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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    1970 Acoustic Stuff

    I wonder what the Alfred College stuff would sound like if they cleaned it up. That's a decent full show with an acoustic set. I always liked that one, but it's an East coast college with a terrific emphasis in art and ceramics of all kinds.. so to me it has good karma.

    https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-01.sbd.miller.95683.sbeok.flac16

    There's other spring 1970 stuff as many have mentioned somewhat recently.

    Agree with Billy.. right on.

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    Thanks for the great information about the vault, your information always is well thought out and reliable. I would love a list of shows that are in the vault, it looks like you would too. I posted a couple of weeks ago that I wish Dead.net would print out such a list so that we could see it. They could print out one list a month for one year (list of the month). I think that people would really look forward to that list each month, I know I would. If people want to remain surprised about what's in the vault , then they don't have to look at the list. Again, thanks for all the great information you put out, your postings are always so interesting and positive.

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    BTK: Yeah, so I think based on Dave's comments that some of the multi-track stuff still exists, some of it got wiped. And then there's also Betty's 2 Track mixes that exist, I think those are mostly acoustic sets, at least based on what circulates.
    I'm tempted to go through both runs and gather my notes on what SBDs are in circulation and which aren't, but I'm thinking that's a pretty good representation of what exists and what doesn't in the vault.

    DeadVikes: Yeah, here's a link to Dave talking about this on January 17th 2012 @ 33:48ish - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19834305

    It's a good watch and pretty informative. I stumbled on it looking into the 1970 tapes in the Vault, and it did answer my question on that as well.

    Unfortunately, he states that there are virtually no shows in the Vault from July 16 through December 1970, largely because of Owsley getting busted. I guess the Dead themselves were not running tape at all during this time. Might be old news for some, but I wanted to confirm it with my own ears.

    Clever Deadhead and Photographer Bob Minkin also gave us a clue to this on Page 221 of his book Live Dead with a picture of the 1970 reels in the Vault, in the picture there's a huge gap of reels between 7/16/70 - 12/27/70 :(

    Dang it.

    The above totally coincides with the tapes that circulate, mostly what exists in circulation from that time frame are either Fillmore East Crew SBDs (partials), FM Broadcasts, or Audience recordings.

    So, mystery solved? I'd still like a nice list of what's there and not, but yeah that might be my OCD.

    Since we're all getting older here, I think some time should be put towards figuring out what else exists from the Festival Express and to try and get that stuff and get it out there. I know there's more of that than what circulates.

    Unfortunately, I don't see any 1970 acoustic set stuff happening for American Beauty 50th, because it doesn't sound like it exists. Happy to be wrong.

    Alright, well there you have it, and that's the way it is Tuesday August 4, Two Thousand and Twenty, I'll be away on assignment and Dan Rather will be sitting in here for the next few years.

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    To bad they erased those tapes, I'm happy to hear that some survived. I'm. happy they released the 10/9/80 and 10/10/80 acoustic sets, I was at both those shows , so that might mean they still have the electric sets for those shows. Both those shows were killer shows,electric and acoustic , so hopefully the electric sets will we the light of day and be.released.

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    Sounds like a winner to me. Cal Expo.

    I am in the camp of hope for 1980. Time will tell.
    Thanks for the information guys, this is better than the alternative.

    GOGD, did you have a link for Dave's comments?

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    JimInMD
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    Those were general comments.. I have no facts to back them up. I just can't believe this there is nothing left on the shelves from those tours.

    Lemieux.. if you listening, check in that unlabeled banana box in the back of the room with the Blues for Allah painting. We think you missed some reels.

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    Pick of the day....

    I humbly submit this gem....
    https://archive.org/details/gd1989-08-04.sbd.miller.89884.sbeok.flac16/…
    Biased because i was there. Pre-Drumz is especially tasty. 'hint, hint'.

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    The Good Ole G…
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    Hi-Ya, chiming in on the 1980 stuff, in 2012 DL said the following:

    “Recorded every show from Warfield & Radio City Music Hall to Multitrack. Unfortunately a lot of that was erased in the early 80s. Nonetheless there’s material there.”

    A number of the Acoustic sets were part of the Betty Boards that were returned, I'm assuming those were two-track mixes though and not multi-track.

    Not sure if there's any info about the wiping of the original tapes. If anybody has info on that story let me know.

    In other news, looks like new DaP V35 might be arriving soon... fingers x'd.

    And lastly 5/29 & 5/30/71 look kinda cool...

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    Conekid, that would be cool. From the lists I have read, I am not sure they received anything more the acoustic sets from October 9 and 10.
    Jim, you mention I guess it is mostly true. Can you elaborate on that?

    Who has a pick for today?

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    That appeared out of nowhere, so hopefully some SBD reels were in the ABCD stash.

    Yeah, the reels weren’t in the vault because they were in the storage shed.
    Fingers crossed.....

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

I completely agree.

On occasion and if I'm not careful volume gets the best of me. One day I might live to regret this. Thankfully, that day was not today.

A new one for me. Some sound weirdness especially in and around banter, but what the hey.

