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  • uncle_tripel
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    and so I decided...

    ...to build upon #52 and continue the 80's theme 'til delivery day
    (order confirmation "check!")

    turn-on, tune-in, and veg out (that was the 80's, right?)

    october 22 1983 carrier dome syracuse ny

    jerry noodles set 2 opener
    crazy->tease->fingers->china cat

    PEACE for ALL!
    uncle_tripel

  • icecrmcnkd
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    12-18-73

    Dark Star just started.

    12-18,19-73, and the other chop jobs from that Fall tour (11-20, 11-30, 12-4, 12-6) should be Plangentized/Normanized, Boxed up, and released.

  • Dennis
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    Uncle Trip and 7/4/86

    I was there, I recognized the t-shirt Jerry is wearing :-)

    Second set opened with a great Cold Rain & Snow intro that stretch until the first raindrops started down, then, "I married me a wife.....", and the cold rain poured down!

    And poor Dennis in only a t-shirt!

  • uncle_tripel
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    a day on the green...

    ...with some unbelievable dry sunny weather
    (82 degrees in these parts) in the mid-atlantic for late october,
    I'm putting on my boogin' shoes for
    oakland coliseum
    june 8th 1974

    can hardly wait to get started...

    PEACE for ALL!
    uncle_tripel

  • Oroborous
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    The sound

    Of thick air...

  • Oroborous
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    The sound

    Of thick air...

  • uncle_tripel
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    always...

    ...avoided the NR on recording
    and found very early the highs just got too muted for my ear,

    returning to some more 1978 this week:
    june 4th 1978
    at Campus Stadium, UCSB in Santa Barbara, Ca

    some more friends of the devils? lol...
    ...= the "on stage" harley davidson acceleration into--->NFA

    make LOVE, not war!

    PEACE!
    uncle_tripel

    PS: new avatar = mickey & jerry on 7/4/86 @ Rich Stadium

  • JimInMD
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    Noise Reduction and...

    I used Dolby for a brief blink of an eye when I first started copying tapes. Being young and naive, I thought who wants tape noise to come through on the recording, duh.. no brainer, I flipped the Dolby switch on my Nak and hit record. I just want to hear the music, no hiss.

    Very quickly reality set in. Was it Dolby A or Dolby B? Was the source tape recording using Dolby, if so, if you hit Dolby wouldn't it further compress the recording and further alter the sound, you can't play back using Dolby Squared, right? And what do you do in the car, in the boom box (yes.. we were just a few years out of 8 tracks when I started getting tapes). And who really flips or unflips the Dolby switch anyway based on how you think the recording was made. After all, were all these tapes properly notated every step of the way.

    So I quickly gave up on noise reduction, I had a good enough tape deck that I shouldn't be so worried about tape noise. I quit Dolby and never looked back (and never worried about pressing the Dolby button again).

    Just spit balling here, but my prejudices sometimes come to the surface when I hear a Dicks or Daves or Road Trips that sounds a bit muffled and I wonder if the particular Reel or Cassette or Betamax or whatever might have had a Dolby snafu baked in. To be clear, I have no proof this has ever occurred, I just wonder sometimes.

    I should emphasize Jeffrey Norman / David Glasser, etc. have gotten better at their jobs. So if there is any compression or noise reduction used anywhere along the way, they better at making this music sound as good as it possibly can, regardless of the sordid history of the source tapes. Thank you GD, Mockingbird Studios, the good folks and Plangent Processing and all the others that get this music to my front porch. Oh, and thank you tapers too!

  • Oroborous
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    Ooops, forgot

    I can’t say for sure off hand about everyone who recorded Dead and NR, but Betty was known for not using it, and if things are done right, no need.
    Nothing comes for free, so every time you do something, it will effect other things, sometimes negatively…a cost benefit trade off…perhaps just like BITD with high gen cassettes? To Dolby or not to Dolby, that is the question lol
    I always have tried not to do any permanent adjustments/fixes, preferring to try and fix some other way, eq etc, but nothing permanent that you can’t fix yer fix!

    Imho NR etc becomes more of a band aid for when things weren’t able to be right, or to help mask issues beyond repair, i.e., the ravages of time.
    Don’t think I’ve ever used any on a master recording?

    Onto rest of GDM soundtrack this afternoon…

  • 1stshow70878
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    Thx Oro

    So 15 ips or 30 ips would have been impractical for shows I imagine. Expense, changing reels too often, and as these were for listening by the band not studio use, etc. But what about them using noise reduction? I'm guessing no Dolby.
    As an aside, I seldom have my Dolby on when listening to cassettes even though most were recorded with it. Even factory tapes with Dolby seem less muffled without it and I'm not listening at thunderous levels (most of the time) where hiss is an issue.
    Skylabs, a top notch mid-western audio repairer, no longer works on certain categories of equipment: Consoles, quad receivers, linear tracking turntables, automatic turntables, and reel to reels. Just not worth it from a cost perspective for what those machines sell for vs. repair costs. There are still plenty of specialists who will and R-to-Rs are available restored at very reasonable prices but good luck finding pre-recorded tapes (old or new). Nobody makes them anymore. I was never tempted but my cassette guy sells tons of R-to-Rs for like $200-$300 fully restored, but they are more run of the mill Sony and not high end. And they sell fast!
    Thanks again and cheers bro

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Last 5:

Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
Pink Floyd - Peel/BBC 16 July 1970
Jimi Hendrix - NYE 1969 Fillmore East (some connection with England, I guess)
GD - Dave's Picks 2 7/31/74 (connection lost - wait I guess Sam Cutler was there)
Throwing Muses - Real Ramona (connection well and truly lost)

Next up:
Dave's Picks 20 12/9/81

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I think that’s right lol
Didn’t get the best listing in, but enough to appreciate more of this consistent 1990 greatness!

Oh yeah, 12/4 before, so another DHB wee!

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Jerryz voice is SHOT

Great music though

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Black Throated / Tom Thumbs / Deal
Rain > Eyes > Samba > Saint >
D/S > Wheel > Attics

especially that D/S > Wheel > Attics

Yep Oro - of course it still hurts ; )

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Yes tasty
Attics of My Life

Afternoon show

A 94 show I wish I could've attended is 6/26/94

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It’s weird, he sounds good on that sweet H/S/F, and the all of a sudden, somewhere in the first it’s fucked? Weird…

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I actually hit the skip button during Fire

His playing is fine

Who knows what kinds of germs touring bands are exposed to

In addition to THOSE

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12 3 79

My 16th birthday

90 miles southeast of where I was living

However, the bus was still a little over 2.5 years away from my stop

Edit: first two discs ok but not transcendent, at least this time around

Disc three? We will see...

Edit
Rest of show ok, not transcendent

Did not listen to 12/4/79 filler

Yet

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5/26/72
5/27/93
3/10/81
2/23/74

I haven't heard 5/26/72 all the way through for a long time

It'll be good to hear pre-hiatus GD again after 90% post-hiatus for the past year or so

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Re Jerry losing his voice - he was in England don't forget. Everybody has a cold here by November.

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Roy Buchanon "Livestock" 11/27/74
The Rolling Stones "Get yer ya-ya's out!" 11/27/69

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Listening to Bob F. Dylan

Highway 61 Revisited

Mixed feelings on BD movie

Hollywoodization is something I don't generally like

Bob is awesome