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  • ripple70
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    whats about
    were wolves of london wembley halloween 90 or anything from rockpalast essen oh oh shakedown st essen.
  • Brother Esau
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    radio program dead in europe
    i have a small radio program here in valencia spain one hour twice a month. i was thinking of doing a show composed of grateful dead performances in europe. anybody want to help me out with suggestions? ideally, there would be something from each tour, and spread out from different venues adn different countries. obviously there need to be high qualtiy recordings easily accesible. ratdog also counts, i think. remember it's only an hour long show, so "the entire second set from wembley" is not going to fit. let's hear your opinions on the best performances, single song or song sequence (china cat > rider, etc.) from europe. BTW sorry this isn't a contest, no one will be sending you a free copy of road trips vol. 1 2 or 3, but you'll make my life easier and my listeners happier.
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    close but no cigar
    if that is as close as it gets, i guess the answer is no. i'll even concede the 2nd sets as identical and even the 1st encore is the same. but the first sets only have some similarities. i'll admit i'm surprised. i would have thought that it had to happen at least once, the truth is i'm surprised that that is offered up as the only time a second set was repeated. with far less songs, the probability would be much higher
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    identical setlists Gonzo's answer
    In August Lamagonzo posted this on another forum http://www.dead.net/features/august-23-august-29-2010?page=1 this is what he said. ---------------------------------------- 'The question of 2 identical show lists is a factoid I obsessed on for some time until satisfying myself that I had the definitive answer. The answer is never, but almost. The entire 2nd set is virtually identical except for a Nobody's jam. The dates are, drum roll please, Prov. 5/14/78 and and UCSB 6/4/78 Read'em and weep.' --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COME BACK GONZO
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    I'd check with the DeadBase folks (who are in any case putting together a new edition). I vaguely recall hearing that there were something like one or two instances of duplicate setlists over the band's entire career, but the discussion in question was many years ago so I'm not sure the recollection should be trusted!
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    curiosity gets the better of mepeace esau.
  • Brother Esau
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    i certainly wouldn't bother
    i certainly wouldn't bother researching it. just curious.
  • ripple70
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    repeat shows brother esau
    This has come up in forums before esau and some one said gonzo i think that no two shows have ever been the same now i could research this but aint got the time maybe some one else knows more........
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    before anyone points it out i want to apologize to Workingman's Deed from Scotland! I also read a post at eurotraders that suggested that laffin bones might get together again. any word on that?
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    european dead tribute bands
    here is a list of what i believe to be all the dead tribute bands currently active in europe or at least still maintain a web presence. can anyone think of any others? please send me the contact information if you do. (CZECH REPUBLIC) Bardo Thödol (DENMARK) Seven'th Heaven (FRANCE) Deadicace (GERMANY) Cosmic Finger Dead Again OE Kapelle S.A.M. Schluff Jull That's Wooden Music (SWEDEN) Mushroom Pickers Uncle John's Band (SWITZERLAND) Fresh Kneedrops (UNITED KINGDOM) Cosmic Charlies
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Gather here and tell us your stories! And thanks to TigerLilly for the suggestion!
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Yeah, how about chilling out or us Yankee colonists will thave to intervene in the motherlands to straighten things out once again. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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thanks gratefumom. i really do not undferstand all the fuzz anyway......
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I was thinking more along the lines of Wavy Gravy. If George came you may have to keep him, we might not let him back in here. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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wow,you are really the best from the hal series...just came back from wavy gravys homepage! peace frankly
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Reading posts in several forums on this website, I was sure this is supposed to be a friendly and tolerant place. Always enjoying these, I felt home soon. With my previous post I did not want to show my disrespect, neither to the spirit, in which people gather here, nor the good people/members around. Now after some of you pointed out that I was right, in expecting that it probably is not appropriate to respond the way I did, I apologize and promise that I won't do it again. Peace & Music, andré
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Glad you are aboard our bus If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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good on you Andre!
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if you hear it rumblethan it is the stone falling from my heart...whereelse if not here open communication should be possible....PEACE TO ALL!! Frankly
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Thanks, an appropriate awful lot, HalR and cosmicbadger (so far). from the bottom of my Dead and gentle heart. andré
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peace seems to be restored and good vibes prevailing once again, with various good souls having done nice work. Hence I see no need to do the mod thing and get all authoritarian. Personally, I loved Frankly's story AND Andre's story. I think it is now clear to all that our collective hearts are still a bit tender from that day and looking out for each other's feelings is a good thing. Thank you all.
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hi mary!yesterday i learned two important lessons for myself 1.Thou shall not talk any bullshit on public forums!and far more important 2.thou shall not talk more bullshit trying to defend your stupidity! Sorry nobodys perfect Frankly
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Have a good day! Actually there is plenty of outrageous BS on this site, but its not the personal kind ;-)
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yeah,your right.thats exactly the point one should be aware not to ignore..!
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Nobody's perfect on this bus, but we muddle along. Thanks!
