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  • Kate_C.
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    Pig - endings

    It's late on a Sunday and that means bed soon, but since my quick reply to TD's inquiry below, I've been further thinking about the tragedy of Pig - and I certainly think of it that way despite the manifest personal responsibility for the consequences of near incessant alcohol abuse from a young age. It's a spiraling decline that seems particularly pathos-laden given the picture of a gentle, genial man that emerges from all the familiar documentary sources.

    I take notes or attempt to catalogue page references by subject from my little library of the Dead, but realize I've done a poor job on this particular subject - and certainly during the general time frame implied by TD's question. So, I wanted to share a couple relevant - and heartbreakingly poignant - passages from Jackson's "Garcia/American Life" that I've revisited since:

    First, McIntire speaking: "I remember one day Garcia coming into my office and saying, 'Look, I'm really worried about Pig. I think his life is in danger, and I want to do whatever we can. The band'll pay for everything. Let's find out if there's anything we can do.' So I researched it and I found out the most famous place in the world for liver problems was Sheila Sherlock's clinic in London. But my doctor, Sandor Bernstein, said there was a guy at UCSF [University of California and San Francisco] who was as good. So we slotted Pig with him. And Pig jumped in and did, too. He stopped drinking and he learned all the things about nutrition that he could. He really tried, but it was too late."

    And second: "[On the tour] he rode on the hard bus, this Danish bus, which was sort of like the crew bus," Annette Flowers said. "It was the quieter of the two buses usually. Pigpen lived on the back bench of that bus. ... I think that trip sort of sunk it for him; put him over. It was really grueling in a lot of ways." "He got knocked off that bench five or six times," Rock Scully recalled. "He rolled off that bench and a couple of times he really hurt himself I could see it; he really hurt his kidneys and bruised himself. I'd have to help him off the bus."

    "He really tried, but it was too late." A short, simple statement, but one that can put fault lines in even a strong foundation. I recall reading that Pig sent Veronica away as his condition became increasingly acute, which, in light of other information, clearly underscores what a lonely and frankly terrifying period those final 12-18 months must have been for that kindhearted soul./K

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    I posted this in the taper forum, but thought this may be the better spot (also, patience is not a virtue of mine). I am sure this exists in written form somewhere, I just can't seem to find it.

    What is the official band policy for trading in shows that have been officially released? Specifically, I am wondering about the ones that were released officially but are out of print. Seems to me that if they are not for sale currently, we would not be costing the band money by trading those shows. In fact, the only folks it would cost are those selling the out of print releases at a profit on the secondary market. Just curious what the official policy is on this considering the volume of official releases these days.

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    Yes. I suspect Pig was resting from his short reunion tour with the band in December '71 and fortifying his commitment to sobriety in what had to have been an unfathomably difficult lifestyle change (if not in terms of medical necessity, then certainly in practice).

    "Ace" was recorded from January - March '72, but recall that Pig's alcohol-related health problems forced a touring hiatus in August '71 that culminated with hospitalization in September for bleeding ulcers, hepatitis, and spleen problems. He was only able to rejoin the Dead beginning early December in Boston, at which time I recall Phil describing Ron as shockingly frail in his book. Not surprisingly, Pig's contributions are limited, and while progressively more energetic throughout the month (at least to my ears), they are still anemic by historical standards; though by NYE he sounds beat.

    In retrospect, it's a miracle that the Dead community (once and future) got Pig back in functional form for the brilliantly recorded European tour, especially given how quickly he dropped off radar for related health problems afterward.

    EDIT: And yes, "sabbatical" serves as a neat and entirely appropriate bit of shorthand in conversation among those who know....

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    essentially it was a dead album with everyone on board contributing except for Micky who was on a sabbatical, (as i see it) and Pig, why wasnt Pig contributing? was he too sick at the time?

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    RE: NYE '69

    CC, your post invites a bit of confusion by suggesting that you saw both the Dead and TSOC on the same NYE bill at Winterland in '69; though 50 years is an understandably long time. It's hard to imagine, but the Dead were not playing on a West Coast home field that December 31st, and were rather in the midst of an odd eastbound triptik that took them to Dallas on 12/26, Hollywood (FL) on 12/28, and the Boston Tea Party on 12/29-30, while closing out at the Fillmore East on 1/2-3/70.

