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    :)))

  • Oroborous
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    RE: 9/21/74 Dew

    It’s very unusual PF…perhaps the quietest Dew I’ve heard?
    Thought it was real Lysergic at first with the unparalleled gentle dynamics, but then they just sorta end it, thereby not achieving the liftoff and the powerful other end of the dynamic spectrum you’d expect.
    Meaning, if they’d added a more normal, big finale, loud and powerful ending, to such a delicate little prelude, we might be trash talking goat lol.
    But it just doesn’t really take flight, like JG was too high and all of a sudden after 15 minutes, wanted it to be over. Very unusual and interesting…
    Whole tour was different.
    Big difference in the Piano audio from 5/12 until 9/21. Much better.
    Pretty decent show and audio, except Bob is extremely low in the mix.
    Plenty of Phil though lol
    Ok, onward to 7/12/89!

    Edit: Chula Rocks!

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    Obeah - glad you liked the story. Recounting it all these years later has me thinking I need to try and track down the mystery taper. I'll report back (it may be awhile.) Despite my Chicago area roots and a love of history, I must admit that the history associated with the International Amphitheatre is not something I was familiar with. I was in grade school at the time Pigasus the Immortal was nominated and have no memory of the '68 Convention nor had I ever heard of Pigasus until now. Looks like the Pigasus nomination took place at another locale in the city (Chicago Civic Center later known as Richard J Daley Center, which is how I knew it later). A close friend's older brother was a class of '68 valedictorian (I think) in HS along front range and won a trip to attend the '68 Dem Convention. Total straight arrow guy. Came back shocked and completely changed by what he saw and went full counterculture.

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    thanks Bluecrow / Unusual Occurences in the Desert

    I really appreciate you taking the time to share that story esp since it's not the first time. You told it in a very evocative way, too. Personally I've never lived in a high desert town but I grew up in SoCal near enough to the Antelope Valley to have visited regularly, so at least I have a feel for the flavor. So that story really resonated. And as to questionable AUDs, well, I'm a sucker for 11-11-1970, as I've expressed elsewhere, so that just adds to the mystique. All the more so when there's no other way to take that ride (I'd like to have it one more time...)

    I checked and don't have 7/25 in my collection so I will indeed go and find that GEMS version. Thanks for the tip.

    I had to go look up the Chicago Int'l Amphitheater. Never realized it figured in some notable events of 1968 including the 'Pigasus' incident. I went and looked at some photos of the venue, checked out its histoyr, and it reminded me a bit of the Cow Palace in SF due to the showing of livestock. I wonder just how many ice rinks were venues for the Grateful Dead over the years...

    Anyway thanks again. I meant to reply sooner but got busy late Wednesday night posting about that '70 Brooklyn Bowl show, and then despite yesterday being the 50th anniversary of the 7/25/74 show, I was unexpectedly too busy to get over here to post.

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    Chula Vista BABY!

    got up this morning with a hankerin' for some 1985, 3 seconds later, oh yeah...
    September 15th @ Devore Field

    west L.A. fade away,
    here's one chance you say
    she tries to live by the golden rule
    said you TREAT other people RIGHT
    people probably treat you COOL

    enjoy your weekend if you can, and...
    treat other people right!

    Peace for All
    uncle_tripel

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Grease is the only cure for a hangover.......

    Morning rockers, happy Friday!!!

    Right now? Princeton, April 17 1971. Why? C'mon!!! Pigpen. Greasy is as greasy does.

    Man - life in general - seems irrelevant to the workings of the universe: a mere smudge of water, grease, and carbon on a pinpoint planet circling a star of no special consequence.....

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    Embrace the grease, if any, and look fresh and human........
    P.S. Still waiting on 51.............

  • TN John
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    Winterland

  • proudfoot
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    9 21 74

    Please post what your opinion is of the show's Morning Dew, Oro

  • bluecrow
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    Not right now . . .

    on recent long drive to/from project area, the 2 shows that really stood out in road music were DiP 19 - 10/19/73 Oklahoma City Fairgrounds and 10/16/89 (Nightfall of Diamonds, Meadowlands). Disc 3 from 10/19 is one of my favorites of anything released to date. I love love love the Dark Star > Mind Left Body Jam!!

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    6-17-91 vinyl

    Spinning now.

    Yes, a galley proof is a test printing that is checked for errors and corrected before going into the final published version.
    Much easier these days with computers compared to setting the letters for a printing press.

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Yeah PF it’s a shame the DS etc is chopped up.
Really enjoyed this one, especially that DS was way cool then…ugh
Be great if this was a banana box baby…

Not sure what to hit today?
Maybe start on the last 11 from 94, then next week maybe that E90 tour?
I know I dug the previous fall 90 shows, and PFs been digging the E tour, so I might sneak that in for extra credit lol
But first “she left my fat ass there by side of the road”
It’s walk me out in the mornin walk my honey…

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it is…decent aud, sweet Jack to open, ok first, now into Hey Now, hey now lol
Edit: yowsa! Great second set, but the PITB Jam into UJB, THAT is why I listen to these other years! 1stshow, we’re you at these?

