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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    1s and 0s

    When the Sony 1610 system was used for cd pre-mastering we found that when there was higher error correction on the tape (Umatic) the sound deteriorated
    So you want your 1s and 0s as pristine as possible!
    It's only data after all

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    The West L.A. Fadeaway…

    …is so smoky and hazy and just slinks along.

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    Music transcends the work of the laborer....

    ....gives one a sense of hope. A sense of joy. A sense of serenity.
    Music will forever be precious to me. It's powerful stuff.
    This unfortunate timeline doesn't end tomorrow, so I'll double down on some Beastie Boys. Make sure to check your head.

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    Finally got my copy and took it out for a spin: #23854, highest number I think I've ever gotten. Which is good, ya know. It's not like vinyl. With CDs you want the highest number you can get. The discs sound better when those 0s and 1s are good and heated up after 20k-plus pressings. That's what I heard anyway.

    Can't add much to what's been said about this: a really, really good show for '83 in very good sound for the era. The first set is a little wayward, but still has a good energy. I always cringe a little when Bob doubles down on the cowboy songs and gives us Uncle and Mexicali in a row. And I still think that slide guitar is not something you want to try to learn on the gig, Bob.

    But the set closes with a ripping Might as Well, and the second set is amazeballs. Great Help/Slipknot/Franklin. And I really like it that Brent is mostly playing electric piano and organ here, rather than the more tinkly sounding keys he got into later. Very spontaneous sounding Wang Dang. And there's a Dew (relatively uptempo for a change, with some great organ from Brent)! And a bonus Cumberland.

    All in all, big ups to our man Dave. This is the kind of release that makes this series so interesting: a show I probably wouldn't have checked out, from an era I feel like I'm not super stoked on, but one that I thoroughly enjoyed. I'll play this one often, I'm sure.

    A welcome break from the anxiety I've been feeling about What Will Happen Tomorrow. One way or another, this darkness got to give. Hope so, anyway.

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    Love it

    First time I heard it was August 93
    Friend played it on the drive to JGB in Portland

    "I'm thankful for my country home
    It gives me peace of mind
    Somewhere I can walk alone
    And leave myself behind"

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    ....I eat. I breathe deep. And I spend money.
    I purchased two records today. Vampire Weekend - Contra & Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Ragged Glory.
    I've never owned a physical copy of RG until now.

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    Yes this is good, have to get used to the sound as it's not too warm, but gets the job done as I like to explore the miracle of any of these shows being recorded and then provided to the keen fan that has chosen to pick this up. Dig the roadrunner art, the race is on. Love West La, althea always is very under rated?? Digging this during commute in my car so I'm taking it slow but dig dig dig it!!

    Last five heehehehe always Dead recently FOTD box 78 and Jerry versions which included Garcialive vol 18 just an amazing show. All the Garcia/Saunders stuff is Gold.
    Haven't done Jeff Buckley's Grace in a while but was able to enjoy all of that.
    New Willie Nelson Last Leaf mostly covers and mostly hits the note, especially with recent passing of KK.
    Squeezed in some Pixie's this week too, gigantic...
    and I like Ray Lamontagne and new album long way home got a listen this week.
    plus all sorts, some Beastie Boys the insidefromwayout
    Lost highway soundtrack to has some good stuff including lou reed, I like. And the newish David Gilmour is worth a try, he should play guitar...

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    ....check them out if come near you.
    I shouldn't be this nervous about tomorrow, but here I am.

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    Gone are the days, y'all

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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Speaking of ChinaRider, why oh why did they not play this in 77 (except for 12/29) and 78? Throw a few of those in the Rhythm Devils box and it would be much more enjoyable. I have no doubt they would have produced some stellar versions. Confused why Bird Song was dropped during this time as well. I get that bands tire of playing certain tunes, but these two? A shame.

And can we please, oh please, drop the politics here? I don't post much, but still offer this humble plea.

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Posturing as "anti-establishment" while slavishly gobbling up and regurgitating establishment propaganda.

Railing against the "tycoons" while covering your eyes and pretending that the establishment media you're defending isn't owned by those tycoons.

