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    So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

    Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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    KA: Everybody got older...
    ...and after "put it on the plastic and I wonder where we''ll be when the bills hit", they found out. People got married, got careers, had babies and went through raw life. Attitudes change even as they still love the same music. Accept that pure long-hair hippie behavior is hard to find -- even at a Rainbow Gathering. Rather than complain, gravitate toward the people who are kind and stick with them. I don't know who passes that litmus test in the chat room. Chat room nerds tend to dominate the medium. I am reminded of going to a reunion of a fraternal organization wen I go to Dead/Furthur related events. I therefore don't expect to find the good-old-days in the chat room. Even some people who post in the forums here are right-wing-nuts and pro nuclear power now... What can you do? Marye does a good job keeping order here. The chat room is a strange beast to tend to. Still, no need to despair! ~ When Quinn the Eskimo gets here, everybody's gonna wanna dose! ~
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    a different take
    I'm not a chat room regular, but I had a great time there last night, on and off for a couple hours as I did other work. Only positive conversations, thanks to mona, gamedad, david, twirlingirl and many others. Good storytelling! I don't often have time to chat, but sometimes I'll have a peek and if it's a conversation of interest and i feel like i have anything to contribute, I'll take a chance. For those with negative experiences, i can sympathize. But one strategy that i'd suggest is one I use with telemarketers. Hang up. You don't need to give jerks your energy. Just drop them and they'll have no one to talk to except their lonely self. As for the privacy, I'm not too concerned about joking around under alias. It's all fiction as far as i'm concerned. So, just wanted to say.. it's not all bad.
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    bla bla as usual !
    It used to be that rock and roll was a world event , but it now sounds like a provencial habit for a small american club. The Rolling Stones stayed a planetary happening, and it would be ridiculous to resume it to a british only local band .Rock and roll used to be about rebels who had enough understanding about the world and dared to think for themselves, but this deadheads scene narrowed its views to think as their tv tell them to ! When hippies have the same opinions as their tv, it's called brainwashing, but as lilly said , it's useless to say different as no one wants to hear it and whoever has any opinion other than what 's approved is unwelcomed ! To top it all , me who used to travel with deaheads anywhere , days and nights, never planning ahead how and with who, because i was certain to always be with decent people around me , now i refuse to go anywhere with any of them ! That resumes clearly what's going on nowadays ! This chatroom clarified that , definitly .
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    well it is a sad day when the poison starts to spread to reasonable people with good intentions and kind hearts. All the more reason to stay away. I don't think a chatroom 'community' is like any other community. It is not typical and not representative of deadheads or humanity as a whole. Its members are self selected, with their own reasons and motivations for being somewhere where they can be anonymous and unaccountable. Sometimes those motivations are benign, but they can also be disturbing. I am particularly suspicious of anyone who does not ever post on the forums. Best just stay away.
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    sound very full of bitter "narrow minded intolerance" to me. Sounds to me like you really want to be able to chat, otherwise you would not have posted what you did. So instead of throwing such harsh words around, why don't you try to accept what is and hold onto the "30%" that you feel is in there. Or if you can't, then do something else. But postings like this one aren't going to help anything. This community is human, just like any other-with strengths and weaknesses. Of course is not "ideal" but then nothing ever is.********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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    Since early 80's i loved deadheads,so when i discovered this deadnet chatroom i thought i could renew frienships i had when in america .But now, after months gone by, i know all these great deadheads never go in there. Too many mean and vicious obsessional haters in there , as if playing with evil became a routine to spice shallow postures of "peace and love" bla bla .Coupled to the indifference cop out of those who never take a stand against the worse, the narrow-minded intolerance , bored druggies and warped drunks pretending their foul behaviors should always be excused simply because they like GD music ,enough is enough ! Whatever is left nowadays of the Greateful Dead , I don't recognize it most of the time, as music nor as people ! Sure , it's still ok for about 30%, but compared to the the 95% goodness I was used to, methinks the standards now just won't do anymore Eternity was never guaranteed, I realize we have to each go on our own Way and i'll let the wheels of Times roll on .C'est comme ça , et pas autrement !
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    I just gotta poke around
    In there again sometime :-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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    well....i'll keep tryin'
    i know there is still some good in there....jus' gotta drag it out....kickin' and screamin'
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    Biffidence regularis...
    ...of some sort.
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    what swan said
    I said this a year ago when I stopped using the chatroom . it took this long for others to notice. And yes it is sad as the chatroom was a haven for me when me wife had her surgery and I had to stay home all the time . Thank goodnes that is all done now .
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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving. 

