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    marye
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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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    Think Marye has it right
    What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
  • johnman
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    i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
  • buddy plant
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    As far as I remember...
    ... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
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    chat room misbehavior, not the software kind
    mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
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    Chat Room Nerds Unite.....
    I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
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    OK !
    thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
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    man i thought we had got past this
    PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
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    to my mind
    it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
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    good discussion, folks
    you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
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    After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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I'm going to say something most substantive. Give me a moment please.
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What this approach lacks in spontaneity it sure makes up for in persistence. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Getting kicked out of the chatroom is awesome. It's the thrill of being on the edge that gets me off. It's like my son sneaking out of bed and trying not to get busted. Sometimes he gets away with it but he usually gets snagged! Makes me feel like Indiana Jones man. I suggest you don't change a thing.

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Thank you Mary, for creating this topic. It may just placate the angry hordes for now. I will notify some folks, perhaps they will take advantage of this brilliant idea
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It's nice to say hi without getting kicked out!! Have a grate day!! :) Peace, Gigi Thanks Marye and Mr.Pid
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Just had to put the boot in, eh? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

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The chat room was booting every 20 to 30 seconds. Then it would take maybe 10 to 20 tries to get back in after the boot. And you want to go back to this situation? What a kidder you are, otherwise I'd have to strongly question your judgment. Also I think perhaps you were possibly schooled in the same location as our friend Jesuschrist. You two seem to make the same spelling errors. Probably just one of those coincidence things, huh?
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This could do it for now. A group of folks could have a chat here, not as quick as a chatroom, but at least the posts do work and we haven't been kicked out of here for misbehaving...yet. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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Now I'm a kidder, ain't it crazy? Remember the old saying Never Trust A Prankster, do ya? Whatever became of rec.music.gdead anyway? ROTFLMAO
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out of the kingdom of fairy tales has appeared.Baron von munchausen....wonder what storys will come from there:-)(-:because it looks like JC ended up in hell........
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us to describe surreal situations with the bootin chat..well i can serve her.in fact i had the feeling(before i understood that nothing matters anyway)that the more i have tried to be polite the more kickings i got.maybe the computer didnt understand the word misbehavin:-)(-:
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I had just got my friend from Fl. to join and we say hi and she was kicked out.LOL!! I hope it gets fixed soon...with Marye on the job we know it will and soon...THANKS Marye :) anyway my friend is from my high school daze in NJ and her name is Alene aka Skinnyblondededhedbitch lol she is not a bitch,we just used to call each other that! LOL!! cause we were both skinny and blonde. So say high to Alene!! Welcome Alene!!!! Peace, Gigi Have a grate evening family :)
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how damn addictive the chat room has been. I feel like I'm missing something if I don't check in. I start missing people! I thought it was just me getting kicked out so much....guess it was all around. I was starting to take it personally. As for the thrill of not getting kicked out, Chris is kinda right, i would start in a chat w/ someone and then it's like pushing the limit...waiting to get flagged, but there's no siren or lights flashing so you keep going....then wham! booted again. I guess we must live for some cheap thrills. Still worried about my chat room addiction. Ami ps Chris- you'd appreciate my soon to be 6 yr. old daughter who stacked chairs and such to reach the stash of cookies atop the refrigerator cabinet. I snag her and she says, "I got this for you!". Lil bugger

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It was the computer doing the 'misbehaving', not the people innocently using the chat room!!! Turns out that most were behaving as a righteous DeadHead should, laughing, joking, goofing, and having fun. Sure we talk about our bad habits, but it's all in good sport. Heck, we know all the rules by now, AND the fire from the ice!!
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Anyone else having problems with the store..............I ordered the winterland set and got a confirmation email with no ups tracking info....I went in and sent customer service a message and they sent me back the WRONG tracking number. 411 shows and counting. One day I'll actually get around to listing them all.
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It had just become so ill-behaved. People couldn't stay on for more than 30 seconds at a time. It started to become more of a graffiti room than a chat room, so if we have to live with that, then this is a much more stable way of doing so. Thanks, marye for coming up with a creative solution to the problem. Guess we'll just have to yak in slow motion until they get it sorted out. Looking forward to news of same. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

