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  • Oroborous
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    9/21/74

    Hitting warp drive: P&N>PITB….oh my 😱

    Maybe rehash 7/25 later…been kinda trying to save it for, ya know….

  • uncle_tripel
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    thank you...

    ...to BLUECROW for the history on July 25, 1974; I always wondered why it was missing from the Compendium.
    I have a Charlie M DL which was burned to CD many years ago, and I eventually lost that DL to an external HD failure,
    and now thru the power of tech (CD>iTunes>phone) resides on my phone.
    So without further elaboration, I'm grabbing some coffee and headphones, and I'll be taking off for the 50th anniversary of Chicago's International Ampitheater.

    Peace All!
    uncle_tripel

    btw: a galley is a proofread signed-off final copy of a manuscript that's approved to be reproduced to a printing plate which is then provided to a printing press in book manufacturing

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    So . . . .

    I just realized that tomorrow is the 50th of International Amphitheater 7-25-74 Chicago, IL.

    Proceed accordingly.

    Edit: glad folks here appreciate the story - thank you friends. It was yet another (very) strange occurrence in the desert here and not even the only one that was GOGD related.

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    The goodness continues…

    Edit: thanks BC! That’s an great tale and being aaaaa, “memory challenged” lol, it was nice to refresh. Yes indeed, wonder what else might be “lost” out there?

  • icecrmcnkd
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    6-20-80 Gans-Miller.25469

    Sounds pretty good, has potential to sound even better after being polished up.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Grate story BC

    Wonder if there were other tapers who never released copies.

    Release the SBD Dave.

    Yes, I listened to the Dark Star>Slipknot theme twice.

  • 1stshow70878
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    Thanks BC

    For the taper story.
    Legendary indeed.
    Cheers

  • bluecrow
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    9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich

    Oro on his ongoing trip through '74 had me revisit this overlooked show from Europe '74. (David Usborne matrix). Parts of the SBD are missing but don't be deterred, there's some great playing on this one!

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    7/25/74 tape story

    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

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Yeah PF it’s a shame the DS etc is chopped up.
Really enjoyed this one, especially that DS was way cool then…ugh
Be great if this was a banana box baby…

Not sure what to hit today?
Maybe start on the last 11 from 94, then next week maybe that E90 tour?
I know I dug the previous fall 90 shows, and PFs been digging the E tour, so I might sneak that in for extra credit lol
But first “she left my fat ass there by side of the road”
It’s walk me out in the mornin walk my honey…

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it is…decent aud, sweet Jack to open, ok first, now into Hey Now, hey now lol
Edit: yowsa! Great second set, but the PITB Jam into UJB, THAT is why I listen to these other years! 1stshow, we’re you at these?

Onto 11/30/94

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The end years still had some good parts.

From Set II - sequence of Estimated > Eyes > D/S > Trucking > Black Peter > Around > Sugar Magnolia E: Baby Blue

IWT. Space > Trucking > Black Peter were 30 Days contest for 11/10. Ages since I'd listened to this show and thought I'd circle back. Set I a little rough in places. Set II was a blast, a sweet sweet summer evening > night, lot of weather in the area, remember the wind hinting at rain during Eyes and it was just perfect. Excellent drumzspace - love(d) the marimba. Heavens opened up either during Baby Blue or just as it it finished. Buckets of rain, cats and dogs pouring from the sky. Somehow, soaked to the bone, we all found each other afterwards once the storm passed. Oh yeah - forgot to mention that Set II opened with a touch of the Twilight Zone(!!) > Women are Smarter > Going Down The Road

Fresh Jam of the Week and this Dark Star is beautiful! Felt like I was dropped into an ancient, mythical land. A great way to start this Friday morning.

Edit - and on to the whole show. what we have is amazing. New Potato!!

Terrapin > Playing > Drums > Not Fade Away > Comes A Time > Playing.
E: Johnny B Goode

out of this world - beautiful. A favorite sequence from Spring '77 and just in general.

