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  • rich0272
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    Hey all. I'm looking to expand my collection. I only have a couple dozen shows but now I am looking for many many more. Any information to help me get started would be appreciated as I am not really sure where to begin. Love it all but I am a HUGE early 70's fan. Thanks and can't wait to get collecting!
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    They finally found a home.... Yippeeeee!!!
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    Wholly DEAD DAT! ~ Anyone want some crispy tunes?
    Yes, I realize this might be an outdated offer as there are many ways to download music these days, AND hoping someone out there might appreciate receiving these crispy DAT's... You will find below the list of 46 Dead and half dozen JGB on DAT that I am offering. If you want these, need not do more than send along your information including a valid US UPS address so I can ship them out to you. Of course, once you get them if you discover that some of these shows might be ones others would appreciate, then feel free to pass them on in whatever way inspires you... You can email me directly at antonio@SoundingSpirit.com with your response. Keep on keepin' on! ~ Antonio ~ Dead DAT List 66-03-25 – Whole Show - Troupers Club, L.A. - SBD 66-07-03 – Whole Show – The Fillmore – SBD 71-07-02 – Set 2 – Fillmore West – SBD 72-05-11 – Set 1 & part of 2 – Netherlands – SBD 72-05-26 – Set 1 – London – SBD 72-07-26 – Whole Show – Portland, OR – SBD 72-07-26 – Part of Set 2 – SBD 73-11-10 – Set 2 – Winterland – SBD 73-05-26 – Set 1 & 3 – Kezar Staadium – DSBD 74-06-18 – Whole Show – Freedom Hall, Louisville, KY – SBD 74-08-06 – Set 1 - Jersey City – SBD 74-10-19 – Winterland – SBD 76-06-15 – Whole Show – The Beacon, NY, NY – DSBD 77-06-08 – Set 2 – Winterland – DSBD 77-06-09 – Whole Show – Winterland – Reel >DAT SBD 77-01-11 – Whole Show – Detroit, MI – DSBD 78-07-08 – Set 2 – Red Rocks - DSBD 78-10-21 – Set 2 – Winterland – DSBD 78-11-24 – Whole Show – Capitol Theater – Passaic, NJ – SBD 80-06-21 – Set 1 - Anchorage, AL – SBD 80-09-06 – Set 2 – Lewiston, ME – F.O.B. Aud. 80-10-04 – Acoustic & Set 1 – Warfield – SBD 80-10-06 – Acoustic Set – Warfield - DSBD 80-10-10 – Acoustic Set – Warfield - DSBD 80-10-11 – Acoustic Set – Warfield - DSBD 81-12-31 – Whole Show – Oakland Coliseum – DSBD 82-12-31 – Whole Show – Oakland Coliseum – DSBD 82-07-31 – Whole Show - Austin, TX - DSBD 85-08-30 – Whole Show – Houston, TX - DSBD 87-05-03 – Set 2 - Frost Ampitheater – DSBD 87-09-24 – Set 2 – Philly Spectrum – DSBD (Smokin’!) 89-02-10 – Whole Show - Great Western Forum, L.A. – DSBD 90-12-12 – Set 2 – Denver, CO – DSBD 91-08-16 – Set 2 – Shoreline – SBD 91-08-17 – Set 2 – Shoreline – SBD 91-09-10 – Set 1 – MSG – DSBD – (filler from 71-07-02) 91-09-22 – Whole Show – Boston Garden – DSBD 91-09-25 – Whole Show – Boston Garden - DSBD 91-10-27 – Set 2 – Oakland Coliseum – SBD (w/ Carlos & Gary Duncan) 92-05-30 – Set 2 – Silver Bowl, Las Vegas – DSBD 92-12-16 – Set 2 – Oakland Coliseum – SBD 93-09-22 – Whole Show – MSG – DSBD (w/ David Murray on Sax) 94-03-30 – Whole Show – The Omni, Atlanta, GA – DSBD 94-10-05 – Set 2 – Philly Spectrum – Pre-FM DSBD (Jerry during Drums!) 94-12-11 – Whole Show – Oakland Coliseum - DSBD 95-07-08 – Whole Show – Soldier Field – Aud Other: 94-02-13 - Crosby, Phil & Nash! – Masonic Temple, S.F. JGB 71-09-01 – Garcia & Saunders – Keystone, S.F. – SBD 75-04-12 – Legion of Mary – Masonic Temple, Scranton, PA – SBD 75-10-17 – JGB – Concord Pavillion – SBD 75-12-19 – JGB – Winterland – SBD 79-03-?? – Reconstruction – SBD 81-05-30 – JGB – Phoenix Theater, Petaluma, CA – SBD 83-11-25 – JGB – Cleveland Music Hall - SBD
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    Wholly DEAD DAT! ~ Anyone want some crispy tunes?
