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    Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

     

    I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

    One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

    In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

    The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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    And here I thought I was the ONLY one who bought their album "Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury".

    My fave was/is Language of Violence. Powerful shit. Heard this cut and that day bought the album.

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    ...ain't saying what will be,
    it's always been that way
    only thing I know for sure,
    someone got to pay
    easy answers
    ain't no easy answers,
    is what I got to say

    lyrics by hunter / weir

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    Long Strange Trip

    A long, strange and really good read. If only you could read these books or tell these stories in reverse.. the ending chapters can be a bit depressing and the has such a great start. I guess that's often true with life. I swore I was going to listen to 30 Trips Around the Sun in reverse order, but one close look at 1967 changed all that.

    I also liked McNally's "On Highway 61" book. A nice history of where we are and how we got there. Another long, but excellent read.

    Yes, I like to read when time arrives regardless of if I watch TV and what channels I choose to watch.

    I finally got caught up on at least ripping the glorious GD bounty we have received this year. Getting all the metadata exactly right takes forever.. From one CD to the next the auto created metadata is never exactly perfect. I like all the CD's of a show in the same folder with a song naming convention that is consistent and works. I also like the song descriptions, track number, show name to be organized and consistent. And whoever decided it's a good idea to the word "live" next to each song will never understand this. Probably works for most bands where all you have is one live version and one studio version but not so much with the band beyond description.

    Things are exactly perfect now, nothing left to but listen and smile, smile, smile.

    Be good folks, be happy not bitter. Be nice and respectful of and to one another. If nothing else, you'll probably live longer and certainly live happier.

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    Stop checking for a day and come back to ten pages of "content"? My comment way back was meant as satire, anyone see SNL? They were not worried about free speech... much. Is all the pus out yet? OK, one quick question, how many other presidents suggested shooting bleach during a pandemic? Some great football yesterday, but let's get back to music and our musical heroes. Almost finished McNallys Long Strange Trip. (The Dead avoided politics for a long time). Much enjoyed the song writing references but curiously found nothing about Mississippi Half Step, admittedly is lightweight on lyrics but so much fun. McNally references Jim Rooney, one of our local grandfathers who will be playing this Friday night at a small local venue. Looking forward to Zach Nugent who will be joined by Sunshine Garcia Becker and Cheryl Rucker for an acoustic GD evening, (so no Wolf appearance though he sometimes gets to borrow it). Enjoy your Veterans Day with some music and thanks for your service.

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    Morning, rockers! Thank a veteran.............

    This is for all of us-----left, center, or right----who buy into their own particular brand of propaganda and misinformation.............

    HCS, thanks for the enlightment. I was not aware that DT was going to morph into a mutant hybrid of Abraham Lincoln and Mother Teresa. I eagerly await the transformation......

    Our republic has been damaged before, and it will be again, but it will survive...........

    When people in positions of trust mislead us - either recklessly, negligently or intentionally - that impacts the republic............

    Think.
    Resist.
    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    Let's now return to our regularly scheduled musical content, devoid of politics, religion, and sports. Well, maybe not sports, ice hockey seems to be big around here.........

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    Charlie3

    Yes, ‘Spanish Pipedream’ by John Prine is a great song. I do wonder if ICE would deport Jesus if they found him?
    I agree tha television has a large impact on people’s thinking but I doubt we’d agree on which channels are pushing the most propaganda.

    I have been listening to ‘Television, the drug of the nation’ by The Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprasy’:

    “T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
    Nation reads books daily
    Why most people think Central America
    means Kansas
    Socialism means unamerican
    and Apartheid is a new headache remedy.
    Television, the drug of the nation
    Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.”

    More than 30 years old and still relevant.

    On another topic. The bird that is trying to get through your window can almost certainly see its own reflection and is trying to drive out what it sees as an intruder into its territory. This also happens with side mirrors on cars. Small birds can spend a lot of time in car parks tapping on the side mirrors!

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    Now we are talking. Brokedown Palace playing from 11/10/73 as I type. Beautiful.

    The challenge today would surely be to turn off our computers, not T.V.s. All forms of online communication. It's rock n' roll - and the message is .. ..

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    I find myself thinking of John Prine - "Blow up your TV, throw away your paper, Go to the country, Plant a little garden, Eat a lot of Peaches, Try and find Jesus on your own". Sage advice is timeless.

