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  • Kate_C.
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    Yes. I suspect Pig was resting from his short reunion tour with the band in December '71 and fortifying his commitment to sobriety in what had to have been an unfathomably difficult lifestyle change (if not in terms of medical necessity, then certainly in practice).

    "Ace" was recorded from January - March '72, but recall that Pig's alcohol-related health problems forced a touring hiatus in August '71 that culminated with hospitalization in September for bleeding ulcers, hepatitis, and spleen problems. He was only able to rejoin the Dead beginning early December in Boston, at which time I recall Phil describing Ron as shockingly frail in his book. Not surprisingly, Pig's contributions are limited, and while progressively more energetic throughout the month (at least to my ears), they are still anemic by historical standards; though by NYE he sounds beat.

    In retrospect, it's a miracle that the Dead community (once and future) got Pig back in functional form for the brilliantly recorded European tour, especially given how quickly he dropped off radar for related health problems afterward.

    EDIT: And yes, "sabbatical" serves as a neat and entirely appropriate bit of shorthand in conversation among those who know....

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    bobby's "Ace" album

    essentially it was a dead album with everyone on board contributing except for Micky who was on a sabbatical, (as i see it) and Pig, why wasnt Pig contributing? was he too sick at the time?

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    CC, your post invites a bit of confusion by suggesting that you saw both the Dead and TSOC on the same NYE bill at Winterland in '69; though 50 years is an understandably long time. It's hard to imagine, but the Dead were not playing on a West Coast home field that December 31st, and were rather in the midst of an odd eastbound triptik that took them to Dallas on 12/26, Hollywood (FL) on 12/28, and the Boston Tea Party on 12/29-30, while closing out at the Fillmore East on 1/2-3/70.

    Indeed, the '69 NYE playbill on the poster you linked does not name the Dead. So TSOC and the GoGD were on opposite coasts at the decade's close. In any event, here's a link to a CM SBD for the Dead's '69 NYE show:
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/12/31?source=87994

    Incidentally, I couldn't find a poster for Boston NYE, but here's one from the night before (it would appear the promo dept. missed the spirit of the "grateful" dead; you'd think an impossibly early incarnation of Maiden was playing that night!):
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YQBsfGwVEeo/TUSkqEWWy3I/AAAAAAAARQs/qRvbGdWK_…

    However, you are correct that the Dead played NYE '70 at Winterland, but, consistent with the playbill cited in Deadbase50, the following promo poster does not show TSOC on the same stage, but rather NRPS, "assorted friends" (apparently Hot Tuna), and Stoneground (note also, "lights by Little Princess 109").
    https://img0.etsystatic.com/030/0/8448089/il_570xN.542921874_q4nc.jpg

    Checking Deadbase, here's a link to what seems the complete NYE '70 show; however, it appears to be mix of AUD and FM broadcast that provides poor sound quality through Cumberland (even so, the Truckin' opener is well worth a listen), but thankfully improves in time for the set's highlights at Cryptical and China>Rider through close at UJB.
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/12/31?source=88719

    Regardless of which show you attended, either would've been a great way to kick off your own personal attendance record! Got a story?/K

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  • DaveStrang
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    You may want to post this on the Dave's Picks 31 thread so more people see it. Most folks are there.

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    I can not find the 1st GD…

    I can not find the 1st GD show I attended anywhere in GD archives. No GD archive lists the same bands that I saw that night, as confirmed by the Sons archive which has the poster from that night:

    <<Wednesday, December 31, 1969: '1969 New Years Eve 1970', Winterland 2000 Post Street at Steiner Street, San Francisco, California
    The band was billed only as 'The Sons' on the poster printed for this show. Also on the bill: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna. Lights by Brotherhood of Light. This show, from 8:00pm to 8:00am, was promoted by Bill Graham Presents In San Francisco.>>
    http://brunoceriotti.weebly.com/the-sons-of-champlin.html

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    How do I update my address for my Dave's subscription? Want to make sure #31 gets safely home!

