield Polytechnic

    Fun gig, I'm so glad the BBC filmed it.

    Twelve years later on the 21st of February, I recall catching a fine Grateful Dead show in Oakland. I often think this would be a quality, representative performance for Dave to release. Good song selection, well played - notable for a lovely Eyes coming out of Space, the last time that ever happened - and no Hornsby, just Vince. Don't get me wrong I enjoy Hornsby's contributions a lot - in a perfect world he'd have been the guy (sorry Vinnie) - but I think this is a great showcase for what Vince could do after just six months in the band.

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    Spring arrives in 39 days

    :)))

  • Colin Gould
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    Live in Chicago 1992 by Neil Young
    Well recorded unofficial album. The official Dreamin’ Man Live 1992 is brilliantly recorded but doesn’t have the full concert. I recommend them both.

    RIP Mike Ratledge of Soft Machine who I’ve just noticed died a few days ago.

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    ... I looked up the Lindley Meadows pic/s and Jerry is playing the first of the two T. Beans he used. So, it is definitely from earlier.

    Interesting then - what is in that video you mention/picture that came up would possibly be a very early Irwin/Alembic (prototype) that predates Wolf's commissioning in 1972 and actual 'launch' of it at shows in late summer of 1973.

    Hmmm ....

    Postscript - Here's what would make most sense to me: On 2/4/70 they were just back from New Orleans & "the bust" therein, but some of their equipment is not ... So Ol' Jer borrowed/was loaned that prototype Alembic in order to have the show come off - complete with groovy chick dancers. A couple of Archive reviews indicate it 'sounds different' and TBH, I haven't heard it (yet), as I don't have the Download Series releases.

    Apparently (well, let's say 'hunch') he had such a good time playing it that day, that is what led to the refinement/development of the 1973-4 version ... Cool

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On estimated, so far so good…

Yeah BC that stretch you mention on the 16 is definitely top shelf and show highlights!
Roses for lunch? Like as in vodka gimlets…

1stshow: yeah that one’s extra funny considering the whole damn world always had/has to wait on ADD Bobby to tinker on every song lol

Daverock: some of us don’t have anything else to do, for good or for ill…

Philadelphia Civic Center [2nd Set]

You are correct JoeyMC. I'm currently reformatting my entire collection by shows instead of individual releases. You gotta listen to them while you're doing that. Lol

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Nazareth Hair of the Dog on that toob

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The way I store my shows, in folders with the date.
Whether it’s DP, DaP, RT, FTV, VFTV, DS, or a Box is irrelevant.

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Chick Evans Field House

That's the way I'm doing mine Cone Kid. With an image of the venue as a thumbnail for each show.

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Met old friends and made some new ones, superb grease bucket show last night in Deerfield at a relatively new outdoor venue, where they also happen to make a lot of beer, very well organized, lots of room, excellent sound. First set was the entire Cal Expo show from 11/21/69, second set more of the same with longer jams, Thats It For the Other One, St. Stephen, a fantastic Alligator, encore JA's Volunteers. This their final show of summer tour before a couple weeks off. Packed with primal and Workingmans Pig treats, heaven.

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...1970-05-02 harpur college ELECTRIC set...THE OTHER ONE...such a FANTASTIC wake-up call!
As Bart Simpson says, "Good Morning World"
and I really did need a kick-start this AM!!!

...his mind remained unbended...

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1STSHOW - agreed, a '78 Bear recording treat
DAVEROCK - - zipping along with headphones allows me to alleviate the mundaneness of the everyday chores whether indoors or outdoors, keep on rockin'

Uncle Tripel - sounds like a good plan ! I tend to wait until the day is done before I put The Dead on - although I did listen to the first cd of Veneta 8/27/72 while I was frigging about this morning. But I'll play the best bits later on, when I'm in a state of semi collapse on the sofa.

Needless to say 5/2/70 is incredible - however, whatever or whenever you listen to it.

