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    Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition

    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings -
    All The Music Edition

    Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

    We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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  • antonjo
    13 years ago
    geez louise
    Hal, I'm quite aware of what I said (paging up works just fine) ~ and it was about the perceived exclusivity (i.e., urgency) of the CHANCE for the music. Not the exclusive club of heads who have boxes vs. those with no stars on thars. And I stand by it. (Except for the word "everyone;" my apologies on that). I don't need it pointed out to me that I've got a unique item; I already know that, I've got box # 0155/7200. Irrelevant to my point. And you've stated yours. Our perceptions were different. Can we just agree to disagree? I think we've wasted enough ink on this. Thanks.
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    Hal_M
    13 years ago
    Apologies, Tony
    Didn't mean to misrepresent you. I was responding to your comments: "However, it's not the truth of the situation that the exclusivity of the complete E72 music was not strongly implied. You don't ask heads to raid their grandmother's cookie jar to get the steamer trunk & books (much as I love them). No previous box of shows (Fillmore West, Winterland 73, Winterland 77, Hampton 89) has EVER been followed with individual show releases. Even the official blurb still on this site's homepage says the individual show offerings are the result of the mob AFTER THE FACT....and I quote: "You clamored. Your cried. You called so loudly for single shows....we had no choice but to listen." "So please don't insult our intelligence by claiming the legal loophole that it was never explicitly stated that the music wouldn't be exclusive to the box. Everyone thought maybe the box would be followed by a comp (which it was ~ Europe 72 II) and/or perhaps a few hand-picked shows. Not that every show would be available. "Whether intended as such or not (and I don't think it was), the original limited box set advert was most certainly false advertising." I know you are not one of those random complainers and I certainly do not want to take away your right to feel somewhat misled (which it seems is what you are feeling. I apologize in advance if I'm misinterpreting that). I had a different interpretation and expectation of what would or would not happen with this release. That's all. You claimed "Everyone thought maybe the box would be followed by a comp (which it was ~ Europe 72 II) and/or perhaps a few hand-picked shows. Not that every show would be available." But that was not my expectation. So it wasn't everyone. But I respect that you felt this way, and some others did as well. I was merely trying to point out that what was offered was still unique. Still "limited" and not currently available as individual releases of the whole tour. I know that does seem to matter to some. And I respect that. It wasn't meant as a slight against you, but simply a response to what you had said. Again, if I misunderstood or misrepresented your comments, my apologies. It simply never occurred to me that they might not eventually release these shows individually. They just did it sooner than I would have anticipated. But I always assumed it was an eventual natural progression based on demand and on the time and effort that went into remastering them. And the reality that so many people who would like to buy this music would not be able to afford it all at once. It's done with Blu-ray and DVD releases all the time, so I guess I'm used to that marketing strategy. And am usually thankful for it as I'm often not the guy who cares about the swag, but just wants the movie or music. So I usually wait for the "bare bones" editions to be announced. In this case, however, I wanted the whole shebang :)
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    stepineden72
    13 years ago
    Missing Posts Box
    Can someone tell me where to order the Missing Posts Box Set. I've looked everywhere. Don't tell me that the order site is crashing already. I want in on this and don't want to go thru what I went thru on the E'72 Box. Any help would be appreciated.
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Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings -
All The Music Edition

Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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send me a pm with your emails and I'll see if I can put you in touch with the right person.
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anyone's seen the RW 'the wall' tour, any comments?
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Yeah we caught the show in Denver back in November. It was quite possibly the coolest thing I have ever seen. I was pretty much completely blown away. I highly recommend dropping the cash to check it out, it's expensive but well worth it. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I'm in the same situation - my credit card expires before September, so I used my debit card. New credit card comes next month. I got in touch with customer services, asking if I could switch to the new credit card when it arrived, and they said - no problem. Probably worth checking all the same. I've kept the email regarding this just in case, which reads... "Hello Jeremy, We would be happy to change the card you used with your order. Please give us a call as soon as you get the new card and we will change it."
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they should have a process in place to deal with it at this point, but if you run into issues lemme know.
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I saw The Wall when Roger came to San Jose and the show was AWESOME! First class production. If he comes to your area go see it.