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a wild ride with lots of sudden curves If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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my life goes along with a wild ride and sudden curves,as long as i have good vibes to hang on to,i will gladly muddle along on this long,strange trip which lies ahead for all of us on mother earth!P.S.i have a 20 year old son that i have raised alone so the ride and the curves are nearly becoming familiar! thanks to you all for the good vibrations:-)!
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as i am an complete foreigner to technique,it took me awhile how to be able to introduce myself my site.but hooray,with my head getting hot i made it and if somebody of you deadheads out there wants to know more about me..just click!!! i hope to read from someone,somewhere soon..and let there be songs to fill the air PEACE
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And tell those of us who are old enough to remember 1968 what things are like in Prague now.
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you still with us?
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... furthur, etc.!
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I so enjoy all the good stuff going on here. And I admit, I am darn hungry for contacts with good people, who will never ever have the idea to make other than good jokes about such an "outing" ... sometimes I am not sure, if my English is correct/understandable (any Dr. Doolittles around ?). So I use quotation marks and brackets and ...s. Not to forget my dictionary. Be sure, a lot of time, too. And after solving a problem (please have a look in the technical-discussions section of the traders forum. Maybe you're the one ...), I will be able to give something back, aside of ... Well, Just Ask. I'd love to start some vines, in case MEV (master euro viner .... I so hate shortcuts / Mary, there should be a list of all of 'em, sent to rookies !!!) Bob has no problem with it :+) I am quite sure, after I joined this space two weeks ago, I will stay Dead 'til I drop. Svaha ! andré
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as the people got rid of their red gods in 89,complete anarchy broke out.the cops were anxious to intervene on most cases and so freedom started coming to town.for example bars which had to close at 8 oclock in the evening suddenly were open 24 hours a day.Pot could be smoked openly everywhere.there was a place called roxy(yes)where acid test like events were taking place...it was fun.a guy rented the groundfloor of a building where the secretary of interiour affairs had his offices,and opened up a place for skaters,musicians ,freaks which soon became the place where to smoke and openly score .the officials where not amused,but the man had a 15 year long contract with them.(this place still exists-the TAZ)on the other side of the street there was the american-run"THIRSTY DOG"...but this could not last.most of the places were people used to have good time where simply bought at such a price that no owner would hesitate,and the rest was slowly ,year after year,ruined by bureaucratical terror.today prague is a city made for tourists with prices skyrocketing into unknown spheres.the bar i spent the day of jerrys dead,was called the "singers place" because its nearby the national theater and had a more than 150 year long tradition of them opera singers coming in after the show and partying wildly into the other day.Today this place is a yuppie restaurant where a little beer start at 10 Dollars,and yes now it is called la trattoria.old habbits start coming back,like when 2000 cops burst into a legal gathering on a field which the organizers had rented.kids were beaten up,plastic bullets were used,and just because these young people wanted to listen to music.See,the powers to be are still afraid of this....well we will see how this story continues!!P.S.the good thing is that foreign groups that are coming to town are not well known.Which means you could see phish in a place for 300 people.and than we have the rock-bar,which really is a bar.i saw bella fleck,courtney pine,bobby mcferrin and more. standing in front of the musicians.no need for security,just a string around the band!there are pros and cons everywhere ,but in todays prague there pretty extreme.....!!! everybody have a nice time
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hallo bob,must be great living in paradise,but i just wanted to ask you,do you know LOLE Y MANUEL and are they still around....thanks and have a nice and sunny day:-)!
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For a deadhead who lives and works over here in Germany, its a breath of fresh air to know there are normal people riding this planet.....
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Deadhead who lives and works over here in Germany Jeff ! So now it's my pleasure to pass the recent newbie torch to you. Born, unemployed and living in Germany andré
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Andre Love GD Rockin the Rhine I have a question my family is from Germany (1920) we have a lot of relatives there my last name is Mihm do you have any idea what that means? It's always been a source of amusement because people spell it and pronounce it different ways. Hope all is well BobbaLee Miami Fl And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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I am sorry, but "Mihm" just does not sound and look German, not even if I would consider the source was an audience recording from the 127 row :+) This looks like a German way to write down some kind of Asian, maybe Vietnamese, name. Justthe way I once named a band DUHSSAM (which is spoken English, written down), and the follow up was named DUHSSAMTUH (which is even more "sophisticated", as the tuh is two/too (meanings) ... So I am sorry to have not uncovered the Mihm secret. And I am afraid to have added another path of amusement to your family name thang. Hope all stays well, andré from düsseldorf
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Andre thanks for writing We have a lot relatives in what used to be East Germany I have googled it and there was a German Rock band with two "Mihm" brothers, also an architectural firm with Mihm as an owner. MY claim to fame is that I have a second nephew named Chris Mihm who is a center for the Los Angles Lakers basketball team- he is 7 '2". Ill look up Dusseldorf on a map to see where you live. Take care And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Bobba Lee, Now it is plain to see, that I know little about former East Germany. But as you have relatives there, one of them might know, what this name means and where it comes from. I am 6'3" and until the end of the '76 summer holidays I never had encountered people taller than me. I was 20 and there was this 15 or 16 year old, who was more than one head taller than me. Within a short period of time, I saw some more of these lantern like people. And my system had to adjust to this. And well, the road goes on forever .... andré
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Am here sporatically, and in spirit more often. Just don't have too much to say at the moment.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Just noticed is a chat room. How long has that been there? ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Glad to "see" you again. "If the forms of this world die, which is more real, the me that dies or the me that's infinite? Can I trust my habitual mind, or do I need to learn to look beneath those things?"
