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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    Whatever happened to the old adage "America, love it or leave it"? Democracy means you get the president or government that you deserve.

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    I stopped coming to this site so much over the last few years, and pretty much stopped posting due to the constant stream of left-wing political talking points and the insistence that anyone voicing a contrary opinion be shouted down at once. After the 2016 election this site was overrun with folks pledging their fealty to the “resistance” and promising to resist Trump’s agenda. I don’t recall any big outcry that the site was no place for politics. Likewise, in 2020 when the world went mad, this site was no place to challenge the idea that rioting in the streets and burning down cities was not a constructive or appropriate response, but it was clear that the left and most of the folks here had found a case where political violence was not just acceptable, but almost required, and, again, there was no outcry that this site was an inappropriate forum for discussing it, only an outcry that anyone with a different view bend the knee and acknowledge that everything happening was justified and acceptable or STFU. So, I have to say I find it amusing to see someone come on and spout off political views not commonly expressed here and the response is that it must be trolling and that the admin should remove the posts. Censorship is the apparently the go to answer to speech you don’t like.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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Cool, I will have to check out his show via the Internet. Thanks for the heads up.

I had a theory that maybe your brother was Bolo. I guess not, but you guys must know each other.

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"I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed and deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set........................"

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Commander Cody but from much earlier, boogie woogie from the 40s... just trolling trolls, y'all. I stand by injection, since that was the word used and correctly quoted, bleaching effects of strong light are well known. Truth, not lies.

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Paging through my trusty Deadbase, I noticed once that JGB OPENED for Zappa at The Pavilion in Chicago, on 8/18/84?! That would have been interesting, given Zappa's disdain for Grateful Dead music and most everything associated with them.

Perhaps even MORE interesting is that the previous JGB show two nights prior was at Good Skates Roller Rink in East Setauket, NY?!

Be kind. Rewind.

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Not a bad album, and now that you have mentioned it, Colin, it does appear that the bird could be seeing its reflection in my windows. No one else to whom I mentioned my wayward bird came up with that, but I am considering it as the most likely answer, after confirming that there is a distinct reflection when looking at the window straight on from the birds POV after it tried to get in again this morning. Thanks, I was really starting to wonder WTF was up. Also, while it is likely that our political views are divergent, I suspect my list of TV stations that are propaganda would overlap yours to some degree, as I consider them all to be propaganda, it is just a question of which direction and to what degree. "Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore, Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia."

Live at Grantchester Meadows 1971 - Pink Fairies
Human Garbage - Live in 1984 - The Deviants
The American Dream cd 4 - Ricky Nelson - with James Burton on guitar
Winterland 11/10/73 - Grateful Dead
Jook Joint Blues cd 2 "That Guy's Crazy" - Various

And to further open my mind to the blues, the excellent book by Ted Gioia "Delta Blues".

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Hear the lark and harken to the barking of the dog fox

See the splashing of the kingfisher

And a river of green is sliding unseen beneath the trees

Etc.

Love that track

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Jim - that's from Joe's Garage,,,, pratice made them ready to work in a go-go bar.

FYI - a 50th anniversary of Apostrople is coming out in a 5 cd set. (Frank Zappa)

Dead Head Brewer and Jerry in a Skate Rink. Real question is did they allow skating during the show? I can just imagine Jerry driving the skaters to new heights. Andy Devito could do it with a Wurlitzer organ!

Finally since were posting songs about how shitty tv is,,,, let's not forget Rage Against the Machine - Bullet in the Head.

Checka, checka, check it out
They load the clip in, omnicolor
Said they pack the nine, they fire it at prime time
The sleeping gas, every home was like Alcatraz
And mothafuckas lost their minds
No escape from the mass mind rape
Play it again, Jack, and then rewind the tape
And then play it again, and again, and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin' all the lies that they're tellin' ya
Buyin' all the products that they're sellin' ya
They say jump and ya say "how high?"
Ya braindead, ya got a fuckin' bullet in ya head

As per Python,,,,, "say no more"

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Let's not forget our fabulous furry friends, the Freak Brothers. After an all night , action packed TV watching marathon, ending just as the sun was coming up, it was brought to the attention of our fare haired fun guys that at 2am, just after the star-spangled banner was played, the stations sign off and they were left to watch static for the rest of the night.

Quality TV I say, Fat Freddie approved. What does this have to do with the Grateful Dead? Nothin's shakin on Shakedown Street, ... you just gotta poke around. Just ask Gilbert Shelton

Saw an excellent special on Quantum Physics last night on Nova. I found it most enjoyable. We get bombarded by good and bad information all the time from a variety of sources. It's up to us to filter the crap from the gold.

Joe's garage, that's right. Didn't have no dope or lsd, just a couple a quarts of beer...

Listening to Dave's Picks 43 right now. The section starting with Dark Star ending in Death Don't Have no Mercy. Quality family entertainment there.. holy tv static batman, the walls are melting..

