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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    Strider! Can you please explain how someone calling attention to the repeatedly stale picks, as well as the recent technically deficient FOTD release, is a "buzzkill" ?? As stated, I am personally a huge fan of the Brent years - but the fact remains that the picks are getting stale. I guess if you are not blindly praising and paying Lemieux for whatever half-ass*d product he chooses to put out, then you are a hater. Happy to wear that label if so.

    Personally, I prefer when I purchase something for it to work as expected and not be laden with file errors or poor audio. Did you even listen to 51? Sound quality was utter garbage

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    My favorite show of the 80s.

    Remind me not to read all the comments. Hater posts about this Dead show. No buzz kill please.
    Thank you Dave. Great pick.

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    Best and Worst Times in Santa Fe

    Home town shows for me (lived a couple miles away in La Cienega). It was the Best and the Worst of times....

    Best was 3 Red Rocks shows, then coming home for this, and even better, the night off in between was Zozobra night, the kickoff of Santa Fe's Fiesta weekend...ten thousand plus gathered to burn Old Man Gloom, a 50' puppet, groaning and waving his arms in full ritual glory, letting go all our glooms from the year. So fun to share that with a friend from back east and a couple new show-friends who tagged along as we came south!

    Also Best was the aforementioned weather magic, lightning in the foothills behind the stage as the first set ended, and the rainbow as they cranked it up for set 2 with Help on the Way. Classic!

    The Worst, I'm afraid, reared its head in both concrete and creative realms....The Downs was set up for these shows (as in the previous fall) with the stage facing the grandstand from across the track's oval. This created some awful echoes for those in the middle; of course, you could solve that by moving up close enough to the speakers to overwhelm the echo....or by being way back in the stands....but not ideal for those who like to wander! (a later Lyle Lovett show I saw there rectified this by setting up parallel to the stands).

    Sadly, this show featured what I felt at the time to be my clearest experience of Jerry's issues in these years. The way I heard the Help/Slip/Franklins sequence, Bobby was doing something really fun and creative at one point (I'm a "Bobby Fans are People, Too" guy), and ol' Jer just totally fell off the side of the train at just the point we were primed for him to ante up and raise the stakes. Just lost it. Happens to the best of us, I know....but it was pretty striking at the time.

    The next summer, my compilation of the few(ish) highlights of that year's set of Red Rocks shows was called "Are We Having Fun Yet?" It was a rough stretch for sure.

    Ah, well, not griping about the release or the band or the challenges Jerry was grappling with. Just my memories of these shows.... Which of course were still way fun in the moment despite the transient reminders of the deeper troubles lurking within.

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    Butch - I agree with most of your post - I'm not sure I'd go along with remixing a show and dropping a musician that was there out of the mix ( Brent) however irksome his contributions became.

    I enjoyed a lot of live music in the 1980's that doesn't stand up to close scrutiny now. I saw Hawkwind loads of time in the 80's and always enjoyed it - but I wouldn't recommend any of their live albums from that era. You really had to have been there - and I suspect it's the same with Dead shows. Maybe they will concentrate on souvenir shows from now on - ones that the greatest number of people attended, which would necessarily mean concentrating on 1980s-1990s.
    Not good. This could be the first year when I haven't wanted any of the Daves Picks shows that have come out.

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    Yes, September 11, Dennis.

    Yes, it has been a different couple of years for Dave's Picks, but put me in the camp of wanting more variety, not less. There are tons of great shows out there from all eras. But, not everybody will be happy.

    For me, the Frost shows were my favorite so far and that was a surprise to me, but I really like them and keep listening to them.

    Based on sales, #49 is the only one that is actually sold out. You still have three from last year that are still available. Maybe they should cut it back a few thousand. Not sure that will happen.

    My least favorite of the year was #51, sound quality is not very good.

    I haven't heard the Santa Fe show yet, looking forward to it.

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    When will Lemieux stop hoarding and grifting?

    Could not agree more with Butch's comment about how poor these releases have gotten, and this is coming from a huge fan of the Brent years. David, why do you continue to keep so many of the great, classic shows bottled up and give us this bull instead? Holding it all for the inevitable $5-600 GD60 Box?

    Even worse than the choice of show for Vol 52 - how could anyone confidently expect a quality product from these clowns when the FOTD set was such a flaming pile of trash?