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andre,its wonderful how u spit out one good joke after another concerning somebodys name(which in germany exists 573 times,so it moght not b vietnamese)and the little irony about easr germans,thats just delightful..keep on keepin it on!!:-)(-:peace Frankly
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After looking up all meanings of "spit (out)" in my dictionary, I am not sure if your post starts with a compliment for parts of my previous posts. If it does, I am not sure whether to thank you or not. For reasons as follow. I never ever make jokes about somebody's name, except I am very sure the person, who's name I am joking about, won't get her/his feelings hurt. And I won't start to argue, whether 573 times is a lot for a family name in a country with ... no I won't google the exact number, but it will be a bit less than 15,000 times 573 citizens. Nor do I know how many family names in total are used in this country. So I can't say whether 573 times is average, next to nothing or among the top 100 names of such a list. I also did not write something with a "little irony" about people from former East Germany in my back and forth of posts with BobbaLee. As I know next to nothing about these Germans first hand, I would never do so. And well, the few jokes, I know about East Germans, first of all tell me a lot about the prejudices, lack of understanding and respect of the people telling them. And that is a part of human behaviour, I will never ever accept. As a poet and storyteller I am serious about what to say/write which way, even when I am in the funny mode. So when communicating in English. I edit quite a lot. For example to erase everything I don't mean (even "between the lines"). And I know that I sometimes fail with this. But such is life. So ... Now I could wonder about what has been "just delightful" to you. But well, I just don't. have a nice day, peace (to me starts with true understanding), andré
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Since I've lived in Germany since 2003 I thought I should ask around. My friend who is a teacher has never heard the name before nor have I. Apparently it doesn't have a meaning in German. Perhaps it did in some long ago past. Such is the way language develops and changes over time. It sounds German in some sort of way, to me at least. Although it could be a Germanificated name of a family that emigrated to Germany from somewhere else. Many Jewish names are such. With such a small number of occurrences of the name in Germany they are probably all related to u! Isn't that fantastic! If you know the name(s) of the forefathers who came from there, where they embarked from (the port, probably Hamburg), and what year, you could really find out a lot. The Mormon church has a data base on the internet u can use to find out about your family tree. If u google it u will find it. It's free, u just type in the family name, easy! Churches in Germany and much of Europe have recorded births and baptisms going back many centuries. The Mormons scanned all these records. I found out about the website when I was in Denmark checking some of my family stuff at their national records library. There is a new museum in Hamburg on the theme of emigration. They have, or are setting up an online database of those records of passengers who left from here. That should be handy! Another possibility for this unusual name is that it could be from a small minority, Germanys only native ethnic minority. They live around the Lubben and Lubbenau area in eastern Germany. They are called the Sorbs and are of Slavic decent. East Germans are lovely down to earth people if I may generalize. They are not so money focussed as many in West Germany. East Germans are called Ossies. It means easterners kinda, ost means east in German. There are jokes about Ossies, and Friesians and etc... as u get in every part of the world. The Germans do have a sort of sense of humour believe it or not. I once taught English in a top secret Tank design facility here and asked the students if they thought Germany has a good reputation for tanks. We were talking about marketing product. They replied in the affirmative. I said, "even after losing the last two world wars?" with a chuckle and they were laughing quite a bit. ;) Are you kind?
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Hey guys its just my last name This much i do know my great grandfather was in the GErman Calvary in World War 1 his brother Augustin and himself were captured by the French and were in POW camps for 4 years They emigrated to Pittsburgh Pennslyvania USA in 1920. My uncles all went to Germany I think in 1994 for a family reunion of Mihms and Eichenmuellers (my grandmothers family). The Eichenmuellers own Germanys oldest flour mill. I appreciate all of your advice and look for ward to talking with you and who knows visiting Germany some day and having a Greatful Dead festival! Bob And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Hello folks, and thanks, Mary! Have been unable to access the forum since before Christmas, which is also why I haven't been able to pass on Eurovine 1, for which my apologies. All is well, I have the address and the vine will be moving again.
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and sorry for all the technical difficulties.
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And I missed it! Last Sunday night we sat at home not doing anything in particular. At the same time near us, in Amsterdam, was a festival in The Melkweg (The Milkey Way) where Dark Star Orchestra, a Grateful Dead cover band, played. It was not until the next morning that I found out. I am sure it was a nice concert and we certainly would have gone there if only we had known. Ship of Fools
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I bet it was great. What show did they play? (They often do the setlist from a particular Dead show.) The Melkweg would have been a natural of course...