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October 22, 2024 - 6:23am

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Dennis

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Uncle Trip and 7/4/86

I was there, I recognized the t-shirt Jerry is wearing :-)

Second set opened with a great Cold Rain & Snow intro that stretch until the first raindrops started down, then, "I married me a wife.....", and the cold rain poured down!

And poor Dennis in only a t-shirt!
October 22, 2024 - 4:38am

#142

uncle_tripel

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October 2, 2023

a day on the green...

...with some unbelievable dry sunny weather
(82 degrees in these parts) in the mid-atlantic for late october,
I'm putting on my boogin' shoes for
oakland coliseum
june 8th 1974

can hardly wait to get started...

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel
October 21, 2024 - 8:51am

#143

Oroborous

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June 19, 2007

The sound

Of thick air...
October 21, 2024 - 8:51am

#144

Oroborous

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June 19, 2007

The sound

Of thick air...
October 21, 2024 - 7:06am

#145

uncle_tripel

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October 2, 2023

always...

...avoided the NR on recording
and found very early the highs just got too muted for my ear,

returning to some more 1978 this week:
june 4th 1978
at Campus Stadium, UCSB in Santa Barbara, Ca

some more friends of the devils? lol...
...= the "on stage" harley davidson acceleration into--->NFA

make LOVE, not war!

PEACE!
uncle_tripel

PS: new avatar = mickey & jerry on 7/4/86 @ Rich Stadium
October 17, 2024 - 7:34pm

#146

JimInMD

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June 27, 2011

Noise Reduction and...

I used Dolby for a brief blink of an eye when I first started copying tapes. Being young and naive, I thought who wants tape noise to come through on the recording, duh.. no brainer, I flipped the Dolby switch on my Nak and hit record. I just want to hear the music, no hiss.

Very quickly reality set in. Was it Dolby A or Dolby B? Was the source tape recording using Dolby, if so, if you hit Dolby wouldn't it further compress the recording and further alter the sound, you can't play back using Dolby Squared, right? And what do you do in the car, in the boom box (yes.. we were just a few years out of 8 tracks when I started getting tapes). And who really flips or unflips the Dolby switch anyway based on how you think the recording was made. After all, were all these tapes properly notated every step of the way.

So I quickly gave up on noise reduction, I had a good enough tape deck that I shouldn't be so worried about tape noise. I quit Dolby and never looked back (and never worried about pressing the Dolby button again).

Just spit balling here, but my prejudices sometimes come to the surface when I hear a Dicks or Daves or Road Trips that sounds a bit muffled and I wonder if the particular Reel or Cassette or Betamax or whatever might have had a Dolby snafu baked in. To be clear, I have no proof this has ever occurred, I just wonder sometimes.

I should emphasize Jeffrey Norman / David Glasser, etc. have gotten better at their jobs. So if there is any compression or noise reduction used anywhere along the way, they better at making this music sound as good as it possibly can, regardless of the sordid history of the source tapes. Thank you GD, Mockingbird Studios, the good folks and Plangent Processing and all the others that get this music to my front porch. Oh, and thank you tapers too!
October 17, 2024 - 3:54pm

#147

Oroborous

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Ooops, forgot

I can’t say for sure off hand about everyone who recorded Dead and NR, but Betty was known for not using it, and if things are done right, no need.
Nothing comes for free, so every time you do something, it will effect other things, sometimes negatively…a cost benefit trade off…perhaps just like BITD with high gen cassettes? To Dolby or not to Dolby, that is the question lol
I always have tried not to do any permanent adjustments/fixes, preferring to try and fix some other way, eq etc, but nothing permanent that you can’t fix yer fix!

Imho NR etc becomes more of a band aid for when things weren’t able to be right, or to help mask issues beyond repair, i.e., the ravages of time.
Don’t think I’ve ever used any on a master recording?