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Submitted by c_c on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 20:56

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Grate song Ami!!! love it!! Why don't we have a section for song parodies?? ******************* personally, I do not care if someone wishes to call themselves Jesus Christ as their board name, but I wonder if it is in good taste?? being a rude, crude guy myself, even this miffs me a bit; just knowing that some folks take their faith and religion seriously, and I would hope everyone would respect peoples space about serious stuff like that. the fact that it is ALL over is another bummer. I hope the mods would just clean it up so we do not have to waste time seeing it again and again. it did seriously bum me out to be accused of being that poster in a pm, but that is ok, I've been dissapointed and bummed out plenty of times by those I 'thought' I knew. it is either an internet troll or a total nut or someone just trying to stir the pot. I'll say it again, ignore it; which I was doing until I got accused in a pm, and somewhat less clearly accused on the forum itself. there is, of course, a simple way to know exactly who it is, if the site administrators or if the Mods access to the ISP numbers, (internet server provider) numbers, it is ever so easy to trace who it is. proxy servers do not hide that kind of thing, either, so a kind chide might be in order. just a thought there. I think it would be hard for anyone to be funny posting as 'Jesus Christ' though I am sure the real Jesus had a sense of humor. did I ever tell you the joke about the priest, the rabbi, the mullah and the drunk off duty cop?? peace
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 04/16/2008 - 22:37

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Ami,nice description of the last day or so here and the lyrics for cosmicbadger are right on.GRTUD have to agree with you about that guy calling himself JC. The guy is not in on the conversation. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 01:20

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thanks Ami for the special lyrics and the precis of recent events with all their twists and turns! and ups and downs! And thanks good wishes to everyone else who is part of this thing whatever it is and whoever we are :-)
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 02:24

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I have just acquired the final missing link in my 1973 collection. If you thought that was a rather sad achievement you would be in full agreement with Mrs Badger. But hang on, what was that last, hard to find show The Month: October The Day: 25 The Venue: Dane County Coliseum The City: Madison, Wisconsin!
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Submitted by Ami on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 04:10

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long ago when a jehovah's witness came to the door, I would ask if they could name the 12 disciples. Many came, none entered,,,maybe we put JC to the test. CB, the badger is the missing link- the show is a mere accessory. enjoy your day if twirling. Is that the show with a long and decent Loose Lucy in the first set? Ami
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Submitted by Hozomeen on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 07:33

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Hey Ya'll...I've been reading through the forums lately probably like most everyone else and seeing all this JC activity and just pondering the bad vibes...I guess I've been torn like most with the same dilemma we all must face from time to time questioning my feelings toward someone else stirring up my shit when it is usually me doing the shit stirring... I'm right with you CCj, I was asking myself all the same questions about being miffed at this mystery guest using a name, a word, to drive a point home about something I can't even follow anymore, because as a card carrying rude crude shit stirrer in the flesh, I guess I should be open to any and all good healthy shit stirring... in recent years I have taken to questioning my own paradigm rather than that of the shit stirrer before going on the offensive about anything, and in recent years I have hardly ever gone on the offensive about anything...its great not being offensive...but the thing is that eventually you come across a situation that just doesn't seem to come full circle...I mean, even if I don't agree with the shit being stirred, eventually I agree with and respect the point of view of the people stirring the shit for whatever reason, and that helps me reach inner peace as well as outward tolerance...the thing I just can't seem to nail down about this JC is that he seems to be opposed to people chatting about good intentions toward a cause, recently he has taken issue with the bickering on the site as well...okay, all in the name of good ole healthy positive shit stirring I guess...but the thing that really gets me is this thing about posting these grand statements to all of us on each forum so that we don't miss it, who knows, but the thing is that posting those things all over other people's areas is just plain stepping out of bounds...I don't know if this JC is aware of the effect that kind of thing has as far as setting himself outside the realm and really just scattering us all around inside here....its just not funny, nor is it getting across the message it claims to be promoting... the real JC never wrote his own gospel.....and I'm not sure but the last time I channeled Pigpen and asked him about the website his response to me was, "what the fuck is the internet?" I agree with JC about the bickering being a bummer, but I agree with everyone else on that one too....anyway, thats just my two cents...I like reading and chatting and stuff, but the JC BS is a little much....time to put on some good music, fire one up, and maybe play a little solitaire instead...I've just gotta have a break from the same ole thing over and over and over.... P.S. Ami, I like the name the 12 disciples question, thats a good one. I hope you don't mind if I use that one next time I get a Jehovah's witness...
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 09:08

