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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net
One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net
In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net
The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

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November 16, 2024 - 1:34pm

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simonrob

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Daverock - The age advantage.

I had the advantage of being 16 in 1969. I had got off to an early start when I saw the Beatles in 1963 when I was 10. I started mis-spending my youth at an early age.
November 16, 2024 - 1:02pm

#282

dmcvt

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MC Last 5-Zach

I remember Kick Out the Jams from high school, but by the time I left for college in 1970, it was Live Dead got me through the first semester, that and a slab of Afghani hash. Saw Zach Nugent play lastThursday night with Sunshine Garcia Becker and Cheryl Rucker vocals, plus a friend of his on various bass. Zach stuck with his 1958 Martin D-28 the whole time, played some great solo breaks, pretty much what one might expect from their tenure with JGB. Standout for me was Catfish John and Run for the Roses, Simple Twist of Fate had particular resonance. His parents were in the audience, he's more or less quasi local, has played in the area a bunch. A small jazz jam scheduled this evening. Last Five: Frisell Nashville, Coig Five, Return of Grievous Angel Tribute Various, Zappa YCDTOSA, vol. 4, Metheny Moondial.
November 16, 2024 - 12:20pm

#283

proudfoot

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Re MC5

For whatever reason I found them "meh" after hearing the album Kick Out The Jams once or twice

I see they were explosive for 1968. That is obvious.

Maybe if I listened again I might reconsider the "meh" thing
November 16, 2024 - 12:16pm

#284

proudfoot

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Love that last sentence Daverock

Only Gong I know is "YOU"

great stuff, that
November 16, 2024 - 10:36am

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daverock

Joined:
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the view from the North West

Simonrob - I think my post was a bit misleading. It was the music press - specifically the N.M.E. and even more specifically Mick Farren - hastily followed by Nick Kent and Charles Shaar Murray - who wrote off the big rock bands of the early 70's. I personally saw it very differently. I was 14-15 in 1972 when I first started going to gigs, and for me , seeing David Bowie, Black Sabbath and Hawkwind in particular was mind blowing. Life changingly so. But I was coming to it as someone very young who had no idea what had gone on before. The rock critics I mentioned, despite taking it upon themselves to represent the "the kids" were actually from a slightly older generation.

Manchester was a hot bed for punk - and as I liked The Stooges I gravitated towards it like a moth to a flame. The Electric Circus in some godforsaken area of the city was where it was all kicking off. Very different from seeing prog rock at The Free Trade Hall - home of the Halle Orchestra. I bought quite a few singles as well, charming little ditties with titles like "I'm Sick Of You" and "I'm A Fascist Dictator". A hoot at first - but quite a few punks seemed to adopt that world view for real. They all started looking the same, and were getting more and more antsy as they read in newspapers like The Sun that they were supposed to spit at bands and beat up hippies. As I looked like a member of Gong by 1977, I though it might be best if I moved on.
November 16, 2024 - 10:15am

#286

proudfoot

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British punk

I remember as a 6th grader seeing a write up about it in Time magazine with a photo of Johnny Rotten thinking "wha'..."

GBH
Crass
The Exploited

Not sure if those count as mid 70s
Prolly not

Exploited created a ditty that sums up my current world view very nicely

Early 80s but never outdated
November 16, 2024 - 9:56am

#287

Charlie3

Joined:
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El Michels Affair

Leon Michels is the driving force behind El Michels Affair and a lot of other new soul where he appears as a player or behind the scenes as a producer. Some of the later El Michels Affair albums have a more international music flair. If Leon Michels is involved in something I usually consider it worth at least checking out. If you dig that modern stuff with the authentic retro feel then definitely check out Big Crown Records, Daptone Records and Colemine Records, they all have a bunch of modern soul in their catalogues.
November 16, 2024 - 9:47am

#288

Charlie3

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Jazz

Haven't found a lot of new jazz, but a couple of acts that tend towards that direction are Dave Guy, his new album Ruby is some cool stuff, and The Olympians self-titled album is cool as well, sort of jazz with some soul roots. The Olympians album is really great from start to finish.
November 16, 2024 - 9:43am

#289

Charlie3

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Father Time

Father time remains undefeated.
November 16, 2024 - 9:36am

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simonrob

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Tyson vs Paul....

