Freak de Hendrix
Your post said Cornell ‘78.
I suspected you meant ‘77.
Currently listening to 2-4-69 sbd.gen1.remaster.bear.daniel.
I supplement the gaps in the official releases with torrents.
For those who want ‘67-‘69 released sooner rather than later I fully support that notion.
But the torrents make all the warts visible, and if what’s in the Vault isn’t significantly better sonically, or cuts and splices-wise, then I think that some people will be disappointed.
Dave knows what’s in the Vault, so stop holding out on us Dave and release some Grease.
The Vaults, steaming, torrents etc
I never listen to stuff like that. I wouldn't if they were giving it away.
Phish nominated for the R&R HOF....
....not sure if that is good or bad.
So was....Mariah Carey??
Edit. New residency at Sphere. Drum roll please 🥁. The Backstreet Boys?
yes, release the 'grease'
Thanks Icecrmnkd, my bad. All the years combine and melt into a ... poor memory!
If Cornell is '77 then just convert my comments to all the hot '77 shows I attended, from April to October, (couple at the Capitol, couple at the Palladium, Englishtown, Denver). And all the hot shows I didn't attend but which created some very rocking tapes. I probably have enough '77 now (until the next one..)
One specific: I was never a fan of the resurrection of St. Stephen, though I enjoyed the slow bridge with Donna doing her finest singing.
Now looking forward to Blues for Allah 50th -- hope they do something of value like include outtakes or demos -- plus, presumably the returned Betty board of 6-17-75, which I'm fond of after getting a reel-to-reel audience tape that fall. (Converted to cassette, so I've had a 3rd gen all these 50 years.) A Betty Bd of that fresh, energetic reading of the BfA material plus rockers will be most welcome. Not expecting much (in my own tastes) for the last two DPs of the year.
Then the "commensurate" 60th box. Seems like for hype/sales benefits they'd want to announce that a few months ahead of delivery, but we're a loooong way from spring.
As for future DPs, they've kinda exhausted '77 and '74. A sure seller would a fall '72 box or individual releases. I'm guessing '66-68 must be part of the 60th box, I just hope they include most of what's left or the best of it. I think '69 probably has some inventory in the Vault, we know '70 is rare, so '71, '72, '73 still have much to release, and '76, '79.
The 1980-87 era is hit or miss for me. I caught some good shows in that period (attended every GD show at Red Rocks, whoo hoo) and there were some hot ones, good ones and forgettable ones. I stopped going to GD shows after an odyssey of three nights at the Rocks, two day shows in Telluride in '87. Just lost interest as Jer petered out and I was "over" the "scene". (I had turned 30!) But caught Soldier Field in '91 and two shows in Albany in '92 and that was all she wrote.
Now I'm a get-off-my-lawn-er and only go to two big shows per year, being TTB at the Rocks. Otherwise, due to large crowd aversion and $$, I just go to local taverns where my friends play blues -- no cover, pop in anytime, leave when ya want. Etc.
Box speculation welcome... are they shooting past the Rhino box standard of 20 discs? Will they pack in a couple shows each from 66, 67, 68? 1995 (cringe-y), though some say there's gold in them thar hills.
Crispy HF...
Another idea..
that's been floated before is to identify the "early" Vault releases that would benefit from a new transfer and Plangent/Normanization to beat the original version. As well as considering a re-release of few choice sets (looking at you Fillmore West '69).
But they gotta be thinking in terms of unit sales when I only need one unit. (There's a Zappa song in there somewhere...)
Ta ta!
releases
I skipped subscription this year and am going to a-la-carte it for the first time since DaP vol. 9. Glad I skipped this one, 76 is hit or miss for me and this one sounds like a miss for me. Looking forward to Baltimore 73 though.
Box set for the 60th. I like the idea of a good representation of eras and not necessarily a mega-box with a show from each year. For the early era, please put out a 2-disc set of 3/18/67 Winterland and what is attributed as 5/5/67 Fillmore. I had that 5/5/67 as tape filler back in the day and the Golden Road, New Potato and Alligator are simply fantastic primal Good Ol' Grateful Dead. Some other 'different' shows would be nice-- Amsterdam 81 comes to mind. I would also love to see some more video cleaned up and released officially-- Rockpalast Germany, summer 89 (Alpine finally please). Would be a nice extra in a box set.
