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  • fourwindsblow
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    Drum mic's

    Among others they would have a mic over each drummer either hanging or on stands four feet above each drum kit since sound rises from the drums, cymbals.

  • proudfoot
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    4 11 78

    Finished 10 8 89 and 4 14 78 earlier today

    Scarlet Fire

    GBtGD

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Hmmmm?
    Another quirky good but inconsistent show?
    Definitely a creeper. Starts a bit off (technically and otherwise) but by mid set they start settling in and syncing up. Second set, like much of this tour may not be flawless, but their is some fine playing and highlights!. And I’ll have to find that video cause wondering WTH was up with JG at the end etc? Wow?
    These shows are hard to pin down, interesting run.
    14 mañana…

  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

  • fourwindsblow
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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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    4/14 set 2

    here we go! set 1 was okay! I like where set 2 is going...

    Samson oh yeah!! Lions Den for sure!! Growls...

    Music swinging!!

    The Natives are restless!

    That was fun!

    Love them while you can, for someday they'll be gone.

  • proudfoot
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    4 11 78

    When i first heard it back in later 80s I was amazed at the post drumz sequence. I didnt know they had done it.

    Nowadays its like "cool"
    Back then it was like "wow!"

    At the moment
    4 14 78 looks Like Rain (never one of my favorites)

    Due to holiday no need to go to work so plenny o' GD

    Yay!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    4-14-78

    I’m going in order and will do 4-15 next to see (hear) how it compares to the Box.

    I like 4-10 and 11 a lot, but they’re also burned into my synapses from having them on cassette and then CD-R.

  • proudfoot
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    this series of shows

    nothing has really caught fire for me (I am jumping around in the sequence)

    however

    4/14/78 before work today sounded hot.

    also:

    in the car I am listening to 10/8/89

    good stuff
    really good stuff

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...with some unbelievable dry sunny weather
(82 degrees in these parts) in the mid-atlantic for late october,
I'm putting on my boogin' shoes for
oakland coliseum
june 8th 1974

can hardly wait to get started...

PEACE for ALL!
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I was there, I recognized the t-shirt Jerry is wearing :-)

Second set opened with a great Cold Rain & Snow intro that stretch until the first raindrops started down, then, "I married me a wife.....", and the cold rain poured down!

And poor Dennis in only a t-shirt!

Dark Star just started.

12-18,19-73, and the other chop jobs from that Fall tour (11-20, 11-30, 12-4, 12-6) should be Plangentized/Normanized, Boxed up, and released.

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...to build upon #52 and continue the 80's theme 'til delivery day
(order confirmation "check!")

turn-on, tune-in, and veg out (that was the 80's, right?)

october 22 1983 carrier dome syracuse ny

jerry noodles set 2 opener
crazy->tease->fingers->china cat

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After 2 1700 mile RTs and all that road noise and not much sleep, I’m basking in glorious quiet!
Did catch a nice 12/30/81 I don’t believe I’ve heard before, on the XM around 2AM Wednesday!

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But in 12 hours I'll be listening to, and seeing wit mine own eyes, Los Lobos, for the umpteenth time, at the beautiful Lobero Theater. World Series game 1> Los Lobos.
This will be a fun evening.

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Edit: just heard Phil passed : (
May the four winds blow him safely home!
Thanks for everything! So much, I can’t even begin to comprehend…

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Phil’s birthday.

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After a emotional Phil centric playlist we also fired up 3/15/90!
Man that sounds good!
And popped a Fremont Dark Star Stout in his honor, SALUTE!

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I was always a Phil guy. Jerry and Phil, no offense to the others. After Jerry passed, I was on the Phil side as close as I could get.

I'm sad beyond description. Phil made a difference. With all the trouble in the world, when I think of bombs, they are always Phil Bombs.

Again, sad beyond what words can describe. May the four winds blow you safely home Mr. Lesh.
There's a weird emptiness here tonight. A well-earned void.

Edit: I changed my mind and went for Augusta 84. Phil denotes and destroys the final jam in Morning Dew. The Phil and Jerry combo was just exactly perfect. I'll do 3/15/90 tomorrow.

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In a conversation with CNN in 2006, Lesh reflected on the feeling of performing with his bandmates.

“It’s paradise. At that moment, I’m not really there. And no one is. We are the music, and our personalities as such really cease to exist at all. We’ve been subsumed into the greater personality of the group mind, that’s what’s been created. That’s what’s created when we are creatively improvising, and the flow is really happening. When we are actually channeling, we are opening that pipeline to another reality that speaks to us. And we are acting as transformers, and we have to step that down into musical thought. But this is not something you can do consciously, learn how to do or be taught. It’s just something that happens to you when the stars are aligned properly and when your individual consciousness is open enough.”

"November and more, as I wait for the score,
They're telling me forgiveness is the key to every door.
A slow winter day a night like forever,
Sink like a stone, float like a feather.
Lilac rain, unbroken chain, Song of the sawhet owl.

Out on the mountain, it'll drive you insane, Listening to the winds howl
Unbroken chain of sorrow and pearls, Unbroken chain of shy and sea.
Unbroken chain of the western wind, Unbroken chain of you and me."
- Robert Peterson

"You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall you fall alone
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home"
- Robert Hunter