Decrying "corporatism" while blindly accepting big pharma's mandates that you consume their experimental gene therapy masquerading as a "vaccine."

But anyone who questions the narrative fed to you by the tycoon-owned media and their corporate interests, is "brainwashed."

Oh, the irony.

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DAVE ROCK
Yes, I bought the Hawkwind box set. PXR5 was just the first LP to come to hand :))
I’ve just got the updated ‘Sideways through Time’ book as well, even though I have the original version. Now all I need is the time to read it.
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I don’t have access to an analytical balance since I retired but the first Miles cd weighs 15 +/- 0.5g the same as the first disc in DaP #52 so they probably aren’t heavier.

Given recent events, people need to vent and process.

This is not just another political issue.

Give people a week or two.

Scroll past the stuff you don't want to see.

And eventually listen to Europe 90 tour. Some excellent material.

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"We're guilty of the same offence
Talkin' a lot about less and less
And forgetting the love we bring"

This space is getting hot.
Let's talk about hockey, lol.
Cheers

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will be the right time to hear 9 11 83 in full

Sweet

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I tried to watch Kraken Golden Knights

I got motion sick from the camera going back and forth and then fell asleep

I am just not a hockey person.

But go Kraken

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I've been complaining to myself for years about that PF. There has to be a better way to deal with camera angles to make it more watchable. More cameras, wide angles, maybe the occasional shot from above looking straight down? And make the puck show up better, maybe one of those computer generated things to make it orange or something. If they can place imaginary billboards in the ice and on the boards then they should be able to do this. Go Avs!
Cheers
Edit: BC, Dave did it again! Check PMs.
And Vguy, how was King Giz?

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1-7 purdue AT 7-1 Ohio State

Who will win? Oh, please solve this mystery.

Sometimes a safety will pummel a receiver with a truncheon and an ax

"Incomplete pass"

Other times the same safety will blink after the snap

"Pass interference, first down."

WTF

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....my friends, these guys are the real deal. So are the fans. They cover much musical ground and different genres. And soooo many times when they were in the pocket and just shoving it in our faces. Very impressive. Simply outstanding show and vibe.
We were just above the pit and it was raging. Good shit. Murder Of The Universe!!
Was tempted to drive down to Phoenix this morning.
More positive vibes like this please and don't feed the trolls.

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....next summer, they are going orchestral with a different local symphony sitting in every stop. Wow. And a fest in Colorado.
Tix already on sale.

Colin - I have the original of that book too - I wondered if much been added in the updated version ?
I'm checking out Amazon daily at the moment to try and catch this new version of "Do Re Mi" when/if the price drops a bit. It worked for "In Search of Space" - for one day only it appeared at £40.00. Still a bit pricey...but it does sound better than ever.

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Anyone here good at stats and patterns care to explain this. Daverock?

Obama (1st Black President) = 69 million votes.

Obama (second term) = 66 million votes.

Hillary (1st female candidate) = 66 million votes.

Biden (from his basement) = 81 million votes!

Kamala (1st Black female candidate) = 68 million votes.

That Biden is pretty amazing, don't you think? More popular than Obama! Wow.

But election fraud doesn't exist because the TV news told us so, and they would never lie.

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So an instigator joins the community yesterday and decides to lecture/insult us, keep it Klassy. What are the words I'm looking for, oh, that's is

Will you shut up, man

Will you wake up, man!

You're being lied to on a massive scale by the powers that be.

Many years ago, when the Grateful Dead was a young band, the counter-culture questioned what the establishment was force-feeding us.

Now many just gobble it up and accuse anyone who questions the mainstream narrative as being an "instigator."

I'm so sorry that the things I speak of make you uncomfortable. That the facts and truths I post make you question if your manufactured reality is false (it is).

Once upon a time, we spoke about the power of the military-industrial complex and how they got us into wars for their own profit.

Now we have a President-elect who never got us into any wars, but the media-industrial complex is trying to convince people that this man is a danger to us.