    At my last count nearly 40 tracks in the set are totally unplayable, with no solution from Lemiuex and the crew but a refund - if you take the time to reach out and ask. No one from Dead.net coming out and saying, "hey - don't buy this it doesn't work properly." Very shady if you asked me but oh well, on to the next release of "top notch Grateful Dead music," so who cares! I wonder if/when enough of us heads will realize that these "archivists" are really just grifters ripping us all off.

    My recommendation to anyone reading; buy a cheap external hard drive and fill it with free, high quality FLAC for less $ than you're spending on one or two of these bogus releases. Stop giving David Lemieux your money for nothing of value in return.

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    I see 11 & 40 on the birds,,, I assume the 40 is mick's birthday. Is 11 the date?

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    I'm done subscribing. There is so much good 60s and 70s material in the vault, and half the releases these days are the band on the decline. Doesn't matter how many people were buying tickets for the shows (thus is always the argument for the 80s), the recordings suck. I don't how people can stand listening to that keyboard player's bar band vocals. Sure the concerts were great live and in person, but so were the Stones this year but I am not listening to a recording of them in 2024. It's no secret why sales are down. There used to be so many subscriptions that these things would sell out in less than 24 hours. It goes to show hiw few people want a subscription where they're getting two Brent shows a year, usually with bad audio. I would remix Spring 90 without his vocals or most of his keyboards. Dude, learn when to stop playing. Oh, but he made Jerry smile onstage. Never mind. Keep them coming.

    We had 1 show from before the hiatus in 2024, including the box set. Dave, Rhino, and Pinkus don't deserve my money when they're holding back great material from 68-74. There won't be 25K Dave's Picks per release next year. They got cocky and tried to mix in too much after hiatus music. The Dave's Picks titanic is sinking. Shame.

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    Fall '83!

    For my money, the best tour between the end of 1978 and the Summer of 1987.

    LOVE the cover art!

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    A fun release! Wish I could of seen these two shows cause its NM (an adopted state - work there, all over the state, on a regular basis) and Santa Fe (beautiful fascinating town with deep history - famous for good reasons), and yeah, they're smoking outdoor shows with awesome high desert weather. Really love the racing roadrunners!! NM state bird - always happy with a roadrunner sighting!

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

Admittedly, I have not listened to this box yet. I opened it and inspected the contents and got back to listening to other things--namely Geese (they rock). You say there are 40 tracks unplayable? What shows? Has anyone else had this issue? It give me PTSD from the HCS box set and waiting for those replacement discs.

Now I have to get to listening except it won't be this weekend...too busy seeing live music!

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Dead/WBRhino should adopt a system similar to Pearl Jam, who makes most, if not all, of their shows available. Ordering is easy, you can order as a CD or as FLAC, and the quality is outstanding. I get it is somewhat “apples & oranges” in that Pearl Jam records their shows knowing they will be released, so recording quality is top notch, whereas the Jeffrey Norman team must reconstruct some pretty old tapes for 21st Century listening that were never intended for release.
But the current system of Dave L choosing only 4 shows a year, that never gain full consensus, plus Boxes that often are hit or miss, there must be a better way.
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....but they have a top shelf business model.
Saw Judas Preist Wednesday night. Great show. Rob Halford has still got it 💥

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Nice if they started giving us a hi res file of the cover art.

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That ForensicDoc is a good guy and an outstanding Deadhead.

Also, I'd be stopping by to add my two cents, except the website keeps telling me it doesn't recognize me, bad password, yada yada, when it's been good for 2024 so far. Not a complaint, just a fact.

Oh yeah, my one comment is that the next two picks are "a show," which means that the recently discovered '68 tapes won't make it to a Dave's Pick. Sooo.... how about GD/Rhino do a little special release next year that includes ... 2-3 '68 shows?

How am I doin'?? Getting a little repetitive in my old age??

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First time caller.

A nod to Doc, Sir James and Oro. For obvious reasons.

I first saw the band live in the early 80s. There was nothing better. Not even close. But that era has not aged well. If you like it, so be it. How many of you still have avocado or mustard colored kitchens? Or still wear bell bottom jeans. They were cool back in their time.

The 80s are rough with those plinky keyboards. They just are. Fun at the time, but unlistenable now. To me at least.

I won’t deny that there were some unbelievable shows. Augusta 84, most of the summer of 85, most of 87. Then not so much.

I’m truly happy for the folks that want the later era shows. It’s just not my thing anymore. This release won’t even get played.

When I first discovered the archive and was able to listen to earlier era shows, I was in disbelief. I couldn’t believe how much better the band was back then. To my ears. That music is timeless. Spinning 5/3/72 now.