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okay, we need some folks to check out the new chat room, which is on a testing site. I'll take the first dozen volunteers who PM me. Thanks!
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Submitted by Ami on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 09:59

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here's a hint, there's 2 peters and 2 james...so when you think you ran out of saints, there's moreGod I can't believe what I picked up in Art History so long ago : ) Ami
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 10:16

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moe,larry,curly and joe
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 10:20

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Shemp was no slouch, either... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

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Submitted by buddy plant on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 10:20

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what about Jerry?
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 10:24

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buddy. Thanks for appropriately reorienting the focus. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 10:29

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could i forget Shemp? one of the latter disiples! c'mon buddy, what're u thinking, thats a total different religion, and a much better one at that! FREE WORLD/FREE THOUGHT
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 11:25

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wishing the best to the chatroom guinea pigs Thanks for the thought and the invite Marye and crew. Nice way to do it :-). I Have to pass as I have so much to do, have been getting too mixed up in Tibet arguments and am leaving Saturday for Siberia. Hope the relaunch goes well and look forward to meeting all of you lovely people there!
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Submitted by Sunshine-daydr… on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 12:53

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Hi anyone have access to the concert channel and a DVD recorder. Apparently there is a Bruce Hornsby show from 16th October 1990 being shown on there, i saw him the following night in Essen Playing with the GOGD. There was a rumour at the time of Jerry sitting in so lots of people went to Amsterdam from Stockholm, probably other reasons also Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 13:12

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I just got 4 general admission tix for Allman Bros with Ratdog for $80..Susqueshanna Bank center August 23 another Saturday night** its a cool outside venue...sweet!!
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 13:27

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still the lucky duck:) gonna ride the harley there i imagine:)) with a lime n'bottle too:))) enJOY
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 13:33

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you can buy a frozen margirita there in a plastic guitar cup thats about 20oz ! How lucky is that!! My sister took one sip of hers and poured it right down the front of herself LOL...we were laughing so hard we almost peed ourselfs..hehehehehe... I may not be drinking them..but ya never know ;) wink..
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Submitted by Hal R on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 14:14

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You are one lucky Grateful Deadhead duck mom! If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 14:21

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check your inboxes for directions to the test site. And we could still use a few more, so don't be shy!
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 14:53

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Ok Marye I checked it out, seems to work fine....but no one was home I was all alone :(
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 14:55

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we should probably schedule something, but I'm at a conference with a dicey internet connection so I'm not too useful at the moment. If you guys want to work out something amongst yourselves, cool with me.
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 15:17

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the chatroom :)
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Submitted by wobbs7 on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 17:36

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I'll be a guinea pig Mary. By the way, GratefulMom (I forgot your real name, sorry) Greg Allman is sick with Hep C, the Brothers are cancelling shows left and right. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, hope it ends up not affecting you. PEACE
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Thu, 04/17/2008 - 17:54

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I know he cancelled his NY run in May...but...I'm keeping the faith and hope he is well enough by August :) People can you feel it? Love is everywhere. Love is everywhere. Love is everywhere. Peace, Gigi
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 04:14

