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  • 1stshow70878
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    Thx Oro

    So 15 ips or 30 ips would have been impractical for shows I imagine. Expense, changing reels too often, and as these were for listening by the band not studio use, etc. But what about them using noise reduction? I'm guessing no Dolby.
    As an aside, I seldom have my Dolby on when listening to cassettes even though most were recorded with it. Even factory tapes with Dolby seem less muffled without it and I'm not listening at thunderous levels (most of the time) where hiss is an issue.
    Skylabs, a top notch mid-western audio repairer, no longer works on certain categories of equipment: Consoles, quad receivers, linear tracking turntables, automatic turntables, and reel to reels. Just not worth it from a cost perspective for what those machines sell for vs. repair costs. There are still plenty of specialists who will and R-to-Rs are available restored at very reasonable prices but good luck finding pre-recorded tapes (old or new). Nobody makes them anymore. I was never tempted but my cassette guy sells tons of R-to-Rs for like $200-$300 fully restored, but they are more run of the mill Sony and not high end. And they sell fast!
    Thanks again and cheers bro

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    First half of GDM soundtrack

    Ist show. The more surface area (wider the tape), and/or the faster the recording speed, the higher the resolution. And yes R2R can most certainly sound best. (Like anything though, if done well)
    The problem is a good one is very expensive, they’re as hard to keep maintained etc as a TT, and good linage quality tapes are rare and expensive, oh, and more a pain to “flip” than even a record…but they can sound amazing!

    Remember, many CDs AND most vinyl are sourced from (hopefully) master R2R tapes! A purist with the gear and ears might argue that direct to (vinyl) disc recording is the ultimate…but good luck lol
    One of the main reasons digital still gets such a bad rap is twofold
    1- the conversion used originally, and lack of attention to disparity’s between different DACs in the chain. Conversion has come a loonnggg way baby! AND…
    2- a significant number of the CDs first produced to meet the huge demand were not sourced from the master tapes, and lineage and source quality were often a joke! Caveat emptor: not all CDs are created alike!…or Blu-ray’s, or DVDs, or Vinyl etc Like drugs boys and girls, know your sources!

  • 1stshow70878
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    5th show in the box.
    OK, now were getting there.
    Great 1st set.
    2nd set list looks good too.
    Moving right along...
    Cheers

    Random ?s for the tapers and the knowledgeable. Were these original tapes running at 7.5 ips on reel to reels and were they done with any Dolby or whatever? And do you audience tapers use any noise reduction? Been talking to an analog guy who says with reel to reel running fast you get superior saturation and the best analog sound of all, which to his ear beats CDs and even vinyl, and Dolby is unnecessary for good reel to reel recordings.

  • uncle_tripel
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    climb on the fence, you idiot"

    august 6th 1974

    now that's much better, the sound is less polished or over-dubbed...or whatever...

    support your local library,
    my better half's employer also

    Peace for All!
    uncle_tripel

    PS - Hey Bobby, party like it's 1984, Happy B-day!

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    This is a little niche for this forum since I’m streaming it on BBC iplayer so it’s probably only accessible in the UK,
    John Martyn - Live at Reading University 1978
    This is an episode of ‘Rock Goes to College’. We saw him several times 78 -79 and his solo concerts were always excellent. It’s available for the next 27 days and is highly recommended. For those who can’t access it I recommend his album ‘One World’ which was his current album when this concert was recorded.
    Edit: To be honest I’d recommend any of his albums really

  • Oroborous
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    Slumming it ; )

    With Dave’s 17, since the rude abrupt halt to my research via the archive being down : (
    Ah well, I’ll just have to suffer lol

    Hope their highly trained crack equipment crew gets it just exactly perfect sooner than later 🤞Was gonna do the big five O anniversary treatment of Rocktober 74, complete in order as I don’t think I’ve done so? Sigh…bastards!

    Kudos to Uncle T supporting the local Library! (TOO is a librarian ; )
    If you don’t use em, ya lose em!
    And remember, they killed Marion ; )

  • uncle_tripel
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    yeah, so ...

    ...this weekend I visited our local library, been awhile...
    took home the 5 CD GOGD Movie Soundtrack box...
    today's listening party:

    oct 20 1974 set 2

    maybe, I'll need to listen to this box abit more, or maybe not...?
    finding the mix is almost like, well, you know, too studioish...