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... Dick's Picks 5 from the Oakland Aud, (which became the Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center). What a 'cozy' venue, newer and cleaner than Winterland, right near BART, and that great park right next door too. Believe me, most of us never hung out around Winterland after the shows... Anyway the encore of this one is a real nice Shakedown St. into Uncle John's band!!! May I suggest you pick this one up, and enjoy the ride?
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well,that sues my soul,because i had exactly the same problem.i really believed it was something personal.that paranoia developed until a point where i started bombarding mary and jonathan (ask them) with PMs that were not so polite,like i tried to be in the chat.but as the revolution arouse i began to understand that i would have to buy a wooden finger,like anybody else:-)(-:
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I figured it was a techno issue, because I was a bit crude at times and wasn't booted for misbehavin', as for paranoia, that's just a carry over from my way back daze. Mary & Jonathan deserve the special super dooper award for patience for dealing with us patients. Take care, Ami
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Me and Jesus are one of the same. My spelling is horrible sometimes! Give me a break will ya?!

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Hmmm, actually more than once... anyway as Bobby sang:"And at last it's the real thing Or close enough to pretend" So we can pretend to chat, which we are doing, it's just not in "real time". I am still and yet grateful to the site for taking care of us 'patients' as Ami called us. Are we running the asylum now?

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... you know I was just goofin', don't cha??? I would never think you were that self-righteous to come on here and spew that line of malarkey! What the heck was he on anyway??? LOLOL
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Anyone home? 9:07 PST If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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As of 9:20 PM PDT (daylight) i'm getting this:The Chat Room is down for temporary maintenance and will be back soon. Is it fixed yet??????? LOLOLOL
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how goes it ? If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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it's goin' grate thx... is this now a bionic $6,000,000 chat room?
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I don't want to think about how the chatroom doesn't work anymore but want to make do with what is until what isn't is fixed! I think I am going to go on a Europe 72 revisted trip for the next month or more. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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at least we can communicate w/o the constant dis-connect. that was grating on my nerves.i hope you enjoy your european vacation, say high to bob, cb, and tl when you see them ;^) ;^) nudge nudge
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i took your advice to my heart and put on a concert from holland in 72.great way to start the day,hal,and buddy as this is a very booty bootleg i have to say with my warmest feelings.Cant see where those Band needs to be remastered hahaha(what a word!!):-)(-:

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Mighty swell, mighty swell..... over 142 minutes of the goodness i call the GOGD ah to sleep, perchance to trip? sorry will
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How is everyone today!! Grate I hope!! Have a grateful Day!!!!!!!!! Peace,Gigi Here comes sunshine****Here comes sunshine*****
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in to see what condition the condition was in! a grateful good day to all:) i see we are now sending cyberpostcards, turn me over, heres the visual, orangered glow breaking over purpleishgray mountain peaks feathering out into turquois blue sky chasing away early morning blackness(and somewhere in the distance a coyote howls) they make cards with sounds too!). so thats my morning so far, could never have said all that in the chat, would of taken at least 3 boots and a pair of flipflops, next thing ya know your in margraritaville surrounded by dorsil fins(ahhh! blink eyes). i jest:) n' injest;))) anyway,i hope that all is well in your day, me, i actually have some pixels that need some manipulation,( in best nickelson voice) "they need to be corrected". (kinda like the fruitcake in spinning free)ttfn tc
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Let me see if I've got this right. The rain in Spain is falling mainly on your Jefferson Airplane? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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out there,hope you had a grateful night/day or anything which goes between,and youre feelin fine:-)(-:Like to communicate?????
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too funny. I can see Audrey Hepburn and Bob dancing away in Spain. As for old JC in Spinnin Free, he's really getting a lot people on their last nerve, I guess it's good to be Jewish- I'm not offended, highly amused by it, and now know why he got kicked out of the Local 5BC Carpenter's Union. You gotta laugh, it's just too damn humorous! Ami
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that our concentrated GD-vibes have sent ole JC where he belongs.To Hell:-)(-:
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the topics side,when you posted a message and it says O sec. ago.if you dont turn the page you might think time stood still because of the profound meaning of your comment:-)(-:
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the weather is sweet..in the tcheque rep.whats going on bob?