Earlier a DH friend stopped by unexpected. He hasn't really been purchasing archival releases over the last few years. Whipped up some dinner and we listened to 4/16/78 Huntington WV. It was awesome (both dinner and the music) and now he's gonna buy the Friend of the Devils box.

12/9&11/94

First meh, second show had a great set list but the playing was inconsistent.
Of course there is that sweet Days Between Dave ended up using…

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Buffalo 9th of May 1977, the day after the Cornell show, & some say it's even better.
There are practically no tracks in common, so it's good to hear both of them.
I recorded Buffalo to my computer from Archive, but I find it strange that there's no released separate copy. The bundled limited edition of New Haven, Boston, Cornell & Buffalo is fine if you don't mind spending about $500.

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Sweet Birdsong jam…

And now, Shaking on down with 12/15/94.

And finish with 12/16/94

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DiP 19, Disc 3. - Given that much of my listening is on/through my desktop I finally treated myself to a iFi ZenDAC3 headphone amp w/ iFi 5 volt external power supply. Just arrived and thought I'd take one of my favorite passages of all time for a spin. Headphones are Sennheiser HD650s. It is glorious.

Better Left Unsung - her first GD release.

So incredibly beautiful. Love love love her playing.

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didn’t get a good listen yesterday to 12/16/94 but heard enough to fire up the second set again! Cool Branford gig!

Now onto 12/18…
Another nice second set!
And 12/19 was nice too. LA was a nice little run!

Edit: Yeah BC, I know you dig some 94, so check out the first night of Denver, I know the Auds not great, but it’s not too bad and the show I felt was worth it…especially the PITB jam etc…
And definitely check out 12/16 with Brandford!

I’ve now hit every 94 from 6/8 onward. Didn’t mean too. Started just wanting to check out summer tour and my 30th anniversary shows, but enjoyed them so much I kept going. Really dug the fall tour!

Prolly freak freely, or hit 52 and some other 83 mañana, then onto E90!
Onward!

Dbl Edit: 10/19/73…sigh, don’t know what it is about THAT one lol
So majestic.
Ain’t it crazy how much a little DAC can do!

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Lucky you! That system missed us here in the high desert.

Didn't know about that December show with Branford. Will have to check it out. Tried one of the McNichols shows but had a hard time getting past the audience pulls - they all seemed very distant.

Right now listening to Phil Lesh and Friends - Highlights Vol. 1 - And Love Will See You Through.

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...?

march 22 1973
in utica ny
at utica memorial auditorium
capacity of 5,700

can ya imagine that?

PEACE for ALL!
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I've been missing from the Dead forums for a while now !! Here again !!

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Cue War: “take a little trip…”

So onto Europe 90
Dug the fall tour so much, and with PFs enthusiastic enjoyment, figure I need to just Do It! So here we go, 10/13/90 it is…

Edit: Utica! Yeah Uncle it was a very small venue…front row Jerry for the rocking 3/13/81 show. Wish I remember more, but being young and dumb (some things never change, ahem) I bought a big bottle of 7/7 thinking all the heads could “stay warm” outside for the long GA wait to get in.
Well, lesson learned: cold tripping DH don’t normally drink much, at least before a show…well being in top Olympic form and 7/7 being the go go juice of choice for the band and road crew I was on, I just eventually quaffed her down mostly myself, which would have been fine if we didn’t later smoke sooooo many joints waiting on the floor….
All I’m gonna say bout that is seek Fat Freddie’s wisdom on that lol
But hey, I never left the front rail and ended up having a good show, and learned a valuable lesson that all 18 year olds should know lol
One and only show I ever got that kind of too wasted…
Good show if you’ve never checked it!

Dbl Edit: once again PF has me laughing: imagining him in middle of the teachers lounge correcting student gibberish, edibles, with cans on, cranking heavy metal or some atonal Dark Star while his unsuspecting cohort blather on about nothing LOL!
A true warrior!
Onward Brother!