Onto 11/30/94

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The end years still had some good parts.

From Set II - sequence of Estimated > Eyes > D/S > Trucking > Black Peter > Around > Sugar Magnolia E: Baby Blue

IWT. Space > Trucking > Black Peter were 30 Days contest for 11/10. Ages since I'd listened to this show and thought I'd circle back. Set I a little rough in places. Set II was a blast, a sweet sweet summer evening > night, lot of weather in the area, remember the wind hinting at rain during Eyes and it was just perfect. Excellent drumzspace - love(d) the marimba. Heavens opened up either during Baby Blue or just as it it finished. Buckets of rain, cats and dogs pouring from the sky. Somehow, soaked to the bone, we all found each other afterwards once the storm passed. Oh yeah - forgot to mention that Set II opened with a touch of the Twilight Zone(!!) > Women are Smarter > Going Down The Road

Fresh Jam of the Week and this Dark Star is beautiful! Felt like I was dropped into an ancient, mythical land. A great way to start this Friday morning.

Edit - and on to the whole show. what we have is amazing. New Potato!!

Terrapin > Playing > Drums > Not Fade Away > Comes A Time > Playing.
E: Johnny B Goode

out of this world - beautiful. A favorite sequence from Spring '77 and just in general.

Earlier a DH friend stopped by unexpected. He hasn't really been purchasing archival releases over the last few years. Whipped up some dinner and we listened to 4/16/78 Huntington WV. It was awesome (both dinner and the music) and now he's gonna buy the Friend of the Devils box.

12/9&11/94

First meh, second show had a great set list but the playing was inconsistent.
Of course there is that sweet Days Between Dave ended up using…

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Buffalo 9th of May 1977, the day after the Cornell show, & some say it's even better.
There are practically no tracks in common, so it's good to hear both of them.
I recorded Buffalo to my computer from Archive, but I find it strange that there's no released separate copy. The bundled limited edition of New Haven, Boston, Cornell & Buffalo is fine if you don't mind spending about $500.

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Sweet Birdsong jam…

And now, Shaking on down with 12/15/94.

And finish with 12/16/94

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DiP 19, Disc 3. - Given that much of my listening is on/through my desktop I finally treated myself to a iFi ZenDAC3 headphone amp w/ iFi 5 volt external power supply. Just arrived and thought I'd take one of my favorite passages of all time for a spin. Headphones are Sennheiser HD650s. It is glorious.

Better Left Unsung - her first GD release.

So incredibly beautiful. Love love love her playing.

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didn’t get a good listen yesterday to 12/16/94 but heard enough to fire up the second set again! Cool Branford gig!

Now onto 12/18…
Another nice second set!
And 12/19 was nice too. LA was a nice little run!

Edit: Yeah BC, I know you dig some 94, so check out the first night of Denver, I know the Auds not great, but it’s not too bad and the show I felt was worth it…especially the PITB jam etc…
And definitely check out 12/16 with Brandford!

I’ve now hit every 94 from 6/8 onward. Didn’t mean too. Started just wanting to check out summer tour and my 30th anniversary shows, but enjoyed them so much I kept going. Really dug the fall tour!

Prolly freak freely, or hit 52 and some other 83 mañana, then onto E90!
Onward!

Dbl Edit: 10/19/73…sigh, don’t know what it is about THAT one lol
So majestic.
Ain’t it crazy how much a little DAC can do!

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Lucky you! That system missed us here in the high desert.

Didn't know about that December show with Branford. Will have to check it out. Tried one of the McNichols shows but had a hard time getting past the audience pulls - they all seemed very distant.

Right now listening to Phil Lesh and Friends - Highlights Vol. 1 - And Love Will See You Through.

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...?

march 22 1973
in utica ny
at utica memorial auditorium
capacity of 5,700

can ya imagine that?

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

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I've been missing from the Dead forums for a while now !! Here again !!

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Cue War: “take a little trip…”

So onto Europe 90
Dug the fall tour so much, and with PFs enthusiastic enjoyment, figure I need to just Do It! So here we go, 10/13/90 it is…

Edit: Utica! Yeah Uncle it was a very small venue…front row Jerry for the rocking 3/13/81 show. Wish I remember more, but being young and dumb (some things never change, ahem) I bought a big bottle of 7/7 thinking all the heads could “stay warm” outside for the long GA wait to get in.
Well, lesson learned: cold tripping DH don’t normally drink much, at least before a show…well being in top Olympic form and 7/7 being the go go juice of choice for the band and road crew I was on, I just eventually quaffed her down mostly myself, which would have been fine if we didn’t later smoke sooooo many joints waiting on the floor….
All I’m gonna say bout that is seek Fat Freddie’s wisdom on that lol
But hey, I never left the front rail and ended up having a good show, and learned a valuable lesson that all 18 year olds should know lol
One and only show I ever got that kind of too wasted…
Good show if you’ve never checked it!