He has said he is bringing into his administration another man who comes from a famous Democrat family (the most famous Democrat family, legendary in US history, in fact) and that this man, RFK Jr, (who's father and uncle were assassinated by that same military-industrial complex and the intelligence agencies that serve the same masters) will be in charge of many agendas, not least of which is making us healthy again by removing the poisonous chemicals the corporations have put in our foods.

Is that a scary thing? Has it occured to you that perhaps the big pharmaceutical companies who fund the media, and are funded by the same elites who conrol the media, might be leading you astray and programming you to hate the one who will hold them accountable, in order to protect themselves?

Wake up, man.

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Please block and remove Here Comes Sunshine trolling. I would do it myself except I have to drop off a dead bear after I shoot some bleach and my brain worm has been acting up.

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Are there any dead related threads on this site?

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"Whatever's going on in the rest of world, if it's wars or kidnappings or crimes, this is a peaceful Sunday night with the Grateful Dead." (2/24/74, Winterland)

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I tell ya, take some time to listen to Europe 90. 10/13 is a public rehearsal; things pick up steam after that. I am currently in 10 24 90

I would even say the tour is box worthy

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Metallica Master of Puppets
Metallica ...And Justice For All
Chicago (track) Lowdown
Chicago (track) Harry Truman
Motorhead (too many to choose from)

9/11/83
3/10/81

got the house to myself for a few days

:)))

Please keep my crazies safe, Universe

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I stopped coming to this site so much over the last few years, and pretty much stopped posting due to the constant stream of left-wing political talking points and the insistence that anyone voicing a contrary opinion be shouted down at once. After the 2016 election this site was overrun with folks pledging their fealty to the “resistance” and promising to resist Trump’s agenda. I don’t recall any big outcry that the site was no place for politics. Likewise, in 2020 when the world went mad, this site was no place to challenge the idea that rioting in the streets and burning down cities was not a constructive or appropriate response, but it was clear that the left and most of the folks here had found a case where political violence was not just acceptable, but almost required, and, again, there was no outcry that this site was an inappropriate forum for discussing it, only an outcry that anyone with a different view bend the knee and acknowledge that everything happening was justified and acceptable or STFU. So, I have to say I find it amusing to see someone come on and spout off political views not commonly expressed here and the response is that it must be trolling and that the admin should remove the posts. Censorship is the apparently the go to answer to speech you don’t like.

Were all of the references to orange man bad, project 2025, the insinuations that everyone on the right is a facist or nazi, and the other left-wing positions and views espoused on this site over the past few years and leading up to the 2024 election trolling? If seeing political posts expressing views contrary to your own make you uncomfortable, then maybe stop and think about the impact of the stream of left-wing political posts on this site over the last few years and their impact on any deadhead into the music, but not in agreement with your political views. I can say, not the most welcoming place unless you are a deadhead with the “correct” political viewpoint. I’m sure that most of you folks are really cool and would be fun to hang out with, and I’m also pretty sure that none of you would actually hang out with me because I would never pass your political litmus tests. I don’t know who Here Comes Sunshine is, but I don’t see any problem with his or her posts, they are at least as respectful of the political posts that I have seen on this site over the last few years. And if anyone wonders, I am not Here Comes Sunshine.

On this topic, to give credit where credit is due, I suspect that Proudfoot and I probably have some pretty different political views, but I have noticed that his general response to political posts on this site over time has been to suggest if you don't like it you don't read it, not that it be censored, and I think this is the sort of respect that is lacking in our society today - the ability to accept that someone else has a differing political view and might express that view, without demanding that the opposing view be censored or shouted down.

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Whatever happened to the old adage "America, love it or leave it"? Democracy means you get the president or government that you deserve.

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Let me be clear Charlie, talking opposite politics does not make me uncomfortable. What I can't abide is lies, just taking HC Suns last post (the one before the lecture he gave me which I forgot to read), he neglects to mention that A) Millions of votes are still being counted in CA and B) 2020 had the highest turnout of all-time. Trump, had 12M more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, everything scaled the way it should have. The word for people who believe lies is "Chump" and the word for people who spread lies is "F*ckwad" Not sure which HC Sun is, either way it deserved a response and there is a place named X where all the chumps and f*uckwads gather, not here

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Snip it or dip it

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Does this Charlie surf?