    Yes, I realize this might be an outdated offer as there are many ways to download music these days, AND hoping someone out there might appreciate receiving these crispy DAT's... You will find below the list of 46 Dead and half dozen JGB on DAT that I am offering. If you want these, need not do more than send along your information including a valid US UPS address so I can ship them out to you. Of course, once you get them if you discover that some of these shows might be ones others would appreciate, then feel free to pass them on in whatever way inspires you... You can email me directly at antonio@SoundingSpirit.com with your response. Keep on keepin' on! ~ Antonio ~ Dead DAT List 66-03-25 – Whole Show - Troupers Club, L.A. - SBD 66-07-03 – Whole Show – The Fillmore – SBD 71-07-02 – Set 2 – Fillmore West – SBD 72-05-11 – Set 1 & part of 2 – Netherlands – SBD 72-05-26 – Set 1 – London – SBD 72-07-26 – Whole Show – Portland, OR – SBD 72-07-26 – Part of Set 2 – SBD 73-11-10 – Set 2 – Winterland – SBD 73-05-26 – Set 1 & 3 – Kezar Staadium – DSBD 74-06-18 – Whole Show – Freedom Hall, Louisville, KY – SBD 74-08-06 – Set 1 - Jersey City – SBD 74-10-19 – Winterland – SBD 76-06-15 – Whole Show – The Beacon, NY, NY – DSBD 77-06-08 – Set 2 – Winterland – DSBD 77-06-09 – Whole Show – Winterland – Reel >DAT SBD 77-01-11 – Whole Show – Detroit, MI – DSBD 78-07-08 – Set 2 – Red Rocks - DSBD 78-10-21 – Set 2 – Winterland – DSBD 78-11-24 – Whole Show – Capitol Theater – Passaic, NJ – SBD 80-06-21 – Set 1 - Anchorage, AL – SBD 80-09-06 – Set 2 – Lewiston, ME – F.O.B. Aud. 80-10-04 – Acoustic & Set 1 – Warfield – SBD 80-10-06 – Acoustic Set – Warfield - DSBD 80-10-10 – Acoustic Set – Warfield - DSBD 80-10-11 – Acoustic Set – Warfield - DSBD 81-12-31 – Whole Show – Oakland Coliseum – DSBD 82-12-31 – Whole Show – Oakland Coliseum – DSBD 82-07-31 – Whole Show - Austin, TX - DSBD 85-08-30 – Whole Show – Houston, TX - DSBD 87-05-03 – Set 2 - Frost Ampitheater – DSBD 87-09-24 – Set 2 – Philly Spectrum – DSBD (Smokin’!) 89-02-10 – Whole Show - Great Western Forum, L.A. – DSBD 90-12-12 – Set 2 – Denver, CO – DSBD 91-08-16 – Set 2 – Shoreline – SBD 91-08-17 – Set 2 – Shoreline – SBD 91-09-10 – Set 1 – MSG – DSBD – (filler from 71-07-02) 91-09-22 – Whole Show – Boston Garden – DSBD 91-09-25 – Whole Show – Boston Garden - DSBD 91-10-27 – Set 2 – Oakland Coliseum – SBD (w/ Carlos & Gary Duncan) 92-05-30 – Set 2 – Silver Bowl, Las Vegas – DSBD 92-12-16 – Set 2 – Oakland Coliseum – SBD 93-09-22 – Whole Show – MSG – DSBD (w/ David Murray on Sax) 94-03-30 – Whole Show – The Omni, Atlanta, GA – DSBD 94-10-05 – Set 2 – Philly Spectrum – Pre-FM DSBD (Jerry during Drums!) 94-12-11 – Whole Show – Oakland Coliseum - DSBD 95-07-08 – Whole Show – Soldier Field – Aud Other: 94-02-13 - Crosby, Phil & Nash! – Masonic Temple, S.F. JGB 71-09-01 – Garcia & Saunders – Keystone, S.F. – SBD 75-04-12 – Legion of Mary – Masonic Temple, Scranton, PA – SBD 75-10-17 – JGB – Concord Pavillion – SBD 75-12-19 – JGB – Winterland – SBD 79-03-?? – Reconstruction – SBD 81-05-30 – JGB – Phoenix Theater, Petaluma, CA – SBD 83-11-25 – JGB – Cleveland Music Hall - SBD
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    PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!
    PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT. IVE, HAD A BRAKE IN MY STORAGE UNIT AND A FEW BOXES WERE TAKEN AND MY COLLECTION OF THE DEAD TOUR 2003 WERE IN ONE OF THOSE BOXES.I HAVE LOOKED ON LINE AND FOUND OUT THE COMPANY RECORDING THE SHOWS SOLD THE RITES TO RHINO RECORDS AND WHO KNOWS WHEN THEY WILL BE AROUND. I WILL SEND BLANKS POSTAGE WHATEVER BUT CAN SOMEONE HELP ME. I FELL IN LOVE W.THOSE SHOWS. NOW THAT I KNOW THEY ARE GONE IM GOING NUTS. PLEASE ,PLEASE HELP OUT !!!! THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
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    PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!
    PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT. IVE, HAD A BRAKE IN MY STORAGE UNIT AND A FEW BOXES WERE TAKEN AND MY COLLECTION OF THE DEAD TOUR 2003 WERE IN ONE OF THOSE BOXES.I HAVE LOOKED ON LINE AND FOUND OUT THE COMPANY RECORDING THE SHOWS SOLD THE RITES TO RHINO RECORDS AND WHO KNOWS WHEN THEY WILL BE AROUND. I WILL SEND BLANKS POSTAGE WHATEVER BUT CAN SOMEONE HELP ME. I FELL IN LOVE W.THOSE SHOWS. NOW THAT I KNOW THEY ARE GONE IM GOING NUTS. PLEASE ,PLEASE HELP OUT !!!! THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
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    had this copy of a show jerry garcia band warfield 11/20/1990 lost it some how can anybody please help me find this show i am lost without it i have looked for 3 months gotta get it outta my head
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    Thanks for lending a hand!
    However, the MSG 9/18/91 on archive.org was stream only, and I'd love to get a tape or MP3 or something in my hands. any thoughts?
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    http://archive.org/details/gd1992-03-21.sennme80.wklitz.97542.flac16htt… http://archive.org/details/gd92-03-17.nak300-horvath.dodd.16052.sbeok.s… http://archive.org/details/gd1991-09-18.dmtx.hansokolow.110645.flac16 Some links are above. They are of varying quality, but you can download them all from the archive.
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    MSG 9/18/91Spectrum 3/17/92 Spectrum 3/18/92 Copps Coliseum 3/21/92 Only 4 shows I had the privilege of attending - sentimental value - can anybody help me get these? Thanks!
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Hello Andy. If your looking to get your collection going again a good place to start would be the Vine thread here in the tapers forum. All the instructions are there in the first posts. If you have any questions send me a private message. I'd also to be willing to help you out with a b&p. My list is available at the web site listed below. Rock on. "The bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean." www.geocities.com/newcamptownraces/gratefulgoddamneddead.html
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I'm still rather new to the trading scene. Am hoping someone could send me a copy of this show. Heard it's really good and just south of Hershey. PM if you can send some Help On the Way.Peace All, Zach
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Was trying to download some shows here and have been getting dropped off due to software in my host machine. Went through the troubleshooting and it still did not help. Can anyone offer some assistance? And since we are sort of on the topic of tapes, I would be willing to give away my stash of shows. Most were recorded right from a DAT so the sound is great when cranked up. Just send me a mesage and let me know what you are looking for.