Interesting. I used to love to save a good listen for nighttime, or at least later in the day when it was time to pa teh…if I did that now I’d fall asleep before the first set was over! Something about light versus dark?
BITD the idea of loud in the AM was unthinkable, but now as soon as I get home from my AM walk, the jute box gets fired up.
I’m not big on cans etc, so I just turn it up enough that I can hear it everywhere lol. Plus, I have four zones: Main stereo, Living/Kitchen, garage, and Theatre.
Keep meaning to get a speaker in 2 baths, but I’m getting old and lazy lol.
So if TOO is home, I can usually find a zone where it won’t bother her too much, or, I can fire em all up!
I’m with uncle T, nothing makes the routine manageable like strong coffee, a big bong rip, and a good Dead show!
BUT!
New releases always get a proper virginal sit down on the “stereo”, early, with coffee and before the weed takes over lol
BUT!!!
Doesn’t matter what you wear, just as long as you are there ; )
Onward!

Edit: when I was working I’d most often be in some huge empty mansion with many zones all over, so I’d just fire up a show and hear it everywhere!
Bit awkward when on occasion some super weird end of the world space, Dark Star, TOO etc be blastin and a property manager would show up unexpectedly lol.

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Harpur College

Guess I'll join y'all with this show. I had it on my soon to play list anyway.

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Ok twist my arm, but not hard lol
Hey, these floors aren’t gonna clean themselves ; )

Edit: just finished the fine MSG 90 run, Berry interesting.
Lots of cool jams, and JG is obviously digging Bruce etc, so the energy is big!
Perhaps a bit much from so many folks trying to go hard?
Only criticisms: personally sometimes don’t like so many folks as it gets a bit sonically crowded, think they dialed that in eventually, and hey, under the circumstances it’s understandable here.
Didn’t always like the mix, especially Vince OCCASIONALLY too loud, but you’d think that’s not his fault…I.e., Dicks from the 16…?

TN John, noticed you were at these fine shows, would love to hear your thoughts and/or any good stories! Do you have a fave?

And PF, thoughts/Fav?

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I simply love the entire run

Things that stay in my memory from my recent listenings are

9 14 The Weight to open 2nd set

9 16 Hes Gone > end of show
9 18 second set
9 19
9 20 Drums > end of show

Its hard to believe they could play so well after losing Brent 46 days earlier, as I went on about a while back

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Some decent stuff
It was a rainy day

Rain
Saint of Circumstance
ATTICS OF MY LIFE

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Hartford Civic Center

Oroborous,
I'll try to remember to sit down and type some notes on that '90 MSG run next week when I'm on vacation.

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...thanks for the nudge...1978-05-10 new haven diP #25 lookin' for
that BIG smile today,
got the car for the day, after I drop my better half off at work...
play dead,
play dead LOUD!

Peace for All!
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Springfield, MA
DiP 25 second show.
Can't just leave it hanging.
And it has a Werewolves.
Cheers
A little more laid back 1st set than 5-10.

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That's a great film of a Dead show - for me the best one out there. "China Cat-Rider" is the highlight of the film - although I have read that some find it a bit sexist.... with the camera lingering on naked women instead of the band. It doesn't come across that way to me - but then I ain't a woman.
"Playing", "Bird Song" and "Dark Star" are also among the best versions ever, I would say. I still don't like the way Dark Star goes into El Paso, though.

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Especially since you can hear Jerry flirting with the opening chords for Morning Dew just before Bobby takes the reigns and steers the ship towards the West Texas town of El Paso.

But hey.. if every Dark Star melted into a gorgeous Morning Dew, they wouldn't be so special. I'll take what we have and am a bit thankful it wasn't me making the calls. They clearly did a better job than I ever could.

Happy Labor Day to those in the US.. for those abroad there's no harm in giving thanks and taking a breather for all those who move the world and make it shake. From another angle this marks the end of summer, the days are getting shorter and fall is coming. Darkness falls and seasons change....

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I notice they made the same transition a few days earlier, on the 21st at Berkeley. Maybe it worked really well then, and Bob Weir had decided in advance that they would do the same thing on 27th. It looks a bit pre-meditated. For me it's the only false note of the whole show - but for others it might be a stroke of genius.

I might check out that Berkeley show later on. Worse things to do on a Friday night.