Zappa said something like

"Politics is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex"

Some see comedy
Some see tragedy

Hopefully the show itself will continue past the next 4 years

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I don't think the content of HCS's post are the problem. It's more that the first posts he or she has posted on here have been quite lengthy political diatribes. If the same stuff had been posted by a regular poster on here I think it might have been read more sympathetically than is the case here.
It would be the same with any subject. If someone's first ever posts were quite long ones about hockey or King Gizzard - or Hawkwind for that matter, everyone else might wonder if that person had got lost or something.

So...a belated welcome to HCS - it doesn't matter what your politics are , or mine - the birds the word.

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....any sort of Punisher logo mash up tells me all I need to know regarding engaging in any sort of debate. 🍻

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I know it's difficult to consider that your TV has been lying to you about many things and it makes you uncomfortable because it challenges your sense of reality, but the name calling makes you look childish and your arguments are unconvincing.

I bet you still wear a mask, am I right? Have you thought about taking the mask off and getting some oxygen? Try it, it might help!

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Please stick with it and refrain from calling each other bad names. Thank you.
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....anyways, a long time friend of mine who I went to several Dead shows with also caught King Gizz for the first time in Phoenix texted me this morning.
"Wanna go on tour again?"

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I have lymphoma. I wear my mask.
Thanks for making fun of me.
1.2 million died of Covid-19 in the US.
Ave. annual flu deaths are in the 40K range.
These two things are not the same.
But cheers anyway.

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....then proceeds to double down with a childish four year old mask "joke" that no one has ever heard before.
Yup. My Punisher logo opinion still tracking as correct. Thanks for reinforcing it. 🍻

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Got anything else other than politics? Do you actually like the dead or are you the prototypical patriot front guy riding in the back of uhauls?

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No, Covid-19 and Influenza are not the same. They do have a very similar IFR (Infection Fatality Ratio) though. In fact, the Flu is more dangerous than Covid for younger people. Covid has a 0.002% fatality rate for under age 18, and a 0.05% fatality rate for ages 18-50. These are the numbers from the CDC.

But no, there is nowhere near that number of people who died from Covid. They just put Covid as cause of death for everything. Again, according to the CDC's own numbers, only 5% of the deaths were from Covid alone. The other 95% had on average 4 comorbidities.

Not to mention, the year before Covid, there were 38 million Flu cases. But the year Covid hit, Flu cases dropped to 2k. That's a statistical impossibility. All Flu cases were misdiagnosed as Covid.

But anyway, masks don't work to prevent the spread of viruses. Fauci is on video admitting such.

Sorry for your health issues, but the guilt trip doesn't change the facts, and it also doesn't excuse the absolute crime against humanity the pandemic response was.

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There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
It's only a guilt trip if you are guilty.
In Uncle John's Band the GD ask, "oh, oh, what I want to know is are you kind?" Why don't you prove you're not an AI bot and post something about the GD? (or hockey, lol)

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....apparently this person DOES have more than politics to discuss.
Good to know. Punisher logo theory enhance!
Awh. They changed it.
Right. On. Cue.
Awesome.
Frank Castle would be proud.

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I changed my pic just for you! Take a look.

It's kind of strange that people go to such lengths to avoid GMO foods (I do as well, so not saying you shouldn't avoid GMO foods), but then turn around and take an unnecessary experimental gene therapy shot for a virus with an overall 99.8% Recovery Rate, and thus turning THEMSELVES into the GMOs. Ironic.

"But the TV didn't tell me that, so that can't be true."

Well, why would they? They are bought and paid for by the big corporations, not least of which is Big Pharma. You know, the ones who are making billions of dollars off the shots.

The process is called "reverse transcription" and it is changing your Genome. GMO (Genetically Modified Organism) is not simply hyperbole on my part. That's what they did to people, through fear and coercion. The long-term effects are unknown.

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Hohoho

And a couple of tralalas

Thats how we laugh the day away in the merry old land of Oz

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