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thanks for the feeback, happy to hear the show is great so can't wait. I'm lucky enough to have tickets for two nights on may11 and 15th, blocks 101 and 112 ~ actually 'may' sell the 15th sunday show 2x tix ~ great seats, any fellow travler 'head' intersted that may be in the area? Rog is filming all shows 'with possible D Gilmour suprise ~ you never know. Simply I need the extra cash..digging my pockets to pay off this massive release in Sept. keep on truckin'
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hey folks, just asking I have'nt seen many posts for a while, are people going through a winter thawing session?
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My response from dead.net customer service (3 different people on different days) and Rhino (I was directed by customer service to contact Rhino) was the exact opposite. Every person I talked to said almost the exact same thing - "We can't make changes to credit card orders until it is closer to the release date". No one could tell me exactly when that would be - somewhere between July and August is what I was told. I would be interested to know what they say if you would call them right now... When did you talk to customer service? Recently? Sorry to bombard you with questions by the way! I just find this to be ridiculous on many levels especially if you have talked with them very recently. I don't mean to make trouble but none of this makes sense. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I called last week and the customer rep told me that they will be sending emails in August to verify the info regarding credit cards. At that time they (us buyers) would be free to change cards.
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22 shows total 21 shows of 3CD = 63 discs. 4.21 is 1CD= 8 CD's remain Sum= probable 8 shows are 4CD, 4.14 5.3 5.4 5.10 5.11 5.23 5.25 5.26 Does this look right? P.S. Saw RW The Wall in October and thought it was maybe the best presented concerts I have ever seen. If anyones interested go to dime torrents for a dvd copy of the show.There are multiple sources all very good.
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I just want to put in my two cents' worth to say that I hope that the e-mail announcing the final purchase confirmation date gives everybody enough advance notice to ensure that they can make sure there are available funds in their credit or debit account on the date that it will be charged for the set. With 7,200 LARGE packages to ship, not counting the Music-Only sets, shipping is probably going to take several days to complete. I see that many people who ordered used a debit card rather than a credit card, and for their sake it would be good to have their accounts charged quickly so that they don't inadvertently spend the box set money before it gets officially pulled (on pre-orders of smaller things like Road Trips sets--not the subscription, but the actual sets--pre-payments are not actually charged to cards until the shipping date, and that's probably not a good thing here). Ideally, the final order should have two purchaser options available: (1) charge the payment immediately, and (2) do not charge account until set is shipped. Option 1 is ideal for debit users, who do not pay interest on the charge; option 2 is ideal for credit users, who will pay interest if the credit card is not paid off in full within the (if any) grace period. For those of you following the Roger Waters/The Wall sub-thread, Roger's tour is currently in Europe, with dates there through early summer. His official site does not have any confirmed tour dates past July 7 (Milan, Italy), and I have not heard any substantiated rumors of a second U. S. tour. There will be an DVD/CD release, based on performances culled from the five nights at the O2 Arena in London, all five nights of which will be professionally filmed. For those of you who access Dime for live recordings, by far the best audience video (I've seen several) is from the 2010-09-20 show in Chicago (available in both a single disc recordable DVD-DL version and a two-disc recordable DVD version; no differences between them in quality, merely the convenience of not having to change DVDs by having everything on one disc, and slightly better compatibility with some older DVD players, some of which don't like recordable DVD-DL discs). Sound quality on the 2010-09-20 show is excellent, too. As good as that tour was (based on the DVD and on several different audio recordings I've heard), I'm glad I chose not to go, because two decent seats (at list price $271 each--OUCH!) for any of the Los Angeles or Anaheim shows would have made it impossible to buy the Europe '72 box. However, when Roger releases the official DVD and CD set I'm going to buy it, and if there are any rumors of a second run through the USA, I'll pre-stock my piggy bank with enough cash to cover the price of two tickets. I will never complain about ticket prices for The Dead or Furthur--at only $90 for The Dead in '09 and average prices of about $50 - 60 for Furthur, Waters' tickets really put things in perspective!
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It seems dangerous to have to wait all the way until August for them to update credit card info. Why is this so hard?? It shouldn't be this hard to pay for stuff you know?? It's $$ take it for God's sake! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Yea I just want them to take the cash, so then I'll know I'm really getting it. Cash can be paid off whenever, if you paid by credit card, sooner the better. snark ~ sweet dude, you sound like a Floydian, anyways nice info on 'The wall', dvd's thanks. never know what people may say discussing another band on another's page. That's the cool thing about the Dead, cool people mainly. Spring has arrived, I think ~ and a nice warm summer will be a good omen to this release, can't wait.