Onto rest of GDM soundtrack this afternoon…
October 17, 2024 - 1:16pm

#148

1stshow70878

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September 11, 2014

Thx Oro

So 15 ips or 30 ips would have been impractical for shows I imagine. Expense, changing reels too often, and as these were for listening by the band not studio use, etc. But what about them using noise reduction? I'm guessing no Dolby.
As an aside, I seldom have my Dolby on when listening to cassettes even though most were recorded with it. Even factory tapes with Dolby seem less muffled without it and I'm not listening at thunderous levels (most of the time) where hiss is an issue.
Skylabs, a top notch mid-western audio repairer, no longer works on certain categories of equipment: Consoles, quad receivers, linear tracking turntables, automatic turntables, and reel to reels. Just not worth it from a cost perspective for what those machines sell for vs. repair costs. There are still plenty of specialists who will and R-to-Rs are available restored at very reasonable prices but good luck finding pre-recorded tapes (old or new). Nobody makes them anymore. I was never tempted but my cassette guy sells tons of R-to-Rs for like $200-$300 fully restored, but they are more run of the mill Sony and not high end. And they sell fast!
Thanks again and cheers bro
October 17, 2024 - 12:37pm

#149

Oroborous

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First half of GDM soundtrack

Ist show. The more surface area (wider the tape), and/or the faster the recording speed, the higher the resolution. And yes R2R can most certainly sound best. (Like anything though, if done well)
The problem is a good one is very expensive, they’re as hard to keep maintained etc as a TT, and good linage quality tapes are rare and expensive, oh, and more a pain to “flip” than even a record…but they can sound amazing!

Remember, many CDs AND most vinyl are sourced from (hopefully) master R2R tapes! A purist with the gear and ears might argue that direct to (vinyl) disc recording is the ultimate…but good luck lol
One of the main reasons digital still gets such a bad rap is twofold
1- the conversion used originally, and lack of attention to disparity’s between different DACs in the chain. Conversion has come a loonnggg way baby! AND…
2- a significant number of the CDs first produced to meet the huge demand were not sourced from the master tapes, and lineage and source quality were often a joke! Caveat emptor: not all CDs are created alike!…or Blu-ray’s, or DVDs, or Vinyl etc Like drugs boys and girls, know your sources!
October 17, 2024 - 12:06pm

#150

1stshow70878

Joined:
September 11, 2014

4-11-78

5th show in the box.
OK, now were getting there.
Great 1st set.
2nd set list looks good too.
Moving right along...
Cheers

Random ?s for the tapers and the knowledgeable. Were these original tapes running at 7.5 ips on reel to reels and were they done with any Dolby or whatever? And do you audience tapers use any noise reduction? Been talking to an analog guy who says with reel to reel running fast you get superior saturation and the best analog sound of all, which to his ear beats CDs and even vinyl, and Dolby is unnecessary for good reel to reel recordings.

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New year, new update. Tell us of your musical adventures in real time!

9/11/83

Again ; )

Perhaps a little 10/14/83 later…and it was Mas Fina!

finishing up...

...tribute to Mr. Lesh today,

march 19 1995 spectrum

well, because I made it to the 2 nights before
and then sold my tickets for 3/19
to take my lady to sunnier & warmer climes...
...I knew right away she was not like other girls...
for a much needed break from work

so imagine my horror upon
returning 6 days later...
...what the...UNBROKEN CHAIN!

well, after 36 yrs of life together
she is still the best in my life...

....once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right...

PEACE!
One World in Harmony...

Back to finish up 69!

Starting with 11/1
Then did 11/7
And now 11/2
Later, 11/8 to compete with the horrible noise…

2-28-69 vinyl

Subwoofer turned up for some extra Phil.

Now onto 10-18-72% vinyl

Philo Stomp rockin’ the subwoofer.

10 20 90

Very pleasant 1st set

break day?

Why Not!

and it will begin with

Eric Burdon "The Masters"
The House Of The Rising Sun
I'm Crying
Boom Boom
Gonna Send You Back To Walker
Bring It On Home To Me
We Gotta Get Out Of This Place
It's My Life
Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood
Help Me Girl
Don't Bring Me Down
See See Rider
Inside Looking Out
San Francisco Nights
When I Was Young
Monterrey ("the GD, blew evrybody's mind")
Anything
White Houses
Spill The Wine
The Night

these songs should evoke many different feelings for ALL people today

Make LOVE not war!
PEACE!

uncle_tripel

11/15/69

meh?
11/21/69
That’s better…High Time really resonated today.
Next up: 12/4/69.
Cool Dark Star
And finally today: 12/5/69

12/7/69

Then 12/10/69
Followed by 12/13 short and sweet, and
then 12/19, real treat!