As the old saying goes, if you can’t spot the donkey, it’s you.

I was the donkey.

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Judas Priest. BITD I was into anarcho punk, crust punk, the UK82 bands, but I largely stayed away from metal. One night a friend and I were doing the thing people did back then - trading rounds and taking turns at "you heard this record?" I hit him with the first Discharge LP (talking about life-changing) but then he hit me back with Priest's "Unleashed in the East". I was super intrigued... a metal band covering The Green Manalishi? And covering Joan Baez?!? (Diamonds and Rust) It was one of those brilliant moments where I realized that my preconceived notions were holding me back from enjoying some amazing music. So it's great to hear Halford and Co are still rocking out.

Now then... HF, can you or can someone elaborate about on comment re: "...the recently discovered '68 tapes" ? Is this just a reference to Bear's banana boxes, or is it something else? For in the immortal words of PG Wodehouse, "you interest me strangely".

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Speaking of bear.............or is it Bear?????

HF may----emphasis on may---be referring to the June 68 recordings I just supplied him with. June 8 and 9, partials, excellent soundboards, these tasty fragments hit general circulation in 2022. For some reason it doesn't get talked about a lot......

OR he may be referring to the previously never-circulated 1968 Dead recording that OSF referenced a while back. I forget the date but I thought it was May.

OSF also verified that they have the April 1969 Avalon run, although the 6th remains incomplete.

OSF hasn't put out any Dead releases yet but what they have issued is excellent quality and always very interesting. I highly recommned them...........

Time for more coffee, and walking dogs............

Bear up, my child, bear up; Zeus who oversees and directs all things is still mighty in heaven.....

Rock on,

Doc
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Jeff smith is away on a trip. He posted that he would provide the scans when he gets back. Another poster said he would provide also, just cant remember who. Jeff's stuff is always an impressive scan.

Cheers!

Edit: You can probably go ahead and send him a DM here. He will get back with you that way but you could also put an email in the DM and I am sure he will send directly. Can't remember how long he was away but guessing he is back in next 10 days or so.

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I would personally LOVE IT.

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I'm just a tad fuzzy this morning, so I won't look up the dates, but yes, Obeah, at least (3) known '68 tapes have not been released. As HendrixFreak, I'm acutely aware of the passage of time and the need for the band's early development to get a full airing. Forensic Doc probably covered an answer to your question.

I find myself falling into Angry Jack Straw's camp. I'm happy that an '83 release floats a lot of boats, but I'm interested in Norman-ized early years, specifically late '67 to '74. We've got most of '74, a ton of '73, leaving fall '72 as rich in unreleased shows that should be a box. Spring '71 still has gold in them thar hills. We know that '70 tapes are rare but whatever's there deserves attention. Then there's the writhing beast of '67-'69.

As for surprises, it's well known that a decade ago Mtn Girl turned over a few GD reels from the early '70s. And recently she went to an archivist in Seattle to digitize several boxes of reels and cassettes from Jer's stash -- mostly JG side trips, is my impression.

So, lots of goodies floating around. I've been a steady customer since 1971, though I stepped off the (GD) bus in '87, burnt to a crisp and tired of "the scene." Now it's down to the tapes. And I find myself focusing on the front end of the band's development. (Though '89 has some monster shows...) Those of us who want what's left of the '68 beast are gettin' old and NOW is probably a good time to get the early stuff out. (And get off my lawn, etc....)

Okay, rambling now. A second cup of Joe should help.

Paz, HF

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The ptb are communicating to us that the well of what they consider releaseable is running dry.

They will never tell us directly of course.

We are indeed getting older every day, so please, ptb: release that 60s stuff asap. If you have it.

I am perfectly happy with 9 11 83. I would love to see a bunch of 60s next year, too.

I will listen, subscribe, and sit right here until I die.

Aye, the writhing beast.

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Said you were using eletrostatic speakers,,, what are they?

I have a set of magnepan mg-iii from 83,,,, still love them,,,, still same "con", space needed to use properly.

Dennis

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Angry Jack

avacado/mustard are both back (still ugly as sin,,, the green was worst!)

obeah - thanks for the heads up on Judas Priest doing Diamonds and Rust. I would/will mark me in the camp as not liking Priest like music, but, I say this with NO knowledge of thier music. This will give me a foothold to grab (can you grab a foothold?)

Just got in a huge bear family set of Merle Haggard. Another I know nothing about, well this I put in the phone and will start to shove my way thru.

So much music goes by on this site,,, thanks everyone!

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Hey rockers!!

