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  • TigerLilly
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    what Badger said! Was TOTALLY with you, until you mentioned Russia Today. But otherwise very well-written and reflective essay that I absolutely agree with!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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    well I was with you more or less Jonapi until you recommened RT (Russia Today) It does indeed provide a different viewpoint from that of the Euro/US media and can be interesting and illuminating. But folks should be very much aware that it is owned and controlled by the Russian State. Very bad things tend to happen to journalists who present truly different viewpoints there. Just saying.
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    Thats should've been China "going into Africa" not South Africa. But don't worry, lots of people won't know the difference....
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    Well, coming from England, it was kinda surprising that the Dead suddenly got behind Obama. Lesser of the two evils, right? There is no doubting that an intelligent, educated black man (kinda black) as President in America gave/gives an incredible amount of inspiration to young African-Americans, and others, whether they choose to enter politics or not; after interminable years being treated as a lower life form (er, not sure that's changed much actually), it WAS wonderful to see Obama elected. I watched in the UK as it unfolded that night and was mighty relieved. McCain and Palin? Jesus Christ..... But we all know that the President doesn't really have much influence over policies/laws etc. He's just there. That's pretty much it. If you look at the way he spoke during his recent TV statement regarding the pulling of troops out of Afghanistan, his body language is dangerously beginning to take on the tics and habits of leaders the world over (and i use the word leader quite wrongly, children). Why these people all seem to talk in that overly dramatic intonation i don't know. In fact, the more relaxed he seems the worse it looks; I guess he's convinced himself that people will swallow what he has to say and believe the words have sincerity. And in most cases, he would be right. I think the majority of Americans DO believe what their Presidents say, thanks to your appalling news stations. Ours aren't much better either, but we're not quite on your level....yet. YET! There just seems to be an incredible amount of paranoia in the American government (which in turn, seeps into the population). It really isn't that much different to China or North Korea. Sure, it manifests in a slightly different way, but that constant fear mixed with insecurity, and the need to dominate and control has produced some horrific results around the world and for US citizens themselves (results which the UK are MORE than happy to support, running along like some annoying little puppy, that just won't stop following your every step and humping your leg). The war in Afghanistan is just one example. Your governments's murderous foreign policy has determined that America is pretty much hated around the world. Which is a travesty because, the PEOPLE are some of the warmest, most hospitable, open, optimistic human beings you could care to meet. We'll skip over the scenes of the crowds in New York, jumping up down, pumping those fists, yelling "U.S.A, U.S.A....", (i was expecting a "sieg heil" at some point) at the news of Bin Laden's death. Horrible images. Not unexpected but nauseating all the same. Remember folks, it was that kind of behaviour that got you 9/11 in the first place. You keep poking someone in the ribs long enough they WILL explode sooner or later. Do people in America REALLY believe that Bin Laden was in control and that now gone, we can breath a huge collective sigh of relief? Was he sitting in a bunker furnished like the NASA Flight Control Room, surrounded by live camera action of street corners around the world, ordering up suicide bombers like one orders a pizza? "Okay, okay, we'll have one 16 year old female, extra peroxide, easy on the nitroglycerine; please send to the corner of 4th and Capitalism in New York." He's not sitting there directing it all, "one for Pakistan, one for Spain, one for London...". The Middle Eastern personality is completely different to the Western one. It needs to be understood a little better. It requires digging out the ol' history books, not listening to Fox and CNN. Or the BBC. One of many things we DO stand united in, is the wish to be left alone; to follow one's own religion (or not) and live one's life in a peaceful manner. FREE from interference. It may be contrary to our own beliefs but that's none of anyone's business. Who's to say what's right? There is a real danger of things getting worse too. I'm an optimistic person but we do have to keep our eye's open here. The US is bankrupt, China's economy is growing at an alarming rate, they have the money to invest (and then control). Look at how they've gone into South Africa. And none of that money is staying in that country, you can be sure of that. Just today the news reported that China is willing to help struggling European countries, through lending and investment. I for one am extremely concerned of accepting such an offer. We'd be forever in debt and not just in a monetary sense. Shades of the US's help to the UK after the Second World War. One of the reasons why the British Government do everything you tell us to over sixty five years later and counting. As for Japan and the nuclear disaster? Well, that's a loooong topic of conversation. Again, an incredibly incompetent government. The last Prime Minister was something else. We're talking George Bush levels of retardation. But again, the nuclear industry is HUGE business; much too much invested in it, much to lucrative. And again, the US leads the way....large donations to Obama's campaign from a certain company (based in Chicago wasn't it? forget the name) so he's not going to interfere. Certainly not with an election coming up, if EVER. It was the US who requested that Japan dumped the radioactive waste into the sea. You'd think that after Obama's indignation at the BP Executives' strategies to combat the oil spill that he just might, just miiiiight give wee bit more than a shit. But then it's likely to effect "foreigners" right, so who fucking cares? No surprise then that most of the news stations have dropped this story. And not just in the US either. The BBC has also conveniently dropped coverage. Other more important stories, right? Like Syria, Libya..... God bless you America, you sure know how to start somethin' don't ya?!!! Pity you've been financing these regimes for so long until they come back to bite you on the ass. (As much as Gaddafi is mighty unpleasant, to put it mildly, him not wanting to join the IMF and have a separate currency effectively signed his own death warrant. Not SUCH a bad thing but...). It's not about Democracy, it's not about Human Rights, its about POWER. GREED. ACCUMULATION. WEALTH. I notice no help is forthcoming to the Tibetan people. Still. But then that country has nothing of any use, so fuck it. Plus i'm pretty sure that China has a fair bit of minerals............. I must make clear here, that i'm in no way down on the US (well, not the people anyhoo). I can talk about the UK's shocking behaviour through the years for days and days. We have some real beauties. But thought i'd start here...... Lastly, i'd recommend RT (formerly Russia Today) as an alternative news source. Again, it is a news station so don't believe everything you see or hear but it raises some interesting topics/points. Has a good segment called The Keiser Report by Max Keiser, an American. He also has a programme on Resonance FM, a UK based radio station, available online - http://resonancefm.com/ check out Max Keiser here - http://maxkeiser.com/ and here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser real good guy.