Skating Rink.. Was that the show Jerry had a little too much to drink and fired up the Zamboni during setbreak? what a mess. Or was that a different show? "Jerry Garcia, not known as a heavy drinker, had a few too many before the show and had to be rescued after crashing a Zamboni into the concession stand. No one was injured and no charges were filed but Jerry was never invited to play at a skating rink again"

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DJT does NOT dance like a deadhead. He dances, according to Bill Maher, "like he's
jerking two guys off at once".

When in doubt, twirl.

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Every night you look so mean
Staring at your T.V. screen
I got lost inside a dream
You brought me back Irene Irene.

T.V. Set by The Cramps is a good one about the telly too.

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I was dumb enough to look up who that was

The extra initial threw me

The horror...the horror...

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happened to me PROUDFOOT. I’m about a year behind on the Good Ol’ Grateful Deadcast. Next episode was from the Wake of the Flood 50th Anniversary episodes. The song? Here Comes Sunshine…

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....sing it. It works. Like UV rays and 5G.
What a waste of time.
Probably hits the send button and thinks "that'll show them", when it's quite the opposite. Sad.
Like donalds "dancing". AKA, jerking off giraffes and the United States in general.

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Back to the music!

Favorite Pick: Wichita 11/17/72 + 11/15 Oklahoma City (#11)
Favorite Pigpen Pick: LA 12/12/69 (#10)
Favorite Brent Pick: Atlanta 11/30/80 (#8)
Favorite Pick from 1977: San Bernardino 2/26/77 (#29)
Favorite Bonus Disc: SF 7/16/76 (#18)
Favorite Stealth Box Set: “Spring 1973” (#s 16, 21, and 32)
The Pick I’ve Played the Most: SF 2/24/74 (#13)
A Pick I Didn’t Expect to Like but Did: LA 11/20/71 (#48)
A Pick Some Don’t Like but I Do: Berkeley 8/25/72 (#24) – I don’t mind the Phil boost.

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Budgie - Drugstore woman
Budgie - Panzer division destroyed
Scorpions - Another piece of meat
Thin Lizzy - Killer on the loose
The Animals - A girl named Sandoz

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More fun facts - that was quite controversial back in the day. It was released as a single at a time when there was growing concern about the number of young women being murdered in the North of England by the so called Yorkshire Ripper. Very disconcerting times.
Thin Lizzy were a cracking band live though. As indeed were Budgie.

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Lizzy...
well now,
thanks folks!
I'll go digging and scratching around
later this week in my treasure chest
and located their LP's

PSCHYED!

Onthebus
I like your list, I always like to hear what everyone thinks of past releases...

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Interesting list of DaP favorites. Funny, I have probably listened to DaP13 more than any other pick as well. The bass boost on 8/25/72 never really bothered me, so I liked that one as well. DaP10 is an excellent release, and I would rate the bonus disc from that one as my favorite bonus disc, just hits the spot for me. I dig pretty much anything from 1973, so DaP16 and 21 are definitely favorites, but to be honest, DaP32 did not hit the same heights for me - I like it, but not like DaP16 and 21 which are both just about perfect for me. And while I like the 7/16/76 show on DaP#18 (Onthe bussince77 listed it as DaP16), the one from 6/17/76 on DaP28 is probably my more preferred DaP from that time period, despite the playback issues that were a problem on that release on certain players. Always interesting to see where folks preferences overlap or diverge.

As far as shadenfreude, I have to say that seeing Biden at his first press conference after the election, he had a pep in his step and a big toothy grin that I haven't seen from the guy in months or years, he appeared to be downright thrilled to stay the only democrat to prevail over Trump. It's almost like he resented being dumped from the ticket after the party rigged the primaries for him and was glad his replacement lost. I mean he seemed almost as happy about the result as Here Comes Sunshine. ;)

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(Hey Dennis) RGM selling a 4-LP of this favorite starting 10AM PT Thursday. $99.95
Only 2K copies. This should go fast!
Cheers

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I've just had an email from Real Gone to tell me this is going on sale on Thursday. I have to get up early that day, so I should be in prime position for ordering come the hour. A great release.
I am on the fence for the other new vinyl releases - 12/31/76
- not sure about that one - and 5/5/77 doesn't really grab me - but I do like this show. I remember it came out about the same time as 100 Year Hall on cd - about 30 years ago !

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Thanks for pointing out that mistake CHARLIE3. I was able to edit it.

Since I'm here I thought I'd add two more categories.

Favorite Twofer: SF 11/2/69 & Dallas 12/26/69 (#43)
Favorite Version of a Jerry Ballad: "Black Peter", DeKalb 10/29/77 (#33)

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It appears the Airing of Grievances has commenced a little early this year. So be it. God give me the serenity yada yada. On to the Feats of Strength!

Looks like Real Gone will be offering a 4-lp version of DiP #3, 180g vinyl and the full Jeffrey Norman. Goes on sale Thursday morn.

Stay thirsty, my friends.

Last five:

Mark Turner: Lathe of Heaven
Airplane: Bless Its Pointed Little Head
Mingus: Blues & Roots
TTB: Crescent
Meters: Gettin Funkier All the Time

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I'll take Morning Dew for 1,000 Alex. Either 2/24/74, DaP13 or 2/27/77 DaP29. Either will do.