10-31-71% vinyl

Playing now.

12/11

&12/69 mas Fina!
Received these in a big batch of stuff from our good friend here a couple years ago, but as is often the case with new big batches, these kinda have been neglected!

10/31/71

That's a great album alright. The other Dead I played over the last day or so was the first show from the Winterland 1973 box - 11/9/73. A great show - every musician on top form and working together. And the next 2 shows in the box are even better.

starting ...

...with the hidden track on diP #13, been awhile>>>
scarlet > fire from 11/1/79

then onto 5/6/81 set 2 diP #13

sub pre-order purchased last PM,
-10%'er :)
now, it's hurry-up wait time lol
convinced myself that the
30 / 60 anniversaries will impact
the 4 installments choices
if TPTB don't make it happen,
then oh well,
it'll be the last sub

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

Last night

12/20, 21, and 23/69…yowsa!

Now: Gary Burton Duet, then after, Like Minds…

11-9-73 it is

Good call DaveRock.

Imagine the reels of those shows being Plangentized/Normanized, and pressed onto vinyl.

💀🎶🤤😵‍💫🫠

Winterland 1973

Cnkd - I'd buy that box in a shot. It would be great if they did reissue it in that way. If they are reissuing boxes on vinyl, following on from the Fillmore West 1969 shows and those from May 5th-9th 1977, this would be an ideal choice.

1-22-68 Seattle

On sirius this morning while I was driving up the coast to get bbq. I was in tears.

Alligator>Cryptical>The Other One>Cryptical> New Potato>Born Cross Eyed>Spanish Jam>Dark Star>China Cat>The Eleven>Caution.

Holy Effing Shite!

Good idea Daverock!

Hit big chunk of 11/9/73 via yer synaptical jumpstart.
Now onto 11/9/79 II
to be followed by 11/8/85, then prolly some mellow jazz…maybe Pat M?
Bit of a personal theme today…

Howdy Brownie! Yass, need to go deep on the primal sooner than later!

goin' down the...

...road feeling...

GOOD with september 13 1993 set 2

just a wonderful evening in the ol' Spectrum
with the GOGD!

One World in Harmony
Peace for All!

uncle_tripel

New Tunes!

Robert Plant - Band of Joy
Pat Metheny - Offramp
Miles Davis - E.S.P., and Mikes in the Sky
Pat Metheny Charlie Haden - Missouri Sky

and other goodness from the collection:
Robert Plant - Lullaby…and the Ceaseless Roar
Wes Montgomery- Finest Hour
Wynton Marsalis - Standard Time

4 21 78

:)))

After 4 21 78 set one

JIimi Hendrix 4 cd set at Winterland

this one's a drummers choice...

...oct 18 1984 at the meadowlands arena

identifier #16171 on the archive
new chas miller
uploaded earlier this year :)

sweet!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

Oro & Miles

Miles - Mikes in the Sky,,,, must be a heavenly recording :-)

Miles, Mike and Pat

BigBrownie, thanks for reminding me of 1.22.68, long time favorite show and primal. Looking forward to the new Miles boot. Oro, your mention of Pat M took me down a rabbit hole, seen him a bunch, all the way back to days with Lyle. Peak experience minimal but incredible, had a back stage pass after his show at the Kennedy Center in DC the night he was announced as NEA Jazzmaster. The band was exhausted from touring and headed off on an overnight bus to their next gig. New interview just posted, Rick Beato with Mike Stern, Mike had Pat as a teacher at Berklee, played with Miles, introduced by Billy Cobham. Beato is a superb interviewer, gets musicians talking, also check out his interview with Pat.