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    In 2008 Grateful Dead re-united for Obama. With Obama expanding the wars, you'd figure former members would apologize for thier unwise endorsement of Obama. Now I realize that McCain was no better. So this isn't a partisan question. But even the withdrawl of the surge in Afghanistan, this war will not end, it is too profitable . Does this concern The organization and more importantly does it bother my fellow Deadheads? Sincerely P. Shawn
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    it's toxic pollution from the nuclear reactor in Japan. Gone now.
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    You know who else made a lot of money, corrupt politicians! Now we got the boys coming home to NO jobs and (I bet) a rising tide of opium. Pulling surge troops out is the first step to a phased withdrawl down to 60,000 in about 10 years. Phased reductions are still in progress in Iraq to bring troop totals down to 50,000. Get used to a deployment in that unstable region to more than 100,000 troops for as long as you live. Is that not mind-boggling? We WILL NEVER reform Iraqis and Afghan's and that whole canard was just buying time for systematic destruction of large numbers of AQ. It's time to bring every troop home NOW! and spend the deployment money and to start slashing the military budget by 3% to start and develop a giant jobs program. John McCain bemoans an attitude of withdrawing to fortress America and I say to hell with him and tear down the walls. It doesn't have to be this way. If we leave people alone they won't bother us. Way too simplistic? You betcha' The US military has and continues to bother and kill people all over the globe in "our national interests" which seem to be giving Goldman Sachs all the money they want, whenever they want it. The US is now a giant, glittering death star about to run out of money with priorities that would make Caligula proud. Who wrote the plot for this story because I really want to know how it ends before I die, and I'm sure I'll be dead before the final line is written. Rant over. Time for vacation.
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    President Obama did pledge to bring our troops home
    And now he's about to do it. Remember, the previous prez started this mess. It's good to end our involvement despite the losses we've incurred. The military-industrial complex has made $$$. The new Summer Solstice Trivia forum topic has no place to give an answer.
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    I don't have any kids, I have no desire to be financially wealthy, I live in one of the best places on Earth with mountains, rivers, forests and an ocean out my back door. Guess I ought to just shut up and live for the day and let others try to solve the world's problems. What a wonderful world this would be
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Nuclear power! Carcinogenic cell phones! The Stanley Cup! and the usual parade of kids dancing and shaking their bones, politicians throwing stones, etc. Discuss.

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Did anyone happen to realize that Reason And Rhyme: Bluegrass Songs By Robert Hunter & Jim Lauderdale was nominated for teh Grammy's? It's hard to believe, but the Grammy's are now selecting people who have musical talent! (Robert Hunter, Warren Haynes, Tedeschi-Trucks.. ETC)
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Did anyone happen to notice that Reason And Rhyme: Bluegrass Songs By Robert Hunter & Jim Lauderdale was nominated for a Grammy? It's hard to believe but the Grammy's are actually nominating acts that have musical talent! (Robert Hunter, "Weird Al" Yankovic, Gregg Allman, Warren Haynes, Tedeschi-Trucks.... ETC) Shame the Europa '72 Box Set wasn't on the list for Best Boxed Or Special Limited Edition Package
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The only good thing to come out of that war was the downfall of Saddam Hussein and his murderous clan. The only question after 4500 American dead military is: Was it worth it? We know after Bush Jr. blew Valerie Plame's ID away as a CIA agent that the real reason wasn't WMD, it was to settle a score, Texas style cause Saddam hatched a plot against his father after Kuwait. Plain and simple. These are the people who have led our country and caused others to make the ultimate sacrifice. What bullshit! Bush is a war criminal. Cheney is a war criminal Take them to the Hague and chain them to the dock for 2 year trials.
