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    Trippy lyrics ?

    Dennis - seen through a certain lens nearly everything from the mid - late 60's could be seen as being about tripping. The BBC tied themselves in knots trying to work out which ones were promoting drug use, so they could ban them and save the youth of the day. Songs like "I Can Hear The Grass Grow" - was that because he had taken drugs? And "A Whiter Shade of Pale" - was that about drugs too? It must have seemed like the whole world had gone mad if you were over 30 at that time. And to be sure, it nearly had.

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    Check msgs.
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    Okay Dennis - it's now on my short list! Thank you! Been ages since I've heard it so essentially it will be fresh listen. I remember hearing/reading that a whole lot of folks preferred 4/16 to 4/17.

    !stShow - Three Rivers is very compact - hiking trail can't be more than a mile and a half total along a low, easy walking ridge line. 21,000 petroglyphs is what they say in that short distance. I've heard of one very cool glyph that is outside of it - would dm that if you were headed down there. Probably would want to tie it in with a visit to world famous Hueco Tanks (haven't had to visit that site yet.) Alas I'm only down in southern NM for work and not so much play.

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    All the talk about 4/17/83 and Steve Stills doing Love the One You're With.

    How bout a little love for the night before 4/16. Steve also there and we got a Black Queen. (I had no idea what the song was that night!) But you also get a Bob Star.

    But the best part is you get the GREATEST Looks Like Rain. At least for me this is it. The last 2 minutes of it are incredible. Bob is really belting out "looks like rain, feel like rain, can't take no more fucking rain", but Jerry's is just ripping it up with a series of staccato notes that make you feel the rain. Brings tears to my eyes everytime!

    Extra - Daverock and Mr Tambourine Man. I wouldn't have gone with celebration of trippy, just a good poetic description of falling asleep. (Maybe my favorite Bob song. So many great lines) I always thought Eagle-Eye Cherry had a great cover of this concept with Comatose (In the Arms of Slumber). (now there's a great album, Desireless. Always loved the double meaning of "Shooting Up in Vain".

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    Thanks BC

    Nothing to be sorry for. I usually listen to the GD Hour every week and I love the tidbits he throws in as filler. Keeps me up to date, lol. When I started listening in the early '90s in PHX he always had fresh shows. Some only weeks old which was pretty cool. Not sure why I was skipping that 4-17-83 series but glad I went back to it. It was an "on" night. It's all about the energy and it is there on this one.
    Thanks for the recommendation on the glyphs. Already working on this year's road trip schedule and will look that one up for sure. Love the inside info from pros in the field.
    Cheers
    I'll be finishing up Monday's Taper's today then see what DV's Pick-O-Day from EU72 ends up being.

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    Sorry about that 1st Show

    Yeah the vocals on Love The One Your With are not just exactly perfect lol. Listening to it on my lo-fi system on drive back it seemed a bit more crazed than I remembered, had to turn it down a couple of notches (I tend to listen loud) and the backing vocals by Bobby? and Brent? are also a tad out there and just serve to reinforce that. Reminded me a little of Bobby shredding his voice in the old old days on rave up finale of some Pig Lovelights and Not Fade Aways. Back in the day I figured the 4/17 vocal thing was a surfeit of Bolivian marching powder and the wave of insane energy of a New York/ Meadowlands crowd/vibe but yeah Stills probably couldn't hear himself also. It didn't spoil the show in any way for me back then when I didn't have many tapes and it doesn't now. It just was what it was - a vocal rough spot in an otherwise stellar '83 show IMO and yeah an historic one-off performance of a classic song from the old days. Also want to add that along with that killer H > S > F, I love the Playing and the extended jam into drums. And listening to all this last little bit it struck me that Brent is throwing in some unusual keyboard sounds - like the "marimba" in the Help/Slipknot transition. I'm not a student/scholar of '83 (that would be Oro, among others) but really dig Brent's keyboards on this Set II. And yeah Phil is kicking it throughout and Jerry too his guitar is fire on that Slipknot. And right now listening pre-dawn with fresh coffee to H>S>F on the Senns to the Candace Brightman source on the archive and it is awesome! And going back to the GDH - one thing I enjoy is that along with the live shows, Gans is always serving up some relatively deep cuts from the greater GD catalog. Plus as a fan of Dead and Co he serves up the occasional killer D & C live SBD source, like in episode #1884 there's the Althea from 7/8/23 The Gorge which was coming out of a post -drums Dark Star! A little while ago he played the Cumberland from Oracle 7/16/23 and it was an absolutely ripping version, simply fantastic! His comment at the time was how D&C were really jamming out Cumberland in Set II and that was exactly what I got experience at Boulder 7/1/23. BTW - on a personal note we've been working down by Three Rivers Petroglyph National Monument north of Tularosa and had a chance to do a quick walk of the first section of the trail on a break. So much cool stuff packed tight and much of it different from the rock art up here. Need to visit there with some real free time - there's a nice campground I've heard at the base of Mt. Blanca.

