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  • Obeah
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    So if we set aside the October shows, '74 only has 35 dates to play with. Of those, at least a dozen are released officially and are complete (or as complete as they are likely to ever be.) Then there are several more where parts of the show were used to create an official release (for ex., Dick's vol 24) or perhaps two shows are excerpted and combined (like with Road Trips Vol 2 Num 3) or even three shows (Dick's vols 7 and 31).

    When all the dust settles, there are really just a handful of shows - Reno, UCSB, Oakland, Springfield, and a few others in July like the Hollywood Bowl - that are still unreleased until you get to the September European expedition. And of that tour, I think only Munich 9/14 and the two Paris shows are unreleased. But then the question becomes, does the vault hold all the reels from each show? Pretty sure 2/22/74 isn't complete, and I imagine there must be others.

    That brings us to the October stand. Does the Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack represent the best we are likely to get from this run? Because I seem to recall there are issues with the master reels. My memory is pretty foggy on that point, though... and it took a bit of work to sneak this post by the "hey now" sentinel.

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    I hear you, but they keep blocking my posts on 74. Great year - I'll leave it at that.

  • TN John
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    1/22/78

    46th anniversary
    Eugene, OR
    DaP 23

  • JoeyMC
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    2/3/78 :)

    2/3/78 :)

    Edit: which should have been released whole. :( (I'm not listening to Dick's 18)
    maybe its a good day for 1/22/78 ??

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    Testing 1, 2. Testing 1, 2, 3. Can everyone hear me? lol
    1974-03-24 cow palace diP 24, it's been awhile since the last listen, so let's get on with the show! ROCK!!

    Peace All!
    uncle_tripel

  • TN John
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    Deer Creek
    DaP 40
    Disc 1 & 2

  • Obeah
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    I was listening to the first of those two San Diego laryngitis shows yesterday. Something about Garcia's playing (for example, on Mexicali -> MAMU) reminded me of the Broome County Arena show from the previous November, 11/6/77. Unsurprising, I suppose, given that those shows are only two months apart. Back to 1/7: what a really well-played first set; that Let it Grow definitely shattered a few minds. And the Dancin->Samson is a real treat. Interesting to compare this rendition to '76 versions, like 6/17/76 Passaic...

  • icecrmcnkd
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    All Bob, with some Donna sprinkles.

  • uncle_tripel
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    the heat is on...

    ...with a high of 30 degrees today, I like when it gets HOT, move that thermometer upward and onward to 1974-02-23
    Peace All!
    uncle_tripel

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    Due to hey nows. It's mentioning 1974 that seems to be the problem.

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Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
Always fun to try and dissect things!

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Hmmmm?
Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
14 mañana…

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4 11 78

Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

Scarlet Fire

GBtGD

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Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

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Rolling into the 15th hot! After second set from the 14th.

B.E. is all over the place. Funny at times! LIG cooks!!

See how this one stands up..
Curious about the sound stage and recording consistency?

EDIT: this one mos def moved up a notch from the one previous time I heard it.
Really sweet show, perhaps most well played consistent of all so far?
Perhaps same with the mix/audio…definitely cymbals now, and everyone is in their proper soundstage position etc, good sheet Mon!
Overall, Maybe not some of the previous fireworks but very few lows. Only Ooops, and a small one, I can think of was in the otherwise delightful Dancing! It’s like their coalescing or morphing into a cohesive beast, but one with patience and finesse, and having a fine time doing so!
Eager to see how the 15 resonates after this one?
Mañana…

Overhead mics: yeah, I’m well aware what they are/for, i was trying to imply that “if” she hadn’t used them at some of the shows, then that might explain less prevalent cymbals…or maybe they were used but turned down…
since the pictures aren’t dated it’s hard to determine. In fact the pic on the last page shows Bob playing an Ibanez Musician Series guitar, which from the pictures I’ve seen (if dated correctly) he used from 5/5/78 until Egypt. So is that picture not from this tour, or did he use it at some point on the tour?
I’ve seen pics of Jerry trying one out also, but no idea when?

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Check the 4-12-78 video, maybe there’s a good shot of the drum setup.

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Finally checked it last night, wow.
Puts a whole new spin on things!
These shows just got even better…

Definitely overheads, but that doesn’t surprise as it’s the first 2 or three shows that sound different.

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Despite the seemingly endless stream of box sets coming into the house I am actually listening to ‘Absolute Elsewhere’ by Blood Incantation. They’re described as death metal in the review in the latest issue of The Wire magazine, but I won’t hold that against them. The reviewer calls it a goddamn masterpiece. I’ll need to listen a few times to see if I agree but it is certainly interesting and I like to hear new things.

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See how it fits into the whole…

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Some of these shows have static I think digital NR was used to attenuate the static and it took the highs also.

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A favorite I had on cassette, way back when...

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Nice Pete Rose shout-out!!!

Charlie Hustle

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...stayin' alive, stayin' alive
April 24 1978
horton field house

lol horton hears keith doin' a my uncle is stayin' alive
while phil continues on with the big river stayin' alive beat

Peace for All!
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First time for this one, another Beauty eh!
Thoroughly dug 4/15, 4/16 and 4/18 this WE!
I’ve given up trying to keep track, their all good in unique ways…
Yeah, I don’t think it’s mics. Gonna do some a/b comparisons mañana…

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Fox Theater, fourth show in the box. Good rowdy start with Promised Land.
Not really saving it but having trouble keeping up a pace. Maybe be finished with the first run through by the time 52 gets here. Purposely not listening to my tapes of that show to keep it fresh. Think I heard it last year as I vaguely remember V-guy recommending it. (Unseasonably hot in Vegas right now - 105 degrees? Wowzer!)
Cheers

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Another first, well, supposedly I have a tape of the second but I sure don’t remember it. Perhaps I will when I hear it…hope it’s as good as the 19…

A woooo!