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900,000 accidents(!!!)almost 3100 deaths in 2010 What more evidence do you want. NO more cell phones (hands free or not, texting or not). The sentence schedule should be: 1st offense: 2 years suspension of license 2nd offense: 5 years suspension 3rd offense: LIFETIME SUSPENSION! Think about it this way. You may not do it but you drive on the road every day with your loved ones. How would you like some 18 year-old texting and crossing the center line at 55mph? How selfish. Turrn the fucking thing off! ~ Train 102 is on the wrong track & heading for you ~
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Texting: the new DUI... It really is a little unnerving how many of the current crop of traffic fatalities are due to cell phones, though. Including and especially train wrecks, at least in California--I can think of at least two spectacular ones in the last few years, one involving the engineer and one involving a truck driver who plowed right into the California Zephyr.
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'The only question after 4500 American dead military is: Was it worth it?' maybe the families of the more than 100,000 dead Iraquis are asking the same question....
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And thank you for bringing it up. The dead and wounded Iraqis are estimated to be 600,000. Throw in domestic and foreign contracrors, probably 5000 more. An unconscionable slaughter by any test. NO, the question must be answered, it wasn't worth it
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appallingly, we could be discussing the very same thing in regards to Syrians soon. just when WILL the U.S. learn? your government is ultimately putting the entire world at risk. again. it's not enough to suffer natural disasters (or manmade "natural disasters"); catastrophic events like flooding, earthquakes and tsunamis; 20,000 Japanese suspected to be dead or missing. families destroyed. generations removed. murders, accidents, religious discontent that has killed and kills more and more human beings every day. unforeseen health issues that stop a baby's, child's and adult's life dead in its tracks. but don't stop there..... let's beat our chests, grease up the coffers and ruthlessly inflate our egos in an impotent display to hurt, torture and murder innocent lives. you could almost laugh if it weren't for crying. just another broken heart...
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To the Iraq invasion, a my-age Providence (RI) Journal columnist came out in favor of the war. I was quite dismayed and more than a little surprised, since until that time I had thought that we had pretty similar viewpoints. I shot off an email to him with a series of points to consider, to reconsider. It wasn't a letter-to-the-editor, but a more direct personal entreaty to try to change his mind. A couple of weeks later, he wrote a follow-up column in which excerpted comments from several of his readers, including one of mine. He honed in on the most impassioned of my points, which was this: "do you believe so strongly in the 'cause' that is fueling this war-fervor that you are willing to give up your life for it? The lives of your children? Are you willing to have the blood of innocent children on your hands? If the answer is 'no,' then you have no business promoting ANY war, and most especially this one." This all so very personal to me, and I know that my attitude is largely fueled by growing up with the constant looming threat of being drafted to fight in Vietnam. Put aside the geo-petro politics, the business-interest influence, the Bush-team vendetta -- killing is wrong and I need a very imminent threat to life and home to condone organizing the deployment of a massive kill team to prosecute a war in my name. It has become so much easier to kill from a distance (drones, the most recent innovation. Sleep in your own home and attack a target half a world away during your work hours...aside from pushing the button on the ICBMs, I can't imagine a more detached and immoral way to kill, when the only physical danger you may face is the risk of a paper cut), and without a military draft any war fought by the US carries no risk of personal involvement by the average US non-GI Joe. We've managed to carry on our 21st century wars without it ever really seeming as if the country was at war at all...except to the direct participants and their families. Well, if we are going to be at war, we all better be cognizant of the human consequences and of our personal complicity in the taking of lives -- lives on both sides of the conflict. The Iraq war was never worth it. It'll be decades before we can really look at the consequences to determine (guess at, as we have no clue as to the consequences of not fighting the war) whether we did more harm than good. Do the war dead get a vote?
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Really well written post, Dean!BRAVO!
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yes, a wonderful thought provoking post.its such detachment and desensitization that allows us to eradicate human life without ever really feeling we're involved. but it's also important to learn the lessons from past conflicts and understand the suffering that some soldiers and their families may have to endure. there are many reasons why individuals join the armed forces, some of them never expecting or comprehending just what it would entail. the amount of U.S. life left dead is nowhere near the amount of innocent Iraqi civilians but this just highlights the fact that in war, if proof were ever needed, no one ever truly wins. we mustn't allow ourselves to fall into the trap; the ease with which independent bystanders can sit, imaginary pipes puffed and heads held aloft and castigate and make devastating judgments (of which i'm sadly all too prone) on others in the knowing luxury of our living rooms, comfortably removed. lives are destroyed, with the privileged few pushing the buttons, determining the horror and mental anguish that will surely follow; we must think clearly and treat this situation with sensitivity and respect. true, some involved will have no regrets whatsoever. but some lives will be ripped apart and will cost them and their families dearly, maybe forever. read the harrowing book "Human Shrapnel" by Bill Shields for an insight into the human cost of warfare, a soldier left mentally eviscerated, then shunned by his country upon return. pain and suffering is all one will achieve through war. no justice, just manipulation, greed and hurt. we must not tar everyone with the same brush. there are, hard to believe when we're passionate about such immoral behaviour, innocents on all sides. no one ever truly wins. (i wrote a much better piece earlier but the computer crashed halfway through, losing everything; FUCKING thing). sorry.