What were you expecting?

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Dave's Picks Vol. 52: The Downs at Santa Fe, Santa Fe, NM (9/11/83)

I remember the venue almost like and old fort with roses everywhere. We came to the site and Wavy Gravy showed us where to camp. Ken Kesey was here as well as a couple other big figures of the counterculture. I think because of Mickey's 40th. During drums a double rainbow appeared. Every time it looked like rain the band would stop and then come back even stronger from their breaks. I saw more outdoor shows in 83 than all the years combined. I have goose bumps even typing this from the memories. - xxuncle johnxx, Dead.net

One of the best memories I have were these 2 shows. During the break there was a lightning storm behind the stage, followed by a rainbow and then an awesome 2nd set. Morning Dew with a Cold Rain, Phil singing encore. Most of my tour buddies went home after Red Rocks and I tortured them with the Santa Fe tapes. Nothing beats the magic of a great GD outdoor show. "It all bleeds into one." - grateful hawaiian, Dead.net

In between sets, I remember it rained... and early on in the second set, there was an amazing rainbow directly over the stage behind the band. I don't believe they saw it, but I'm sure they heard about it. "Let It Grow" was awesome! - Johnny_A, Dead.net

The pot at the end of this rainbow is mighty fine, indeed. Our final Dave's Picks release for 2024 features the complete unreleased show from The Downs at Santa Fe, Sante Fe, NM, 9/11/83 (fun fact, it was Mickey's 40th birthday) with just a squidge of 9/10/83 to round things out. A true trader's treat, this one is solid all around from the lively first set featuring soon-to-be minted 80s classics like "Hell In A Bucket" and "West L.A. Fadeaway" to the return of "Help>Slip>Franklin's," the incredible 2nd set surprise of "Let It Grow," and adventurous takes on "He's Gone,""Wang Dang Doodle," and "Morning Dew." It's all well played, my friend, well played.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 52: SANTA FE, NM 9/11/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering.

And then there's . . .

(As the inimitable Firesign Theatre has pointed out):
"We're all bozos on this bus."

Rock on Doc! You're the best, brother! Onward.

The power of love…

…from us all to Mr&Mrs Doc!
Strength in numbers!

And Gobble,gobble, gobble to the rest of ya turkeys ; )
Buurrpp, opps, scusey : )

PT is still with us!

Now tthhaatt, is something to be thankful for!
Rest up bro, I’m sure you still have a long road ahead.
Good thing you have lots of GOGD and love to see you through!
Be Well amigo!

Out on the road today

I saw a dancing turtles sticker on an Audi

A little voice inside my head said

"Cool"

Doc and Mrs. Doc

Sending love and positive vibes to Doc and the Mrs.

May the light bring her Home and carry you, Doc, onward and upward!

31 days

anybody confirm if 31 days of december will be up this year. Anyone poke around to find?

Dennis

Yes, look at 30 days post minutes ago.
Cheers
(Edit: Ed is doing it again - 31 days of dead on instagram)

Comment Section

Is anyone else having difficulty opening the COMMENTS SECTION tab in DaP 2025 Subscription page?

Comment section

I'm not having trouble opening the COMMENTS SECTION tab in DaP 2025 Subscription page, rather it just doesn't work and cannot be opened. No "page not found" message or something similar, just nuthin'.

Pulled the trigger for King Diamond tomorrow night....

....you can take the person out of the metal, but you can't take the metal out of the person.

2025 Subscription Comments

The ‘early bird’ comments page still works, it’s only the full price version that’s missing!

Edit: You have to use the drop down menu because the front page link to early bird ordering doesn’t work anymore.

Greyfolded

VGUY72
The IMPREC kickstarter looks like it’s got over the target so you should be getting the album. I’ll stick to the CD I bought a long time ago.

Edit
There are still a few hours to go if anyone else feels like contributing.

Greyfolded

I don't know what IMPREC kickstarter is, but I would get this if it came out on vinyl.

Grayfolded indeed.

I can't believe y'all. . . Look what you made me do! Where's Dennis's wife's credit card when you need it?