    ... DL announcement later this week, hey now, how about it?

    make LOVE, not WAR!!!

    uncle_tripel

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    10 9 89

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Been listening to some early 80’s shows Dave has sent our way previously as I await the upcoming announcement.

    Last 5

    10-12-84 playing now
    9-20,21-82 MSG Box
    4-26-83 DaP39
    9-2-83 DaP27

  • uncle_tripel
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    rupp...

    ...unfortunately found out that my disc is corrupt after Stella,
    so no truckin' > pitb or encores; whatcha gonna do?
    anyways...

    today, I'm gonna extend the friends of the devils theme to

    september 16 1978 set 2
    ollin arrageed (hamza el din)

    everyone enjoy your weekend!
    make LOVE, not WAR!!!

    uncle_tripel

    PS - new upcoming box set...maybe...?....in 2026...
    May 1978...that would be something

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...tribute to Mr. Lesh today,

march 19 1995 spectrum

well, because I made it to the 2 nights before
and then sold my tickets for 3/19
to take my lady to sunnier & warmer climes...
...I knew right away she was not like other girls...
for a much needed break from work

so imagine my horror upon
returning 6 days later...
...what the...UNBROKEN CHAIN!

well, after 36 yrs of life together
she is still the best in my life...

....once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right...

PEACE!
One World in Harmony...

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Starting with 11/1
Then did 11/7
And now 11/2
Later, 11/8 to compete with the horrible noise…

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Why Not!

and it will begin with

Eric Burdon "The Masters"
The House Of The Rising Sun
I'm Crying
Boom Boom
Gonna Send You Back To Walker
Bring It On Home To Me
We Gotta Get Out Of This Place
It's My Life
Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Help Me Girl
Don't Bring Me Down
See See Rider
Inside Looking Out
San Francisco Nights
When I Was Young
Monterrey ("the GD, blew evrybody's mind")
Anything
White Houses
Spill The Wine
The Night

these songs should evoke many different feelings for ALL people today

Make LOVE not war!
PEACE!

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meh?
11/21/69
That’s better…High Time really resonated today.
Next up: 12/4/69.
Cool Dark Star
And finally today: 12/5/69

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Then 12/10/69
Followed by 12/13 short and sweet, and
then 12/19, real treat!

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&12/69 mas Fina!
Received these in a big batch of stuff from our good friend here a couple years ago, but as is often the case with new big batches, these kinda have been neglected!

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That's a great album alright. The other Dead I played over the last day or so was the first show from the Winterland 1973 box - 11/9/73. A great show - every musician on top form and working together. And the next 2 shows in the box are even better.

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...with the hidden track on diP #13, been awhile>>>
scarlet > fire from 11/1/79

then onto 5/6/81 set 2 diP #13

sub pre-order purchased last PM,
-10%'er :)
now, it's hurry-up wait time lol
convinced myself that the
30 / 60 anniversaries will impact
the 4 installments choices
if TPTB don't make it happen,
then oh well,
it'll be the last sub

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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12/20, 21, and 23/69…yowsa!

Now: Gary Burton Duet, then after, Like Minds…

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Good call DaveRock.

Imagine the reels of those shows being Plangentized/Normanized, and pressed onto vinyl.

💀🎶🤤😵‍💫🫠

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Cnkd - I'd buy that box in a shot. It would be great if they did reissue it in that way. If they are reissuing boxes on vinyl, following on from the Fillmore West 1969 shows and those from May 5th-9th 1977, this would be an ideal choice.

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On sirius this morning while I was driving up the coast to get bbq. I was in tears.

Alligator>Cryptical>The Other One>Cryptical> New Potato>Born Cross Eyed>Spanish Jam>Dark Star>China Cat>The Eleven>Caution.

Holy Effing Shite!

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Hit big chunk of 11/9/73 via yer synaptical jumpstart.
Now onto 11/9/79 II
to be followed by 11/8/85, then prolly some mellow jazz…maybe Pat M?
Bit of a personal theme today…

Howdy Brownie! Yass, need to go deep on the primal sooner than later!

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...road feeling...

GOOD with september 13 1993 set 2

just a wonderful evening in the ol' Spectrum
with the GOGD!

One World in Harmony
Peace for All!

