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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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November 21, 2024 - 1:10pm

#51

proudfoot

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it's world philosophy day

please go to that toob and listen to MPFC's Philosophers Song.

I learned a whole lot of philosophers names by that song

IIIIIImanuel Kant was a real pissant
who was very rarely stable...
November 21, 2024 - 12:07pm

#52

billy the kiddd

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Box Sets

Avalon Ballroom, Fillmore East & West, Greek, Warfield, Ventura,Frost, Oakland, Winterland, big or small Ill take them all.
November 21, 2024 - 11:58am

#53

Oroborous

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I feel ya DR

And agree with all, except the mediocre part (but no problem one man gathers what another man spills and we’ve already been through all that lol) ; )
I’m just afraid if we get too picky we’ll end up with nothing sooner than later…
November 21, 2024 - 11:30am

#54

daverock

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Boxes disappearing into infinity

I liked the idea that Jim posted that we have a couple of small boxes a year, not just one. I would be more likely to buy a mini box than a big one - unless it was something which was really special to me. For me, this 1978 box was way too big, and the quality of the shows doesn't justify the expense.
An FM Fall 1971 box was suggested as a good idea recently, and somebody printed a list of all the shows that had been recorded in this way at that time. For me, it would be way over the top to release all of them in a huge, and hugely expensive box. But a few well selected shows, would make a truly great box

It also has to be said that at 67, it is by no means certain that I will still be alive in 5-10 -15 years time. So any business plan that is looking at the long term isn't really relevant to me. A selfish reaction, perhaps, but I would hope for the cream of the crop being released ASAP - not padded out with average shows so the release plan can stretch on for another 15 years. If they take much longer to get to 9/70, or the Ark shows from 1969, there might be none of us left to buy them !
November 21, 2024 - 11:16am

#55

Vguy72

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Boxes....

....big. Small. I want them all.
FYI. If you have Spotify, bootleg gizzard uploads soundboards from their shows. Check it out!
Listening to the San Diego show from a couple of weeks ago now.
November 21, 2024 - 11:06am

#56

ronmarley1

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Mixed Box

I wouldn’t mind seeing a box from Family Dog at the Great Highway. Even if it’s only bits of shows that are releasable.
There’s a couple 30 DoD selections from this year that got me thinking about this.
November 21, 2024 - 10:42am

#57

DeadVikes

Joined:
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OB/Box Sets

Yes, small boxes in addition to the one big box. Of course you are correct, these releases all need to sell out to keep the party moving.

How many Dave's Picks are still for sale from the last two years?
Two box sets still for sale as well.

Hard it know which Dave's will sell out next.

I would also add a fifth pick in mid to late December. Would be fun.
November 21, 2024 - 10:11am

#58

Oroborous

Joined:
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Manbearpig…

…Pulls at “the roost” lol ; )

Hate to be contrarian, but I don’t like the small boxes, seem like kinda a waste.
Since we only get one lousy box a year, I like em as big as possible!
Plus, it’s a good way to get some shows out that might be on the fence otherwise.

Riddle me this Batman: how many more years do you think this will continue especially when people are selective and don’t support it?
Sorry, I get why folks don’t want what they don’t want, and that is fine and dandy! But, this is unfortunately a business, the business of selling things, and if people don’t buy those things, they’ll just stop making/selling them…so how many more years do you really think this will go on?

So X equals what, 5, 10, maybe 15 years…so X times the pace/methodology they’ve been continually using =
Years
5= 5 boxes TOTAL, plus (4 DaP X 5= 20)
10= 10 boxes TOTAL, plus (4 DaP X 10= 40)
15= 15 boxes TOTAL, plus (4 DaP X 15= 60)

I’m gonna guess he’ll keep going to DaP 100 just for shits and giggles and because it’s a nice round number, and we’re into the 13 year I believe, so 12 or so more to get to 100, and figure in Dave’s age etc, and that’s my guess.
Hell do it for 25 years and 100 DaP,… IF…the sales support it…

So that would be mean only 12 or 13 more boxes at current methodology.
So 12 mini boxes is only 24-36 shows, versus at the current average of 5 or 6 shows per box gives us 60-72 shows…a nice 8 show box like this years would be a total of 96 shows! (Don’t worry, there are plenty of good shows left!, just maybe not what YOU like ; )

Now I’m sure some who only want a small, selective set of shows wouldn’t care, but for those who want as much as possible, it’s a waste to have to wait a whole year for just a 2 show box. And!…what if you keep waiting on that one special one YOU must have from i.e., fall 70, or April 69, Rochester 85, Philly 89, or whatever etc, , but increasingly they (hopefully) give more attention to all eras, that means your odds of getting what you want diminishes greatly…
No, I’m greedy, I want it all, so I think boxes should be bigger like some other bands do, not smaller. How big was that Floyd box, how many discs?