So now its my turn to tempt anybody that's still on the fence (only 5 hours until the kickstarter ends):

kickstarter
*dot*
com/projects/imprec/grayfolded-3lp-the-grateful-dead-and-john-oswald

Dave Rock

The kickstarter is a way that the record label IMPREC are using to raise $40000 to repress Greyfolded on vinyl. Since they have hit that target the repress should happen. There are still a few hours left to take part in the pre-order process. Try typing greyfolded kickstarter into your choice of search engine and you should find it. It’s likely that once they do commit to the repress they will accept further orders on the IMPREC website. Their website is always worth a look since they produce a lot of interesting stuff. The release may also turn up on other sites but they don’t always.

Gaining traction....

....I knew I was at the right place.
Just recieved Susanna Hoffs (of The Bangles) - The Lost Record in the mail today. Crushes die hard, what can I say? Spinning now.

Greyfolded

Thanks Colin. I've never come across this sort of thing before. I've ticked my support for the release, so I think I've ordered a copy, should it be come out. Looks very attractive.
I got a Black Friday release delivered earlier today - a vinyl release of Tangerine Dream live in Glasgow 11/20/74.

Greyfolded

Now that's a CD I havent heard in long time

Next road trip

Greyfolded

Now that's a CD I havent heard in long time

Next road trip

You could almost think

That you're postin' double

Doc

PMs back at you.
Cheers

"You're all set"....

....the kickstarter was successful!
Thanks for the assistance.
Cool shit.
Then they link other projects that are in the works.
Cool.
I find happiness where I can find it.

How's everyone doing?

What's new in Dead land, and beyond?

When do we find out what the next Dave's Picks is going to be?

Announcements

I have been subscribing for a few years now and I think I recall that the 2nd quarterly release {#54 with bonus disc} announcements come with the December online newsletter. That will be the second week in December? If I'm wrong someone will correct my statement.

Anyways,.... I used that nationwide corporate holiday discount on one of them Earth Day shirts I had been eyeing on for awhile now, since April. My only complaint is that the one I bought should've been a desert sage green to go with the Joshua Tree.

#54 Announcement

My, admittedly faulty, memory says that the second release is announced just before the subscription window closes. Probably in December.
Speaking of faulty memory I recently bought a deck to play my very old vinyl. It was either that or give it away. I dug out a Sarah Ogun Gunning album expecting it to have a version of ‘I am a Union Woman’ on it. If I did bet I’d have thought it was a sure thing. Of course, it didn’t. It did have ‘ I hate the Capitalist System’ though. Searching my memory I realised the track I expected was on a Ewan MaColl and Peggy Seeger album but the years have created false equivalences.

54

I'm guessing a 69 with a Dark Star Suite, the bonus being a cobbled together portion of a neighboring show.

31 Days?

Howdy, anyone know where the download links are posted on Instagram for 31 Days? Peace!

Thanks All

That makes sense. After the Early Bird special ends, but while you can still order the subscription.

Otherwise, why announce it if not to entice subscriptions. So sometime in the next few weeks.

I have a good feeling about 54. '69 would be fine, but I'm hoping '73. I guess we'll see.

Jazz Tonight

Rudy Van Gelder is to Jazz what Betty Cantor-Jackson is to The Grateful Dead.

Whispers on the Breeze

Just a trippy title is all no more there, I have no insider information here, just speculations. Though by my calculations there is a strong possibility that for 2025 we may see both a release from 1969 & 1973. If not `69 then maybe autumn '70? That era I am still hazy on but think one is coming from there either way. Banana Box Boogie on New Speedways!

Vinyl..

Any info on what the next Daves Vinyl will be.. ? (fingers crossed for vol. 8..)

Who else is gonna bring you a broken arrow

If the "whispers on the breeze" thing is meant to be an actual clue, the only song I can think of that it could be a reference to is Broken Arrow. Which according to the Internet was first played by the GD on 2.23.93 at the Oakland Coliseum in a show that featured Ornette Coleman on four songs. I would think Ornette's presence complicates the legalities involved, but I suppose if Dave was determined to break into the Vince era, he could do worse than to put that one out.