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The oligarchs control the politicians and they declare the wars. Their objectives are based on raw materials and labor and markets. They depend on "think-tanks" for guidance. Morality has absolutely nothing to do with it. If it did, we would have had a multi-national force in Rwanda in the 90s. National pride cannot be discounted also if the Falklands war is any indication. That is why we are surely heading for a war with Pakistan and Iran. Pakistan has about 5-20 nukes and Iran is closer to 2 than 3 years from developing a operational theatre nuclear-tipped missile. I think the only dividing reason between Israel and the US executing the Iran war-strike is who has the better ordnance. Given the deeply reinforced concrete tunnels Iran has constructed I think we can look forward to mini-nukes to bust the bunkers. The oligarchs reason for a hamstrung Iran is to keep the oil moving. Pakistan is out-to-lunch and so unstable that it is imperative that their nukes be taken away from them lest terrorists get their hands on one. Afghanistan's war will be over in 2014, hopefully. Who has won? I would say the warlords in coalition with the Taliban. Nobody holds on to a desolate piece of rock. When the foreigners go it will be back to business as usual. The rich 1% are the only ones who want these wars, aside from religious extremists and they have become woefully anachronistic. Look at the progress of computers and look at the progress of human beings. Negative emotions are killing us and machines lack emotion. It would seem that if human beings are to survive our destiny must be put in the hands of computers with programs written by Tibetan Lamas. Rise of the Nanny-Bots!
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Iran and Pakistan do not pose a threat.if they do, they have been goaded into this reasoning by manipulation and coercion. this isn't to say they are pure and innocent; all sweetness and light, but constant taunting and secretive yet blatant twisting of the screws; willful moulding and oleaginous and self-serving influence on a data, media and psychological level will provoke them into doing the very things the West "abhors" (and i use that word most wrongly, children), giving the bullies a self imposed justification for invasion, occupancy, torture, murder and control. it's sickeningly smug and easy when you think about it; lies, discrimination, falsification and corruption, can guide a hand to commit atrocities in an agenda never previously considered. by this same token, when will other countries decide to liberate the U.S.? or Europe? or the UK? when is our turn, that a group of people decide that we need a democracy (lets not kid ourselves that we live in one; it's barely concealed. better than most, but injustice is entertained on a major scale here. look at the recent signing and approval by the White House, President, House Of Representatives and others regarding the law concerning holding "terror" suspects (and i use that word quite wrongly, children) for indefinite periods without any kind of investigation or charge, reason or rhyme. how charming. a drone recently crashed in Tehran. the U.S. asked for it's immediate return. i think that tells you all one needs to know about the mind set we're dealing with. i promised myself i wouldn't respond to negativity and pessimism; but things are too hard to take. i wash my hands of this stain on humankind. we must aim higher.
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Tom Brady and the Patriots rolled over Tebow and the Broncos. No fourth quartermiracle for God's quarterback. Surprisingly, the Pats. secondary played wirth some cohesion. Brady had an average day and hit almost every receiver except Ochocinco multiple times and they scored more than 40 points. It's hard not to get excited about the Pats. but the playoffs are looming.
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Nothing like starting your Monday off with in-depth analysis of Chinese basketball players by a Chinese fan who has probably never heard the Grateful Dead. And that topped off by a spammer, the cherry on that strange-flavored cake!
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The North Korean people are long-suffering, living on food hand-outs from China. This paternal line regime change is not expected to bring change to the regional politics of the area. It would appear that their missile and nuclear programs are in disarray and a large majority of the population suffers from malnutrition. The only caveat here is: How desperate will the new leader get? He could start a war. The last incident of sinking a S. Korean destroyer brought diplomatic temps. to a boil. A larger provocation would involve supreme patience from S. Korea. It is highly likely that the US would become involved in some capacity and so would the Chinese. Very dangerous flashpoint. So, hopefully, N.Korea's new leader (with only several years in a Western prep school) has a level head and moves the two Koreas toward unification in the same way collapsing support from the USSR brought the Germanys together. Nice thought, but not good odds.
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I vote that the post about burning Palestinian children gets yanked out of here. Anybody agree, or is that just me hating that one?
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weirdos are always with us, even spambot weirdos. Hey, Warren Hellman died too, this is worse than stupid spambots.