I don't know what it is, but I have soft spot for The Eleven, Born Cross-Eyed and especially New Potatoe Caboose. Good show with some vintage grease to end the night with me feeling a little dirtier than I did when I woke up.

If there's no pick for tomorrow, I suggest the next in line. It's a partial, starts with a rare Clementine. 1/20/68 Euraka Municipal Auditorium. I think we should set up a go fund me to find all the missing reels, there's a couple missing from this show. It would be something for them to be found.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Fri, 09/06/2024 - 06:15

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Hey Jim, I know you have had a lot on you plate this year. Thanks for checking this one out. Yes, the recording is decent, not great. Like a lot of 88 recordings out there. Still think they have some good ones in the Vault.

I liked the show, anytime I see a Hey Pocky Way, I am in. Nice Shakedown to open the second set. Love the triple Encore with China Rider OMSN.

It is good to get out of the comfort zone once in a while Doc.

Carousel Ballroom 68, okay Jim, Ok will have to que it up this morning.

Enjoy the weekend out there.

Edit. Oh and after the carousel ballroom I will be moving on the 12/9/79, Dave's Picks #47. Love this one and I need some 79. If I had the keys, I would be putting out a big 79 Box.

44 years ago today, there when Roy Buchanan along with Levon and His All Stars opened for the Dead. My last in person show, on the bus since their first album, however things had changed so much.... Doc was there, a wild late summer scene, part of my farewell to Maine.

Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-timefavorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solide offical release. It is worthy......

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Hey rockers!!

Yes, we were there and had a blast. Beautiful day and tremendous music. A very fine show by the Dead, one of my all-time favorite in-person Dead experiences.

Would make a solid official release. It is worthy......

Doc
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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 09/07/2024 - 05:42

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I'm in - hopefully sometime this weekend I can transport my mind and spirit into late summer beautiful day/evening Maine. Sounds like a dream show and setting. Very cool that a couple of you guys got to be there. Didn't realize this was the last show before the Warfield run. Long and heartfelt write up on grateful seconds (he was there). Comment at the end from a guy who was 8 at the time and lived a "bike trail" away from the fairgrounds. Listened to part of the show from his clubhouse. Rode his bike over and snuck in. Totally dug the Drums. Made major bank (for a kid) collecting cans and bottles for deposit afterwards (which is exactly what 8 yr old me would have done.) Think I might travel John Deere with the Jim Wise FOB.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 09/09/2024 - 21:03

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But back this week. I can do Lewiston again.

As I recall there is not a good soundboard that circulates, right? And the one that does is first set only and it sure does sound like an audience (or ultramatrix on steroids at least).

High energy though.. like Gainesville, there must have been something in the water.

You have to wonder if this was recorded and if so where the hell are the master tapes? I think someone (Parrish??) tossed out the language that some of the master reels were left on the seat and when the truck pulled away they must have flown out the window or something.

I'd love to see more reels (and cassettes) returned.

Anyway, Lewiston Me for me tomorrow.

Edit: Started tonight - why not? Gave up on the "soundboard" and settled on the Jim Wise same as Bluecrow. Good news, Bluecrow.. The John Deere Broke down and was sitting in the yard for the last half of the week. I got it working today. Had to replace the solenoid. Damned electronics are always interfering with time travel. Just imagine if this broke back in time before Jebediah Solenoid created the first working model for riding mowers.. we would have been screwed.. I mean, nothing wrong with being stuck in 1980 but why not go back another 10 to 15 years...

High energy is right. Pretty good audience.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 09/10/2024 - 21:33

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While I was in the neighborhood, I took a quickie with 11/28/80 Lakeland Civic Center - Lakeland, FL (30 Trips).

I figured why not.. most enjoyable, especially To Lay Me Down. Not sure why I like that song so much, but I do.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 09/12/2024 - 08:07

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Ah, yes, more 1980. You don't have to twist my arm. A shorter show for the time period, but still really good. Will get it going after I finish up Dicks #36, which was mentioned on some other threads. Such a great show, but apparently didn't sell well at the time. No idea why.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 09/12/2024 - 17:31

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Random Musing - 1980

My favorite non-multi-track 1980 release has got to be Dave's # 8, 11/30/80 Fox Theater. Love how that Matrix worked out. If anyone remembers the seaside chat, he was spot on.

Crowd noise was not as big an issue in 1980 as they could play in some pretty intimate venues. Also, as the age of the cassette master replaced the lovely Ms. Cantor Jackson, a lot of those early soundboards are a bit sterile sounding without the crystalline highs and the booming lows. Blending those early 80's soundboards with one of those near perfect audience masters works. When they aged out of the smaller, cooler venues (thinking after Jerry's coma and In The Dark) audience tapes had to compete with hundreds of the guy next to you screaming "JERRY!!" at 95 decibels, this was no longer possible.

That SBD/Dr. Bob matrix is almost exactly perfect (or as good we are going to get for the time).

On the opposite side of the same coin, I think some of the Ultra Matrix's have a bit too much of the guy yelling JERRY! then I sometimes want to hear. Thinking a lot of 87 suffers from this, and by then the audience tapes were no better.

Anyway, if Mr. Norman can pull of similar wizardry I wish they would do more like DaP#8.