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the 13 was definitely off from the years previous shows, but I didn’t find it as bad as some have stated. I think DM in his GD bio said it was the worse show he saw? I’m betting set and setting had some influence. I know shows that at the time I thought in the experiential context were no bueno, years later, removed from the set and setting, and ensconced in the luxuries of home, I have not found any shows as bad, or sometimes as good as thought BITD…
Maybe that’s just me?

You can hear the 17 sounds more status quo of this fine year than the 13 fo sho…

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Glad you are getting into Europe 90

13th is a warm up

Plenty of good stuff on the tour yes

Glad I could make you laugh
:)))

Onward, indeed

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10 24 71

DARK STAR

and

it has a Cumberland

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...lol...bottle of 7/7!

march 24 1973
aka daP 32
spectrum in phila

and
"it's gonna be the whole thing"

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

PS - just checked my treasure chest,
CD-R's of EU '90
10/19 - 10/20 - 10/22
will check them out this weekend

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4-18-78 Pittsburgh.
The Scarlet > Dancing is suspenseful.
You just keep wondering when they are going to get to Fire and then they don't. And it's a wonderful journey getting there.
Cheers

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Set I closer - Bird Song > Music Never Stopped. And now Set II.

That run was a whole lot of fun!

Edit - and today I learned that Bowie was playing Mile High this night! WAT??!!

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The only time I made Red Rocks. My memories of the third show are the best. Wish the recordings were better. Wish my memory was better. I think me and my girlfriend at the time were having some difficulties this week which sort of got in the way of the shows. Too bad, but we had been away for a month by this point and sleep came at a premium. Still a good time and there was a lot of magic seeing the GD at the Rocks.

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You should check out today's 30 days :) that was a sweet Box of Rain to close Set I.

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Driving across the ship canal bridge into Seattle
Nice sunrise with Cascade Mountains
Let It Grow 10 30 90 playing
Yes
Yes
Yes

GBtGD

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On Dave's Picks 3 - quite a snappy show. With 10/21 on the 3rd disc, we have "The Other One", "Dark Star" and hot licks a go go on the country/rock n' roll songs.

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...finished 3/24/73
and 10/22/90 frankfurt (sounded abit tired and vocals seemed muddled)

today
10/19/90 ICC in Berlin
was a radio broadcast
and a band with much more enthusiasm

everyone have a safe weekend
stay dry
and rock on

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

edit ---
xtended the pre-order
by a week
???
probably
should lower the
subscription qty
lower to 20k
introduce a
additional
mini-release of
6 CD's
(2 shows from '73-'74)
(3 shows from 1982, hahaha)

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I also enjoyed the shows at Red Rocks 87. Does anyone else recall seeing b&w video monitors on the mixing board all 3 nights? (In addition to the unofficial version already available online). I suspect there is a lot more 87 video too, judging from what was officially released during that era.

Related note, I like meet up at the movies, and would even enjoy seeing compiled short bits of older video with intros and history from GD folks. Ive been visiting "Wolfgang's Dead" Youtoop channel lately. There is so much more than I ever knew. So, If they release it, I will buy it..

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Day off and fired this up, since I didn't have the opportunity to listen to it on the anniversary yesterday. BTW keeps pouring in ! ... Awesome set 2, plus love the OO - MLB - Stella filler from the 20th.

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10/20&22/90
Both good, thought first show was better. Loved the Bruce Jam in the first, and sweet spacey Dark Star, though perhaps not JGs best version. In fact I’m digging these shows a lot, but Jer occasionally seems? Every now and then he kinda drifts? Hard to describe, just something..is..? Maybe just me?
Fun if not great Valley Road, nice SOTM, and that Stella might just be the best thing I’ve heard on the tour so far, amazing Stella on the 22!

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10/24/90 to start…
EDIT: smooth show, perhaps best playing overall this tour, if perhaps a bit safe/cautious?

Onto 10/27, and hoping for a DHB with 10/28 as TOO is off to work, woo hoo!
Dbl Edit: holy crap! Now I’ve played the Boxilla 27th before, but I guess I hadn’t actually “heard” it yet! Yowsa! Good Sheet Mon!

Ok, onto the 28…