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You know the tune!and really really really really sorry if you are not included..it's not that I don't love you its just that my memory ain't so good .just add more verses if you want In the chatroom down in deadhead land We all done found new friends With Buddy, Bob and Stuman there The joking never ends Don’t kick me out I beg of you don’t kick me out Pleease don't kick me out In the chatroom down in deadhead land The laughter flows like wine Cos rider, ami, grateful mom Crack me up all the time Don’t kick me out I beg of you don’t kick me out Pleease don't kick me out When I log to see whose there, 600 hours of fun Is what I’ve spent with all my friends and I know there’s more to come Don’t kick me out I beg of you don’t kick me out Pleease don't kick me out In the chatroom down in deadhead land It don’t stay dull for long Cos Hal and Steve and 73 Keep moving things along Don’t kick me out I beg of you don’t kick me out Pleease don't kick me out In the chatroom down in deadhead land You'll find a Tiger too And Frankly, ripple, Mr P Will make you welcome too Don’t kick me out I beg of you don’t kick me out Pleease don't kick me out In the chatroom down in deadheadland Please don’t make a fuss And don’t forget that Mary E Is watching over us!!!! Don't kick me out I beg of you don’t kick me out Pleease don't kick me out Pleeeease don't kick me out!
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 05:04

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CB .....nice poem or what ever it was lol!!I went to the test chatroom this morning and was alone again :( check back later I'm off to work...still trying to finish the bar!! Huff huff ..yuk yuk ..I have to inhale polyurathe all day again :(
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Submitted by iknowurider on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 06:58

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Come & gone, my oh my! Can't wait to chat with all my friends, thanks CB. Hey, didn't someone mention a parody forum? Kramer's Wierd Al habit seems to be rubbin off on me. Careful with those Fumes Gigi & LEAVE IT ON PEACE
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Submitted by Mr. Pid on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 15:26

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Well done, sir. Lovin' it, especially since it's become such a dire need for all of us.I can report that the beta testing is going quite well so far. No signs of Bootzilla yet. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Submitted by wobbs7 on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 16:17

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I recited Cosmic's poem to Dire Wolf.Good job dude. Keep hope alive Mom. He'll get better. Phil & Friends are comin' in July. WOOOHOOO. on the 3rd too, which means, the 4th off of work.......paaaarty time

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Submitted by buddy plant on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 16:22

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Grate job CB !! I think you should copywrite it, and maybe give it to one of the newer bands to sing... You could be a latter day Hunter or Barlow... Keep up the good work, you'll be hearing from my agent very soon...
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Submitted by GratefulGigi on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 18:35

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That avatar is freaky... the eye is watching me

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Submitted by buddy plant on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 22:40

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... in the new improved chat room. I have had absolutely no problems when using it. Thank you JL Saw your first chat-room sink and drown... From rocking of the jokes... And all that could not type or post... Was just left there after a boot... OK, I'll keep working on it...
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Submitted by grdaed73 on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 09:29

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nice one buddy and you too CB. yas ,yas the new and improved version seems to be humming along nicely. excellent work jonathan,give that person a raise, er, praise,, yeah, yeah praise thats what i meant, good work,well done. however there has been one problem that i noticed while sitting lonely watching my last entery , no one to chat with! except for brief encounters which are fun while they last. and looking back in the log i see other enteries to the same effect, this , i'm sure will be fixed on the full release:). well back to the experiment, good dr., please set controls back 3 pass the lighter and hit the top green button! peace tc
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Submitted by Hal R on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 09:47

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I am considering writing a research paper "The Folly's, Ways and Pranks of Deadnet : A Door to The Creative Process" If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 10:22

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soon, I hope, as soon as we've ascertained whether it's working as it should. We could still use a few more test pilots, so don't be shy!
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 10:41

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that's definitely on my short list for Hits From Hell...
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:19

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but I've gotta say that song is not his finest. Of course, then there's "San Franciscan Nights," which is even worse. I think Eric's meetup with the '60s was not entirely felicitous. His bluesy stuff, awesome.

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Submitted by buddy plant on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:27

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House of the Rising Sun, or I Put a Spell On You? Or Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood? Those songs didn't have lyrics about "pilots" though.
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:28

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loved 'em when they first came out, too. Long version of House, of course.
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:34

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is when they made the short version, I dunno whether for radio or single or what, they cut the fabulous organ solo and my favorite verse in the whole thing, i.e. the one foot on the platform, the other foot on the train... Dunno if they did that in England, though.

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Submitted by buddy plant on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 11:36

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Martin Scorsese used that song (and many others) to great effect in Casino... And yes, the long version of any song is much better. That's the way we roll... I remember when "Whole Lotta Love" came on the radio (KSAN of course) we always hoped it would be the long version...