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    limited releases logic explained

    Could you please explain the logic of "limited releases" as it applies to an "alternative" business model, such as the grateful dead" The "limited release" model is a concept taken from the good old music biznezz, in order to promote sales, keep prices high, and maintain collector value of limited products.
    I "missed" the window for daves pick's 30, a rare release from the year 1970, the first show that I recorded 1/3/70. I was disappointed, but managed to get one on a record/cd selling site. I paid double, but I still saved $$$, as I do not want to purchase a "subscription" to the daves picks yearly releases, as I am primarily interested in obtaining music from the 1966-1970 period, and not many releases are from these years. I guess I could always buy a subscription, and then sell off the unwanted items on another site for a profit, which is what this concept does, encourages a "black market". I do not consider this to be "progressive" in the least. I would rather purchase through GDCORP, as I have in the past, but if GDCORP wants to encourage this type of atmosphere, I am forced to participate in order to get what I want, and I am grateful to the sellers who have made it possible to get what I want. But it sure seems contrary to what Jerry's idea of business was.

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    stay tuned.
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    Hey there! I work for a Farm Craft Brewery in Virginia and we recently got accepted to have taps at the Lockn Music Festival this year. I have created a piece of art that combines our logo and labeling with a Stealie and would love to get it made into shirts for our team and possibly release a small barrel batch of bear grateful dead themed. We of course need right to use the Stealie and want to do things right! Could you please point us in the right direction of making this happen?!