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just a quick message for anyone interested to sign a petition to help release Peter Aziz, the shaman healer who has been jailed for 15 months for administering Ayahuasca to a small group at a healing ceremony.he has studied shamanism for over 35 years and dedicates his life to helping others, barely making a living, enough to cover the basics for him and his family who live in a small council house. another case of natural plants being demonised and completely misunderstood. the petition is here - http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/release-peter-aziz/ his website is here - http://www.azizshamanism.com/ the newspaper article on his jailing is here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/02/shaman-jailed-over-hallucinoge… they need at least 15,000 signatures. any help by all you fellow Heads would be much appreciated. jonapi.
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...are often picked on, Jonapi. I think the fear from the other side comes from people like this guy in Knoxville who has a NAC license to lead peyote ceremonies. The guy turns out to have helped a few and hurt far more with an unholy intent. I'm sure the person you speak of is different.
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...has drawn a red line in the sand about a nuclear Iran. It is unacceptable and will not be tolerated through the use of any means necessary. Secretary Panetta feels that it is less than a year till Iran gets the bomb. This can be an interesting news week as everybody is involved with the holidays and all kinds of interesting stuff gets thrown under the bus.
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soc. sec. tax relief extension as well as unemployment benefits extensions for longtime recipients. Tea Party Grinches really know how to twist the knife in poor people's hearts. Perhaps they will change the extensions from 2 months to one year.
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i see your Barcelona boys cruised to win the Cup World Cup, TigerLilly.if they get any better, it's not worth opponents bothering to turn up! alas, poor Kashiwa Reysol couldn't even pull a third place position. i hope you've learned your lesson TL, about replying to spammers; looks like you've been imbibing the Christmas bottle of Port early!! burning Palestinian children? what on earth are you talking about, you drunkard!!! i rename you TigerTipply!
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This pipeline from the Canadian Provinces to the Gulf Coast will create, what the owner and developer admitted, was a few hundred maintenance jobs once the project is completed. This is far from the "million new jobs" some pols. are slavering over. Meanwhile, the technology is hideous and the liberal left is out in force with demonstrations and nonviolent actions like circling the White House. Obama, who gets considerable funding from large energy companies -- has a large problem with this part of his base.
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NOPE, I have been stone-cold sober for many weeks, after I had a stomach operation! Marye saw that post too, and can verfiy that I was not hallucinating :D Barcelona makes my heart beat faster alright-such a beautiful ball they play!! I am looking foreward to their game in Feb, when they will beat the most arrogant Bayern München, who has that despiccable Robben!
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i didn't realise you had an operation; you should have said. i would have wished you well.so, i'm wishing you well now instead! hope everything went smoothly and you're back on the single malts. or at the very least a good burgundy. or rum and coke. or vintage sherry. or something.... yep, Barca sure are somthin'; a pity about David Villa's leg break though. still, i'm sure they can find some players to replace him somewhere.... check this out. this is 11 year old Japanese boy Takefusa Kubo who has been signed up for Barcelona youth team, Alevin C. he was spotted in Japan by Barcelona coaching staff! and he speaks Spanish!!!! no one fret about the title; jonapi half japanese and wife japanese.
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is that kid! the big guys in Barca like to recruit from within their youth league-so how awesome for that boy. Messi came to Barcelona as a kid, for example. No worries about not knowing about op-I wasn't talking about it openly, was too scary
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I can't for the life of me figure out why the shortest day of the year should coincide with many religious holidays. Ahh well, doesn't matter. From all the colors of people around the world many will be celebrating with material things or each other or both. Hopefully we all get a few days break and recharge our batteries. Don't forget those whose fortune and karma are less than yours. See you after the first of the year!
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because it scares the crap out of people. The sun! It's going away! No, wait, it's coming back! Over the years, people notice, ritualize, make up stories, some quite elaborate. It's pretty widely known, for example, that Jesus was most likely born in March and the observation of Christmas at this juncture was cooked up in Roman times to keep the faithful away from Saturnalia. As for me, it's always cause for celebration when the shortest day of the year is behind us.
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well i hope everything went well TL.it's always the buildup and anticipation of the unknown thats the worst rather than the thing itself (or maybe that was awful too of course; hopefully not). wishing everyone a merry christmas and a happy new year. won't be using the forum much now (to everyone's relief) so thought i'd get in reasonably early. i hope Santa empties his sack down all of your chimneys.
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Very interesting interview on the BBC with an Iranian student on the threat of Iran to close the Straits of Hormuz. A US aircraft carrier and guided missile cruiser just passed through the Straits and was seen as a broader campaign of provocation by the US and it's allies to goad Iran into war. The US and allies are doing everything they can to get other countries not to buy Iranian oil. There are many violations of the UN Charter in these and other actions. A total embargo of Iran's oil exports would bring unacceptable suffering to the Iranian people (who, it should be remembered, have rebelled against their own government). Iran would probably choose war if it comes to that. Who can say what the truth is but this has opened my eyes regarding the Iranian situation and who the bad guys are, (Guess you were right, Jonapi). Since when does the the US military threaten war against a foreign nation. isn't that up to the Executive Branch and the State Department?
