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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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January 8, 2021 - 9:57am

#4851

The Good Ole G…

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@DeadVikes

Yeah, late July & early August '82 is hot.
I dug 8/6 too. We gotta circle back and get 8/3/82 in here soon.
8/7, 8/8 & 8/10 are all epic Dead I cut my teeth on BITD.

In regards to that Road Trips release, the real hot stuff is on the Bonus IMO 4/5 is the better show, but I think there's issues with the tape in the Vault as SBD doesn't circulate minus what was released. But the Audience is worth checking out the whole show, cuz it's good!

Good stuff.
January 8, 2021 - 9:50am

#4852

DeadVikes

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8/1/82

This is a great show as well, GOGD. What is about this part of 1982 that seems to rock and the recordings are really good? The playing isn't perfect, but it still rocks. 1984, I will check it out later today.

I was never a big fan of the 1982 RT release from the Spectrum. Might have to check it out again and see if my opinion has changed at all.
January 8, 2021 - 9:48am

#4853

The Good Ole G…

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Carrier Dome

Dennis you're right about the Berkeley run, I can't remember the consistency of the performances, it's pretty rough and ragged I think, but hot.

Tapes are spotty. Not sure the whole Vault story, but what circulates has got issues:
10/27/84 partial SBD circulates
10/28/84 partial SBD circulates / but Lemieux played it all on Taper’s
10/30/84 partial SBD circulates
10/31/84 SBD
11/02/84 SBD
11/03/84 SBD

Got any cool stories about the Carrier Dome?

I really should start doing something, I woke up early and have been obsessively collecting Grateful Dead upgrades and posting comments. But... yeah might need to do something else.
January 8, 2021 - 9:40am

#4854

The Good Ole G…

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Coma was a trip

Yo Dennis :)
I always felt that the Coma was like rebirth.
Started a second life.
I'm sure it sucked going through it though!
But at the time of the Coma Jer was stubbornly trying to get his shit together.
Jerry describes it like a full on trip, alien plasma stuff.

Amazing how descriptive he was not only in his guitar playing and singing but at the art of conversation.
Every conversation I've heard of his is almost as fascinating as his playing.

Not many folks like that.
I once heard this theory, about how certain people have almost like gravitational pull and that they bring people into their orbit and magic sparks out from that rotational pull and the effect of the connection. I think it was using Diane Sawyer as the example. Wish I could remember where I heard it, mighta been on Oprah :)
Anyhow.. I feel like Jerry was like that.

I'm not getting a lot done this morning, but my mind is having some far out thoughts.
January 8, 2021 - 9:14am

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Dennis

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Fall 84

I too was at the Carrier Dome,,, Jack and Shakedown got plus 2 from our records!

Looking up my 10/20 show and Jim mentioning 11/3,,, I realized the 10/27-11/3 stand at Berkeley, would make a fine box set. The entire 84 fall tour was hot, but a stand like that would cover the whole catalog (kinda), but be a good snapshot of that period. I don't follow what or what not is in the vault, but miller had soundboards of 10/20, my copy sounds pretty damn good. So I'll assume the Berkeley run was recorded.

sidebar - Good Old Grateful,,,, I smiled quietly to myself when I read "But we know Jerry got busted in Golden Gate Park on January 18, 1985 so that was rock bottom (at least for the 80s). "

..... I would have thought coma was rock bottom,,,, but that's just me! :-)
January 8, 2021 - 8:32am

#4856

The Good Ole G…

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Take A Step Back..

I'm hip October '84 is good stuff.
Miller dropped an upgrade of this show in late November 2020 sourced from Dick Latvala & Rob Eaton so I've been meaning to check this out again.
So many upgrades!!

Personally love '84, and the playing in late '84 really starts to pick up.
I believe it was around this time the band confronted Jerry and expressed concern.
To my ear, shows from around this time have new purpose.
These October shows and say a show like 11/3/84. Off the hook.
Jerry was stubborn, I'm sure if confronted he would be like.. fuck you, I'll show you fuckers.

Anyhow, this is all just speculation I keep in my head (mostly, unless asked, or posting here on this forum:).
Always been curious about the timeline.
But we know Jerry got busted in Golden Gate Park on January 18, 1985 so that was rock bottom (at least for the 80s). And that's why, again IMO, that 1985 is so killer.

But that's another story for another time and I digress.
We're talking October 1984 here.

Meanwhile, in another galaxy a little more than a couple of years before this...
8/6/82 Good Call Deadvikes, I dug that!
I need to get 8/3/82 in for a revisit.
Between 7/31, 8/1 and 8/3... 8/3 is up there as a contender for best show.
7/31 is hard to beat.
Might have to do that too.

But another time.
For now 10/20/84 here we come.
As soon as I finish this show I was at 33 years ago on 6/20/88 which just got a nice little upgrade this morning :)

Life is good in GD world.
But..
You say you want a Revolution?
Well you know,
We'd all love to see your plan.

PS - I love how you guys call this Angry Jack Straw. Nice...
January 8, 2021 - 8:17am

#4857

JimInMD

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Angry Jack Straw

Yes, 10/20/84 is a high energy show, especially the Jack Straw. I might have brought this up on this page in the early days.. I forget. If we get on an 84 terror, I really like Augusta from 30 trips.

Another Angry Jack Straw is Providence '85. The first set is high energy and worth checking out.
https://archive.org/details/gd1985-04-04.149449.sbd.miller.clugston.fla…
January 8, 2021 - 7:39am

#4858

Vguy72

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Proudfoot brought up 10.20.84 on a different board....

....so I'm going to repost it here. Carrier Dome, Syracuse, NY.
He made today's pick without even realizing it.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1984/10/20
January 7, 2021 - 10:16pm

#4859

DeadVikes

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Oroborous

Oroborous, check your PM.
January 7, 2021 - 6:05pm

#4860

The Good Ole G…

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@CARLO13

Cool man.

Yeah, it looks dope, keep me posted.

Thanks Carlo!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

68 and Loud

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

4/30/88 at the Frost

Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

Lewiston, for your consideration

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

All is worthwhile if the soul is not small.....

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for.....

9/6/80

Hey DMCVT,

Love this show and will get it going again this weekend.

And yes, it would make a great releasen.

Pretty sweet you and Doc were there.

9/6/80 Lewiston

I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

Been Gone

But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

Follow-Up

While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

More 1980

Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

My Favorite Non-Multi-Track 1980 Release

Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.