    Some cool new soul by bands with Thee in the title - Thee Sinseers, Thee Heart Tones, Thee Marloes (soul by way of Indonesia, pretty cool), Thee Sacred Souls. A lot of other cool new soul too, lot's of cool stuff on Daptone Records, Big Crown Records and Colemine Records.

    Ghost Funk Orchestra has some cool sounds, good stuff to listen to and wonder why I'm not depressed as I watch a three-decade plus marriage implode around me. I seem to have achieved some sort of accidental equanimity.

    Life is full of mysteries. The current mystery confronting me is why a particular bird has been attempting to get through my windows and into my house. For two weeks at least. Every day. Over and over. Fly to the window, try to push through. Sit and stare through the window. Fly to a nearby branch and stare some more. Try another window. Repeat. Over and over. Two weeks straight. Same bird. I'm starting to consider opening the window to let it in just to see what it will do. The cats seem to think it's a good idea to solve the mystery, but I think that they have ulterior motives.

    It's strange, but I've noticed that somewhere around 75-80mph whatever music I'm listening to in the car sounds better. The cool thing is that's barely over the speed limit if at all on a lot of MT roads.

    I'd suggest everyone watch Network again. That movie is a classic, and freakily prescient. "You have meddled with the primal forces of nature Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!" Great performance by Ned Beatty.

    When you complain about billionaires throwing their money into politics, don't forget George Soros, he's been in the game a lot longer than Elon, and unlike Elon he has not advanced space travel by decades for humanity. I mean, holy shit, did you see that rocket come in for a landing and get caught by the giant mechanical arms? To think, for decades, NASA just discarded that stuff. Whatever you think about his politics, he has made giant strides in space travel.

    Everyone can take heart that money can't buy an election it appears, because KH spent a cool billion dollars in about 100 days and was unsuccessful, suggesting that money alone is insufficient. We all should have already learned that lesson watching JEB! and his insurmountable war chest go down in flames in 2016 after raising a then insane amount of money and going nowhere in the primary.

    Boredom is an odd sort of relaxing, "Oh that magic feeling, Nowhere to go, Nowhere to go..."

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    plenty of envy from me to your bro being at 11 11 73

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    One killer box set. Winter land 1973, its in my top 3 of box sets. My brother went to 11/11/73.

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

 

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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a little windy in my area

outer places around the rest of western Washington got blasted

some people still not with power

In my day they said "wind storm"

now it's a BOMB CYCLONE!!!

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A rainstorm with a marketing team, I'm thinking.

It's raining here in NorCal. Pretty hard in fact. Like it pretty much always used to do in November, back when we had the old climate. Back before they invented bomb cyclones.

As usual, I agree with Daverock: please oh please oh powers that bes, please issue all the good stuff you possibly can while I'm still alive.

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The big Floyd Box was also broken up into smaller Boxes.
I bought all the small ones for about half the price of the big one, and only missed out on the schwag and a bonus CD.
The movies in the big Box are available individually.

I want the music and generally don’t even look at the other junk that comes in the Box. That drum does me no good and is a waste of space. So Dave/Rhino, scale back the size of the packaging and sell the related schwag separately. If you wore the apron with the axe attached to your belt, and had the mushroom foraging tool in one hand and the drum in the other hand, you would make a great marketing image for the schwag store. But it wouldn’t help me listen to the music.

3-4 mini Boxes per year would be grate. I want new shows arriving every month.
Space isn’t that big of an issue because I keep buying vinyl. I just don’t need the schwag.

That’s a good price for 6-10-73 vinyl. There’s a lot of LP’s in that Box.

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I would really like to see DP 1 reissued in its complete form - along with the 18th. Add one more show from the prior week (recommendations? since it has been a long time since I went beyond the very gooey Cleveland show) and that would be perfect.
Another example I'd love to see - would need maximum Normanization though, as it's Spring '82 - would be the two killer Hartford shows, backstopped by 4/19 Baltimore Civic Center ... And of course, *anything* they can work up from the '68 to '70 range!

Ticket To New Year’s video has Jerry demonstrating the bacon wrapped water chestnut recipe.
I haven’t had those in years. They were a popular item in the 80’s.

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DiP 3 vinyl finally out for delivery.
A week after others but just in time.
RGM is pretty fast all in all.
Have a good weekend.
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I like swag as much as the next guy, but agree if you can keep cost down and get more music,,,,well easy choice. Feel the same about video, I almost never watch it.

Now the axe on the other hand......

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Glad your well PF, good up north too. In the old days, us Seattleites didn't call it a "Bomb Cyclone" we just called in November

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Nobody bothers me anymore.