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In Samoa when they go to bed tonight, (the 29th) they will wake up with the official date being the 31st, so that they will be in the same time zone as New Zealand-for economic reasons. How odd is that, to skip a day altogether!
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back in 1999, as the world was gearing up for the millennium hoopla, I was in Tonga with a friend on a biz trip, and that happens to be the closest bit of land to the dateline (as evidenced by the fact that the main hotel in beautiful downtown Nuku'alofa is the Dateline...). Much was made of the fact that this was THE place to ring in 2000... I suspect Samoa has given the matter some thought in the interim, though I guess there won't be millennial hooplas for a while. There are wheels within wheels on the dateline business, though.
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...that a regional supermarket chain with a pharmacy is giving away medication for:1) Diabetes 2) High Blood Pressure and many others. More junk food, anyone?
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sums it all up nicely. let us pray that the OWS campaign kicks some serious booty in 2012. preferably before Iran finally loses patience with systematic bullying and teaches the American people an irreversible lesson. no one wants to see beautiful honest folk get hosed because of their governments greed, callousness and stupidity. this is not the way the world should work.
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probably how these Republican candidates would love to answer in these puff-chested meaningless debates. they may as well be honest for once.
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whats with the ol' "unverifiable" gonzo? don't tell us you've pulled a Leary and been goading us all with finance-speak only to pass on our deepest political blahs to 'The Man'? or did the charms of that sweet young barrio boy prove too much and you've eloped to Mexico to make sweet enchiladas together... or did you spend the holidays in the pokey for that quite unnecessary public exposure during the OWS march? (robes open were fine, but bending over and kissing the camera was beyond the pale)!!!!!! we demand to know, you crazy mongoose you. hope you're back soon lamagonzo, all in one piece.
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wanted his account deleted. He said he was quite sure on the matter. Therefore, I deleted his account. I hope he comes back too.
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that's a shame.oh well, gonzo...stay safe and let me wish you a Happy New Year. hope to see you around these parts whenever the inclination strikes. won't quite be the same without you.
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I 2nd what jonapi said! Will miss Gonz and hope for his return-to keep us on our toes!
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People make their own decisions about this stuff and you have to respect it, but still, it's too bad. I hope he comes back to us.
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that just means we gotta keep posting info-to make our own weak attempts to fill the Gonzo hole. :(
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i have absolutely no intention of "filling gonzo's hole" you mucky pup!!!!!!!!
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red face! :D
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my apologies!
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here's a press release that I'm sure will make some folks happy: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Sweetwater Music Hall to Open this January in Mill Valley Rebirth of Landmark Roots Music Venue Marks a New Chapter for San Francisco Bay Area Treasure Founded Nearly 25 Years Ago MILL VALLEY, CA (January 11, 2012) – The much-anticipated Sweetwater Music Hall – a community gathering place and live music venue dedicated to bringing back the Sweetwater’s musical legacy to Mill Valley – is set for a soft opening this January. The opening of Sweetwater Music Hall marks a rebirth of the landmark roots music venue and Bay Area treasure founded by original owner Jeanie Patterson nearly 25 years ago. A local venture that will be comprised of multiple investors including Bob Weir (Grateful Dead, Furthur) and other longtime supporters of Patterson’s club, the Sweetwater Music Hall is a state-of-the-art nightclub and café that will not only present nationally recognized top-quality entertainment but also will provide a comfortable home venue for local and emerging talent to perform and experiment. Through its intimate setting, the club is designed to be both a neighborhood hangout as well as a world-class entertainment destination employing cutting-edge Meyer Sound and streaming video technology capable of bringing exceptional live events to broader audiences. "For years, the Sweetwater was the place many of us local and visiting musicians headed to when we were looking to play for fun,” said Weir. “Well, our clubhouse is back – and it belongs to all of us. Woo hoo – Mill Valley finally has its playpen back! Here we go..." Located in the Masonic Hall at 19 Corte Madera Avenue in Mill Valley, the Sweetwater Music Hall will offer food, drinks and live music for all ages, including national and local headline musical acts; Open Mic Mondays with Marin County keys player Austin DeLone; as well as other types of performances and private events. The club also will offer residencies and master classes with accomplished artists beginning on opening weekend. In addition to entertainment, the Sweetwater Music