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    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

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    Rise and shine lil Pedro
    Bfast in bed wiff the GD

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    Passed in Tacoma at 81

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    Disc 4 of "Unlabled 1968 GD"

    Saint Stephen >
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    Lovelight

    The SS is a very early version

    Edit
    Theres info about this on e t r e e

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    ...a small bit of squawking or is it squonking...someone recently mentioned Ornette Coleman with the Boys in 1993...anyway PHILA 1973 SEPT 21 Set 2 should fill the jones with guests Martin Fiero & Joe Ellis

    Peace for All!
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    Lyceum Theatre

    Peace

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    7 19 90

    I was listening to 7 18 90 earlier today and it just felt "meh".

    7 19 90 already has a springy bouncy energy 2nd song in.

    Very interesting

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    Sounds good.

    The show could be cleaned up and included in next year’s 30TATS -The Sequel Box.

    Yes Crow, I enjoyed 7-25-74.
    And I just finished playing 5-14-74 in the car (took a few days). Definitely a step up from 5-12-74.

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    9/14/74 plus

    Plus omg, 9/11/74. Had not HEARD this one complete before, Doah!
    Felt like it was the most consistent overall of the three nights? and has another sweet 74 PITB, but the P&N through Rat sequence…OMG, tiss the shite mate!
    If you haven’t heard, and like big weirdness ala 72/73, you MUST check out at least from PITB onward…through the fog!

    7/25/74. OBEAH, ole Bluecrow always be giving us the goodness!
    And 5/14, one of my favs of the year, 74 DS, come on…scary moons 😳

    BC, Betting you’ve heard about 51, so other than that, I’d say you missed nothing ; )
    I too, waiting impatiently for 7/25….hear sound of foot tapping…

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...with some unbelievable dry sunny weather
(82 degrees in these parts) in the mid-atlantic for late october,
I'm putting on my boogin' shoes for
oakland coliseum
june 8th 1974

can hardly wait to get started...

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I was there, I recognized the t-shirt Jerry is wearing :-)

Second set opened with a great Cold Rain & Snow intro that stretch until the first raindrops started down, then, "I married me a wife.....", and the cold rain poured down!

And poor Dennis in only a t-shirt!

Dark Star just started.

12-18,19-73, and the other chop jobs from that Fall tour (11-20, 11-30, 12-4, 12-6) should be Plangentized/Normanized, Boxed up, and released.

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...to build upon #52 and continue the 80's theme 'til delivery day
(order confirmation "check!")

turn-on, tune-in, and veg out (that was the 80's, right?)

october 22 1983 carrier dome syracuse ny

jerry noodles set 2 opener
crazy->tease->fingers->china cat

PEACE for ALL!
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After 2 1700 mile RTs and all that road noise and not much sleep, I’m basking in glorious quiet!
Did catch a nice 12/30/81 I don’t believe I’ve heard before, on the XM around 2AM Wednesday!

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But in 12 hours I'll be listening to, and seeing wit mine own eyes, Los Lobos, for the umpteenth time, at the beautiful Lobero Theater. World Series game 1> Los Lobos.
This will be a fun evening.

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Edit: just heard Phil passed : (
May the four winds blow him safely home!
Thanks for everything! So much, I can’t even begin to comprehend…

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Phil’s birthday.

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After a emotional Phil centric playlist we also fired up 3/15/90!
Man that sounds good!
And popped a Fremont Dark Star Stout in his honor, SALUTE!

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I was always a Phil guy. Jerry and Phil, no offense to the others. After Jerry passed, I was on the Phil side as close as I could get.

I'm sad beyond description. Phil made a difference. With all the trouble in the world, when I think of bombs, they are always Phil Bombs.

Again, sad beyond what words can describe. May the four winds blow you safely home Mr. Lesh.
There's a weird emptiness here tonight. A well-earned void.

Edit: I changed my mind and went for Augusta 84. Phil denotes and destroys the final jam in Morning Dew. The Phil and Jerry combo was just exactly perfect. I'll do 3/15/90 tomorrow.

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In a conversation with CNN in 2006, Lesh reflected on the feeling of performing with his bandmates.

