As I Was Saying in the Chat Room

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April 8, 2008 - 1:15pm

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marye

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...
Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

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February 2, 2010 - 9:45pm

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mona

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hey

vvhat johnman said :)
February 2, 2010 - 4:39pm

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JackstrawfromC…

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January 2, 2009

My experience

With chat rooms and not necessarily at dead.net is that the people who are shady i.e. pose threats are in fact juveniles in the 10-12 year old range. It doesn't mean there isn't a more sinister plot going on too but the majority are kids being stupid. After watching what they write for awhile it is painfully obvious what their age is.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
February 2, 2010 - 3:58pm

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marye

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May 26, 2007

yeah

the logging thing is available to one and all. But the fact that people are getting into the chatroom without logging onto Dead.net is a problem.
February 1, 2010 - 9:37pm

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cosmicbadger

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June 13, 2007

some thoughts

Thank you Marye. I am sure everyone appreciates deadnet hosting the Chatroom and as Swan has mentioned, it is not an issue of permanent moderation: in general conflicts have been sorted out pretty quick there. But the lack of security makes it far too easy for those few people with bad intentions to exploit and abuse others. In fact have now discovered just how easy it is to ‘break into’ the chatroom from outside. My understanding is that Gagalive is a free internet Chatroom service that has been embedded in deadnet and that it could be hard for Deadnet to impose its own additional security on it. But I am not an expert on these things. It has also dawned on me that as long as you are logged into the CR you can scroll back through (and therefore copy/paste) all the chat from the moment you logged in. So if you stay anonymously logged on for hours or days from the outside (like some people appear to do) you may be able just to copy everything that has gone on. I was going to do an experiment to test this, but eavesdropping even for a few moments makes me feel really bad, so I won’t. If the chat record has a much shorter life (a few minutes) it might make systematic logging much more hassle. Hope this helps CB
February 1, 2010 - 5:00pm

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Anonymous (not verified)

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may i suggest ideas about chatroom's safety

for sure i want this chat room to keep going , and want topics to be discussed without " politically correct " restrains about opinions . The real urgency , methinks, is about safety settings in 3 easy steps ; 1) anyone wanting access to chatroom must be fist logged in at dead.net and 2) must first be a registered member with dead.net (with a valid e-mail) , and 3) gagalive/deadnet must install specific settings to not allow access to chatplace by bypassing login and registration at deadnet . These can be practical answers for safety , and to complete this format , a once prior agreement that anyone using chatroom is responsable to never send bugs and viruses at users of dead.net , nonrespect of that clause leading to definite expulsion from dead.net .
February 1, 2010 - 1:53pm

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marye

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guys

I'm reporting this to see if there's anything we can do. I don't want to shut the chat room down, for example, so better to figure out something more reasonable. As many have noted, no, threatening people is not okay, nor is misrepresenting yourself as a Rhino employee (or anyone else) to do so.
January 31, 2010 - 8:34pm

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johnman

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it's with sadness

that i read these posts. i have had good and bad experiences in our chatroom, recently very good things have come my way FROM the chatroom, tickets and a hotel room to be exact, so i know there are still good, loving kind folks there. we don't always hafta agree on certain subjects or topics, and there are some that i intentionally avoid discussing in there because i know we don't all have the same point of view. the one thing we DO share is love for the music. other than prayer, the music has been the one constant in my life that i can turn to when i just can't take it anymore. please, any of you that are thinking about leaving us, please, please reconsider. if we keep enough kind folk in there, and commit to not dragging others down with our personal problems (and yes, i am one of those that is guilty of doing this, not intentionally but the chat is my refuge) mebbe we can outweigh the people who don't love the site as much as we do......badger, i'm gonna miss your kind thoughts and words, hopefully you will still use the forums? i love all of you more than you know....you are my FAMILY!!!
January 30, 2010 - 9:55am

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DancingSingingGirl

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March 5, 2009

Cosmic Badger KA Swan

Using a photo or scripts from the chatroom to harm others is an awful practice/ game and should not be allowed. I was told that recently, things that I had said, in " Play " an 'Imaginative spacey conversation we were having,' was re-posted elsewhere with some important content changed, someone had changed my words, to cause a very hurtful situation ! I know that this has happened to thers as well. I agree it is slander. We love the chatroom and mostly we love sharing The Grateful Deads Music in there... It should not be a tool, used to harm and manipulate others ! play on
January 30, 2010 - 8:47am