Since HF mentioned the fabulous Fall of 1972..........

By that time Owsley was out of jail and back recording. We know he recorded at least one of the September Boston Music Hall shows. Hopefully he recorded the Texas shows---which would make a fine box set---and maybe just maybe those are in those banana boxes. The ones that I remain very curious about........

One can always dream.......

If the king loves music, there is little wrong in the land.....

Rock on,

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QUAD ESL 63's - the greatest transducer ever designed

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Great speakers, but do you get enough bass from them?

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If ever there were a show ripe for release it's 10/19/71. Just because.

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the show that benefitted the most from the "Plangent process" in the Listen to the River box is 10/19/72 - what we had before grated ... now is beautiful. Gracias, PTB.

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Saw this release announcement. Subscribed, as I have since the beginning with the last Road Trips year run, and will continue to do so. I love these releases. This year's picks have been solid for me. The 1978 box is cool. I listened through every show once so far and there is some great playing, even with a lot of repetition in song choices for that tour.

Recently listened to the "In and Out of the Garden" MSG 83 shows from that fall tour and they are quite remarkable. The Hartford Dicks Picks 83 show second set pre-drumz segment has Jerry playing incredibly inspired. Brent was always awesome.

I'll never understand the resentment towards any era of the Dead. It's all good. Sure, 94-95 saw Jerry gradually dying from his health issues at a much too young age. I'm now several years older than he was when he died, but he was an old soul even back at the beginning of their career together as a band. I feel fortunate to have seen them about 50 times from 84-95. Almost every show I attended were great, well performed shows, up until the very last two where Jerry looked defeated from life, touring, addictions and the stress from fans that lost touch of the scene which led to incidents like Deer Creek 95.

More recently, caught the Phish shows with Billy Strings sitting in and they are playing fabulously these days. I hadn't seen them for quite a while (a few shows between 94-96 and a show in 2017). I feel I've been missing out and hope they keep that going.

Also seeing Stevie Wonder for the 1st time (fan for almost 50 years), and catching the King Crimson "Beat" line-up in a few weeks. Also caught Marcus King for the first time (great show highly recommended) as well as Warren Haynes on his symphony tour, Greensky (with Billy Strings yet again. Only recently picking up on his thing and that kid can play). Also caught a solo Trey TAB show, which was excellent, plus The Four Tops and Temptations on their current lineups (wish I could've seen them back in the day. Still quite entertaining, plus a couple of songs performed that Jerry covered!).

All in all this has been a fun year musically. If a certain villian gets enough votes to repeat and escalate his dismantling of our country, the fin stuff will evaporate and we'll probably all lose our jobs, pensions, retirements and God knows what else. All I can say is please vote and keep that ruthless crooked bastard out.

I guess I'm up to date now. Later....

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True they don't shake your gut like moving coils do but the definition is superb. The QUADS go down to 40 Hz and Phil can still rattle the furniture!

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Yes, I'm vying for worst subject line ever. I'd have done better to follow Dennis' lead and just title it "things". But Mercy and Goodness and Sweetness and Light, you good people gave me a lot to think about!

Thanks Doc and HF for filling me in on those '68 developments. I know there are some vectors like Dead Legs and Dead Air that seem to regularly surface new stuff - or new sources for existing stuff. Not sure who all is part of GEMS but they seem to do heroic work, too. But I tend to run behind the curve, so I appreciate this intel.

@HF I do share your wish the PTB would be a bit more... sensitive? attuned?... to the passage of time. As you said the '70 selections in the vault are pretty sparse. But all the more reason to work on what is there and get it released. If I could rub the lamp and get the genie to grant me influence with the archivist, I'd push for a 'sea change' in the way Lemieux et al approach the box set for the 60th anniversary year. Viz. I'd like to see them curate the entire vault contents for 1970 (or perhaps 1967 and/or 1968 - I pass over 1969 just because I feel it's well-represented already and the need is less pressing) and if a given date doesn't meet the necessary benchmarks to allow it to emerge as a traditional Dave's release (for ex. Vols 19 and 30), then Mockingbird Master what's there, and release it piecemeal. In this way one could build up a historic box... and the sparse nature of the vault's inventory for '70 should make this doable... if they could do 80 CDs for 30 Trips, there's no reason they couldn't do that again for this project.

This would be one of the most important and foundational archival releases that could ever happen, and it seems only right for it to get out while the remaining participants from that era are still on this side of the ground.

More realistically: it would not surprise me at all to see Fall '72 get amalgamated into a box.