“It’s paradise. At that moment, I’m not really there. And no one is. We are the music, and our personalities as such really cease to exist at all. We’ve been subsumed into the greater personality of the group mind, that’s what’s been created. That’s what’s created when we are creatively improvising, and the flow is really happening. When we are actually channeling, we are opening that pipeline to another reality that speaks to us. And we are acting as transformers, and we have to step that down into musical thought. But this is not something you can do consciously, learn how to do or be taught. It’s just something that happens to you when the stars are aligned properly and when your individual consciousness is open enough.”

"November and more, as I wait for the score,
They're telling me forgiveness is the key to every door.
A slow winter day a night like forever,
Sink like a stone, float like a feather.
Lilac rain, unbroken chain, Song of the sawhet owl.

Out on the mountain, it'll drive you insane, Listening to the winds howl
Unbroken chain of sorrow and pearls, Unbroken chain of shy and sea.
Unbroken chain of the western wind, Unbroken chain of you and me."
- Robert Peterson

"You who choose to lead must follow
But if you fall you fall alone
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home"
- Robert Hunter

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...to the Lesh family
and to the extended family members,
and to the GD community at large.

will begin a tribute to Phil today with
3/19/90 box of rain
Terrapin Station: passenger
3/15/90 set 2
10/12/07 Camden NJ
12/03/05 Buffalo
Fallout From The Phil Zone

RIP Phil

such a long, long time to be gone
and a short time to be there

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I was at the Los Lobos show last night.
When the guys took the stage, David Hidalgo
stepped up to the mike and said:
"This is for Phil Lesh."
They proceeded to open with "West L.A. Fadeaway."

There were quite a few heads in the audience, and we got
Evangeline, Not Fade Away, Bertha, La Bamba>Good Lovin>La Bamba
plus ALL the great tunes Los Lobos is known for. Bitter sweet. What a day it was.

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When my wife texted me the news I listened first to Unbroken Chain and then Box of Rain

Verklempt? Oh yes.

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2FTV CD 2, that New tator jam is prime Philski!
11/7/85: Let It Grow>Space>Gimme Sum
6/30/85 Shakedown
Live Dead
12/6/73 RT bonus disc
Warlocks Pedromix; H/S/F, Attics, Dark Star>space>Death Don’t>Mr F. Gimme Sum>Dew. Bid U
5/11/72 discs 3&4
11/5/77 set 2
BOR 3/20/86
VIola 5/2/70
11/8/69
Ramble On 6/22/83
Jack Straw 8/27/83 (Aud!)
7/9/95 Unbroken, BOR
2/10/01 Phil & Phreinds
Rock & Roll Blues P&F

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From Two From The Vault is one of my all-time GD moments. It has that soothing melody that feels so good after a "My nerves are shot, and I can't take it anymore" section of music like That's It for the Other One. Exactly perfect.

I wish they would have found a way to keep it in their repertoire a little longer. On the sunny side, I was able to see them perform it both with Phil's band and Furthur in the post Jerry years.

One of those great, quirky songs. Thanks Phil, you are missed.

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Gary Lambert played That's It for the Other One as an homage to Phil from this show today on Sat Radio. I caught it on a mini road trip. On the way home they not so coincidentally played New Potato Caboose from the same show about two hours later.

Phil was hot that night. Perhaps the most special show in Boxzilla, with many contenders.

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Dark Star 4/8/71

Hard to Handle 4/29/71

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Nice cover of’Brokedown Palace’ by Gillian Welch & David Rawlings on Utube.

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Subtitled "the pagan sound of British and Irish Folk 1966-1975" this is another excellent compilation released by Grapefruit a few years ago. Typically 3 cd sets from the above timespan, there are now quite few excellent compilations released on this label. This particular one follows on from one called "Dust on the Nettles" - also recommended, that came out a few years before this one.

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Earlier LP titled C.C.B.B. - A Lot of Bottle
(EMI import from England)
Later just C.B.B. - Sense of Direction
Bought used in the '70s for $2.50 and $2.75.
A little nostalgia to start the day.
Cheers
Hey Daverock - I never realized these guys are British, lol!