4 21 78 disc 3 motivated me

to do some work around the house

Thank you GD

5 26 93 PITB

Some of hottest GD I have ever heard

WOW

Uncle Trippel and Proudfoot

You've got me pulling these shows down from the archive for (almost) immediate consumption.

Jiminmd

Were you lucky enough to get the Road Trips copy of 5/26/93 back when released?

I missed buying it but my oft referred to friend Craig gave me a copy

In major praise of 12 16 92

Excellent show

Oh.. then I have it

I have all the road trips and bonus discs, I just did not recognize the date. I will revisit this though, it might have been 10 or15 years since I listened to it last. So a great late era PITB. I'm still engaged and will give it a spin.

If I did not have it already, based on your comment I would have hunted it down.

hopefully...

...gotten past all
of the jabberwocky,
and it's time to get back to
why we are here

Feb 18th 1971 @ the Capitol in Port Chester NY

as I don't have the 50th Anniv
of american beauty, it's the archive
for me today
identifier #157425

smokin'!

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

PS: 12/16/92 - - - > thank you mr. latvala for #27!!!

Hopefully, last four from 69

Starting with 12/28/69

Continuing with 12/29

Finally, 12/30/69!

Dont forget 12/31/69

Fabulous stuff

Currently

Swans - Feel Good Now

Currently

10/15/77

Hot 'lil show

Stella Blue is tasty, despite some annoying buzzing from one of the guitars

Stella your face

Cap 71 I have

End of year, 69.. I have not listened to yet.

stuck in...

...the 70's, but different era

november 9 1979 set 2
at the aud in buffalo

saw a hockey game at that brokedown palace
sabres vs flyers game - back in 1986
even remember hitting Garcia's Irish Pub
before the game
for a few cold ones and wings

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

10 15 77

Spicy encore

GBtGD

primal Wed

Since I must push through a repetive set of tasks at work this morning, I needed something primal to take my mind off it, so 3/1/69 seemed called for. This show continues to be my go-to from the FW 69 box. I believe that's because I had this show on tape back in the late 80s and so it's simply burned into my brain. I do a lot of my listening in the car, and I burn CD-R copies for the purpose (so that the originals stay safe back at home). However, this morning I've found that my 3/1 CD-R has sustained some damage that affects The Eleven (aaaah noooo) so I'm going to use this opportunity to just chuck it into the trash and burn 2/28 instead in an attempt to try to get out of this 3/1 rut.

And I mean it's a deep rut - I've had the box set for years but have literally never played 2/27. The shows from 2/28 and 3/2 also get criminally overlooked... bad Obeah, baaad

Meanwhile, this weekend I got stuck into 3/17/68. Ferocious!

DaP 37

4-15-78 (Edit: the Let It Grow in this is fiery!)
Staying in sequence while trying to finish the Box. One more in the Devil box then I'm going to do DaP 15 from 4-22-78 to round out my April '78 tour. Not full Oro level investigation (love those, keep them coming Pedro) but I'm kinda slow. Then I may get to the Santa Fe release. Ah, the bounty of a cornucopia of fall riches!
Cheers

12/31/69

No PF couldn’t forget the last one lol, even though I liked the 30 better…

All good things in all good time 1stshow…

Sabs Flyers BITD nice…saw Dave Mason at Garcias on a date with the one that got away and four of her fun girl friends!

12 30 69

Great stuff

Dark Star is cut though

C'est la vie

Currently

10 16 77

Nice

Holy...

Man, you should give 2/27/69 a chance, I doubt it will disappoint. I know that the Dark Star is on Live Dead, so you have probably heard it a few or more times already, but it really adds to get the transition out of Mountains of the Moon into the Dark Star. My car has a radio with a hard drive, and that show is burned onto it, so I end up listening to it quite a bit. That Good Morning Little School Girl from 2/27/69 just cooks in all the right ways too, probably my favorite version. The Doin' That Rag that follows is also fantastic, I really dig it, I suspect you might as well. Really just an excellent show.

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

Oro - Dave Mason one hard working rock'n roller; got to see him 2x in 1980 (march/august)