Now if they changed their methodology and increased the rate of releases, (I think this is what Jim said?) great! I don’t care how they do it, just so we get the maximum amount of shows fixed up and released! So no, imho if small boxes replace a larger one it’s no bueno! But hey, that’s just me.

If I was in charge, lol,( yee gads run for the hills lol) if I was in charge I’d do
5 DaP a year with more dbl shows
1 or 2 minis a year
1 bigger box a year
and bring back the occasional stand alone show/release ala Nightfall of Diamonds, Rocking the Rhein, Ladies and Gentlemen, Dozen at the Nick etc etc,
And! yes full shows are the gold standard, but I think most of us wouldn’t care if we got some RJ shows (top shelf where mama hides the cookies) that were chopped up, if that’s the only way to get them out…

Just a thought…careful what you wish for!
Ok, now the mob can tell me I’m wrong lol, which is fine, just be nice ; )

EDIT: agree with the crow: dial back the bollocks and just give us more shows!
November 21, 2024 - 10:07am

#59

Crow Told Me

Joined:
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Mini Me

FWIW I would love to see a move toward smaller boxes. If only because I'm running out of space!

I'm probably in the minority here, but I wouldn't mind seeing the packaging dialed back a little bit. Sure, it's fun to unpack a box like FOTDs, with all little boxes and doodads, but I'm really only it in for the music. Once you look at all the "extras" they just become more stuff you have to store someplace. And speaking for myself, there's not much available space left.

Something like the 1976 box a couple years back struck a nice balance: the packaging was enough to make it seem special, but it didn't take up a lot of shelf space. Or look at something like, say, the Fox Box the ABB did: three shows, 8 CDs, and it doesn't take up more shelf space than 2-3 regular CDs.

I suppose this is what you'd call a 'first world problem': we've got so many desirable reissues that some of us are running out of places to keep them! But I'm actually serious. I wouldn't mind seeing smaller, less expensive, less "deluxe" boxes. Cause it's all about the music, main.

Last five:

King Crimson: Starless and Bible Black
Duke Ellington: New Orleans Suite
Mile Davis: Miles in France '64 & '64
Brad Mehldau: Your Mother Should Know
Jefferson Airplane: Loves You

OK now I gotta go to the dentist, so by the time you read this I'm prolly dead.
November 21, 2024 - 9:05am

#60

DeadVikes

Joined:
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Box Sets

I like this idea Jim. More music would always be better.

I think the last time we had two box sets released in a year was back in 2017. They released GSTL which broke the site and the RFK Box in the fall.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

I am from the East Coast and…

I am from the East Coast and was in Santa Fe for a work related trip and got to this show. I have some pics from up close and one that stands out is Phil sharing the mic with Bobby (wish I could post it here!) - this was probably a rarity them both sharing one mic (like the Beatles did). I have a pic with rainbow in the background as well. Cool show!!

Shipping Update

Welp, it’s made it to the hub in Rossford, OH, which is about 1.5 hours from my house. It’ll be interesting to see how long it sits there before it makes it to me.

More Phil on vinyl

11-10-67.
Spectacular!
And I’m only in the first song, that being Viola.

Anniversary show 10/28/84 B.C.T.

40 years ago it was Sunday night with the Grateful Dead, great show. Fun times.

Phil

Alembic mission control. Groovy bass. So long, Phil. I dedicate Moby Grape - boysenberry jam to Phil.

#52

Anyone receive this one yet?

Mine is now scheduled for this Friday, November 1.

Would love an expedited shipping option.

14838

Arrived through time travel, here in Central New York.

It's amazing how fast they CAN come, but usually don't. I think it left Fontana on the 26th...