60s for 60th
I think the 60th anniversary could provide a great opportunity to focus on the 60's. Maybe the reason they have mostly ignored this decade in Daves Picks is so they could go all out for the 60th anniversary box set. It has a nice alliterative feel to it, and, as they seem to want to impress with the packaging, they could surely produce some blinding looking material to complement the innards.
60s for 60th - Daverock
Agree, that'd be logical.
Would bet on it
G.
Idea!
A traveling exhibit of '60s rock poster art came through Denver maybe 8-10 years ago. There were associated artifacts. Like a large sheet of blotter festooned with repeating cartoon characters.
Realistically, 50 year old lysergic would be worthless. However, in my fleeting fantasy, I would smash the glass and grab that bad boy. So... why not include at least a four-way blotter with every box set this year? Surely someone in Calif is still mixing up the medicine??
And, to repeat the words of a wise man: Release the Grease!
Fiddy Tree
Listened to the whole show on a long flight to Vegas. I thought the sound was really good after they fixed things post-Promised Land. First set is decent, but unremarkable. The second set was up and down tempo-wise, from start to finish. Things never really got revved up. The highlight for me was the TOO>SB>TOO.
All in all a decent show, but I don’t see myself coming back to it very often.
The filler material will be nice to complete the 5/4/77 show.
Not selling out
As discussed a few weeks ago, the new tax laws for selling stuff on the internet seemed to stymie sales a bit as resellers stopped buying.
Some people stopped subscribing too.
4-13-71
11-20-71
9-9-72
Are not sold out yet which implies that those years are not as popular as some believe.
A 68-69 DaP might go faster but not so sure because 11-2/12-26-69 was available for a while.
A 68-69 Box with 12,000 copies would probably go fast though.
Secret code?
Why are some of the numbers in my previous post red?
Edit: on my screen they appear fuscia.
Enjoying 53
I enjoyed this show over this past weekend. I like the 76 shows in general. I first put this one on in my car and the sound wasn’t working for me, but it was much better on my home system. Usually they sound great in the car too. LOL Anyhow. Sure, not a mind blower, but I think it’s a nicely played show. I really enjoyed the whole second set. Great versions of all the standalone tunes before the bigger jam. Lots to like.
Typing this, I want to listen to it all again!
I found the show really soothing overall. Seriously. Some sweet sonic honey in these troubling times.
I did not pick up the 76 box when it came out and have regretted that. Thinking that I will try to spring for the record store day vinyl this year.
Hope y’all are well. Keep listening to the music play.
many good shows in 76
The june box set and Oakland Day on the green (Dick 33), are my favourite. there are 2 other show in Passaic & Boston that would have fit the box. june 76 & may 77 are amongst thebest boxes ever, for sound quality, art & phisycally 5 shows is just perfect. Dick 20 landover is likely the show I listen most, due to the few shows available at this time. it still got 2 excellent Dancin', but can't match D33. Hope you enjoy the new show happy subscribers. I made a list of early shows from 66 to 70 as many of you ask for 6, there is not much but quite a bit. Maybe i miss one or 2?
Frisco 66 30Trips-LA67 30Trips-Valentine day 68 RT- Dick 22 lake tahoe 68- Shrine 68 2from the vault-6 bekerley 68 30Trips-Fillmore east 69/69 Vallejo 30Trips-complete Fillmore west69-3 shows- Dick26 Chicago 69- Dav43 frisco dallas -dick16 fillmore nov69- Dave 10 Thelma 69- Dave 6 frisco 69 -RT 69 Pow wow- Dav 6 st louis 70 - Dave 30 70 fillmore east - Dave 19 70 Honolulu - dick4 70 feb Fillmore east - 70 Frisco 30Trips - Dick8 70 Bighampton -RT fillmore east may70
Now I expect a bit more of the eighties, The msg Box is also very good, I got it digitally.
There are some good JGB shows in 84 for the still debutant ultimate sextet and unusual setlists.
take care.