Since it's also a twofer, do I get a prize?

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I knew it was coming, but it is interesting which few posts were disappeared by the powers that be here.

Note that nowhere did I use inappropriate language or anything of the sort, though the same cannot be said for several posts directed at me.

Rather it was the posting of data that contradicts the mainstream narrative regarding the safety and efficacy of a certain shot many people were coerced into taking, that was deemed so offensive that it required deleting by the admin.

Isn't that interesting.

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....today is the anniversary of the '72 Soldiers And Sailors Memorial Stadium show in KC.
Release worthy.

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In fact, none of the back and forth offered in this topic has been interesting.
Just comes across as a lot of provoking for no reason and trying to get a rise out of otherwise very neighborly interactions. Whatever the intent, it is fairy obvious that this kind of behavior is a major turn-off and, in general, people don't like jerks.
Just be Kind.
There are other avenues to troll and taunt; this ain't one of 'em.

Be Well People.
Sixtus

It's not selective censorship.. I'm surprised it took this long.

Almost none of the stuff you wrote had anything to do with the life, times, music and culture of the Grateful Dead. It does not belong here. Yet you question why it was deleted? Willful ignorance at best.

....a Fox News anchor is going to be our Secretary Of Defense and Musk is going to get a governmental position. I saw it on TV.
Excuse me. I have some champagne to pop. I am now in the stage of acceptance. But. I do have a lot of things going for me. I'm male. Check. I'm straight. Check. (Although. Brad Pitt tests that check sometimes), I'm Christian. Check. I'm white. Check. I was born in Las Vegas. Check.
Yay for meeeee.
Wait. Am I the bad guy?

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"And now for something completely different..."

I haven't mentioned Monty Python for a minute, but I know there are some English on here. As an American kid growing up in the 70s, all I can remember from across the pond, apart from the exceptional rock music, is Benny Hill and Python. Benny Hill was a must watch for the occasional topless lass and Python for everything else - the animation, the cheekiness, the overt yet subtle subversive brilliance. And don't get me started on Fawlty Towers.

Post-2024 American election disaster, it doesn't take long to aspire to be the best human being I can be, to keep the bright flame burning and to really be present for every hot shower, every glance at bright blue sky and every Slow Ride with Missus LedDed. Never know which one may be the last - but I guarantee that one will have been the best.

I have phone-blocked 30 year friends, raged and screamed, and nearly shit myself in my inconsolable, utterly inconsequential downward spiral of self pity. I have let it all out, Lennon primal-scream style, and have since decided to put my Humpty Dumpty self back together again for another four-year tour around the sun, assuming we make it that long.

All I am saying, is give peace a chance. Stranger things have happened.

Last five:

You list yours. Music is cathartic and we love her all.

\m/

....oh. And things are definitely going to be different. To the twisted delight of some and the grounded chagrin of others.
Take care of yourselves. Take care of your friends. Take care of your families. Take care of your pets. Take care of your music.
And Play Dead.
I remember boobs on Benny Hill. Hill's Angel's.
Got my first capcha here in a while. It was stairs. With a political Supreme Court sign in the yard.
Chefs kiss. Guys. It's going to be great. The greatest ever. Trust me.

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Stupid git.

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Bless It's Pointed Little Head was a revelation for me when I first heard it, right from the start with the little clip from King Kong (Oh no, it wasn't the airplanes, it was beauty killed the beast) right into 3/5 of a mile in 10 seconds all the way through to the end of Bear Melt. Fantastic. The cover of Fat Angel is the definitive version for me, although the original Donovan version is cool too. The cover of Fred Neil's The Other Side Of This Life is cool as well, when I hear it now, I can't help but think how it gave such an upbeat vibe to Christopher and Tony running down the degenerate gambler Mahaffey in the first episode of The Sopranos. Kind of like Stuck In the Middle With You forever conjures up a certain scene once you have watched Reservoir Dogs; can't hear the song without flashing on Mr. Blonde, doing his little dance and spending some time with the cop. An upbeat song and a dark scene, makes for an interesting juxtaposition.

Last few -
Santana - Brothers
The Frightnrs - Nothing Left to Say
Skinshape - Another Side of Skinshape
Skinshape - Nostalgia
Tame Impala - Lonerism
Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
Les Imprimes - Reverie

That was considered quite hip back in the day. I saw them live once, along with Captain Beefheart, Steve Miller and Pink Floyd at Knebworth in 1975. Benny Hill on the other hand was seen as being one for the Dads. You wouldn't have caught him at a festival. I can remember going out with someone around that time who said she wouldn't feed Benny Hill to her cat. Who she would feed to her cat, I never thought to ask. Didn't want to push my luck.

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Miles Davis - Best of Seven Steps: 1963-1964
Jerry Garcia - Pure Jerry: Hampton 11/9/91
Masaru Imada Trio + 2 - Green Caterpillar
Isabelle Faust - Bach Sonatas and Partitas, Vol. 1
GD - AOXOMOXOA 50th bonus disc: SF 1/24-26/69

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