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I'm new to this Dead taping community. I'm wondering if any of you all have some doubles, strays, or shows you just don't listen to that you'd be willing to send my way. Drop me a PM if you can help. Cheers, Zachary
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This is a very long shot but......Can anybody out there help a desperate british head? I'm looking for a sbd of 6/9/77 winterland You know, the one with the best ever help/slip/frank! pax.
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I was at those 3 shows at Winterland. That was the summer of the breakout of the "Blues for Allah" tunes (album was released on 7-27-77) we got treated to all those new tunes like Fire, Estimated, Samson &, redone Dancin, Passenger, and of course Terrapin. Was on a road trip with friends and we first caught the 6-4-77 show at the LA Forum, for a preview of what was to come with that tremendous Winterland run. The shows at Winterland were in stark contrast to that huge "Fabulous Forum" (capacity 18,759) compared to Winterland's 5,400 capacity. Winterland was a real treat, small venue and a balcony that surrounded the whole place. Winterland also had a bar where there was a 'big screen' TV where they showed video of prior Winterland concerts that Bill "Uncle Bobo" Grahmn had filmed. You might go in for a dring and see a Airplane concert or Jimi Hendrix or whoever the cued up to view as you imbibed (and this was all before "Wolfgang's vault"). As I said, we were on a road trip and had sent word back to Heads back in Nebraska, about these June Winterland shows. Two friends told us to meet them at the Wharf Rat bar in SanFran at 1:30 on 6-7-77. They then hopped a freight train in Nebr. and "rode the rails" accross the plains, through the Rockies, in and out of mountain tunnels, (cool Colorado range) and then into the SanDiego trainyards. The then got in the "tube" to go unde the bay and get to SanFran. As we walked into the Wharf Rat from the side that faced the wharf, they walked into the place from a side door and we ran into one another like the 3 Stooges. Hooray!! We went up to the show and bought tickets, partied on the sidewalk until they let us in, and then were completely blown away by the band. I remember on 6-7-77 (anyone out there with 6-7/8-77 CD?), hearing Terrapin (for the second time) and then they segue into Dew. Phil dropped these bass bombs that propelled me backwards. It was like he changed the gravitational pull from horizontally down to a lateral atmoshperic 'shove' , until it felt like the breath was being pushed out of my lungs, and then I would gasp for breath again. The Dead pulled out the vista crusier repeatedly during those shows with wonders that left us slack-jawed and delights that made me laugh and cry. I recall Jerry doing some tuning from the "Close Encounters of a Third Kind" movie that had just came out that summer. Anyway, needless to say, it was a wonderful run of shows. alligator, sent you a pm.
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PM me with your addy and I'll hook you up. Maybe I'l start a vine and put you first on the list. Peace, Richard
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That is the stadium where the old LA Lakers played and it was quite a huge venue (for the time, anyway). That second set was an amazing selection: Samson, Ship of Fools, Estimated>Eyes>drums>Good Lovin', and then Terrapin>Playin'>Franklin's>China Doll> NFA>Playin'. They turned this big arena into a spinning top, with the pace and dynamics, all the grandeur of Terrapin into the familarity of Playin and into the joy of Franklin's into the delicate passion of China Doll into the centrifigal force of a rockin' NFA and then segue back to Playin' reprise. As we drove back north to make those Winterland shows and stopped at one spot on the highway (101, I believe) and it was a spot that the ocean's waves were smahing into the wall that was set into the shore about 30 feet below where we had parked. The ocean's spray from the impact would loft 25 feet above us with each wave's crash and then it would rain down on us as we grinned and recounted the show we saw, and talked about what the band would be playing next. It was at that point that I heard that thundering and drumming of the ocean on that wall and thought to myself how similar it was to the other force of nature that we'd witnessed earlier that evening. And then it was off to Winterland. And then I was able to hear the whole suite of Help>Slipknot>Franklin's on 6-9-77. What a time we had! (I really had to finish the story, it had to be done.)