The Diamonds and Rust connection with Judas Priest was quite deliberate... I think their producer suggested it to them as a way for them to get radio play in the United States. Somewhere there's an interview with Halford that goes into more detail. I think it says a lot about the band that they didn't dismiss it out of hand and instead really went for it. The whole thing is fascinating on many levels, not least because their cover of the song is quite good. And that's not just my opinion; Baez herself has praised it effusively.

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Little 1970 in the vault.. yet the booklet to Daves 51, claims (page13)"This period of 1970 was the only gap in the Deads archive".. is this true.. ? BW from Copenhagen

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In regard to 1970...................

Beginning in the Summer and continuing through the Fall and into early Winter, big chunks of 1970 are "missing", probably because they were never originally recorded. There are a few exceptions, most of which are worthy of release some day......

One of the more significant missing pieces is the September Fillmore East run, which was recorded clandestinely by the FE crew. It appears that a lot of those reels went MIA over the years..........

The FW runs of February and April are missing some important parts, maybe they'll be returned some day. Almost the complete June run is there, but I would not recommend those for a box set----portions are kind of rough, although what is there is generally very good............

Many early 1970 shows were recorded and are worth releasing eventually. I would really like to see Corvallis released some day-----really good show.

There are a lot of missing shows from the early years, 1966-1968, which were probably just not recorded or broadcast live on the radio. It appears that they started recording more consistantly in 1969, although frankly, some of those haven't held up too well.........

There are some "missing gaps" from later years, January 1979 comes to mind, as well as some individual "missing shows"----Detroit 10/30/72, with the mind boggle Truckin' comes to mind................

Time for more coffee, dogs, grocery shopping...............

Rock on,

Doc
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Will make for a great release one day!

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For those of you waiting for some good scans of the FOTDs box, I am sorry I am taking so long. . . Got back from Europe this past Monday only to have to drive a day later 8 hours each way to a funeral. Got back yesterday, and have out-of-town company coming Monday. Whew. One of these days. . .

In the meantime I'll check with our ace-up-the-sleeve, Coperdomebodhi to see if he has anything to share. Onward.

PS: Haven't had time to reflect, but I'm pretty sure we had an amazing time in Athens and Rome, even if we missed David Gilmore by a week. . .

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Vguy,

Love the Vote icon!

I myself voted early and dropped off my ballot this morning here in CO.

Remember, wise man say, "Get out and vote, - removes stubborn orange stains!"

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I've been passing on most Daves picks. I don't want a cassette remaster.

Time to redo dicks picks with Plangent Process, remaster and remix.

....hope you and the wife has a great time!
Mailed my ballot yesterday. We are not going back dammit! Especially with Project 2025 on the table. Scary shit my friends.

The impression I get is that the shows from the first half of the year were much hotter than the ones that followed. Understandably, so - they were perfecting a well worn repertoire and approach in the first 6 months. After that they introduced more country based songs, and to my ears, it took a while to do this successfully. The jams seemed a little less impressive too, as the year progressed. I have never been that keen on 11/8/69, Dicks 16, for example - even though it's often hailed as a classic. I'm sure there are great shows across the year - but less so, perhaps, as it progressed.
Pity that all the Daves Picks from 1969 have been from the end of the year. It would be great if something from Jan -May could be released.

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4/5 & 6/69 Avalon Ballroom, 6/27 & 28/69. Santa Rosa, 10/31/69 San Jose State. All these shows would make for fantastic releases.

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Liked the cover by JP because it meant

ROYALTIES

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The variety of comments and opinions on this site never ceases to amaze me

Currently listening to 6 22 91

Nice Shakedown Street

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This is for young Billy, and all other lovers of 1969 live Dead..........may have commeted on this before, so apologies........

The two Santa Rosa shows are definitely in the vault. The kind folks at the GEMS network put very nice remasters into circulation in December 2023. Very interesting shows. Oddball tuneage meets big jams. If rock and roll has to be weird, lord let it be like this........

OSF has the Avalon run, with a slightly more lengthy version of 4/6, I think by 2 or 3 songs. Apparently there are no surviving complete copies. This is a pretty remarkable three show run, with lots of big jams. Would make a nice mini-box, or maybe could be combined with the Ark shows, for a box set that would sell out in about five seconds..........

Not so familair with the Halloween show, although it sounds like we need an upgrade.

Desperately need an upgrade of Crockett as well. Probably wouldn't sell well as an official release, who really wants a 43 minuite Lovelight? Well maybe me, HF, and three others lol...........