1stshow - they are one of those bands I've heard of, but never actually heard. I always imagined them to be in the same bag as another band I never heard - Chicken Shack. Of course, not having heard either, it's impossible to tell.

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Listening to Postcards of the Hanging & comparing it with Dylan & the Dead.
The Dead recording is really crisp while the Dylan one sounds very muddy, & the lyrics of I Want You are almost impossible to make out.

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Aagh. Thats what they sing at the end of the 1973 Wickerman.

Not a happy moment

That movie haunted me for weeks afterward

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Dark Star on the drive to work today

Awesome

From Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead

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...house of blues
december 10 2005 set 2
P & F

shakedown>jam>new speedway>jam>candyman>cryptical>
TOO>jam>feedback*>caution*>feedback*>fire>gimme shelter>
Donor Rap > Band Intros
us blues>brokedown

* with BIG BROWN

Friends are:
chris robertson / larry campbell / john molo / mookie siegel / barry sless

PEACE for ALL!
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PS: 52 is in the house

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do a boob tube search of - My new musical invention - The ResoLute! Patent Pending Synth Lute

My kid sent me this. I know we have a goodly number of pickers out there.

Thought this might interest you.

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Spinning now.
Sounds good.

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and then 10/27/84, both nice!

Glad to hear Ckid!

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december 16th 1992 set 2
oakland coliseum arena

...they're ON and
it's a beautiful thing!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

PS - 10/18/84 thanks for the nudge, I remember the drive north on the NJTPK
with Chumpweed [he passed out in the park before the start of City Island
(thnx DL for this week's Taper's Section) in downtown Harrisburg,
and he was hell-bent on staying in control for the Meadowlands Arena],
and I was very happy that I didn't write the boys off
after the 10/6 Richmond show as two friends had done;
yet for some reason the UJB clearly sticks out...
...maybe, yes, ah now I know, it was my 1st live ujb.

I haven't heard this show since attending it,
but will attempt to stream it in the very near future...thnx Oro

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Going to make a great release someday!

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Finally getting to this one while 52 waits in the mailbox. Will Duke be the best of the box? I'm guessing Dave thought so or it wouldn't be the break-out single show release. Rare day when I should be able to hear a whole show in one sitting. Thanks Honey!
Cheers

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Chumpweed lol, now thhhaaatt is a moniker!
Dug 10/18: Nice Stranger Candyman, Big RR, Dancin, etc, but the Playin sandwich was the shizzle. Pretty good tour, perhaps not so much of the go go juice as earlier in the year? Forgot how good 10/20 second set was…

1stshow: I thought Duke was good, but not top dog…but from the 11th onward their all so good it’s hard to choose! Enjoy!

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As good a night as any for mentioning the above British label. I notice they have started selling cassettes now as well. Very groovy.

I dipped into the Box yesterday from where I left off - which was 4/11. As Oro said - top drawer. That's a great Fire-Scarlett and the first set is good. The only downside was neither the 1st or the 3rd cd would play on my hi fi. They both played on my portable one though, so I am hoping now I have broken then in they will play on the main one.

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What a great 2nd set!

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...phil & friends
november 23 2005

st.stephen>eyes>ujb>gdtrfb
donor rap>band intros
encore: dark star

PEACE for ALL!
war is not the answer

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Should be an interesting year without the Archive being available. I don't even use it most of the time unless I'm really stuck for an answer. It just takes too long to validate my guesses. I'm just in it for fun first thing in the morning. Good luck to all. I've been trying to win a calendar for many years now.
Cheers

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Archive was up and running for a while this morning and I used it confirm my 30 Days entry. Down again now as to show playback. In deep deep trouble if its not there as resource haha.

Listening now to Cold Rain and Snow Red Rocks 7/7/78 (July '78 Box)

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11/3/84 now

Heard 11/2 before but forgot how fun it was.
11/3 is new, and starting out hot!

Howdy BC!
Yep, I’ve been hitting this 84 via relisten so archive is up!
Thank goodness lol

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Right now you can still play shows on Archive using Webamp (click button top of page).

Back at ya Oro!

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A relatively new Charlie Miller up at the Archive. Solid Phil mix.