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See the PM for more info. Thanks, I will then have 2 out of the 3 of that Winterland run!!
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I have the laser disc grateful dead/dead ahead live concert halloween 1980. I am interested in selling it but have no idea of the value. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Would anyone with an extensive collection be willing to do a fairly large (15-20) B & P for me to help bolster my collection? PM me if you can.Cheers, Zachary
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Im starting to see many people on here who are wanting to start a collection. I have racks of tapes that I no longer listen too and with help from folks out here and a high speed internet connection I have started to get a new collection of my favorite shows on CD (after a flood took out most of my late 80s tapes) If your in the Portland/Vancouver area and want to start your collection, I would be willing to turn you on to a rack (or two) of cassettes. Each rack is 100 tapes and I have 1965-85 and 1991-95 with 9 racks (I think) remaing. Eric PS - I would consider helping folks outside of the PDX area but it would cost A LOT to ship these so keep it in mind before PMing me...
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Im looking for any St. Louis Missouri shows. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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lookin to get ANYTHING from the 2003-2004 tour of THE DEAD realy looking for the Tampa show w/ Bob Dylan,but anything from that tour i would love to get.I do have a few hundred hours to trade as well. So can anyone hook me up?or let me know of some who can help.
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Dont know if its same show, but I got the Keller show with Bob and RD off db.etree.org I think it was the 10,000 lakes or something like that from this past July. Keller plays "heart in a blender" and parts of Pink Floyd's The Wall...Great stuff!! and good sounding Aud recording. Ive also seen the soundboard but have yet to get that. Good luck... Eric
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looking for killer 69-71 shows.have a few hundred hours to trade.also looking for anything w/ T.C. as well.will also toss in a Garcia T shirt w/any trade.
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I managed to d/l and burn a few things from the Taper's Section b4 they changed formats. I have 2 discs that I would be happy to burn. The discs I have are as follows;Disc 1: 1. From 2/24/73, Jam>Bass Solo>Jam>Sugar Magnolia - 17:32 2. From 2/23/74, He's Gone>Truckin'>The Other One>Eyes Of The World - 60:46(!!) Disc 2: 1. From 2/21/73, Mississippi Half-Step 8:22 2. From 6/10/73, Eyes>Stella Blue 30:07 3. From 12/01/73, Playin'>Uncle John's>Playin' 30:25 4. From 7/19/74, Scarlet Begonias 8:55 I didn't record the venue info on these bits, but it is not hard to find. PM me if interested, maybe I'll figure out how to answer a PM. You'll just have to send 2 blank CD-Rs and $$ to cover return postage. L8R
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I am looking for anyone that has a tape of the dead at Lake Placid 10/17/83 ts got a sick versin of "Touch of grey". This was my first bootleg. I need a mirical!!
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July 16, 1990 Does anyone know where I can get a CD copy (not a download) of the July 16, 1990 show at Rich Stadium (Buffalo/Orchard Park, NY)? This was my first show. I have had the tape for years but it is sort of roached now. My kids are getting old enough to really appreciate this stuff now, and I would like to share a good quality CD of my first show with them. If anyone knows where I can get a copy, please E-mail me at Spartan72@verizon.net Thanks, "I need a miracle"! Todd
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I think I got you covered, Spartan. Check you email.L8r
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Blackpeter & all- Check out the vine for wonderful aural treats. Time travel and multiple location transportation to the venues included at no extra charge. Vine on!
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My wife wants me to clean out my closet and there are a few tapes that I have that I would like to get put on CD and need some one to help. Contact me at vl_griffin@yahoo.com and I will give you what shows I am looking for. Thanks
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I was on tour from 97-2001. Since that time I have married, started college, had two children, and read Presbyterian/Reformed literature. I was wondering if anyone had access to Furthur Festival shows from 1998, 2000? DVD, video, SBD's, or aud. I do not have capabilities to do bit torrent, and there are no flac or mp3's of those concerts...and I cant think of a better christmas present. Can anyone help? I am broke, can can possibly try to send you blank DVDs or CD's. Email me if you can help direct me. Reformation28@Gmail.com
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I'm looking for a clean copy of this stellar show. Have lots to trade; GD, JGB, Ratdog, even some Metallica. PM me if you can help.L8r
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Ed you posted back in July...Well it's November now but if you want you can check your messages.