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For those DeadHeads unable to fork over the full $450, am I to believe, as it should be, that the disks will be made available singularly as well at a later date?
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For all who can't quite afford to chunk down $450 right now, am I to assume, hopefully correctly, that these Europe '72 discs will be available singularly in the near future?
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When you assume, you make an ASS out U & ME ! F.U. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On 72 Discs! ????~?¤??????? The Music Never Stops ! ???????¤?~????
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Despite the apparent demand to make individual shows available for purchase, there has been no indication that is even a possibility.
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If by "available singularly" we mean each and every show, sold as individual 3-disc releases, then no. I'll go out on a limb and say no way that's going to happen. The economics are horrible. They're going to assume, rightly I think, that this release kills the Europe goose -- most of the potential sales for any future show release will have already been cannibalized by this release. Not to say they mightn't release *some* shows, but probably fewer than a handful, given what's already available from the period. It's also true that as awesome as this release is, what was already available is more than a fair portion of the finest gems from the tour. And so, if this all works out for TPTB (i.e., there are profits, profits, profits), we can look forward to many more releases of greatly desired and/or unexpected stuff from OTHER tours and eras. Here's to 'em!!!!
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...that the Grateful Dead may not release the shows individually, as I thought that was the original intent of the Vault. So to paraphrase John Lennon, if all those in front will just rattle your jewelry, the rest of us will know where to throw our bones. Byrd
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I'd be shocked (SHOCKED, I tell ya) if they didn't sell individual shows. Just like I would have been shocked if they hadn't issued anything beyond the first 7200 boxes. There is nothing in their writeups to suggest that this is the only way to ever get any of the music. Once they have remastered these 22 shows, why oh why would they not sell them individually? Just like they sold the remastered studio stuff individually after they came out with the Golden Road and Beyond Description boxes. They won't announce it yet, since they want people to pony up for the whole thing (which I did) rather than cherry pick a show or two. But they damn sure aren't going to forgo a big revenue stream when they have already done the work to ready these shows for sale. And maybe you will have to wait until the fever breaks after the boxes ship, but they will at some point in the not too distant future sell these as either individual shows or at worst, as runs. Mark my words.
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Oh, and then when they sell a 3 disc show for more than 3/72 of the cost of the box or Music Only Edition, you can come here and listen to all the whining. ;-)
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Everybody connected with this Rhino project is going nuts trying to put it together for a ship deadline. I, for one, would wish they would take their time and get it all right from the liner notes to the perfectly sleeved discs.

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I hope you realize that not all of us who are plunking down for this are "rattling our jewelry." We're doing what we have to to obtain this because we want to enjoy these shows ~ it doesn't mean we have jewelry to rattle. I for one will be quite annoyed if they release them all individually, because if I thought they were going to do that I for one wouldn't have bought the entire box, but rather the four or five shows (in addition to Rockin' the Rhein, which I already have) that I'd most be interested in. Puh-LEASE don't start separating the Heads into classes ~ those that can afford, and those that can't. This release was put out there and everyone can get the music. No, Chiboy, I won't whine if they put out a three or a five-disc best of for 3/72nd of the cost. I think it would be great, actually. But all 22 shows? You betcha I'd be annoyed. And I'm not apologizing for that.

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...I don't want to hear someone telling me to rattle my jewelry because I'm willing to pay to obtain something that costs what it costs. Rattle your bones somewhere else, one thing I'm NOT buying is an attempt to shame the community when there's nothing to be ashamed of here. Well I remember the heads back in the day who didn't want to pay for tickets. One gave my buddy a hard time for continuing to seek a trade for the next city's show, rather than GIVING this guy his extra ticket. The guy got positively livid. Like my buddy, who'd PAID for the ticket, didn't have a right to trade it while a poor, forlorn head ~ who cared nothing for HIS situation and was treating him like dog$h!t ~ needed it. How about the "Where's My Miracle?" signs for shows that weren't even sold out? Um, right over there, it's called the BOX OFFICE. But forbid you'd actually have to pay $15 for it, which is all they cost in those days. Sorry, I don't feel guilty about enjoying music that I paid for. And because I paid for it, I have a right to enjoy the fruits of it. Bottom line.