    Indeed, the '69 NYE playbill on the poster you linked does not name the Dead. So TSOC and the GoGD were on opposite coasts at the decade's close. In any event, here's a link to a CM SBD for the Dead's '69 NYE show:
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/12/31?source=87994

    Incidentally, I couldn't find a poster for Boston NYE, but here's one from the night before (it would appear the promo dept. missed the spirit of the "grateful" dead; you'd think an impossibly early incarnation of Maiden was playing that night!):
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YQBsfGwVEeo/TUSkqEWWy3I/AAAAAAAARQs/qRvbGdWK_…

    However, you are correct that the Dead played NYE '70 at Winterland, but, consistent with the playbill cited in Deadbase50, the following promo poster does not show TSOC on the same stage, but rather NRPS, "assorted friends" (apparently Hot Tuna), and Stoneground (note also, "lights by Little Princess 109").
    https://img0.etsystatic.com/030/0/8448089/il_570xN.542921874_q4nc.jpg

    Checking Deadbase, here's a link to what seems the complete NYE '70 show; however, it appears to be mix of AUD and FM broadcast that provides poor sound quality through Cumberland (even so, the Truckin' opener is well worth a listen), but thankfully improves in time for the set's highlights at Cryptical and China>Rider through close at UJB.
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/12/31?source=88719

    Regardless of which show you attended, either would've been a great way to kick off your own personal attendance record! Got a story?/K

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    You may want to post this on the Dave's Picks 31 thread so more people see it. Most folks are there.

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    I can not find the 1st GD…

    I can not find the 1st GD show I attended anywhere in GD archives. No GD archive lists the same bands that I saw that night, as confirmed by the Sons archive which has the poster from that night:

    <<Wednesday, December 31, 1969: '1969 New Years Eve 1970', Winterland 2000 Post Street at Steiner Street, San Francisco, California
    The band was billed only as 'The Sons' on the poster printed for this show. Also on the bill: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna. Lights by Brotherhood of Light. This show, from 8:00pm to 8:00am, was promoted by Bill Graham Presents In San Francisco.>>
    http://brunoceriotti.weebly.com/the-sons-of-champlin.html

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    How do I update my address…

    How do I update my address for my Dave's subscription? Want to make sure #31 gets safely home!

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    limited releases logic explained

    Could you please explain the logic of "limited releases" as it applies to an "alternative" business model, such as the grateful dead" The "limited release" model is a concept taken from the good old music biznezz, in order to promote sales, keep prices high, and maintain collector value of limited products.
    I "missed" the window for daves pick's 30, a rare release from the year 1970, the first show that I recorded 1/3/70. I was disappointed, but managed to get one on a record/cd selling site. I paid double, but I still saved $$$, as I do not want to purchase a "subscription" to the daves picks yearly releases, as I am primarily interested in obtaining music from the 1966-1970 period, and not many releases are from these years. I guess I could always buy a subscription, and then sell off the unwanted items on another site for a profit, which is what this concept does, encourages a "black market". I do not consider this to be "progressive" in the least. I would rather purchase through GDCORP, as I have in the past, but if GDCORP wants to encourage this type of atmosphere, I am forced to participate in order to get what I want, and I am grateful to the sellers who have made it possible to get what I want. But it sure seems contrary to what Jerry's idea of business was.