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Im still looking for any St. Louis shows. If anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Trevor, Check out this link to a list of EVERY show the GOGD played in St. Louis, MO. You can click on the show link from there to check out the setlists of each show, and if it is available on the Archive. Setlists.net is a great resource, and it is linked directly to the Archive -- Check it out, and enjoy! --D00Dah http://www.setlists.net/?search=true&venue=&city=St.+Louis&state=MO&mon… His job is to shed light, not to master...
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February 21, 1970 I'm looking for a copy of this show, or even ANY bits of info regarding it. 'Twas a special day in the life of D00Dah, but I can't seem to find anything more than a City and State they played in that day: San Antonio, TX - of all places! Any help or info would be appreciated. L8r His job is to shed light, not to master...
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My first show; the best I ever heard. After hearing it again on the Archives, its still the best show IMHO for so many reasons I won't bore you with now. If you have these two nights on CD(s), and especially 10/2/77, can I get a copy? Thank you so much.
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Check your pm and if you send your address, I will get you the 10-2-77, I don't have the other show, but have a soundboard of that night.
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I have been looking for a DVD of 7/18/89 Alpine Valley. I have 7/19/89 house video DVD, and of course everyone should have 7/17/89 minus the last 4 songs of first set (Downhill From Here). I would be very happy to trade my 7/19/89 for the middle night 7/18/89. Thanks
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Hey all,I have only a few Gratfeul Dead shows and they are those that most probably already own, so a B and P rather than a trade is probably in order if anyone is willing to lend a hand. I'm looking to get a few, say 3-5 or more, JBG shows, the ones that are generally considered to be the prototype of what Jerry was after when he performed outside of the Grateful Dead (maybe this is impossible in 5 shows or less, nevertheless you know what i'm getting at). Shoot me an email if you could do a B and P of some kind for me. zkinard@ycp.edu Any help is heartfelt and always appreciated. Cheers, Zach zkinard@ycp.edu
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RedGrenadine- have you checked out the Vineyard? There are some tasty JGB shows, Phil & Friends, Ratdog, and of course the good ol' Grateful Dead being shared. As long as you can rip and burn a disc and mail it out, you are in fat city. Take a look, Zach, and jump in. The vine is FINE! Take care, Tim
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Hwy RG - Go check out the Vines on here. There is a JGB from 87 out there that is sweet and Im sure you can find other nuggets too... Eric
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I dont know the exact date but St. Louis Riverport 1994. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Those new matrix mixes of the Greek run from June '85 really hit the spot. From reading the post, it looks like there will be more to come. And thanks to Charlie Miller, or should I say Santa Claus? His job is to shed light, not to master...
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Any established traders have any extra copies of shows they'd be wiling to pass on or who would be able to do a B and P of some of the essential material for me? I'm in on a couple vines, but I'm in desperate need of a fix. Drop me a PM if you can lend a hand. Cheers - Zach
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I've removed your posts because trading commercially released material, including original mixes or rips thereof, is not allowed here. Sorry.
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Hey RedGrenadine (and anyone else intrested) I have over 1000 hours of GD material on cassette which is sitting in my basement and wants to find a good home. I have found the wonderful world of digital high-speed file sharing and have not looked back. If your in the Portland/Vancouver/Seattle drop me a PM and we can arrange a pickup. Please note these are racks of 100 tapes each with years from 65-95 (duh)... They're too heavy to ship but if you want to pay for it let me know. Happy holidays!! Eric
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Hey I appreciate the offer. Thanks so much but I don't have the funds currently to pay for the shipping. I'm sure that someone in the area would be more than willing and luck to take these off your hands. Happy Holidays! Be Easy, Zach
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i'm looking for a greg brown bootlegits from the great american music hall sf i don't remember the date but lucy kaplansky opened up for him and it had '52 vincent' on it i had a copy from a tape trader, but i lost it and can't contact the trader would be glad to pay postage and the price of the bank reach me here, or at: zapme340@hotmail.com thanx