I'd sure rather have some '69, or '73. But it's not up to me, now is it?

In any case, the second title in each year's subscription series usually gets announced shortly after the 'early bird' discount expires. So pretty, pretty soon.

Last five!

Flaming Lips: Clouds Taste Metallic
Jefferson Airplane: Volunteers
GOGD: Reckoning
Karajan/BPO: Mahler 9
Joe Henderson: Power to the People

Re: Ornette

I bet the Coleman estate would have no problem authorizing Dave & Co. to release the 93 show he sat in on. It would give them a little scratch (not much), but more importantly would broaden his legacy and expose more people to his music.

Of course, nobody knows for sure but the stakeholders of each group.

#54.

10/31/70 plus filler.. The tapes are in the vault and they sound great!

#54

54, is that how many inches of snow fell in Buffalo OB?

Congrats on the big win.

Two to three weeks to go until announcement.

54" in Buffalo

Shows played in Buffalo:

03/17/70- Kleinhans Music Hall - Buffalo, NY
03/31/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
09/26/73- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
05/09/77- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
01/20/79- Shea's Theater - Buffalo, NY
11/09/79- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
09/26/81- War Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY
07/04/86- Rich Stadium - Buffalo, NY

The 77 show has been released. This can only mean the soundboard for 1/20/79 has turned up and we are finally going to get one of the 79 Dark Stars cleaned up and Normanized.

That would be something...

HA!

You guys are funny ; )
That would be something…but we only whisper about such things very late at night…

77, 89, and p/o 11/1/79 are out.
wish they’d done all of 11/1.

Don’t forget Rich 90, 92 & 93.

Wouldn’t Kleinhans be something!!! The holy grail?
3/31/73, 7/16/90, and mos def 9/26/81 are worthy!
9/26/73 is ok, but not the “horn” show I’d pick.

Fun game though, unless your a niners fan. Its been unfortunately a frustrating year for them!
Almost makes me miss it back in the tundra…not really lol,
but I used to live 3-4 miles from there BITD.
VIKS are fun too, but I don’t think my heart could take it if I wasn’t once removed lol
They fortunately usually pull it off, but it can be hard to watch lol

Edit: or Hell, I’d even take 1/10/79 and a good chunk of set 2 from 1/20/79 on a for disc, if it got it out, but alas, don’t think I’ll ever get any 1/20 : (

54, untouched era

10-31-91
Filler and bonus disc 11-3-91.

Of course, there’s a lot of guests between those two shows that would have to agree to the release:
Ken (I suspect that he would agree)
Gary
Popper
Young
Fogerty
Baez

Getting all those legalities worked out would probably be harder than getting the ABB stakeholders to agree to a release.
But that did finally happen with 6-10-73.
So, an alternate 54 + bonus disc is 7-27,28-73. HendrixFreak is due.

Great 80s picks this year !

I have really enjoyed this release. Had heard about Santa Fe 83 for long time but never listened to them. Great show. The Althea and He’s Gone are two highlights for me. I love a He’s Gone with an outro jam. The filler is also killer on this. Really nice !
I was very happy with my subscription this year. Last years shows didn’t do it as well for me. I really enjoyed the Frost 85 set. Another show I had never heard. Lots of highlights there. Love a good Crazy Fingers.
The DP series has been really heavy on 77 and 71 but I enjoyed those shows this year also. I liked this years 77 shows. Lots of great music there. Listening recently to the 71 release and I really enjoy the third disc from Pittsburgh. Solid year. Thank you Dave and Company!
I subscribed at early bird for next year. I’m stoked on the 76 release - first Dave’s from Ohio ?? So many great shows there…
I hope others here are correct. I would love a 69 release for the second show this year. My wish would be two dark stars and one love light and not the other way around. LOL
Hope you all are well. Keep the faith. Music heals. Turn it up!

Ditto on your post, Estimated Prof

I also enjoyed this year's selections - including disc 2 of Scranton and Especially disc 3 from Pittsburgh + the Frost shows and Santa Fe ... I'm subscribed again so as not to miss the bonus disc in this 'special' year. Yes, hoping for some '69 or, with luck, some late '70 goodness! Bring it, Dave!!! (Please and Thank you)

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