1966
Good list, Sheik. The only one that comes to mind that is not on your list is Vancouver 7/29/66, with bonus cuts from 7/30/66. I think this came out originally as a bonus disc with the Anniversary edition of the first album - but it also came out on vinyl as a RSD release.
Now I think of it, there are a few more that have come out from 1966. One called "Rare Cuts and Oddities" from different sources, and the second disc in The Golden Road box set, which featured shows from unknown destination. There are also the ancient albums "Historic" and Vintage Dead".
In a way, shows from 1966 seem to me more characteristic of The Warlocks than The Dead. They didn't quite "become" The Dead until 1967. Still very interesting though
3/18/67 , Official release please.
Killer show, has a version of The Golden Road on it. This show is a must release.
Don't see anywhere....
Garcia is releasing volume 2 & 3 of Bare Bones on vinyl.
I don't think 2 & 3 have ever been released in vinyl only cd.
I have 1 on vinyl and 1,2,&3 in the cd package.
Just ordered 2&3 in vinyl,,, I hope I don't have already,,,, couldn't find on shelf, so must be new!
Sheik list errata
oups! and the download serie 68-Carousel - 69-St Louis - 70-Portland 70-Family dog; This was a short serie of recording not good rnough to transfer. Min thing, There is the first recording of 88, rare year in the catalog, and Rochester 71, may Keith Godchaux begining with the band; Gotta check...
60s for 60
Love that concept for the 60th anniversary box. Lots of great primal stuff to release, especially in 1969. It would be a way to get the limited number of recordings from 67 and 68 out along with primo still unreleased selections from 1969. Brilliant...
60th Anniversary Box Set possibilities
An all 1960s box set would be very cool, hopefully they will include 10/31/69 & 11/15/69, two killer shows. A complete Winter land Oct 1974 release with audio and video would be cool. A complete Greek Theatre box set , 1981-1989 would be nice. A Fillmore East/Fillmore West box would be very nice. The possibilities are endless.
One Greek Released So Far
October 20th 1968 on 30 Trips.
Greeks and Frost were mostly omitted until the 85 Frost shows were released. I have not listened to all the Greek shows so I cannot comment on the sound quality of each and every one. Most of them are cassette masters. The 87 shows were hot but the tapes sound like shit. I think 81 has recording issues as well.. but 88 for example sounds pretty good as does 89. Many of these shows sound quite good.
I have to think they are saving them for a reason.
As for 3/18/67, well.. we can dream can't we? I'd love to see more really old GD get released soon/next.
Gyros are one of my favorite foods....
....need more Greek. Extra tzatziki please.
10/2/76
While it's nice to have this show, I would have preferred an actual release of 5/4/77. I appreciate the fact that between the tracks included on a previous DP, Bonus Disc, and this one, most of the show is available but I would've cherry-picked Riverfront instead. The Palladium show is superior all around.
download serie and vanishing datas
first, on Downlad serie 03, rochester 71-10-26, keith is on the panio "du jour", and the piano has been drinking! it doesn't seem correctly tune (Bertha)
As I return to the download serie, I realise I lost 70 % of the songs. "Nothing Inscripted" for Windows, so I tried to read them with the brand new cd reader Rotel 11. I loaded Charlotte 73, and then "Loading... "but nothing happens until I realised it was impossible to get the cd rom out, well looking for the tools and trying to see what happens in the machine!
i eventually caught the cd rom off, and fix everything before trying to succesfully read something else.
Just to say, I already lost DP36 (4CD) make a new download at Qobuz, this one is so goooood.
and i give up for this serie, wich is not the most interesting but however Charlotte 73, palladium 77, Passaic 76.
does anybody knows the best way to save datas? I heard, on hard ware disk, it is possible to lose everything, and i was told on usb key (256GO) you can recuperate evreything?
like you may know the dead fountain runs big, but not free &and easy.
Retread or Re-hash
6/30/85 Shakedown awesome. Is that the one with James Brown saying "It's got to be funky." Again a real long time since a listen. I was in a hotel somewhere and recorded the first minute or two from the audience and then 1/2 second before they start merged in the board.
Migraines and stuff never had one. I do take magnesium daily for decades now. I take it for the relaxing effect at night before I go to sleep. That and some melatonin. Usually sleep great.