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Robert Plant - Band of Joy
Pat Metheny - Offramp
Miles Davis - E.S.P., and Mikes in the Sky
Pat Metheny Charlie Haden - Missouri Sky

and other goodness from the collection:
Robert Plant - Lullaby…and the Ceaseless Roar
Wes Montgomery- Finest Hour
Wynton Marsalis - Standard Time

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...oct 18 1984 at the meadowlands arena

identifier #16171 on the archive
new chas miller
uploaded earlier this year :)

sweet!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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Miles - Mikes in the Sky,,,, must be a heavenly recording :-)

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BigBrownie, thanks for reminding me of 1.22.68, long time favorite show and primal. Looking forward to the new Miles boot. Oro, your mention of Pat M took me down a rabbit hole, seen him a bunch, all the way back to days with Lyle. Peak experience minimal but incredible, had a back stage pass after his show at the Kennedy Center in DC the night he was announced as NEA Jazzmaster. The band was exhausted from touring and headed off on an overnight bus to their next gig. New interview just posted, Rick Beato with Mike Stern, Mike had Pat as a teacher at Berklee, played with Miles, introduced by Billy Cobham. Beato is a superb interviewer, gets musicians talking, also check out his interview with Pat.

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Some of hottest GD I have ever heard

WOW

Were you lucky enough to get the Road Trips copy of 5/26/93 back when released?

I missed buying it but my oft referred to friend Craig gave me a copy

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I have all the road trips and bonus discs, I just did not recognize the date. I will revisit this though, it might have been 10 or15 years since I listened to it last. So a great late era PITB. I'm still engaged and will give it a spin.

If I did not have it already, based on your comment I would have hunted it down.

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...gotten past all
of the jabberwocky,
and it's time to get back to
why we are here

Feb 18th 1971 @ the Capitol in Port Chester NY

as I don't have the 50th Anniv
of american beauty, it's the archive
for me today
identifier #157425

smokin'!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

PS: 12/16/92 - - - > thank you mr. latvala for #27!!!

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10/15/77

Hot 'lil show

Stella Blue is tasty, despite some annoying buzzing from one of the guitars

Stella your face

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...the 70's, but different era

november 9 1979 set 2
at the aud in buffalo

saw a hockey game at that brokedown palace
sabres vs flyers game - back in 1986
even remember hitting Garcia's Irish Pub
before the game
for a few cold ones and wings

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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Spicy encore

GBtGD

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Since I must push through a repetive set of tasks at work this morning, I needed something primal to take my mind off it, so 3/1/69 seemed called for. This show continues to be my go-to from the FW 69 box. I believe that's because I had this show on tape back in the late 80s and so it's simply burned into my brain. I do a lot of my listening in the car, and I burn CD-R copies for the purpose (so that the originals stay safe back at home). However, this morning I've found that my 3/1 CD-R has sustained some damage that affects The Eleven (aaaah noooo) so I'm going to use this opportunity to just chuck it into the trash and burn 2/28 instead in an attempt to try to get out of this 3/1 rut.

And I mean it's a deep rut - I've had the box set for years but have literally never played 2/27. The shows from 2/28 and 3/2 also get criminally overlooked... bad Obeah, baaad

Meanwhile, this weekend I got stuck into 3/17/68. Ferocious!

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4-15-78 (Edit: the Let It Grow in this is fiery!)
Staying in sequence while trying to finish the Box. One more in the Devil box then I'm going to do DaP 15 from 4-22-78 to round out my April '78 tour. Not full Oro level investigation (love those, keep them coming Pedro) but I'm kinda slow. Then I may get to the Santa Fe release. Ah, the bounty of a cornucopia of fall riches!
Cheers

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No PF couldn’t forget the last one lol, even though I liked the 30 better…

All good things in all good time 1stshow…

Sabs Flyers BITD nice…saw Dave Mason at Garcias on a date with the one that got away and four of her fun girl friends!

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Great stuff

Dark Star is cut though

C'est la vie

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Man, you should give 2/27/69 a chance, I doubt it will disappoint. I know that the Dark Star is on Live Dead, so you have probably heard it a few or more times already, but it really adds to get the transition out of Mountains of the Moon into the Dark Star. My car has a radio with a hard drive, and that show is burned onto it, so I end up listening to it quite a bit. That Good Morning Little School Girl from 2/27/69 just cooks in all the right ways too, probably my favorite version. The Doin' That Rag that follows is also fantastic, I really dig it, I suspect you might as well. Really just an excellent show.

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2001 A Space Odyssey on visual

Cool

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A classic, 10 out of 10.

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...december 29 1977 @ Winterland

hell yes, all day long!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

Oro - Dave Mason one hard working rock'n roller; got to see him 2x in 1980 (march/august)