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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    @ Freeworld: Thanks for the advice, but, we're just a bunch of hippies doing the best we can. If everybody who came into the Vineyard had a good heart (like the vast majority of us) and didn't just disappear with a boatload of vines, it would work just fine. Unfortunately, there has been a recent influx of selfish folks that have caused problems. I for one wouldn't want too much structure. Peace, "That path is for, your steps alone."
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    Thanks for the tip, Hal
    1996 was only 14 years ago
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    Wants to hire me full time, I'd gladly be the monitor here =) Believe me, it would be a full time job. I think there is a group of us that do a pretty good job of keeping the vineyard running as best we can. "The dire wolf collects his due while the boys sing round the fire"
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    We had a hall monitor (MITD) at one time, and he just vanished in thin air. We try to keep law and order but things are generally in a "state of nature."
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    Having worked in the industry for a while, I would say that you really need to understand your site and what it wants to grow.
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    all that is and was and ever will be
    I love that William Blake quote. (sorry if i'm slow to navigate the technology here. i'd honestly rather be writing cursive and sharing that. OK that's the new topic -- hands -- things of beauty created by HANDS. lately lots of virtual art/realities have been created in cyberspace, but if/when that shuts down, will people still be able to weave, knit, sew, sow, reap, harvest and ferment their own food, clothes? oh yeah, make and play musical instruments?) What do you do when you're NOT on the internet? With your hands? To get into flow? To make yourself happy? To create beauty?
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    I think some hippie guy replaced your picture with his. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    We may never see a complete quality recording of this 3 set afternoon on 9/3/72. Owsley was running the board, I believe. First set indeed is a low quality audience with stops between songs.2nd set Bertha is missing a channel (vocals) for awhile. 3rd set seems to be the only set of the show with a decent recording. Check Dicks Picks 36 for a taste! I do have the complete show as described above with multi-sourced/multi-generational history. Did One More Saturday Night end this show?
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    INFO FOR 5/5/77 New Haven, CT.
    Somestimes vines overlap, and that can be a good thing. I just stumbled on something this weekend while listening to my copy of 5/5/77 New Haven, CT. This was vined on a CDR in the "1977-05-05 May 1977 East Coast Vine" and on a DVD (flac) in the "1977 Lossless Vine: Part 2." I got both vines but I was only listening to the CDR copy from the 'East Coast Vine." Set 1 Tenn Jed had a 4 second drop-out dead air at the 1 minute mark (rich man step on my poor head..), and I think I heard another drop-out later in the song. Bertha had a minor pop glitch towards the middle-end of the song. I had my cell phone laying next to this CDR for a short time, and I thought the magnetic field had erased portions of the song. I don't think so. I went and checked the betty board version on the flac DVD "1977 Lossless Vine: Part 2." There were 4 DVDs, and this show in on DVD#1. Wow! This is a better source, and there is no drop-out in Tenn Jed. Tenn Jed is complete on this source. So I ditched the other CDRs and re-burned the betty board source. You might wanna check if you want the best source.
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    9/3/72 is not on the September 72 vine as presently constituted. Good intentions pave the way to hell, or to varying degrees of confusion. I gave a partial re-seed of the 9/72 vine when it died, using CDRs only. The shows are listed in my post on that vine. 9/3 was not included, but both Waterbury shows were. I believe 9/16 was complete, but much was an audience recording. The Dark Star was a good soundboard. If a new September vine is to be attempted, I can contribute if it helps. Steve
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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I see how to do it now by hitting the FORUMS link on the top left. I guess I like the older sorting method better.
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VLC player.com will play flac files check it out and its all free.Greg
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I noticed that the threads are not corresponding to the topic. For example: When you respond to the "1984 SBD's vol.2" topic, it shows up on the "Go Ahead" vine thread. Another example: When You click on the "1977 Lossless vine pt.2" vine and start reading through a few pages, it turnes out it is the signup list for one of the 1973 vines. Thoughts? Peace, Chris
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I'll mention this to the tech wizards.
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I've tried to post in the New Vines topic and it brings up a 1990's vine.
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I was trying to update the ABB 86-96 vine and miraculously my post showed up in a jazz vine I was unfamiliar with. I've been calling these "Vineyard Wormhole's." ;)
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perhaps let's hold off on exciting vineyard adventures for a bit.