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stuman

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November 21, 2007

again reasons I DO NOT use chatroom

Badger , swan , frankly you said it all . lets get rid of gagalive and make it a Dead.net MEBERS ONLY thing . I for one do not want to talk to folks who are mean and or just not like minded as we all are . I would be more then happy to come back to the chatroom .
January 30, 2010 - 8:07am

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cosmicbadger

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I am sorry TL and Mona and

I am sorry TL and Mona and Swan and everyone else, but I am not going near that place again until I can be more confident that i) it is reasonably secure ii) people who use it are identifiable and accountable iii) it is not being taken over by hackers iv) our conversations are not being recorded and manipulated and v) my computer is not vulnerable to attack (the consequences would be catastrophic for me) Some or all of the the claims and threats that have been made may very well be utter bullshit. I don’t know enough about computers to know, and I am not sure how these concerns can be addressed by 'toughing it out' from inside the chatroom. Still, there must be other ways to fix this. By hosting the chatroom for the registered members of the site, Deadnet must have some responsibility for its security. Especially since the main protagonist has even claimed that he is an ‘insider’ who works for Rhino!!

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

That's the name of the pills. No, I've never taken them, I just hate the commercial. H20 is good enough for me. Bob, you are a trip. I saw a guy eat the worm once & it wasn't pretty. I won't go into detail, but I'm sure you can all imagine... Dude, Frankly, Lighten up man! Try out for a debate team. PEACE

tequila

never drank the worm, just became the worm If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

Like the Walrus?

I am the Worm Man, cukoo~ca choo...

The tequila song

http://www.wimp.com/tequila/

I am the worm.

johnny L knows best Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

Hangovers

it is only recently that i have had them, i am fine on Wine and beer but too much spirits and i feel lethargic the following day, no mega headaches but....... the perils of getting old, too much smoke can be hard too bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

The Worm

we used to have a party game where the last shot in the bottle went with the worm, can-t remember now what the forfeit was. The worm was too good, all that chewing on cactus, just hairy and hard to get down - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

Tequila Song.....LOL

http://www.wimp.com/tequila/

misbehavior of the week

I don't know why the spam filter has suddenly taken this dislike to gratefulmom, but deepest apologies.

worm VS hangover...

as a bartender in my wayback years, people would ask for the worm and stick around looking for the last pour of the Mescale bottle. I always gave a gulp & gone, Bob, rarely a chew (ewww), but people swore it was the trick to not getting a headache the next day. I think the sugar content in the Mescale kept you from having a really bad headache, kinda like caffiene. who knows, but I always knew it was good for a night of entertainment when a few cruisers came in and started doing shots when the bottle was 1/2 way done. bob, here's my secret- one glass of wine + one glass of water + 1 Advil, 2 glasses= 2 Advil, 2 glasses water... hydrate often to reduce the AM throb....age is definitely a factor I have found out.