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8/21/72: Very clearly Jerry starts Morning Dew, but others indicate other ideas
8/27/72: Jerry tries again for Morning Dew, but El Paso it is

As I think deep thoughts about this, if they HAD done MD on 8/27, we might not have gotten the glorious Sing Me Back Home

Whatevs, I suppose. It was one afternoon (and evening) _long ago_, after all

I have the house to myself this weekend, so if you hear GD playing from afar, that's me.

happy happy joy joy

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Yes indeedy, I was surprised to hear Jerry leading the band towards Morning Dew towards the end of Dark Star only to be cut across by the rest of the band - led by Phil, I think - before Bob enters with El Paso. This sounded a bit more natural - but I was listening to just the music on this occasion. With 8/27/72 I was watching them play it in "Sunshine Daydream." When I am watching a film of a band play I am much less inclined to get carried away in spacier sections, as I find myself looking at what they are doing instead of just listening. "Oh..he's playing at the 12th fret" - "Oh she looks nice"....that kind of thing. When I am just listening I get catapulted into space.

This Dark Star is one wild and fascinating ride. It seemed wilder to me than 8/27 - going way out there. And that jazz type jam led by Keith towards the end is good.
I notice on the 8/24 Dark Star does go into Morning Dew. These shows would make a good release -although I am just listening to second set jams. Not a popular thought, but maybe they could release a comp of the jams - including both Dark Stars - without releasing the whole shows.

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Truly worth a listen

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9 26 91

Potent stuff

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4/17/84 eaton.miller aud, in between shows in the Winterland June 1977 box set.

I really like that 5/20/73. That might be my favorite from that box. It sounds like SoCal would...I think

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Pink Floyd The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

Very nice

3 hours later...
mo' Pink Floyd BBC 1971

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9 25 91

From when that was first released until today, I was unreceptive to it and negatively snooty about it.

I am listening to my Dickus Pickus of it and am absolutely floored in joyful awe. Great stuff.

Edit: now listening to disc 3
Glorious
Then...
Throwing Stones bubbles up....ugh.

Oh Bobby, why?!?

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‘No Name’ - Jack White. Remarkably good on first listen. Hopefully it will survive the test of time.

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Down loading Papadosio from archive while listening to Randy Rainbow!

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Maybe they were distracted by naked pole guy.

6-26-73 in the car today.
Other One->Bobby McGee->Other One.
Should have put the BMG in a different time slot.
Why ruin a perfectly good O1.

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One that does work for me is when they slotted Me and My Uncle in the middle of The Other One in 1971. 8/6/71 is a great example - there tucked away on cd4 on Dicks Picks 35.

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So it’s 1980 and I’m at Gainesville for my 362nd show, but last minute parking lot buy leaves me in the nose bleed seats. I wander down for a beer and meets a guy at the concession stand.

Guy says he has an extra ticket for the 3rd row and to follow him down.

Down we go and sure enough, 3rd row center!!!

I’m blown away (tripping balls at this point), but ask, “Don’t you need this seat?”

Guy says, “No,,, that’s my wife’s seat and she died.”

Great just what I don’t need to hear in my state, but ask “no friend or relative you could have asked?”

He says, “no they’re all at the funeral”

No.

My wife told me that joke the other day. Best joke she ever told me. She read it with a real feel for humor.

Generally, her funniest joke has been marrying me! (she's paying for that joke now!)

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Never trust a Dennis, uh, I mean, a prankster

Mrs. Grumpkins would not be amused by the scenario

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I’m reminded of the, probably apocryphal, tale of a well known British birder who left his wedding reception when he heard news of a rare bird that had turned up. Needless to say the marriage didn’t last.

Currently listening to ‘Dresden’ by The Jan Garbarek Group. Takes me back to when we saw him with Eberhard Weber and Nana Vasconcelos at The Bluecoat Chambers in Liverpool.

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Amazing

Ah may zing

Amazing

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9 7 90

Remarkably strong

PITB is on fire

The greatest band of all time

"The greatest band, Jerry! The greatest!"

Edit: the encore...

:_(((

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Anyone here attend 10/27/91?

Two days after Bill Graham's death....wow.