    ConeKid - That vault tour sounds cool. I think the winner should be able to liberate some uncirculated show of personal significance as part of the deal.

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    Had avoided this one until BC's post and going back for the H>S>F but the Stills sitting in on Love The One You're With was a train wreck, lol. Stills clearly cannot hear himself and the boys try their best but it's a bit rough. (as often happens on first attempts of covers) Yet a cool historic moment nonetheless. And not the first guest appearance to go astray so I enjoyed it "for what it's worth". Now there's a tune I wish they'd cover.
    Cheers
    Edit: Yep, that H>S>F is a good one. Tight, and I like Phil's work on this one.

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    onward and upward...

    ...best weekend in a long time
    without my digital leash
    tugging at me...
    look at me, read me, and down the rabbit hole,
    no no no didn't happen!

    what did happen
    I only gained 4 pounds,
    and
    FLY EAGLES FLY
    to N'awlins

    today's listening party

    oct 9th 1989 with the warlocks

    hampton roads coliseum (yup, that was it's name on the map when we first drove down in '83)

    PEACE for ALL!
    uncle_tripel

    PS - luv those Aug '91 shoreline shows

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    shout out to the GDH

    The last 3 episodes uploaded on dead dot net are from 4/17/83 Meadowlands, the second night that has Stephen Stills guest appearance. Lucked into a second set SBD by summer '85 and I loved it. The H > S > F opening the set is pure fire, easily one of my favorites. Been listening to these episodes as part of my long haul drive music. Latest episode with Love The One Your With uploaded today - will be listening to it when I had back home this afternoon.

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On estimated, so far so good…

Yeah BC that stretch you mention on the 16 is definitely top shelf and show highlights!
Roses for lunch? Like as in vodka gimlets…

1stshow: yeah that one’s extra funny considering the whole damn world always had/has to wait on ADD Bobby to tinker on every song lol

Daverock: some of us don’t have anything else to do, for good or for ill…

Philadelphia Civic Center [2nd Set]

You are correct JoeyMC. I'm currently reformatting my entire collection by shows instead of individual releases. You gotta listen to them while you're doing that. Lol

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Nazareth Hair of the Dog on that toob

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The way I store my shows, in folders with the date.
Whether it’s DP, DaP, RT, FTV, VFTV, DS, or a Box is irrelevant.

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Chick Evans Field House

That's the way I'm doing mine Cone Kid. With an image of the venue as a thumbnail for each show.

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Met old friends and made some new ones, superb grease bucket show last night in Deerfield at a relatively new outdoor venue, where they also happen to make a lot of beer, very well organized, lots of room, excellent sound. First set was the entire Cal Expo show from 11/21/69, second set more of the same with longer jams, Thats It For the Other One, St. Stephen, a fantastic Alligator, encore JA's Volunteers. This their final show of summer tour before a couple weeks off. Packed with primal and Workingmans Pig treats, heaven.

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...1970-05-02 harpur college ELECTRIC set...THE OTHER ONE...such a FANTASTIC wake-up call!
As Bart Simpson says, "Good Morning World"
and I really did need a kick-start this AM!!!

...his mind remained unbended...

Peace for All!
uncle_tripel

1STSHOW - agreed, a '78 Bear recording treat
DAVEROCK - - zipping along with headphones allows me to alleviate the mundaneness of the everyday chores whether indoors or outdoors, keep on rockin'

Uncle Tripel - sounds like a good plan ! I tend to wait until the day is done before I put The Dead on - although I did listen to the first cd of Veneta 8/27/72 while I was frigging about this morning. But I'll play the best bits later on, when I'm in a state of semi collapse on the sofa.

