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    Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition

    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings -
    All The Music Edition

    Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

    We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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    13 years ago
    To Hal
    I just wanted to tell you that i think you are a standup guy and i like you alot!! My post wasn't directed at you at all, you have alot of good points and i love your last post! Your response was honest and i love that!! Peace Hal!!!!
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    13 years ago
    No offense taken, garseeya
    I will say that it's too easy to lump anyone who has something positive to say into the area of "those who didn't have problems." In every post I've made here, I've agreed wholeheartedly that Rhino made some big-ass mistakes here. If you go back and look at some of my earlier posts, I even spell many of them out and make some straight-forward suggestions to Rhino on how to handle it better next time around. But I don't fall into the "all or nothing" camp. So when I see people complaining about something that I don't personally see as Rhino's fault, I'll say so. And remember, in general, more people tend to take the time to post complaints than to post why they're satisfied. That said, I think 90% of the complaints on this site are justified. And Rhino knows it. It's that 10% that seem to just come from rage or from misunderstanding that I have felt compelled to comment on here. Again, if only to offer another voice. I have no stake in backing Rhino beyond the fact that I am really enjoying this music and am glad that they are out there making it available and do not want to see that stop. But I'm not going to let them off the hook for their mistakes and oversights and in not being prepared to handle the distribution of this box set. I've said it before and I hope it holds true that they have probably learned a great deal from their mistakes here and we will (hopefully) see the results of that next time. And while Rhino is a big company that has been around for a long time, this Box Set was, indeed, something a bit off the beaten track for them. That's not an excuse, just awareness. It doesn't mean people shouldn't be angry, aggravated, even bitter. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, as the old saying goes. All I'm trying to offer is a little perspective on those who tend to feel that Rhino is actively out to screw them over. Releasing the shows individually is just one of those topics that I personally don't feel Rhino deserves shit about (except for their bad-timing). I don't believe they broke any promises here. That does not mean I do not support and stand behind many (if not most) of the other gripes people have. I have always said as much. Again, it doesn't have to be all or nothing. This side or that side. I think I've said about all I need to say here. Have a great week everyone. And enjoy the music. Hal
  • JackstrawfromC…
    13 years ago
    Thanks garseeya
    I'm totally with you on this one. If you were one of the ones who got put through the ringer of course you are going to be soured. It is easy to be positive if you had no issues and the issues with this release are monumental from the minute it was released - the site crashing, the under-estimation of the demand, the over promise of the box contents and not listing out exactly everything included (I'm not much for surprises), running credit cards then saving that info for 9 months down the road and THEN trying to charge the card, no way to handle address and credit card changes until it was way too late, sending out boxes before getting the card issues straightened out so people could freak out as to why they had not received their box yet, customer service that was atrocious at best until marye kindly elevated it to someone who actually knew what they were doing to getting the box unpersonalized when it was supposed to be. It was supposed to be the first 3000 personalized then it turned to all 7200 and ended with if you got your tag you are lucky. In the big scheme that part is not a big deal but I don't want to give them a free pass - it's not what I ordered so why would I blow that off?? I am not even going to hit on the packaging issues. The wole thing was second rate hell even third or 4th rate which is astonshing from a company this big that has been putting out music for a long long time. The bottom line for me is that I don't like the business model of "as long as these dopes get their music, they won't care about anything else". That is the message I take home from all of this. It's sad, really sad.
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Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings -
All The Music Edition

Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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Hats off to Oroboros, his earlier post 28th of May, is what it is all about. That it is all really about being grateful, grateful about what you have and what you share. He is right on about the Vineyard, full of the best that the planet has to offer. Sharing,caring and love of your fellow friend.
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I loved the Dead best in the 70's when they were running the show, Looks like Warner Brothers (Owners of Rhino) is running it now. The Dead would never have pulled a trick like this in the 70s when they had GD records, they were for the working man. How many real Dead heads can afford $450 for this set, (and probably would want it.) The rich are having a ball and someone is making big bucks, 72 plastic discs for 450 bucks, Costs are about 6 bucks a disc, making one, maybe 25 cents. Hope some concessions are made for the poor. "Jesus Christ, The Same, Yesterday, Today and Forever"
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get a job and quit moaning or ask for a miracle as the price is easily a good bargin.
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I agree with easy70wind, quit your complaining. They said up front this box set wasn't for everybody. Why do so many people think they are entitled to the music, like it's their right just for being Deadheads. I've been on the bus since '69, I buy what I want, what I can afford, and I pass on the rest. Be thankful that after so many years there is still great music being released.
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I am amazed at how many people are hating The Dead and those that are buying this amazing collection of music. I am far from being rich. Had a quick talk with my wife and she was totally understanding and told me to go for it. I made some sacrifices and made sure we would be ok laying out the money for this. Everyone involved with this have been up front about the costs and that this might not be for everyone. I consider myself so fortunate to be able to enjoy the music from a great period in the bands history.
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The Grateful Dead were left up to mixing all this wonderful music onto all the new means of technology. Can you see Bobby buring a disc 'for every show, not that he's not capable' and handing it to Billy to slap on a cover and finally passing to Phil to organise the packaging through Micky ~ talk about a train wreak. They are too busing playing the music still and don't have a close resourse that can pump this music out to all of the dire hearted fans. They needed a good resouse that I'm sure they did their research for and Warner Brothers Rhino seem like they've found a good match to me. yet alone the other music Rhino supports is fantastic considering all the usual suspects. Train wreak deverted! :)
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a lot of people seem to forget that almost all of the music from Europe 72 is available free of charge to anyone who makes the effort to get it. You can even get sent it to you through the vineyard on this site, tolerated by the band and Rhino and defended by our wonderful Marye. What other band and label do that??? Those soundboards are fine recordings and I am many others have been more than heppy with those over the years. Now a few thousand are crazy enough to want to pay for getting what we have already remixed, cleaned up, pitch corrected, mastered, produced and packaged. But the free alternative will always be there somewhere, even if protocol means that it is removed from the vineyard.
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Can't seem to find a definite answer to this, but as I understand it, the original limited edition Steamer trunk with all the extras is sold out. But you can still buy all the music. My question is, will they be selling selective shows? For instance, could I buy the Bickershaw show, and skip all the rest, etc?
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No But if you want just one show, then you can get it. See Mr. Badger's post above for more info.
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For now, yes, the music is only available as a complete set of shows, but I don't believe they've definitively stated that they won't be selling individual shows at some point in the future (if they have, it slipped past me).
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If anyone would like to bet a large sum of money that they will never sell runs or individual shows after they master all these shows, I would like to take the other side of that bet. Think about it. They aren't going to announce it yet, because they wanted people to pony up for the limited edition box (I did.) Then they want people to pony up for the Music Only set. Then they will eventually sell individual shows and/or 2-3 show runs to generate more revenue. (They may sell individual shows just to see the reaction here when they price a single show at a higher price/disc than the 72 disc box and people begin their bitching and moaning all over again.) LOL
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Seen individual shows from which other box sets? We got the FW 69 "Lite" version, and what else? Granted, the scale of this project blows the others away, but I don't yet see a precedent to justify the hope of individual shows for sale anytime soon. For those who want them, I hope that I'm wrong...
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There's a big difference between not offering individual shows from a 3 show run and not offering individual shows or runs from a 22 show run. Once they take the time (ie spend the money) to remaster all these shows, they will wring them out for all they are worth. It's just common sense + business logic.
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As I recall, when the "Golden Road" and "Beyond Description" boxes were released, the individual albums contained therein were not made available individually. Subsequently they were all released individually. Not quite a direct comparison, but certainly food for thought.
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Good point simonrob. For a while the only way you can get [Europe shows, remastered GD albums] is to spring for the Big Box. Then after a while, they sell them a la carte to generate additional sales when there is less chance of cannibalizing sales of The Big New Box.
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A year or so after the Sept 2011 release date we'll see the 22 shows up for download. Rhino will make their money and not have to make more physical product. And why not, they've invested plenty (money & manpower) . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On 72 Discs! ????~?¤??????? The Music Never Stops ! ???????¤?~???? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " There is Nothing like a Grateful Dead Concert ! "
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I agree that there is NO way Rhino sits on this gold mine. As much as I would like all of the shows, I did not order because the individual shows have to be coming sooner or later. I'm hoping I can shell out the cash over a couple of years through individual digi packs or downloads. There is an FAQ on the site that mentions a new Digital Hi Def download page, and says it is "Coming Soon!"
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I can see this happening as a download series, no physical product to produce and inventory. And as my predictions about the future are never, ever correct, I'll continue to hope for those who are not buying the big box that individual shows do become available. Just as I continue to hope for a re-release of the FW 69 box...
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I listen to Rockin' the Rhein I understand why this box has no spell on me..no phat loaded groove just this thin sound that means nothing to me
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Look, The Grateful Dead is a band I will always love, I listened to nothing but them and a couple of other bands during the 70s, you are right, I don't have any right to complain, I am not going to complain about my health or other problems either, What is neat is there is always plenty of new stuff coming out of the vault!!!! "Jesus Christ, The Same, Yesterday, Today and Forever"
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Hey, that far off date is starting to come into focus. "now lets go run and see"
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"I can see this happening as a download series, no physical product to produce and inventory. And as my predictions about the future are never, ever correct, I'll continue to hope for those who are not buying the big box that individual shows do become available. Just as I continue to hope for a re-release of the FW 69 box..." As Yogi Berra said: “It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” I think the download 72 is a safe bet, but like you, I long for an FW 69 re-release. It probably won't happen due to their initial statements that it is 'limited.' Maybe a complete Fillmore East-West of all years? That would not violate previous statements. I can see it in my crystal ball ! OMG! Bring it on!
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Thanks for the ride, to a true American Beauty.
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any views on whether to ship into Canada via UPS or USPS? I can't remember which proves to be cheaper with customs duties, etc.
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The GD store indicated e-mail confirmations of the Euro 72 box orders would be coming in July. This would give us opportunity to update credit card payment information and personalized notations on the box sets. If you receive one of these, please post upon arrival. Best Wishes-Jimmy
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E72 International Shipping Preference link is on the home page under "The Latest" might want to watch that corner :D
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danc, I have know idea. I started entering my information but then noticed the international reference. I am in the states. Maybe Marye can shed some light on this. Does this only apply to international customers or does eveyone enter their shipping preference?
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Trust ambiguity, guesswork? Maybe for a (theoretical) Fall '82 tour box, but not this one. A shout-out for some GDTS-level precision instructions, pleeeze.
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please clarify--are US customers getting notices to select international shipping? I am seeking clarification on this also.
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I did not get a notice. I saw it on the main page of the site and wondered if it only applied to international customers. I started to enter my order number but thought it would be better to wait for clarification. I am in the states.
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that page escaped before it was quite ready for prime time and we are very sorry for the confusion. Please stay tuned, as informative emails and supporting infrastructure will be forthcoming when the page re-emerges in what we hope will be its just exactly perfect state. So sorry for the anxiety!
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As an International customer myself to be given the option between postal services is a good idea so long as we're not charged any more than the already over-inflated postal charges. The only question is which to choose if I go with UPS the package is more or less guaranteed to be delivered quickly and in perfect condition but it will cost more as there will be a handling charge as well as the VAT. On the other hand if I choose USPS it can take as long as 6-8 weeks to arrive and may well be damaged if it ever arrives at all but there is a slim chance I won't have to pay the VAT which has happened previously with box sets I’ve had delivered in the past. Although recently I seem to get stung by customs every time,but there was a rumor from my postman that customs are not quite as vigilant at certain times in the year when that is I don’t know but it’s a nice bonus when it happens. With free shipping for US there can be no shipping options so how on Earth can any of you be confused by the international shipping options?
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Here in France UPS would defintely register the package with customs and they demand a cheque on delivery for the duty.. USPS links to the French Post Office and they normally don't bother to collect customs fess....but for a package this size I would be lucky to escape the charges.
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clearly you underestimate the ability of confusion to arise on the basis of partial information in these parts...bless your heart... however, with any luck we will soon get shown the light.
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450 %$*@ dollars??!! how do they expect some broke-ass hippie to buy that? i have a hard enough time affording blank CDs to burn copies of my friend's dick's picks...
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Since I indirectly received the word that some of the Dick's Picks were going out of print, I have been purchasing, from this store, the DP's I've been lacking. In the last month I've purchased DP2, 8, 14, 18, and 20. I really wanted to also get DP33 but that is out of print (unless I want to download it - which I do not want to do). Unfortunately, some people ruin it for everyone.
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The payment method re-authorization emails must be going out now. Got mine today, but wasn't able to get through on the phone to update my CC.
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Does anyone know when they will be re-authorizing the credit cards. Thanks
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So...I got my "we will reauthorize your credit card" email tonight, I'm in the U.S. I still have the same card, but it has a new expiration date...so, i guess I should call in? When are they "reauthorizing"? I have everything planned for the announced September ship date, and my order is on my checking account debit card, so I have not been planning on a previuosly unannonced additional hold my checking account. I really need to know the exact date, I really don't want to have checks bouncing/etc. Is it possible to opt out of this additional authorization and just charge my card in September, per the original agreement when I made the purchase? I've already had a 7+ day hold on my checking account in the Spring. Has the shipping date moved up, or is it still expected to charge and ship in Septemebr?
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Well, I received one e-mail credit card verification/authorization e-mail. It was for the order number sequence 2PD3222A8VFXXXXXXX. Nothing yet for my first (earliest) order from the number sequence DN795XXXX. Hopefully the GD store can take care of both next week with a simple phone call. Best Wishes-Jimmy