Dbl Edit: once again PF has me laughing: imagining him in middle of the teachers lounge correcting student gibberish, edibles, with cans on, cranking heavy metal or some atonal Dark Star while his unsuspecting cohort blather on about nothing LOL!
A true warrior!
Onward Brother!

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the 13 was definitely off from the years previous shows, but I didn’t find it as bad as some have stated. I think DM in his GD bio said it was the worse show he saw? I’m betting set and setting had some influence. I know shows that at the time I thought in the experiential context were no bueno, years later, removed from the set and setting, and ensconced in the luxuries of home, I have not found any shows as bad, or sometimes as good as thought BITD…
Maybe that’s just me?

You can hear the 17 sounds more status quo of this fine year than the 13 fo sho…

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Glad you are getting into Europe 90

13th is a warm up

Plenty of good stuff on the tour yes

Glad I could make you laugh
:)))

Onward, indeed

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10 24 71

DARK STAR

and

it has a Cumberland

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...lol...bottle of 7/7!

march 24 1973
aka daP 32
spectrum in phila

and
"it's gonna be the whole thing"

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

PS - just checked my treasure chest,
CD-R's of EU '90
10/19 - 10/20 - 10/22
will check them out this weekend

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4-18-78 Pittsburgh.
The Scarlet > Dancing is suspenseful.
You just keep wondering when they are going to get to Fire and then they don't. And it's a wonderful journey getting there.
Cheers

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Set I closer - Bird Song > Music Never Stopped. And now Set II.

That run was a whole lot of fun!

Edit - and today I learned that Bowie was playing Mile High this night! WAT??!!

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The only time I made Red Rocks. My memories of the third show are the best. Wish the recordings were better. Wish my memory was better. I think me and my girlfriend at the time were having some difficulties this week which sort of got in the way of the shows. Too bad, but we had been away for a month by this point and sleep came at a premium. Still a good time and there was a lot of magic seeing the GD at the Rocks.

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You should check out today's 30 days :) that was a sweet Box of Rain to close Set I.

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Driving across the ship canal bridge into Seattle
Nice sunrise with Cascade Mountains
Let It Grow 10 30 90 playing
Yes
Yes
Yes

GBtGD

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On Dave's Picks 3 - quite a snappy show. With 10/21 on the 3rd disc, we have "The Other One", "Dark Star" and hot licks a go go on the country/rock n' roll songs.

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...finished 3/24/73
and 10/22/90 frankfurt (sounded abit tired and vocals seemed muddled)

today
10/19/90 ICC in Berlin
was a radio broadcast
and a band with much more enthusiasm

everyone have a safe weekend
stay dry
and rock on

PEACE for ALL!
uncle_tripel

edit ---
xtended the pre-order
by a week
???
probably
should lower the
subscription qty
lower to 20k
introduce a
additional
mini-release of
6 CD's
(2 shows from '73-'74)
(3 shows from 1982, hahaha)

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I also enjoyed the shows at Red Rocks 87. Does anyone else recall seeing b&w video monitors on the mixing board all 3 nights? (In addition to the unofficial version already available online). I suspect there is a lot more 87 video too, judging from what was officially released during that era.

Related note, I like meet up at the movies, and would even enjoy seeing compiled short bits of older video with intros and history from GD folks. Ive been visiting "Wolfgang's Dead" Youtoop channel lately. There is so much more than I ever knew. So, If they release it, I will buy it..

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Day off and fired this up, since I didn't have the opportunity to listen to it on the anniversary yesterday. BTW keeps pouring in ! ... Awesome set 2, plus love the OO - MLB - Stella filler from the 20th.

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10/20&22/90
Both good, thought first show was better. Loved the Bruce Jam in the first, and sweet spacey Dark Star, though perhaps not JGs best version. In fact I’m digging these shows a lot, but Jer occasionally seems? Every now and then he kinda drifts? Hard to describe, just something..is..? Maybe just me?
Fun if not great Valley Road, nice SOTM, and that Stella might just be the best thing I’ve heard on the tour so far, amazing Stella on the 22!

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10/24/90 to start…
EDIT: smooth show, perhaps best playing overall this tour, if perhaps a bit safe/cautious?

Onto 10/27, and hoping for a DHB with 10/28 as TOO is off to work, woo hoo!
Dbl Edit: holy crap! Now I’ve played the Boxilla 27th before, but I guess I hadn’t actually “heard” it yet! Yowsa! Good Sheet Mon!

Ok, onto the 28…