Needless to say 5/2/70 is incredible - however, whatever or whenever you listen to it.

Interesting. I used to love to save a good listen for nighttime, or at least later in the day when it was time to pa teh…if I did that now I’d fall asleep before the first set was over! Something about light versus dark?
BITD the idea of loud in the AM was unthinkable, but now as soon as I get home from my AM walk, the jute box gets fired up.
I’m not big on cans etc, so I just turn it up enough that I can hear it everywhere lol. Plus, I have four zones: Main stereo, Living/Kitchen, garage, and Theatre.
Keep meaning to get a speaker in 2 baths, but I’m getting old and lazy lol.
So if TOO is home, I can usually find a zone where it won’t bother her too much, or, I can fire em all up!
I’m with uncle T, nothing makes the routine manageable like strong coffee, a big bong rip, and a good Dead show!
BUT!
New releases always get a proper virginal sit down on the “stereo”, early, with coffee and before the weed takes over lol
BUT!!!
Doesn’t matter what you wear, just as long as you are there ; )
Onward!

Edit: when I was working I’d most often be in some huge empty mansion with many zones all over, so I’d just fire up a show and hear it everywhere!
Bit awkward when on occasion some super weird end of the world space, Dark Star, TOO etc be blastin and a property manager would show up unexpectedly lol.

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Harpur College

Guess I'll join y'all with this show. I had it on my soon to play list anyway.

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Ok twist my arm, but not hard lol
Hey, these floors aren’t gonna clean themselves ; )

Edit: just finished the fine MSG 90 run, Berry interesting.
Lots of cool jams, and JG is obviously digging Bruce etc, so the energy is big!
Perhaps a bit much from so many folks trying to go hard?
Only criticisms: personally sometimes don’t like so many folks as it gets a bit sonically crowded, think they dialed that in eventually, and hey, under the circumstances it’s understandable here.
Didn’t always like the mix, especially Vince OCCASIONALLY too loud, but you’d think that’s not his fault…I.e., Dicks from the 16…?

TN John, noticed you were at these fine shows, would love to hear your thoughts and/or any good stories! Do you have a fave?

And PF, thoughts/Fav?

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I simply love the entire run

Things that stay in my memory from my recent listenings are

9 14 The Weight to open 2nd set

9 16 Hes Gone > end of show
9 18 second set
9 19
9 20 Drums > end of show

Its hard to believe they could play so well after losing Brent 46 days earlier, as I went on about a while back

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Some decent stuff
It was a rainy day

Rain
Saint of Circumstance
ATTICS OF MY LIFE

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Hartford Civic Center

Oroborous,
I'll try to remember to sit down and type some notes on that '90 MSG run next week when I'm on vacation.

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...thanks for the nudge...1978-05-10 new haven diP #25 lookin' for
that BIG smile today,
got the car for the day, after I drop my better half off at work...
play dead,
play dead LOUD!

Peace for All!
uncle_tripel

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Springfield, MA
DiP 25 second show.
Can't just leave it hanging.
And it has a Werewolves.
Cheers
A little more laid back 1st set than 5-10.

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That's a great film of a Dead show - for me the best one out there. "China Cat-Rider" is the highlight of the film - although I have read that some find it a bit sexist.... with the camera lingering on naked women instead of the band. It doesn't come across that way to me - but then I ain't a woman.
"Playing", "Bird Song" and "Dark Star" are also among the best versions ever, I would say. I still don't like the way Dark Star goes into El Paso, though.

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Especially since you can hear Jerry flirting with the opening chords for Morning Dew just before Bobby takes the reigns and steers the ship towards the West Texas town of El Paso.

But hey.. if every Dark Star melted into a gorgeous Morning Dew, they wouldn't be so special. I'll take what we have and am a bit thankful it wasn't me making the calls. They clearly did a better job than I ever could.

Happy Labor Day to those in the US.. for those abroad there's no harm in giving thanks and taking a breather for all those who move the world and make it shake. From another angle this marks the end of summer, the days are getting shorter and fall is coming. Darkness falls and seasons change....

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I notice they made the same transition a few days earlier, on the 21st at Berkeley. Maybe it worked really well then, and Bob Weir had decided in advance that they would do the same thing on 27th. It looks a bit pre-meditated. For me it's the only false note of the whole show - but for others it might be a stroke of genius.