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I'm loving the Aprils Fools joke from the Hampton Coliseum 'One More Saturday Night' opener on the Friday night ~ I don't recall the Grateful Dead doing that ?

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I did see the GD do it on a Friday once, July 10th '87 but it wasn't an April Fool's gag (though it was a surprise). On the latest Road Trips from April Fool's '88, the band has just taken the stage and after a short little "Alouette" tuning (a la Beer Barrel Polka), Bob teases the crowd with "thank you very much, we'll be right back" : ) Gotta love Further. Those guys are having so much fun.
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I wouldn't have been suprised if many of the miracle seekers back in the day would have simply turned around and resell the freebie tickets they had just recieved because they had no real intention of leaving the parking lot in order to score some extracurricular goodies, only to later crash the gates when the goodies kicked in, thus ruining the scene for everybody else. 16 years later, and the Deer Creek debacle still pisses me off. I will be forever spiteful to those who ruined a planned out vacation because the miracle they were seeking was only a smashed fence away.
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I only did a show, or two, a year from 1979 to 1991, but noticed as the years went on the lot scene got more and more gritty. After the 6-17-91 show at Giants Stadium, I couldn't go anymore. The violence and hooliganism (by a small minority of both heads, and security) was too crazy. Kind of ruined the vibe for me. Sorry to hear that your vacation was ruined, but I'm wondering that if remaining "forever spiteful" toward these ingrates is worth the energy. Made me sad to read that. "I saw things getting out of hand I guess they always will" So ends my unsolicited two cents. Peace to all
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While I like John Lennon's music very much and his desire and advocacy for a peaceful world it must be said, however, that he was a world class jerk. The next time you listen to a weepy news story about this man of peace please do not forget that he was basically a dead beat dad who abandoned his son Julian despite having tremendous resources to do otherwise. Men go to jail for things like that. We should applaud Cyntiha Lennon, or Obama's grandmother for that matter, for taking care of children in need as opposed to that Working Class Hero (Obama's dad was a cad/jerk)!!!!!!! As for the Miracle ticket seekers and gate crashers? Get a job ya' bum! I am saddened and amused by the story above of a Miracle Seeker demanding a free ticket from someone looking for a trade. If I could go to the video tape of my humble life you would see a Miracle Seeker looking to hustle, guilt-trip, and con me out of a ticket. The Miracle Seeker was younger with parents and a home in affluent Darrien Connecticut. Gimme a break -- and get a @#$%^ing job. As much as I love the Dead some days i feel like a younger Rodney Dangerfield when meeting with privileged Miracle Seekers with considerable familial resources.
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this is somewhat related although it does not prove or disprove any points made above at the hampton furthur show my friends and i ran across another friend of mine selling some teeshirts at the fountain and he stated he needed a ticket i said... cool, my friend (at my side) has an extra the miracle seeker said he has no money but how 'bout a teeshirt? the ticket holder was intent on getting the face value back, my friend implored me to give him the ticket for free... puh-lease he said i felt bad but it was not my ticket to give away the ticket holder did eventually sell it to someone else at face value here is the funny part... im sitting in my seat on the floor next to the soundboard with my "ticket holder" friend waiting for the show to begin and then who ends up piling into the row directly in front of us you guessed it... the miracle seeker we all had a great show
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Deadeqad - had to laugh 'As for the Miracle ticket seekers and gate crashers? Get a job ya' bum!' sure damb feel the same way. I just got tierd of freeloaders speaking about some fellow friends, you know what I mean they become expensive after a while, doph! I caught Furthur at Eugene last year and I had 3 x extra tickets, and was worried I may have to take some kinda miracle, but lucky enough Shakedown ST had some beautiful T-eees on display. What not a better way to support your fellow artists. What happened to the days of 'trading' goods for goods, it's all about co existance although sure who can live without $$$. In the end I managed to trade all tix for three shirts, one a nice green tie dye, another two some awsome trippy designs. antonjo - cheers for the knowledge about April Fools.