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Excellent term Andy! You just summed up mywhole post in two words! :o)
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Besides those already noted, please add (1) that once we are in a vineyard thread, we can no longer just click on the vineyard link at the top of the screen (note that on this topic that link is no longer here) to get back to the vineyard, but instead have to backclick or go back to forums and start over; and (2) in the "shows & lyrics" section on the left hand of the screen, if you search by date, which used to display links with each year, now just goes straight to the first shows ('65) and you have to somehow go from there. All in all, I think the changes have made the site much less user-friendly and much less sophisticated. I assume this is just temporary and things will get better. Anyone else agree?
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Besides those already noted, please add (1) that once we are in a vineyard thread, we can no longer just click on the vineyard link at the top of the screen (note that on this topic that link is no longer here) to get back to the vineyard, but instead have to backclick or go back to forums and start over; and (2) in the "shows & lyrics" section on the left hand of the screen, if you search by date, which used to display links with each year, now just goes straight to the first shows ('65) and you have to somehow go from there. All in all, I think the changes have made the site much less user-friendly and much less sophisticated. I assume this is just temporary and things will get better. Anyone else agree?
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I miss that vineyard link too. My muscle memory keeps taking my cursor to where that used to be. I hadn't looked at the Shows by Year in a while, but man that's completely whack! Has the font changed on the posts and topic headings, too? Lettering seems thin, and the topic headings seem too close to each other - kinda eye-straining. Hate to turn this into a b*tch fest, but it just seems like needless tweaking to a site that was just fine before. Kinda like a "downgrade" to a more primitive and, as you say, less user-friendly version of the site.
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I miss that vineyard link too. My muscle memory keeps taking my cursor to where that used to be. I hadn't looked at the Shows by Year in a while, but man that's completely whack! Has the font changed on the posts and topic headings, too? Lettering seems thin, and the topic headings seem too close to each other - kinda eye-straining. Hate to turn this into a b*tch fest, but it just seems like needless tweaking to a site that was just fine before. Kinda like a "downgrade" to a more primitive and, as you say, less user-friendly version of the site.
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Yeah, I'm not complaining too loud, just pointing out a few problems that hopefully get corrected. I agree, Nuthatch, re: the font, not too crazy about that. On the plus side, pictures look a lot better (take a look at MaryE up above!!!). :)
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I kinda like the big picture of Marye. ;o) Not to bitch, but ... another thing I noticed was you used to be able to have the web site notify you via Email when you have new private messages (which I think is a GREAT feature for active vinyard folks), but I can't seem to find how to set that up now. This is a great feature for all Viners to set this up. It's a good way to keep communication open with seed-holders who have gone astray. JMHO, Chris
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Yeah, I like the pic too, I hope that was clear!!!
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Have the technical problems chased everyone away?Seems like no one is on much anymore, and the mailbox has been very lonely. :o( I have a very cool new vine I want to start, but I'm not even sure where to where to post it? ... or if it would even make the rounds (my bi-centennial vine kinda fizzled out) :o( Peace, Chris
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I'm here. Ripping a little slower than norml due to the new job, but I'm around. I have an 83 vine ready to start too. Just waiting for things to get rollin again. I see Deadnoise is busy. Awesome!! Welcome brother. Also, i have the 1995 vine and June 74 still and will go out Monday. Got confirmation from both ecb and ripple74 they are still down for the cause. Dropped the ball on the june 74 vine but it'll go out Monday. Working 12 hour days right now. Sleepy when I get home. Hope everyone is doing good. jSFC- how were the Red Rocks shows? Peace, Andy
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Poncho just sent me Frisco's 1976 Bicentennial Vine and I can't locate it to update. Am I stupid? Likely. Anyways looked real quick but gotta go. Could someone bump it to the top so I can update? Thanks a lot.... and thanks Chris and Poncho
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with the link it is crossed up with a Tapers section from May
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things are a little weird still. I've notified the tech wizard... There were some serious technical issues yesterday. There is, however, a New, New New Vines topic, which was working the last I looked.
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.... and thanks Mary!