The Downs Of Santa Fe....

....scheduled to arrive on Halloween 🎃.

RGM & Rhino

RGM CD Sale -
Road Trips Vol.1 No.1 - Fall '79 $16.99
RT Vol.1 No.2 - Oct '77 $14.99
RT Vol.1 No.4 - From Egypt w/ Love $19.99
Dick's Picks - 14 & 28 are $39.99 each,
DiP - 32 is $24.99
For those that need to fill in.

Rhino -
Has a new Rush compilation.
Atlantic years '89-'96 on 6 LPs.
If you're into that sort of thing.

Cheers

Pending

Mine is here in NYC but acceptance is pending I suspect I will see it tomorrow. First time however I never even got an estimated delivery date. I ordered an LP from phish came damaged I replied to shipping email got help within 15 minutes and the replacement is out the door and on it’s way amazing how good customer service can actually be it is possible Warner rhino whomever.

mine arrived yesterday

not sure when I can give it my full attention, but sometime soon

Santa Fe

Arrived yesterday. Listened to first couple songs first set. Very punchy beginning.

It's that time of year y'all....

....time for my annual viewing of The Exorcist.
Good, scary stuff.
RIP Teri Garr.
Sucks that a lot of my favorites are passing away.
Que sera sera.

Shipping

My copy is scheduled to arrive in Maryland on Saturday 11/2...8 days after the "release date".

So frustrating.

52

Out for delivery.
A day early,
so to speak.
Cheers

Favorite Teri Garr performances;
- Original Star Trek episode - Gary Seven
- Mr. Mom
- Young Frankenstein

Waiting…

UPS Mail Innovations is horrible. Mine left Fontana, CA on 10/26 and arrived in Rossford, OH on 10/28. It took 51 hours to drive it 2,194 miles. It’s been sitting in Rossford for 50 hours, which is only 105 miles from my house. According to Google Maps, I could walk there in 39 hours. It’s scheduled to be delivered tomorrow, but there’s no way that’s gonna happen if it’s not even at my local post office yet.

Anniversary show 10/30/84. B.C.T.

40 years ago I was up at the B.C.T for a knockout show with the Grateful Dead, they kicked off the show with Dancing in the Streets and Dire Wolf. This was my favorite show of the run, but they all were great! I bought a cool poster outside the show from Rick Griffin, very cool. Big fun!

Mail Enervations

Mine took 36 hours to go from Carlsbad to San Leandro - not even 500 miles. And it was picked up late at night, or at least that's when it was scanned, so passing through the greater LA area on its way North shouldn't have been too slow. Ah well. I'm still working my way through the '78 Box so speed isn't of the essence for me with this release.

Something up with the store?

Something up with the store? Keep getting the oops something went wrong message.

Release date

Is not delivery date.

Got mine today, hope you all get yours soon.

Speed isn't of the essense....

....just wait until you hear it Obeah. Then get back to me 🍻.

you're on, Vguy

Sounds like this is the '83 I need! We'll revisit this after I take delivery <3

CD1 spinning

Currently on WLA.
Still got my subwoofer turned up, might need to turn it down a bit, house is vibrating.
This may the best sounding ‘83 recording I’ve heard.
The centerfold of the booklet makes it look like the show wasn’t all that crowded.

Ready, set, go...

Neighbors forewarned.

Set 2 qued.

Volume up.

Yes.

#16,749 Arrived

Mine went thru Rossford and arrived today in Cleveland suburb.

Let It Grow

Burning up my speakers.
It’s hot.

Conekid....

....damn straight sir!
I have good picks as well. I am so happy this got officially released.

Indeed RIP Teri Garr

She was cool

"Roll roll
Roll in ze hay!"

Interesting tidbit of info: my coworker's father's partner was a caregiver to TG (TG had multiple sclerosis)

Y'all be cool, TG

#17725.....

....Has arrived just a bit outside Rose City, Oregonia!
Downloaded to the computer and thoroughly enjoying.

Anniversary show 10/30/83 Marin Veterans Auditorium

41 years ago, I was up at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium for an absolute knockout of an evening with the Good old Grateful Dead. We really cut loose at this show, and it was a blast! Fun times!