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It was initially on the "Skeleton and Roses" (or Skullfuck) live album. (I believe) and then you can find it on the Dicks Picks Album(s) # 3, 7, 12, 13, 14, 18, 24, 25, 29, 31, 33, and 33 that you can order from the store here. It is one of my favorites and heard the Dead first play that on 616-74 and loved it ever since. It signals classic and emotional dead jams and often is at the heart of wonderful second sets. That is what I know. Get one of those and you will never regret it.
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Oroboros.....thank you so much for such a speedy reply!!! You can't imagine how much I appreciate this....you have truly saved my day!!! Thanks for the extra info....what a bonus!!!! Thank you a million times over!!! :) Dustie
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Hi Folks is the Vine topic going to be restrarted soon as it is almost 500 posts now, if it is i want to sort out the latest posts of all my vines Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Halloween is fast approaching, a DVD release for this date makes alot of sense. Is anything in the works?
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i think the pre order would have been out by now, if there was. Ditto Christmas Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Good thought Bob. I'll probably re-start it in a day or so, so feel free to do whatever preliminary organizing seems right. Thanks!
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if you tell me what changes need to be made where, I'll see what I can do. Thanks!
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Ok, i have had a song in my head for 2 days now, and no one seems to be able to help me. I cant remember all of the words or the song title, and it is driving me insane. I have tired to google it, ive asked some friends and have came up with nothing. I can hear the song in my head and it is bobby singing and the part that is said over and over is "Im going, and i ant't looking back"...anyone have any ideas at all? It would be greatly appricahted
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i seem to remember a topic for above, can't find it now either had one in the bar here yesterday, relating to a certain Sam Cutler Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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Dark Hollow, maybe? "I'm going away/ I'm leaving today? I'm going and I ain't coming back" or some such?
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Strangest of Places, as you've already discovered, is here!
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that you might be thinking of Dark Hollow.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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What happened to "Today in Deadhead History"? Can it be brought back to life? If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. Wiliam Blake
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High, I am looking for a set list maybe even a taping of a show at Darien lake Ny in 2004, I was a magial night for my family, I was hoping some one could help my email is Skippie12701@yahoo.com please feel free to write in you have any info on this show thanks Skip
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I love listening to the weekly tapers choices from david. i miss the mp3 days, but i'm willing to deal with the streaming. but why can't i pony up so $ and buy the damn mp3? we even have the dark star > el paso but i would pay $2.50 for the mp3 to be downloaded. where can i put this request so the money makers will hear?
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Here it is: 08/06/04 (Fri) Darien Lakes Performing Arts Center - Darien Center, NY Set 1: Jam > Jack Straw > Dark Star (jam) > A little Piece For You, Just A Little Light > Loose Lucy > She Said, Help On The Way > Slipknot > Hey Pockey Way > Fire On The Mountain Set 2: Blackbird, Truckin' > 8 Miles High > Dark Star > All That We Are > All Along the Watchtower > Drums > Space > Sugaree > Dark Star > Slipknot > Franklins Tower, E: Ripple When in doubt http://setlist.com/ take care, tim
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many people share your view, and I'm passing your comments to the Rhinos.
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I have about 24 of these cd sets but never bothered to download the cover art (computer illiteracy being the problem) I am more literate now. but I do not know if the dover art is still downloadable. Is it and what do I have to do to download covers for the 24 concerts?
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Have been having alot of trouble obtaining a copy of Dicks Picks #25 (New Haven/Springfield 1978). I tried to order it through a record store who has most of the others on their shelves, to no avail. Tried a few spots on the internet & came up empty also. Any suggestions? Please post an answer or send an email. Many Thanks, Patrick
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hey Patrick just click on STORE over to your left somewhere, follow, music>live recordings, scroll through the pages and there it is..mail order or download at MP3 or FLAC! Hey Dr Rhino, do I get a commission ;-)
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"You'll get nothing...and LIKE IT!" Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket "I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, I felt I owed it to them."
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dammit, every time I try to be a good capitalist I get found out.
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I'd really like to know about product/image licensing.
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this question comes up every now and then and I've forgotten who the right contact is, but I'll find out.
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Just went to put up a comment on Dec 3rd Tapers section and got a "Message Queued for Moderation .. what gives. As far as I know I have always been polite and otherwise well behaved? Free speech anyone? B
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My post here is queued for screening by a Moderator also. Did you folks change your web hosting site to one in China?
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... sporadic demonic possession, seemingly. More weirdly still, they were NOT in the moderation queue this morning. Believe me, it's a bad-software problem, not a control-freak human problem. Sorry for the trouble. Restoring your posts now...
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Hello, I am currently searching for a recording of the Capital Centre show from March 17, 1991 and the Palace show from August 1, 1994. I REALLY need these shows. I'm trying to get them before Christmas and I have looked everywhere! PLEASE HELP. I hope your day is being filled with sunshine and daydreams. If you can help, I will be eternally grateful. One luv, Nora.
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How come my fan photo's haven't posted yet? It has been over 24 hours. Thanks.
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I'll go check it out right now.
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apologies to all whose fan photos were stuck in the queue. Both of us mods were a bit incapacitated what with one thing and another, and let me just say Do Not Get The Flu That's Going Around, and Keep Those Fan Photos Coming. If you posted one and it's still MIA, lemme know. Thanks!
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I just ordered a CD which I thought was a new GD release called "Not Fade Away". Upon furthur checking I discovered that this is a low quality import. Do the band members get any compensation for products like this? Brian Michaelson
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i just joined but i can't seem to post a new forum topic. what gives?
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It's true, this is set up so only mods (i.e. izzie and I ) can start topics. However, if you send either of us a message about a topic you'd like started, we're usually pretty responsive. Maybe a little slower with the holidays, but just let us know and we'll do our best. Thanks!
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I'm trying in vain to find any bio info on artist Michael Everett. I have only found vague snips around the web...thanks much
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Is quite the mystery man. I have tried to find out some info about him. I just know that he is an awesome artist that does alot of posters for concerts and feativals.. Even his site Terripan Productions says it has his bio but when you click into it, it just shows a picture of a snake. Yep good question!! Peace :)
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be very careful with this. There are a lot of bootleg GD DVDs flying around Europe which are in fact hacked together compilations from various VFTV and other releases. I pointed this out to Rhino a while back and they all disappeared from Amazon soon after. The set list for this one (from Play.com) makes me suspect it is something similar...... # Bertha # Little Red Rooster # When Push Comes To Shove # Bird Song # The Music Never Stopped # Hell In A Bucket \ Happy New Year # Uncle John's Band # Lady With A Fan # Terrapin Station # The Other One # Wharf Rat # Throwing Stones # Not Fade Away # Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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Yup its another bootleg of 'Ticket to New Year's' Looks like another job for Rhino's lawyers Marye. We should send them a bill!
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Happy New Year to Everyone! I see from posts above that we cannot post new topics. I'm looking for some recommendations from the dead.net store on some live acoustic dead. Any suggestions? Thanks! :) Mike D
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check out internet archive...Grateful Dead Live at McFarlin Auditorium, S.M.U. on 1969-12-26 (December 26, 1969) a grate acoustic set, that you can download!! Lots of other show too!! Peace :)
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I believe there you will discover several tasty acoustic selections waiting for your perusal.
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Not sure really what the value is in adding this info to the posts. Why is it important? You can look it up if you want to. If the techies have that much time on their hands please ask them to fix the system to DISPLAY THE LAST POST FIRST. Now that would be useful!
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ha ha!
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289 shows for me, to bad I don't remember all of them :)