Dick's #5 still one of my favorites. It was first shown with the "new" PA system. This was a system designed by Meyer Sound (founded 1979) and then configured by Ultrasound (founded 1978). For the first time two GD spinoff companies were working together to begin the next generation of sound reinforcement post WoS. Know most here know that already. 2 Knows dont make a right.
That Shakedown Rips
... and is a great example of what they sounded like - how pure and all-encompassing the sound was - from on the floor in '85. While I did not get to that (Worcester) show, a buddy of mine did - and fairly soon afterwards he had a crispy copy of it, complete with the aud/board 'merge'.
(edit: Five) days later, it was my turn (at Byrne) with 1/2 Step > Rider to open the 2nd set ... blown away.
YES! to 3-18-67
Without doing any research (i.e., checking my facts) I think 3/18/67 might be from a key transitional period -- post '66 garage-Dead and pre-Anthem setlists that I think start in the fall. Plus, what's been released is pretty Greasy.
JimInMD -- you may prefer 3/18/87, but I'm sticking with 3/18/67................
The joke's on me, however, as I passed on the Devils box due to fear of Bobby's slide. Turns out, he didn't start until after dates in the box. So today I checked my '78 inventory. Hmm, why yes, I could use another eight shows, why not? Ordered.
Now, let's "March" to the BfA 50th announcement. For the box, (2) '66 discs, (2) 67 discs, (4) 68 discs, (8) 69 discs and another (8) discs from 70, 71. Call it The Sixties (and more). a) I'm all for a giant box it covers the years I want (ha ha), and b) I'd be a terrible marketer.
Drum roll, please.
2/13/70 & 2/14/70 , 2/14/68. All time classics.
These shows never get old, they are all on the Grateful Dead top ten of all-time shows. I would like it if they would put out 2/13 & 14/70 in complete order as they were played, and remastered. Happy Valentines Day everyone.
I Know There Are Surely Licensing Issues
... But 2.11.70 would be essential to get as well - if at all possible - in any February '70 Fillmore box/release.
Pretty please DL!
I Concur!
Think that is the first time I ever typed, or thought of, much less spoken.
Big proponent to get as much early stuff out as possible. Another generation down the road and it will all be streamed digital monthly access.
So I say feed us now. Give artists involved more bites at the apple now.
Just hope the box will be undeniable.
HF 3/18/87
Ha.. that was an awkward typo.
As for the 87 Greeks, these were the only Greeks I was able to attend. Typical for the period, the Gimme Some Lovin' All Along the Watchtower seems to be my most vivid memory as it was the first Watchtower.
Healy decided to let the audience all-in his Ultramix masters that year, and by all in I think let too many people into the room. I think some of those audience forward ultramixes are a low point in their recordings and 87 seems to be the year this is most prominent. The Hartford 87 Dave's Picks comes to mind..
So to the person who hasn't listened to the 87 Greeks (Proudfoot???). They'll still be there when you have time, decent shows. For whatever reason, the 88 Greeks sound much better and then there's 89. I think I like the earlier years best, perhaps that's for the better.
Congrats dvikes and Oro for leading the charge and putting our best foot forward
dave totally rocks
That's daverock, not DL... For his "sizzling" quote of the week on a sonic phenom we all have dealt with:
"...the guy who recorded it must have been frying some sausages next to the microphone."
Hats off! And keep up the good work, gentlemen!
HF
Dave & 3/18/67
My copy of this show seems very nice,,,,, if you need a copy.
Shake Your Bones & Backups
I can help with missing data.
Backups are the MOST important part of a digital collection. I have mine backed up with copies outside my house!
25 years of working on it. The first bunch of years I lost everything a couple of times, learned my lesson.
If you need me I'm here.
New Book?
While looking up "The Snarling Trumpet" I came across "The Economic History of The Grateful Dead: A look inside the financial records of America's biggest 20th century touring act" a "wonky" statistical tome that dives into how the GD became the band that made more money touring than any other band, $400 million in 30 years. Other bands have made more in individual tours than a typical GD tour but with 2400 shows the Dead topped them all. Author David Davis attended 82 shows. The review said since Deadheads are wildly into statistics, "like baseball fans", they thought there would be an audience for this.
Cheers