Things felt pretty crazy on earth in 1969, but the cosmos was friendly.....

Back to red zone...........

Doc
My awareness left my body and ego, and went on a grand tour of the cosmos.

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We over here can't even believe he's on the ballot!
Here's to common sense - the world is in a perilous state

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46 years ago ( where does the time go) I was up at Winter land for a knockout of a show with the Good old Grateful Dead. Killer version of Black Peter. This would make a great release. Fun times.

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OH YEAH!!!! In fact that whole run of the From Egypt With Love (10/17-10/22) shows needs to be Normanized, 10/21 is my all time favorite show from the entire year.

GD 1969-11-15 9538.tiedrich.miller.clugston just happens to be on one of the microSDXC cards (512 GB each) in the music player (iBasso DX120) currently connected to my stereo system.
Playing the show now (currently on ChinaCat).
Yes, the audio quality needs an upgrade, and hopefully a better sounding version is in the Vault.

Thanks for the nudge Doc.
Should be to Lovelight about the time I start grilling….

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This is the Lovelight where Pig tells Bob to make some ‘commentary’ during Lovelight.
Bob applied that knowledge in the 80/90’s.

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…was busy listening to a 43-minute Lovelight.

Just lit the grill and started playing Lovelight for a second time.

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Regardless of what Dave decides to release it’s still gonna be bought but if it were me and I don’t wish that either I would’ve done the 82 Santa Fe October 17…why because I have the Silberman Sony PCM F1 Sennheiser 441s FOB of both the 10th & 11th and they are Crush i mean they are A++ Killer Sound and the sbd master analogs as well but I prefer this Silbermans Recording over the Analog Cassette Master Soundboards of this particular show including both days the 10th or the 11th and that’s relatively early for Any Digital Audience recordings to surface from…1983…Really!?! Very very few other tapers using the F1 Sony Betamax in the field !! The Sony D5 and the Sony D6 were reining Supreme at Dead shows along with the Marantz recorder! Oh schucks that’s my 2cents hats off and many thanks to the recently departed Mr Silberman he has given a lot to the Dead community Sonically and Spiritually! Thanks to Jerry his band mates and again to Dan Healy Betty Cantor Jackson Owlsley who Dialed up that Fn’ Clean Ass sound we bopped Chased and hung onto to through all these years God Bless you All and if not Oh Well !!

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...releases in 3 DAYS
on 10/24...
with more
announcements close behind...
gonna be an enjoyable day
on halloween

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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I would think we would have an announcement this week. We will see.

Seems like #53 might not follow past first release of the year eras.

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November is real close, and I wonder if the Archives Web Site will be up again? I have come to rely on it heavily for guessing the songs! Damn shame it was an internet thief ransomeware online terrorist whateva mudda fugga responsible for the problem, versus just some in-house techy glitch, call the computer geeks not the FBI.
I don't think they announce the following year's first two Dave's picks by specific shows until December, if I remember right.
The early bird special is the main November announcements, then as a push for subscriptions they'll tell us the first 2 shows in December with bonus disc as incentive. With the January news email comes the #53 in depth analysis, I can't wait!

1700 in 25h, kids still got it!
Neal and Jack would be proud lol

So many nice posts covering lots of ground! And nice to see Spacebro, HF and AJS! As well as a couple names I don't know.

10/20/84, good show horrible venue. Wild rest area pane disbursement story on the way to the show for another time...; )
All kinds of talk of other goodies and eras, no bias here, like the Pig, I want it all! Lol
But 6/30/86 really caught my eye as you don't hear much about that under rated beauty! One of those had to be there that the tapes just don't quite capture.
One of the few shows we got good inside seats! We were such pigs on that tour it's a miracle we didn't just turn into a mushroom; )
Ok, shit to do, then big sleep and turn right around and head back manana...
On the road again, sure as your born ..

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That's 68mph including breaks.
Cannonball run!
Did you sleep? Take turns driving?
Or were there stimulants involved, lol?
Well beyond my abilities.
We stop at motels after 8-9 hrs.
Be careful out there my friend.
Cheers
Starting 4-12-78 today.

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The first show of the year is always revealed with the announcement of the subscriptions for the following year.
They usually role out the second pick of the year in December.

Deadvikes
What do you mean about eras?

I am impatiently waiting for a shipping notification, not that it matters but I still get excited when it comes.

You guys got me wanting to listen to this show with the 43 minute lovelight, I will have to put in a request with the kind and generous man with all the tunes!

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