Hall will include a full-service restaurant and on-site catering led by renowned chef-restaurateur Gordon Drysdale (Pizza Antica, Café de Amis), who will offer artfully crafted, fresh, locally sourced and organic fare. At the soft-service café, initial orders will be taken at the counter and served by staff; subsequent orders may be placed tableside. While initially focusing on evening and happy hour fare, it is expected that by spring the Sweetwater will introduce breakfast and lunch, patio dining and musical Sunday Brunches featuring fresh-squeezed juices and super-premium coffee from Stumptown Coffee Roasters. Over its nearly 25-year history, the original Sweetwater hosted performances by artists including Weir, Carlos Santana, Clarence Clemons, Elvis Costello, Gregg Allman, Huey Lewis, Jerry Garcia, Maria Muldaur, Sammy Hagar, Richie Havens and many other musical luminaries. In 1992, BBC Television shot a documentary at the club featuring Bonnie Raitt, John Lee Hooker and Ry Cooder. That same year, Hot Tuna recorded two live albums at the Sweetwater. The new club intends to carry on this storied tradition. Sweetwater Music Hall’s Live Music Calendar Sweetwater Music Hall’s opening month includes outstanding musical collaborations; guitar-slinging rock ‘n roll; old-school funk, Latin, reggae and R&B; global funk; acclaimed singer-songwriters; fun for the whole family; and the return of a rollicking community favorite, including: Friday, January 27: The Outlaws Born to the blue-collar port city of Tampa, Florida, in the early 1970s, The Outlaws established themselves as premiere players in the phenomenon that came to be known as Southern Rock. Driven by the band’s high-powered, guitar-driven country-rock and three-part harmony, The Outlaws' earliest hits include their AOR classic, “Green Grass and High Tides,” as well as “There Goes Another Love Song.” The band’s 1980 cover of "(Ghost) Riders in the Sky” was their biggest single chart success, reaching #31 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart. Today, The Outlaws are at the threshold of a new era, with original singer/songwriter/guitarist Henry Paul and original drummer/songwriter Monte Yoho, Chris Anderson, Billy Crain, Randy Threet and Dave Robbins.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m. Tickets:  $31.50 Saturday & Sunday, January 28 & 29: Steve Kimock plus Special Guests Steve Kimock is widely regarded as the quintessential musician’s musician. For nearly four decades, Kimock has been inspiring music fans with his transcendent guitar speak. While one can say that his genre is rock, no one niche has ever confined him. Instead, through the years, he's explored various sounds and styles based on what's moved him at the time, whether it’s blues or jazz; funk or folk; psychedelic or boogie; traditional American or world fusion. Every Kimock show is a fresh exploration of expansive jams and euphoric grooves -- and whenever this master collaborator with deep Bay Area musical roots comes to town, magic is in the air.  Doors at 8 p.m., show at 9 p.m. Tickets: $40 in advance; $42 at the door Sunday, January 29: Master Class with Steve Kimock Bring your guitar and get ready for a rare opportunity to learn guitar technique from Steve Kimock in an intimate setting. Participate in hands-on instruction as the prolific guitar master discusses his approach to the instrument and some of the theory behind his technique. Limited seats are available for this very special event!  Doors at 1 p.m., master class at 2 p.m. Tickets: $67 in advance; $77 at the door Monday, January 30: Open Mic Monday A much-cherished Sweetwater tradition is back! Open Mic Monday returns to downtown Mill Valley at the Sweetwater Music Hall, hosted by Austin deLone. To sign up, email openmic@swmh.com on Mondays after 3 p.m.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m.  Monday, February 6: Open Mic Monday To sign up, email openmic@swmh.com on Mondays after 3 p.m.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m.  Wednesday, February 8: “Wednesday Night Live” with Mark Karan and Special Guests Best known for performing with the extended Grateful Dead family, Mark Karan’s soulful blues-based vocal stylings and inspired guitar work hit that sweet spot where rock meets R&B and country, then is blended with the soul of New Orleans and spiked with reggae, folk, funk and whatever else the muse might bring. At “Wednesday Night Live,” Karan will explore new material and approaches with drummer Dave Brogan (ALO); bassist Joe Kyle, Jr. (The Waybacks); Danny Eisenberg on keys (Mother Hips, Ryan Adams); drummer Billy Lee Lewis (Tommy Castro, Roy Rogers, Jemimah Puddleduck); new friends Robert Powell and David Phillips on guitars, pedal steel and dobro; and surprise guests.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m. Tickets: $8 in advance, $10 at the door Sunday, February 12:  YouthRock the Rebuild Youth musicians from YouthRock the Rebuild (YRR) will host a concert to celebrate the return of Sweetwater Music Hall. The fun family event will include performances by Marin-based youth bands and vocalists. As a service organization, YRR is committed to raising money to support important causes. Proceeds from this concert will be donated to Kiddo! to help keep music and the arts as an integral part of our schools.  Doors at 4 p.m., show at 5 p.m. Tickets: $15 in advance, $20 at the door Monday, February 13: Open Mic Monday To sign up, email openmic@swmh.com on Mondays after 3 p.m.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m.  