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I am not sure why we are getting big pics. Also that pic is very old. But hey...it's nice to see my dear Rex again.
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Sorry for my tardiness. A lot has been going on lately and I keep saying I will get vines I am holding on the move. By this Fri EVERYTHING I have is goin in the mail: http://www.dead.net/forum/lopezzs-little-bit-everything-vine http://www.dead.net/forum/live-nirvana-vine http://www.dead.net/forum/cap-center-88-vine Nov 70 Vine (not yet posted) and if I get anythin new in I will update and send those out too. Again I sincerely apologize for those of you who have been waiting for these. -Jake
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My 1969 Lossless Part 5 Vine is still unable to be found. If we need to make a new thread I believe pomo1 had it last and was supposed to send it to dstache.
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I am still around...but I am on another "project" and pre-occupied with that...but I'll be checking in once a day
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that things are a bit haywire in the Vineyard right now, with posts not going where they oughta, and such, the techs are aware of the problem and it's all, as it were, connected and being addressed. So for the moment I am sitting tight rather than messing with anything, but please be aware that yes, we do know about it and are dealing with it. Thanks!
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To make a long story short: A good deal of restoration work has gone on behind the scenes, with the result that a lot of vanished vines seem to have un-vanished and, for instance, Blair's Nicky Hopkins blog post is now about Nicky Hopkins again instead of a vine. This is all good. However, since we're dealing with hundreds of vines and the main people who know what's up with them at this point is the viners themselves: IF, AT THIS POINT, YOU ARE TRYING TO POST TO A VINE AND GET MISDIRECTED, OR TRYING TO FIND A VINE AND FIND THAT IT HAS VANISHED, **POST HERE**. DO NOT SEND ME A PM BECAUSE IT WILL GET LOST IN THE CHAOS. IF YOU POST IT HERE WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF TRACKING IT DOWN AND RESTORING ORDER. THANK YOU.
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mary,my 1969 Lossless Part 5 Vine is still missing Thanks, Jake
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do you have the original link for it? (If not, no worries, because we may wind up starting it from scratch anyway, but we hope to avoid this...)
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anybody else got any MIAs, please report them!
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I was looking for a 'Jazz & Blues for Allah' vine that I posted an update to recently but can't find it. I did take a look at an Allman Brothers vine that was I interested in and noticed that the postings it has are mostly for the 'Jazz & Blues for Allah' vine.... including my update.Here is the link for the ABB vine, http://dead.net/forum/allman-bros-band-1986-1996-1dvd-flac-vine I also sent a few PMs out but got no response. I don't know if anyone got them or just haven't had a chance to respond.
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t140v77 the PMs are not working... and the two vines he mentioned are crossed up 'Jazz & Blues for Allah vine' posts are under the allman-bros-band-1986-1996-1dvd-flac-vine thread as well as this topic does not show up in the vineyard link there are two others (from 2009 mistakenly) pinned there instead
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Holding up a few vines right now. Should have em out this week. Just a heads up I'm still alive and rippin'. :) Hope everyone is good and having a Grate October. Someone tell me who's up on the Bicentennial vine. I'z got it. Peace
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This thread doesn't show up in the vineyard, but it does show up as the "next topic" if you go to the reseed thread. Very weird. Plus, many threads have the wrong main post. It seems like things have been messed up here for what, a couple of months at least? I'm pretty patient but it is getting to be a little too much. Maybe it is time for me to move on, I don't know. It needs to be said that it seems that the powers-that-be are quietly shutting this section of the site down, slowly but surely, not coming out and saying they are doing it, but making it so annoying and difficult to navigage and use that people will just decide to leave on their own. Maybe I am burned out a bit too. I'm a little over halfway through the Europe 72 and, while all but a couple of shows so far are Very Good (and more than a couple are Great), the rah-rah every show is at least excellent stuff (doesn't Blair write that somewhere?) just irks me. Listen to the Sugarees from the tour. They are boring as heck without any Jerry solos. The notes to 5/11 say that Dick, whose opinion I usually agree with, said that it was his favorite Europe 72 show. About halfway through the 1st set I was wondering if I was insane as the band was very flat. Yeah, it picks up for the second set, but even the Dark Star wasn't as good as it should have been. There was one really nice jam that went on for a bit, but I could just feel that JErry wasn't throwing himself 100% into it, but instead wanted to go back to space/noodling. I