water and charcoal pills

way back when, like fucking forever ago, I earned $500 for being a "test subject" for a hangover medicine. Some pharmaceutical company was in the last stages of FDA testing, and we were the first human guinnea pigs. pretty cool gig, actually. Two separate weekends, we HAD to drink whiskey, controlled amounts to get us drunk during the course of the 4 days. There were 12 of us, 6 guys, 6 gals, all deadheads in the group. Actually, about only 6 or 7 hard core heads, and a few more "straight" people, but everybody was into shows and partying. Somebody knew somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody in charge of the whole thang, and somebody said; "hey, do you want to earn $500 for drinking booze?" no fool, I. I asked: '$500 U.S. dollars??" no fool, I. I asked: '$500 U.S. dollars EACH??" yes! OK, where do I sign? US greenbacks-- 500 bucks bought a lot of gas in those daze. all sorts of legal release forms, medical questions, gotta be healthy for the drug companies to do this to you. anyways, one weekend, you got the real charcoal pills, the other weekend you got a placebo. They limited the amount of food we could eat, limited the amount of water that we could drink, based on body weight and shit like that. Although the sample was only 12 people, it was all pretty scientific. Both times, they were drawing blood at intervals, (that really sucked) to test it -- whether you gots the placebos or not, both weekends, they were taking blood. before each "drink" wheich was every 15 minutes, I never shot nothing, so the whole needle thing is pretty fucked up, especially as you are getting drunk on sour mash. As we got drunk, they gave us memory tests, hand eye coordination tests, walk in a straight line, shit like that. Me and a few of the hard core boozers actually did BETTER on the coordination and memory tests as we got drunker-- that kind of totally fucking skewed the results resulting in odd-paradigms which the doctors could never explain. i was amazing the doctors and nurses with "philosophy" courtesy of Hunter or Barlow, (before the memory tests) saying shit like: "Cherish well your thoughts and keep a tight grip on your booze" It was pretty funny. So it all became a party for the first few hours and then it started to really suck. We were actually drinking just a little bit more than we were supposed to, often running to the bathroom to do various other things that required privacy. After about 30 or 45 minutes, some of the members of our little group started staring at the lights... babbling, giggling, you get the picture. some were definately en-hancing our party with un-mentionables. Suddenly, after boozing for 3 hours we had to take handfulls of these fucking smelly charcoal pills. I mean like 20 at a time, well, the doctor would say, please swallow all of these pills, but you can only drink 300 cc of water to do it. Every hour, more booze, more pills, more blood letting... It went on and on... the blood taking, the handfulls of pills, the continuous boozing, the MUSIC! but oh no!! "you can not dance!! no physical exertion, no sweating allowed!" I started calling this one nurse Dracula's mistress, calling her a leech and a blood sucker, I swear, she looked just like Nurse Ratchid. The whole thing became a big bummer and we was getting just a little belligerant. I think in all, we had to drink and do that shit for 6 hours each day of the 2 weekends. They had us all crash in the clinic. So it was 12 hours of boozing in a 48 hour time period. But you know what? Those charcoal pills definately work, I got the placebo the first weekend, and the real stuff the second weekend. So it went, we got through the 2 weekends, got the money paid in CASH!! and went our own way onto the summer tour that year... later on, I ran into the "straight" dude who kind of set the whole thing up, and I heard that they had to re-do all of the tests, because with the exception of 1 or 2 people, EVERYBODY had something we weren't supposed to have in our blood in our blood. So they drug company had to re-do everything, they threatened law suits because somewhere in that fine print we had signed papers saying we would be clean. But fuck it, we did it, got the cash dollar bill money, and hit the road. by the way, iknowurider, not only have I looked into the eyes of the worm, the worm winked at me -- but that is another story. peace

epilogue

these days, and probably for about 20 years, I have been off the hard alcohol; it is just too hard on the old system... I still enjoy beer and wine, especially red, red wine. I don't mix wine with beer, ever. though I often make my own blends of wine, 2 parts hearty merlot mixed with one part shiraz. and my personal cure for hangovers, is lots and lots of water and a couple of advils. Maybe add some whatthefuckaretheycalled?, yeah, electrolites, or some gatorade, like that. a liter of wine, 2 liters of water. I can't sleep though, because I'm up every 10 minutes to piss. such is the life of a geezer. ) -;

post-script

now who really wants to hear the story of the crotch rot medicine cream that don't work that we tested the year before??! ( -: yuk yuk yuk.

I'll Pass Joe...

but I'm sure the rotten crotch story will be a hit with the ladies! ; - ) "Since you've all been such good boys and girls, I would like to take everybody in this entire audience out for milk and cookies. There are buses outside. Everybody follow me."

your wife

your wife knows first hand about that story ever so intimately. ( -: yuk yuk yuk. we gotta stop this shit before we get booted off and banned from the forum for posting crap in every thread. I'd like to personally remind everyone, it all stated with some dork named Tony Clifton.

I know!

I know, let's start bashing those dudes from England who have those funny "Beatle" accents. yuk yuk yuk

water and charcoal pills

CCJ, nice! What a story. Where the pills you were taking for this test the "morning after pills?" Joe where are you from again? What State?

what state indeed

'Many of us have wondered about the State of CCJoe' he quipped in a genuine funny English accent.

Trifecta shoots...

and Badger scores on the rebound! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

I'll pass

on the rotten crotch story too!! Yuck!

Psychotic state

Psychotic State is your cute little Beatle accent badger 'posh'?? I luv those cute Beatle accents you 'blokes' in UK have. buut, the Monchuster occent isa muuch more inneresting. 10 things Noel and Liam love and hate. these guys are fucking funny as hell. the Japanese asks the question, what do you love? Liam: Number 1. Me. so, badger, are you a Manchester United fan or a Manchester City fan?? out with it sun, which are ye??

and badger,

help me translating this Noel does say: at the end of things he loves, I better say I luv my daughter and I better say I love my girlfriend?? right???!! it was translated in the subtitles to say I love my pet dog and my girlfriend. which did he say?? sumtimes it is 'ard to 'ear you blokes, and my 'earing is 'orrible, inn'it? peace.