Friday, February 17: The 21st Annual Mardi Gras Mambofest with Rhythmtown-Jive and Special Guest Bonnie Hayes A special Louisiana musical package of original music and selected covers of New Orleans R&B, funk, swamp-pop and marching brass tunes by a top-tier dance combo of Bay Area players who have worked with the likes of Earl King, Frankie Ford, Dr. John, Zigaboo Modeliste and Leo Nocentelli of The Meters, Lee Allen, La Vern Baker, Queen Ida, Sly & The Family Stone, Allen Toussaint, Commander Cody, Jesse Colin Young and Boz Scaggs, to name a few. Featuring: Tim Eschliman (vocals, bass), Ken "Snakebite" Jacobs (bari-sax), Mike Rinta (trombone), Michael Peloquin (tenor sax, harp), Kevin Zuffi (piano), Jimmy Sanchez (drums), and special guest Bonnie Hayes (vocals, keys).  Doors at 8 p.m., show at 9 p.m. Tickets: $15 in advance, $17 at the door Saturday, February 18: Dan Bern with Common Rotation Singer-songwriter Dan Bern is joined by friends and collaborators Common Rotation for a special West Coast tour stop at the Sweetwater Music Hall. While Bern’s musical tales receive comparisons to those of Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie, most recently Bern has focused much of his talent and sharp wit on writing songs for movies and other projects. He composed songs for the Jake Kasdan/Judd Apatow spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, starring John C. Reilly, as well as for Apatow’s Get Him to the Greek, starring Russell Brand and Jonah Hill. L.A.-based Common Rotation’s modern folk-rock features a melodic blend of acoustic guitar, trumpet, banjo, harmonica and cajon.  Doors at 8 p.m., show at 9 p.m. Tickets: $22 in advance, $24 at the door Monday, February 20: Open Mic Monday To sign up, email openmic@swmh.com on Mondays after 3 p.m.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m.  Wednesday, February 22: “Wednesday Night Live” with Mark Karan and Special Guests Ace axe man/signer Mark Karan (RatDog, Jemimah Puddleduck) explores new material and approaches with drummer Dave Brogan (ALO); bassist Joe Kyle, Jr. (The Waybacks); Danny Eisenberg on keys (Mother Hips, Ryan Adams); drummer Billy Lee Lewis (Tommy Castro, Roy Rogers, Jemimah Puddleduck); new friends Robert Powell and David Phillips on guitars, pedal steel and dobro; and surprise guests.  Doors at 7 p.m., show at 8 p.m. Tickets: $8 in advance, $10 at the door Saturday, February 25: Vinyl Marin County’s favorite funky sons, Vinyl is the rare sort of band that can meld funk, Latin jazz, dub and reggae without coming across as pale imitators of the style of the moment. Instead, Vinyl can alternately sound like the best live funk, Latin, reggae or dub band you've heard in ages -- and occasionally, all at the same time. Instead of going for flash or gimmicks, Vinyl brings it with fierce musicianship and zesty abandon, proving you can have both substance and style. It's an approach that has made the band favorites of the festival circuit, but the best place to experience them is on the dance floor of a hot, sweaty indoor venue.  Doors at 8 p.m., show at 9 p.m. Tickets: $15 in advance, $17 at the door The Venue The first floor of the 107-year-old Masonic Lodge No. 356 in Mill Valley underwent an extensive renovation and has been transformed into a live music venue and café evoking the deconstructed elegance of a grand old home. Arriving at Sweetwater Music Hall, guests will walk through a courtyard and enter the café through four black French doors flanked by two courtyard lanterns. The café features an open kitchen and espresso bar, with classic French bistro tables and café chairs as well as a U-shaped pistachio-hued banquette. Walls dressed in exposed brick and warm camel color frame the space, while three chandeliers hang languidly from the high ceiling. Moving into the music hall, guests are welcomed by an inviting ambience marked by a blend of comfort, rawness, beautiful touches and hidden acoustics. Guests may choose between standing room or seating options that include a long deep burgundy velvet and leather-tufted banquette; cocktail tables and chairs in black and brass; generously sized drink ledges that double as seating; and at the back bar, elevated seating that provides great sight lines across the music hall. Walls cloaked in antiqued burlap wallpaper with stenciled gold transition seamlessly to the coved ceiling, which reveals exposed wood joist and pin-spot lighting at its center. Sound panels are fashioned as decorative wall panels, while Moroccan wall sconces, black casework and black drapery accent the space throughout. Those who frequented the original Sweetwater venue may notice two memorable pieces of artwork: two much-loved mermaid paintings that have been retrieved for display at Sweetwater Music Hall. Sweetwater Music Hall supports the San Francisco Bay Area Musicians Fund, the regional chapter of Sweet Relief Musicians Fund. A portion of all ticket sales will be donated to the non-profit charity organization, which provides financial assistance to all types of career musicians who are struggling to make ends meet while facing illness, disability or age-related problems. Tickets for all shows will be available at http://sweetwatermusichall.inticketing.com. For bookings, please contact General Manager KR Holt at booking@swmh.com or info@swmh.com. For more information, please call (415) 388-3850 or visit www.sweetwatermusichall.com or the Sweetwater Music Hall’s Facebook page at: www.facebook.com/pages/Sweetwater-Music-Hall/174766919255146
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the sweetwater return sounds mighty fine!way to go! will all the ticketing be handled 'in house' as it were, or do ticketmaster et al get their grubby hands on them? please say they've bypassed all that and are independent...