know, it's the whole journey/destination argument, but I feel so much more satisfied when a great jam results. Anyways, the point of the above was that I spent $450 on a box set and there is this real attitude here that that was not enough. If I am a real deadhead, I need to spend another $100 on a subscription for limited issue shows, only one of which they are willing to tell me. And then all the heads clamoring for 80's and 90's shows, Christ! Not to mention '76! The last Road Trips, which I am not purchasing, is a middling show in a middling year. 5 officially released 76 shows was more than enough, now we get another, and people are clamoring for more. I certainly don't want to pay $25 for a show I won't listen to more than 2x. Damn, I'm just rambling but I am fed up with it. I know you can't please everyone all the time. Heck, half the people want compilations and half of us don't. Half of us want only classic shows or at least shows from classic periods (hidden gems, shows where the circulated version has less than stellar sound) while the other half wants every period equally represented or at least well-represented. And the powers-that-be try their best, and we have to show our loyalty for the band we love by buying everything that comes out, no matter whether we like it or not, and no matter whether they tell us what it is or not. Ugh! On the other hand, Mary hooked me up with tix to the Taxi Tour shows and that was so kind. And there are a lot of great people here. And I really think the powers-that-be are trying hard. I just don't like this limited issue, subscription only, early bird gets the worm thing. And $450 is definitely not going to be a yearly thing for me. It is pretty ridiculous that I paid that for recorded music for one band for one year.
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Good to hear your point of view. Now I don't feel like such an outlier to the "norm". Europe72 single-handly destroyed this place whether you had problems with your order or not.
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I am excited about the GD Movie coming out on Blue-Ray. It's on its way from Amazon as we speak.
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this is cool. There's an upside to the impending demise of my 20-year-old TV.:-)
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Hi there, I was wondering when this topic and others, in particular www.dead.net/forum/dead-beta-vine and www.dead.net/forum/jazz-blues-allah-vine will get linked to the Vineyard? I would like to be able to get to these topics without having to enter the URL for them. Is there someplace I should report problems or submit requests like this? Mike
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this will be worked on in the next few days, as the techs have been busy on things like 30 Days of Dead.
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The China > Rider from 5/13/72 reminded me why I love the Dead so much :) I just need to remember that if they want to release shows or, God forbid (hehe), compilations, I get to save a few bucks and not buy them. And if I can ever gather the willpower to refrain from reading the comments re: the releases and on other threads here, I will really be doing ok. Maybe these realizations are the result of a couple of bits of bad news I received today: (1) one of my cats, Gretta, 13 yrs of age, is apparently blind. How the heck did that happen and how am I just finding out about it now?!?!? She lost some weight and we took her in today and that's the diagnosis from the vet. She seems normal other than the weightloss. Her routine hasn't changed. She's very active and gets around fine. It's crazy! (2) More importantly, my Dad, who has suffered from MS most of his adult life, and almost all of mine, is in serious trouble again. He has been in and out of the hospital with various infections and complications for the past 9 months now. As some of you may recall, I received a call from my grandmother last winter that things were looking bleak so I went back to Michigan and visited with him. Things turned out not to be as bleak as she said, but they certainly haven't gotten too good either. My uncle called today and said that the doctor told him that my father was dying a slow death, from the infections and the progressiveness of MS. My Dad's 62, which is pretty old for someone who has MS since their mid-to-late-20's. I'm flying out to see him tomorrow. It feels good to write this. I know I carry the best wishes from everyone here and I appreciate it.
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I have said on this site before a couple of times that I will be taking time off from here and this time I'm sticking to it. A big thanks goes out to Trevor, Derek, Mark, Rick, Bob, RMB, CB, and all of the viners that were on here when I started that aren't with us now. Sorry if I forgot any names. Without these guys this place wouldn't be the same. I hope you all enjoy this very free trading community and most importantly, keep the music moving. Derek, sorry to hear about your dad. Hope all goes well. Best wishes to you and your entire family. Take care fellow heads and my friends, Jake
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We are thinking about you Derek! Stay strong
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take care, and all good to your loved ones. Jake R, have a good and restorative break!