I might check out that Berkeley show later on. Worse things to do on a Friday night.

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8/21/72: Very clearly Jerry starts Morning Dew, but others indicate other ideas
8/27/72: Jerry tries again for Morning Dew, but El Paso it is

As I think deep thoughts about this, if they HAD done MD on 8/27, we might not have gotten the glorious Sing Me Back Home

Whatevs, I suppose. It was one afternoon (and evening) _long ago_, after all

I have the house to myself this weekend, so if you hear GD playing from afar, that's me.

happy happy joy joy

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Yes indeedy, I was surprised to hear Jerry leading the band towards Morning Dew towards the end of Dark Star only to be cut across by the rest of the band - led by Phil, I think - before Bob enters with El Paso. This sounded a bit more natural - but I was listening to just the music on this occasion. With 8/27/72 I was watching them play it in "Sunshine Daydream." When I am watching a film of a band play I am much less inclined to get carried away in spacier sections, as I find myself looking at what they are doing instead of just listening. "Oh..he's playing at the 12th fret" - "Oh she looks nice"....that kind of thing. When I am just listening I get catapulted into space.

This Dark Star is one wild and fascinating ride. It seemed wilder to me than 8/27 - going way out there. And that jazz type jam led by Keith towards the end is good.
I notice on the 8/24 Dark Star does go into Morning Dew. These shows would make a good release -although I am just listening to second set jams. Not a popular thought, but maybe they could release a comp of the jams - including both Dark Stars - without releasing the whole shows.

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Truly worth a listen

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9 26 91

Potent stuff

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4/17/84 eaton.miller aud, in between shows in the Winterland June 1977 box set.

I really like that 5/20/73. That might be my favorite from that box. It sounds like SoCal would...I think

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Pink Floyd The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

Very nice

3 hours later...
mo' Pink Floyd BBC 1971

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9 25 91

From when that was first released until today, I was unreceptive to it and negatively snooty about it.

I am listening to my Dickus Pickus of it and am absolutely floored in joyful awe. Great stuff.

Edit: now listening to disc 3
Glorious
Then...
Throwing Stones bubbles up....ugh.

Oh Bobby, why?!?

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‘No Name’ - Jack White. Remarkably good on first listen. Hopefully it will survive the test of time.

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Down loading Papadosio from archive while listening to Randy Rainbow!

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Maybe they were distracted by naked pole guy.

6-26-73 in the car today.
Other One->Bobby McGee->Other One.
Should have put the BMG in a different time slot.
Why ruin a perfectly good O1.

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One that does work for me is when they slotted Me and My Uncle in the middle of The Other One in 1971. 8/6/71 is a great example - there tucked away on cd4 on Dicks Picks 35.

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So it’s 1980 and I’m at Gainesville for my 362nd show, but last minute parking lot buy leaves me in the nose bleed seats. I wander down for a beer and meets a guy at the concession stand.

Guy says he has an extra ticket for the 3rd row and to follow him down.

Down we go and sure enough, 3rd row center!!!

I’m blown away (tripping balls at this point), but ask, “Don’t you need this seat?”

Guy says, “No,,, that’s my wife’s seat and she died.”

Great just what I don’t need to hear in my state, but ask “no friend or relative you could have asked?”

He says, “no they’re all at the funeral”

No.

My wife told me that joke the other day. Best joke she ever told me. She read it with a real feel for humor.

Generally, her funniest joke has been marrying me! (she's paying for that joke now!)

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Never trust a Dennis, uh, I mean, a prankster

Mrs. Grumpkins would not be amused by the scenario

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I’m reminded of the, probably apocryphal, tale of a well known British birder who left his wedding reception when he heard news of a rare bird that had turned up. Needless to say the marriage didn’t last.

Currently listening to ‘Dresden’ by The Jan Garbarek Group. Takes me back to when we saw him with Eberhard Weber and Nana Vasconcelos at The Bluecoat Chambers in Liverpool.

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Amazing

Ah may zing

Amazing

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9 7 90

Remarkably strong

PITB is on fire

The greatest band of all time

"The greatest band, Jerry! The greatest!"

Edit: the encore...

:_(((

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Anyone here attend 10/27/91?

Two days after Bill Graham's death....wow.