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Allman, I hope you can obtain a copy of Dick's 33. It's one of the best. I'm hoping you've got 26 & 28, as well? 31's awfully great, too, and of course 4 is a cornerstone. And 21, well, you've gotta have Richmond '85.... : ) I don't have most of the ones you recently ordered (but for 2, which is a gem) and wasn't aware that some DPs were going permanently out of print, but I've got this big box set to pay for coming right up.....you know the one......
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I got my email for the re-authorization; it's a good thing, as my address, for some reason, wasn't complete (the town was missing). Regarding France and customs charges, UPS will make you pay; there's a good chance the post office won't. In 25 years of living in France, I think I've only been hit twice by the post office. And I've had some substantial orders arrive that way, notably a go board and stones, a few years ago, worth about the same amount as this box set. Damn, only two more months...
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My street address was missing too? Really think the phone lines will be flooded for a while. I believe at least 7200 people will be calling just to check their CC status. It is a shame that Dick's Picks could disappear. It should be seen as a legacy. But this is a business and if they are not moving from the shelves then a decision had to be made. It would have been nice to get 33 though. Not much 76 released.
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if you have a new expiration date, mailing address, credit card number, etc., call in. Maybe not all at once...
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I don't have to do anything but wait, right? The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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I had a question and got a swift response by emailing my question. If you don't need to speak to a person just email them @ customerservice@dead.net Worked for me.. :) :) :)