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It used to make me feel really good to hand someone a ticket but now I just feel like I am getting robbed and/or conned. Can't even get a simple thank you in some instances. Like the other weekend I was in downtown, a pan-handler asked for some money, I hand him $1 and he says "That's it"? Uhh sorry I didn't meet your expectations. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I never went to a show needing/expecting a miracle ticket for free. I was shut out of a few shows due to lack of available tickets, but not lack of funds if one became available. Has the lot crowd ever OWED me a miracle? No. Should guilt follow the rejection of a beggar's want for a ticket for free? No. Most heads work for a living and spend their hard earned cash to have some fun at shows, and if they feel the need to recoup those funds if their friend can't go, fair enough. It's their money, not a strangers. If people want to sell their wares in the lot and buy a ticket from those proceeds, fair enough. Face value is not too much to ask or pay. If people want to give tickets away for free, that's their choice, but it should never be expected (that's why it's called a miracle). Kindness and respect should always be given, but it does not equate to free stuff.
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Right on Matt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On 72 Discs! ????~?¤??????? The Music Never Stops ! ???????¤?~????
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Come ON, folks! Today's the 39th anniversary of the start of the Eu '72 tour--you know, the greatest tour EVER that's warrented the largest Dead release of all time? No mention? No special uploads? Not even a photo or mention by BJ? I'm a bit shocked that the date has gone by unmentioned here.
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This E72 box is getting more awesome daily. They really keep teasing us with all the little appetizers. Super glad to know the whole meal is coming in Sept. It will take me a long time to play 72 CD's. When I'm done, I'll play them again. I'll have to make special preparations in my will for this, it will be worth a lot 10-20 years from now. They could release the entire music on one small HD, for a great price. But that would be way to easy. Jam on America! Coconut Phil, living Free.
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perhaps you are overlooking the great honking link in the middle of the homepage? I especially recommend the Take the Tour link on the right once you get there.
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....with the Facebook link that says Ramble On Rose from 4/7/72, but ends up being Playing In The Band from 4/14/72, which has already been offered as the free teaser download?
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inquire.
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The Dead were a tribe with all sorts. Somewhere around 1985 It just started going downhill, then the touchheads descended en-masse and then the band began writing notes to circulate on Shakedown and the lots -- Stay Away Unless You Have A Ticket! Whatever else, respect the wishes of the band! As for those who could or couldn't afford it, it really is a false division. I never begged for a ticket and used my wits a time or two to make it in without one. But I wasn't about to beg or get down on people for not giving tickets away. The people who caused riots were the clowns. I can see the scene coming back again with Furthur and another generation and I don't like it. How long before Furthur is forced to play 20k seat arenas and again abandon the cool places like the Fox in Atlanta? It's happened alrerady in Vermont. The older generation at Furthur shows just give up and the newer ones are begging. Lets hope this wasn't the last year to see Furthur in those small halls and PACS where the balconies bounced. As for the music of E72, there will be plenty of people with skills to not even have to beg. Are we going to trash those people cause they didn't hand over $450 or even $20 for individual shows if Rhino/WB decides to slice'n'dice. Hey folks, it's such a shitty atmosphere out there I'm not prepared to harsh people for the music, nor will I ever be the one to give it away.
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so I just tried to buy it and it says it is no longer in stock, are they still selling it or is it sold out?
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It's just clicked! ~ so I have to put it down. On the new link for the 72 Tour release, the dates of the shows are being released are consectively in relation to the 72' dates on the calander or am I just really slow at noticing that, doph! In my 'theory' I don't expect another date with set list & taster until April 14th ? encore -Twilight Zone
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must've been a glitch cause I was able to purchase it today! WOO HOO!
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...sounds pretty darn exclusive to me. Grateful Dead Inc. should make the individual discs available for everyone. At least that's what the good ol' Grateful Dead would have done.
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"What the good ol' Grateful Dead would have done"...is something anybody with an internet connection seems to be an expert on!!!!! Magically, what Jerry or the rest of the band "would have done" is always what the expert wants done -- who would've guessed it??? In the real world, what they actually did is, they put it all in the hands of some suits. Strangely, that's worked out pretty well.
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IS NOT what the Grateful Dead would have done. Who would have thought? It was in the hands of some suits because that's always how the businessmen worked, till now. Now the industry has changed in a mot of ways. The suits are doomed. Long live the music!
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One has to wonder with the streaming of E72 tracks on Dead Net and Facebook for each show date, are the free downloads a thing of the past after only four mp3s ? Or will we receive them again after the final Strand Lyceum concert on May 26th ? Sept IS still a long ways off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On 72 Discs! ????~?¤??????? The Music Never Stops ! ???????¤?~????