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lol... Now DeadNet time is about only 45 minutes behind the actual time here...catching up slowly I guess... or else the Axis is moving closer to us.
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Wendy - I can't give you an answer, but I can tell you it's being discussed. I personally agree with you, that the most recent should be on top. I can also tell you that's it going to be one way or the other - can't have it both ways.
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If I could find my own posts so I can keep up with those threads I've entered. I can't remember where I was. Marye - something like the "check messages" or "Message center". Forgive me if you already talked about this someplace and its been addressed and I'm sure if you could you would. Like for this question, I suspose I am going to have write down where I asked it so I can check for the answer. and BTW, just where am I? Thanks, Rose
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Hey now, Rose-- if you go to your own profile page (click My Account on the left there) you'll see a section on the right of that page called User's Recent Posts, which is a partial solution to the problem you're talking about. However, partial is the operative term, as my Recent Posts seem to reflect the reality of several days ago. A more complete solution would be a good thing, and I'll pass that along. (I'll also email this to you so you don't have to slog through so much). As for the issue of being taken straight to new-to-you posts, let's just say that in my morning report to the higher-ups I said that that issue and the fact of responses appearing out of chronological order are officially at the top of the Pain Point list. So the tech team is aware of the problem and I fervently hope we have a solution soon. Thank you for your kind patience...
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Love the look of new site.... but the post fonts and spacing is so large that it is hard to read with all the scrolling one needs to do... makes my eyes hurt!! Please reduce the size so you get 4 or 5 posts visible at least at a time.. right now it is 1 or 2 at most... thanks. drmz DrmzSpace Radio podcasts available at: slapcast.com/users/drmzspace tasty audio treats for the mind...
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Why are shipping costs so damn high! Why won't customer service answer my emails? Tony
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sorry response to your emails is slow. If Iknew the answer I'd tell you. I suspect they're swamped and, like us, trying to get things working right, but I'm sorry and I'll mention the issue.
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are the downloads going to be put back up?
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I don't know if i'am at the right section of the site, so, please let me try. Why do i have to pay $35 to buy an order of $39 (vault three, t-shirt)? Can't i recieve it by ordinary mail? Idon't care to receive it in 4-6 weeks, the price is very good. Thank you, Richard.
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Did you get rid of the Dead radio stream from the old site? Do you offer any streams at all?
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With regard to the streams and many other features, there are many enhancements in the queue and I don't know which are likely to come first. Hence if streams are a big issue to you, please weigh in using the fine Feedback link at the bottom of the page. With regard to the Store, let's just say they're coping with a few issues and we're working with them to establish a better communication channel. My personal advice, if you don't NEED to order something right this minute, you might give it a week for the dust to settle a bit. If you're already having issues, and you've emailed customerservice@deadnetstore.com already and not heard back, send me or izzie the details and we'll get it to someone who can help. Thanks and sorry for all the trouble.
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Hi Aud has started a very cool thread, that is difficult to find...any chance it could be reloacted...like the home page? ( or at least a link to the forum on the home page)
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the tech team has a lot on its plate. Down the line, no telling what might happen. Hold that and all similar thoughts!
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A couple questions -- on main Forum page, only "The Scene" subtopics are listed. how come? when going to a specific topic and clicking on "# new" you go to the first post, not the newest one. can/will this be changed?
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1. Re The Scene, the short answer is that the subtopics are actually Forums (don't ask) because we were still getting the hang of some tools. This actually reflects a layer of complexity we don't need, but hey, a learning experience. 2. We sure hope so. It is reported early and often, and on the to-do list.
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I don't have "Recent Posts" on the right side of my profile, only the shows I've marked as attended so far. I've believe I've seen recent posts only once, on someone else's profile.Do I need to set something differently to show them?
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Hey now, Wendy. I'm not trying to be smartypants here, but look on the left menu area, under Dead Community. Is there not an All Recent Posts button, above Member Map? I have a non-mod account here (shhhh.....) and I have that feature, so I'm thinking everyone else does too. Am I crazy?
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Yes, but that shows ALL recent posts..I'm talking about this.. "Hey now, Rose-- if you go to your own profile page (click My Account on the left there) you'll see a section on the right of that page called User's Recent Posts, which is a partial solution to the problem you're talking about. However, partial is the operative term, as my Recent Posts seem to reflect the reality of several days ago" which was marye's answer to Rose's question about how to get back where you left off instead of having to scroll through the entire history (or click "last" and then scroll back) of a folder to get to things you haven't read yet. I'm not seeing "User's Recent Posts" on my profile or anyone else's. I did see it one time, on one profile, and haven't seen it since.
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is editing our posts turned off for good? ____________ this space for rent