I love the axe, the single best piece of swag they ever sold. I wonder what delinquent dreamed that one up.

Ticket to New Years - Jerry (with a painful grimace on his face after either touching or popping one of the bacon wrapped water chestnuts in his mouth), "careful, it's hot"

As much as possible: Road Trips 6/16 & 6/18 (+ maybe the Omni show?) - all Plangented and Normanized up ... Essential!
Perhaps this next one is more than mini, and of course a bunch of it is out there in pieces, but the whole 2/11 - 2/14/70 should be assembled together (pretty please).
Seconding (third or fourthing?) the many calls for Merriweather Post Pavilion 6/30 & 7/1 85, which were my 3rd and 4th shows + tack Hershey on the front to fill it out.
I also saw two sets of excellent '91 shows (my last 5-6 attended) at Cal Expo - one run with and IIRC one without Bruce. We need more of this era - please.
So, total ditto re: Europe 90 that is being discussed on the other thread. Pick the 3-4 best shows remaining (other than Paris that DL selected for 30 Trips), and I would have to jump on it.
Cheers, All

Strat Wolf, if I'm ever you way I hope I will get a little tasting. Caught all the Merriweather shows, would love a little mini box of some of those.

Now that I think of it, it's a good way to cut loose some of the 80's cassette masters without upsetting the apple cart for those who get a little stir crazy when too many 80's shows flood the Dave's Picks and Box Sets.

Two and three show little mini-boxes outside the subscription, fewer frills and let them go at a little under the 25k target run size. Then keep everything else as it is. Sounds like a win/win to me.

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Winter land 3/18/,19,20/77 or. 4/5&6/69 10/31/69. or 6/27&28/69 10/31/69 the possibilities are endless.

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....but guest sit-ins will probably shoot that prospect down.
Plus.....the love for post Brent Dead has been pretty much ignored.
Giants box gave me a fix though.

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The Alice from Alice's Restaurant. My wine glass will be half full this Thanksgiving in her honor.

And one day they will have to get around to the post Brent era. I realize it's not everyone's favorite, but there are some good shows to be had. Plus it represents 1/6th of their touring years, it doesn't seem right to pretend it didn't happen. Some of the Vegas shows are standouts during this period.

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I think for me the first May '77 box, the July '78 box and the June '76 boxes were all the perfect mix of cool and practical. I don't need the schwag so much. And Vguy if it is a sword that you want, let me give a shout out for a local Missoula, Montana business, Zombie Tools, Accessories for the Apocalypse. No Katana per se, but there is an Apokatana. Pretty much started as a bunch of guys phucking around and now they sell lots of custom sword variations, made in Missoula. I have not personally acquired one, but I think one of my nephews did. Maybe the site can pair up for a custom dead flavored variation to go along with the axe.

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Started the day with Let It Grow>He's Gone from #52. Really great stuff, paired well with a hunk of edible and a hot coffee!

Also nice to see some recognition of the Vince years. Plenty of great music to be had in those years for sure!!

EDIT: excellent drums here as well

Rock on, gang

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I agree on the Vegas theme. They could do a lot of cool stuff, think St. Louis type treatment, from Vegas.

That Vegas sun sure created a lot of hot shows!!

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I also think they cannot ignore the Kiddd's Picks forever. They are pure gold.

They cannot ignore 1968 forever either. I was listening to Dickus Pickus 22 yesterday. More God than I've ever absorbed in church. You have a responsibility, a duty, Dave and Rhino. With so much trouble in the world you have a mandate to release some 1968, it has the power to change the course of world history. It did it once, it can do it again. That is all.

You cant get the hatchet

But you can get a dancing bear CANDLE for the low low price of $66!!!

"Its a candle..."

Less krehp, more music, yo!

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So a suggestion was for 6/28, 30, & 7/1/ 85, great, awesome shows, I was there, but then what, your not going to put out Toga, or perhaps the best show of the tour-Blossom, or Alpine, or Greeks, or Ventura? I mean if they did four mini boxes of this tour great, but that ain’t gonna happen.
So it’s a nice idea, and there are lots of situations where it would work, but you have to think big picture. Sometimes you just have to go big!
I can’t imagine E72 or spring 90 chopped/reduced to a mini box or 2.
So again, I suggest one big box a year, along with all the mini boxes they feel like giving us lol. Like others, I’ll take it all!

But also like others, skip the schwag, keep ‘em light and tight, music only additions rock! Maybe if they didn’t waste so much time and resources on schwag and art etc, they'd be able to get more music out!