Well, I Met #11,554 Accidentally, In Saint Paul, Minnesota

This space is getting hot inDEED! Listened to the first disc while trying out the new Joss Cocobolo pool cue that also arrived today--love them BOTH!

Left California.

At this moment, my Dave's 52 is on a flight from LAX to Frankfurt. After that it has to get from Germany to the Netherlands, through customs and on to PostNL who will deliver it. With luck, I'll have it sometime next week.

#24588

Has arrived in TN. It will be the weekend before I can delve into it.

#12297

Currently on disc one and the sound and playing are great!

West LA has some extra funk/zip to it. Very nice!!!

Hope every one waiting gets theirs soon, as the long shipping can be a drag.

In a nod to Warner Music, they have kept the price good on the Dave's releases.

Maybe priority option for shipping??

rock on, gang

In UK

Mine has arrived in the UK. The Hermes tracking link on the DHL site doesn’t work but entering the tracking number into EVRI tracking shows that they got it this morning. It’s not likely to arrive before next week as EVRI doesn’t usually deliver at the weekend. I look forward to playing it.

No Shipping Notice Yet

No Shipping Notice Yet
???

Shipping Update 2

First off, I’m not complaining. Even if I did get it today, I would not be be able to dive in until the weekend.
It did arrive in Cleveland yesterday, after sitting in Toledo for 2.5 days. It was then shipped down to Akron, where it sat for about an hour. Then it was sent back to Cleveland, where it’s been for about 15 hours.
So silly…

#10406

In the house 2 days ahead of original scheduled delivery. Been on the road for 2 weeks, got back last night, and it was delivered to the PO this morning. Lucky in that USPS and UPS in this small part of the intermountain west are both excellent and preferred for delivery and UPS Surepost generally operates seamlessly and as designed. My copies are never shipped in the first wave but when they hit the road they generally move smooth.

Spinning Disc 1 now. Sounds great! Cut my deck to the Queen of Spades but the cards were all the same!

BOOOO, Scary

Received notice the 23rd; still hasn't been received by shipper. Now I am scared, don't know what is going on.

As Eric once sang, "I'm Waiting!"

So waiting patiently, may be here today for all I know.

Smile, everyone have a Happy Halloween!!!

Dang, game 5 for a interested bystander turned out wild to watch. For me, no emotional ties.

Edit game 5.

BTK 1984 BCT

Love that run. I always got hung up on 1984/10/28. From what I remember had long, deep freak time on a short setlist. Again, very old memories indeed, over 20 years for sure since last go round. Haven't heard 1983/10/30. Look forward to it someday soon.

#7597

Has arrived on schedule. No issues. Not listening tonight.
"Night of the Living Dead" takes priority. "They're coming to get you, Barbara."
Happy Halloween, everybody!

Sante Fe / Red Rocks

Just got the new Sante Fe show and love it!! Almost went to this show but ran into difficulties after the Red Rocks shows right before . . . I have a question for Dave: When are we going to get some Red Rocks Shows?

Yeah Dave...

What he said.
August '78 pair of shows.
Lots of good '80s R.R. shows
Box?
Cheers

No Sante Fe today....

....shame. I was planning on giving out hatch chilies for Halloween.

Anniversary show 10 /31/83 The last St. Stephen

41 years ago I up at the tiny Marin Veterans Auditorium for a rocking Halloween with the Good old Grateful Dead. They played St.Stephen for the last time. I saw them play it one other time at the Orpheum theatre on 7/13/76. My favorite St.Stephen 10/12/68 but lots of fantastic versions.

52..

Looking forward to the new pick - never met a show with a "Dew" i didnt like.. so far I have liked/loved a Daves, save one; number 48 wich I found was a below standard show. My hope for 2026 ( I know..) is that Lemieux will expand the series to 5 yearly releases - nr. 5 beeing a New Yearsshow in December.. BW from Copenhagen - and I hope everyone will vote and be safe next week..

Arrived

#3954 has just been posted through my door. That’s only 12 days since the initial shipping notice and 9 since the release date. Congratulations to EVRI on getting it to me so quickly.
I hope for a large turnout in your upcoming elections and that whatever the result it will be accepted as a fair outcome. I, obviously, have a preferred candidate but I wouldn’t want to be accused of trying to influence the election!

RIP our sweetest friend. Everyone goes away, in the end.

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