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Wendy - thanks for clearing that up for me and sorry for not getting it the first time! I have it on both of my accounts - it's under the Shows Attended section there on the right. Can anyone else let me know if they don't have that feature? It doesn't work great, and takes me back to where I'd last posted in a few forums, but that's something at least. I like using the All Recent Posts and sorting by Forum to see what is new for me that way. and Mindbender - yeah, for now. Editing was a concern for the changing-history thing, and because it was hooked in the code with Reply and that was behind the weird chronology of posts issue that folks were asking about. It is being looked at and worked on though to see if the magic-fingered folks can find a way to do 30-minute editing or something without it messing anything else up. Bottom Line: it's a software thing.
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I swear, I'm seeing a perfectly normal User's Recent Posts on my profile too. Every bit as ill-behaved as izzie says, but there. Perhaps an obscure bug is involved here. If the problem persists, please let us know (also what browser you're using and anything else you can think of that might be relevant) and we'll pass it to the wizards for examination...
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Nope.. it's definitely not on mine. I'm using the ATT/Yahoo browser. Yesterday I looked at the profile of someone who'd just introduced themselves and under their "website" was "N/A" (underlined) which I clicked, and THAT took me to 'user's recent posts'. But it didn't show up on the front page of their profile. AIl that's on mine is 'shows attended', the "more" button just displays more shows. Just for kicks I just tried putting "n/a" on the website space in my profile, of course it woudn't let me do that, it highlighted it red and didn't take. lol... the location map on my profile puts me on the equator just off the coast of Camaroon. And I thought I was in California all this time.
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The system obviously knows there are posts that I have not viewed yet in some topics under "All recent posts" , and none in others.... Can't it go directly to the new ones instead of the very beginning of every discussion? And after you post a message, must it go back to day one of the discussion instead of just back to the post you just made? Just wondering.... Having to scroll though the enitire history of a topic to view new posts could get quite cumbersome as the history grows.
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marye, when I look at YOUR profile, "user's recent posts" IS there. Just not on mine or pretty much anyone else's I've looked at.
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Hi, How does one delete their account. Thanks!
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So there are no edit or delete buttons either, just like thre is no way to kill the account. So....once something is written here it is written in stone unless the all powerful want to delete it? Am I understanding this correctly?
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It's Sunday. We're working on your questions, thanks. More as soon as we know it. Thank you.
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Whoops! I did some poking around and it seems about a random split as to who has Users Recent Posts and who doesn't. The fix-it folks are aware and are figuring it out.
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Is there anyway to get contact info for a band member, say Billy? I would really like to get back in touch with him. I haven't heard from him in....two years? Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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It would be nice to be able to see your own profile. Rob
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robcork - what do you mean? I click on your username and see your profile. You can edit it and stuff from the My Account page,if that's what you were looking for. (as for contacting band members, shooooooooooot. not this girl.)
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Issie, surely you must know how to delete one's account can only the proctors do it?
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NoName - wish I could help you out here, but I can't. If you would like, send me a PM and I'll see about individually deleting all of your posts. Then, you could close your eyes and scramble your password so that you can't come back in. That would effectively eliminate your presense here, if that's really what you want to do. In the mean time, if there's something we can do to make your stay here more pleasant, please let us know. I am pretty sure that an account wipe-out will be coming along, as the site continues to develop.
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how do I upload a picture? _________ this space for rent
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forget it, I found it. _________ this space for rent
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Is there one this week ? Bob Witcher Spanish Jam
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Hi, I cannot uplpad photos, even I'm logged in.Get message: "Access denied You are not authorized to access this page" Why's that? Gerdie
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What happened to those? If they still exist and will be added to where are they? I am unable to find them in the store. Charlie
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I went to the "My Shows" link and nothing came up, also cannot find a link for "Fan Photos"Can anyone provide direct links for these 2 areas?
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coffee-deficit, sorry. fan-photo uploading is offline temporarily. Something went south in the recent server upgrade, and that function should be restored soon. It's all in MaryE's FAQ sheet, too. off to find an answer for bssgrl.
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Bssgrl - are you looking for My Shows on your My Account Tab? Have you entered shows yet that you've seen? (I just clicked you and it tells me you're a pretty new account, which is why I'm asking.)
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How do I change my time stamp which appears when I post? It is currently 8:10am here in Philly...
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NuPotato, time stamps are done by the server, as I understand the process, and the server is on Pacific time. I don't think there's an individual fix for that.
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I have been listening to the show at the Fillmore East on May 15th.1970. There are 2 versions available for streaming but the set lists are very different. The Dead.net web site does not list any set list at all. So what is the deal, Who's right, Archive.org or is the set list from wolfgangs vault correct. Warf Rat 99