And I agree, there is a ton of great music post Brent. I’ve been checking it out last couple years and have been pleasantly surprised at how good some shows are. Hell, there’s a lot of good music left from most years (that haven’t been oversaturated already) most especially primal…WTF David? ; )

3-20-92 playing in the car.
Good stuff.

For the record, I’m not against big Boxes, I just don’t need the schwag. I’ll take a big Box, 2 mini Boxes, an unlimited stand alone release, and a DaP subscription every year Dave/Rhino.
My old buddy you’re moving much too slow.
Pick up the pace of releases.

We need more 91’s, and there are some good shows from 92-95. Let’s start with 3-30-94 and that monster set 2.

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wouldn’t most rather have six shows in a bare bones package like for example The GD Movie Soundtrack “box” or the Garcia All Good Things box,
instead of a 2 show box with art and schwag if they cost the same!
More MUSIC por favor!

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All's well, and I'll gladly enjoy them however they come out ... Being desirous of those '85 shows I mentioned was not meant to suggest disinterest in a bigger Summer '85 box. I'd have to consider it, of course.
But with one kid in college and another a year plus out, smaller boxes added in to the overall mix would be easier to fund and choose - as opposed to passing on the whole thing, which is what happened this last time with FotD. As I already really enjoy the Nashville show + mostly so with William & Mary on the 15th (plus I have Normal, IL as well that I don't listen to often), I would have been fine with the 11th Fox, 14th Blacksburg, and the upgrade on he killer Huntington show.
Have a good Saturday, All!

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793/2000 in the house.
Caveat emptor says newly remastered for vinyl from the original tapes. Going to have to wait until I can rock the house. I'll let you know if it's good, lol.
Cheers

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....it's like, really good. Congrats 1stshow. It's got a Terrapin -> Dew ffs!
6.10.73 being delivered tomorrow.
Just paid off my Amazon card. Oh well.

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Some great ideas all ‘round for mini-boxes, and one more for the pile - instead of what is normally done (a theatre or date run), or in conjunction with, have a few more editions of the truly top-notch “So Many Roads”, at least the theme. Not complete runs, venues, or dates, but more something of the truly amazing performances of songs.
If I wanted to really tune someone into how amazing the Dead were (are?), I’d use “Roads” as a good starting point. Playing them ONE show to start them off (Insert: Favourite Here) is too limiting, but a full-on cross section of great performances might mix things up nicely.
Just a thought.

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The All Good Things box is one of my favorites. The three “extra” CDs are money!

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Excelllent idea! So Many Roads box is fine piece

Also, a composite show peiced together for a1995 show at some point. I would be interested anyhow

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Just making conversation : )
And only used your 85 suggestion as it was a good example of my thought, absolutely nothing ment by it!
And you make a fine point with FOTD box, could easily of been a mini without those first few shows. The meat really did seem to be from second Fox onward…
But betting those shows then wouldn’t get out, or if he Daved em, he’d probably catch an extra helping of grief? (To me a “Dave’s” should be a top show or good representation, from a tour or era i.e., DaP 37 speaking of that tour being a great example)
But I totally understand you and DR et el I guess it’s the old quantity versus quality conundrum…hell early on I was not going to get sucked into collecting but here we are lol. So now just another DH junkie jonesing for more fixed up shows lol, but yeah, it’s become as much about the collection as listening preference.
As far as that goes I could probably just get away with a few more boxes from (hopefully) some specific tours, ANY multitracks they have, or any shows I was at that (hopefully) Dave might consider…
But, bye tge ticket, take the ride lol
ONWARD!
Oh, greetings to the neighborhood by the way.

EDIT: good idea Mikey! Or even more compilations like that fine Ladies and Gentleman (only don’t chop up such a historic run that should have got the treatment lol) Go Leafs! Sabs still suck, AVs need a Goalie, bad!

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....yeah. I can see that. Got sparse that year.
Looking back, i remember thinking, "Whats up with all these shitty Phil tunes?"
No offense Mr. Lesh, but eww.
Deep into the Gizzverse today. Checking out the St. Louis show on Spot. Daily Blues into Sea Of Trees kicks ass.

Ouch lol

But yeah for some of “those” years I’d be a nice way to get at least some out.
Kinda dug the 93 Dicks for that. Great intro to a year I’d sorta wrote off without trying…
Or, maybe a best of highlights from some years, but it’d have to an “additional” release or I think an angry mob would seek ole Dave out and tar and feather him lol

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