Blues For Real

Went to to Deep Elem, to have a little fun got his $15 ready, came home with the crotch rot burn oh, sweet mama CC's got the crotch rot burn

ouch!

please don't ask me 'bout them Mezcali Blues neither. nice song parody, iknowurider. peace.

LETS GO RANGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

THE RANGERS ARE GOING FOR LORD STANLEY'S CUP AND I FEEL GOOD. LETS GO RANGERS LETS GO RANGERS!!! THERE YOU GO MR. PID

Test Me Test Me

That was a grate story, you pig. Never had my blood taken while drinking or otherwise disposed. I bet that was wild. No dancing? Well, $500 & a good tale, can't beat that. PEACE

Let's go Flyers!!!!

Go Philly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sorry Trifecta , but I like the Flyers!!! Let's go Flyers!!!!

a portrait of British life

yes famous Londoner Dick van Dyke with his authentic cockney accent provides an oh-so-accurate portrait of life in Britain today

Off to mow

I'm off to go mow my aunt's lawn....Have a grate day!! Peace

never accused of

being overly observent, i was wondering how long the "e-mail sign-up" has been on the home page,below "who online". seems to me, if i'm a member why do i not an email reminder, wouldn't such events,offers n'releases already be posted on the home page? seems redundant! i do kind of remember it on the old dead.net but am just noticing it here now isay ol'chap, owabouta spot o'tea, yes yes roll1 4me

Broadway Blueshirts

all the way, baby! Ya gotta love a team that could cause the NHL to change the rules during the playoffs. When I was a kid I played goaltender. And believe me, I had my own way to deal with such antics... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Cultural Notes from Limeyland

Yes Mr Gallagher does say he loves his daughter not his dog Yes I hate Manchester United and I also hate Manchester City, who are now owned by Thaksin Shinowath no less, former PM of Thailand on whose watch thousands of drug users were shot while trying to 'run away from the police'. Not sure what Noel and Liam think about that. I don't exactly hate Oasis, they are not bad for a not-very-original pub band I suppose I am originally a Londoner from Peckham. I used to speak like Dick van Dyke but now sound like Prince Charles. Oh and I support Tottenham!

grdaed...

I think it's a fairly recent addition, and mostly for the benefit of people who don't check in here that often. Every time a newsletter goes out or there's a new release we see new people and folks we haven't seen for a while. So if you're here early and you already get plenty of email from us, probably no need to sign up for more. But if you think you might be distracted for a while, not a bad plan to sign up.

e-mail?

thx marye, i understand the thinkin, however i know i've signed up for newletters,etc, both on this page and on the old one, guess what! nada,nothing,zero,zip.. never ever recieved one? is it because i never registered as a deadhead(freaks unite)? i really wasn't registering for anything in 72-73, if you catch my drift. i have gotten to read the newsletters thanks to "the Archives". and yes yes, i"ve seen quite an addition of members since the dead went to sirus radio, like waves n a beach...

Yep

I get my newsletters once in a while :)

alittle more current...it's ALIVE

hey marye, any update for the chatrooms (temporary) maintenance program?? this works but it's not as much fun(hassle actually), i miss the inpending doom of the boot god;))) it was something for nothing with alittle xtra KICKed in, hehe.. misbehaving for naught peace tc

u lucky

u get newsletters, ratdog, rides on harleys, tekillya hangovers... i'm movin back east.... NOT:}{

Hey grdaed73

I am a lucky duck, I never really thought about it!! Now I'm really a happy camper :)

Gratefulmom

Just be glad you're not a Disco Duck!Now you should be an even happier camper! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

High there!

Hey now, has anyone heard any news on the chat room? Is it coming back? Are there any estimates as to when it will be back? TIA

news!

can u really HEAR news on the chatroom? wouldn't that be a newsroom? u been spending to much time in your personal archive mr. plant, posting willynilly pictures and whatnots! keep up the good work, takes my mind off the chat room, have u heard any news on it, any olds, just what is the situation anyway, i feel the snakes are behind this! where is that samoan when we need him...

Happy Birthday Lil

have a good day Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

chatroom news?

I don't really have much, except that a new improved version is being worked on and I spent some time failing to get booted by it last week. However, I am not going to make rash speculations based on that! But let's just say, you have been heard on this matter.