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    What's Inside:
    • 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
    • 25th Anniversary Tour Program
    • Official Band Letters
    • 6 Ticket Stubs
    • 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
    • 1 Tour Laminate
    • Official 1990 Band publicity shot
    • 6 complete shows on 18 discs
          • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
          • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
          • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
          • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
          • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
          • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

    Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
    Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
    Original art by Wes Lang
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

    Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

    And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

    In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

    Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

    The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

    And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

    Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

    Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

    Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

    With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

    So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

    If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

    -Blair Jackson

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  • rbmunkin
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    How would you answer my example in my first post about this:Do you seriously contend that Jerry isn't OBJECTIVELY a better guitarist than me? Comparing Van Gogh vs. Monet is much more difficult of course. I'm trying to make the point by using an absurd example, but a valid one. Personally I think we want to say quality is purely subjective because it's easier to say that. It's too difficult to show objective quality so we don't want to go there. But just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's not reality. This reminds me of the joke: A man is searching on the ground under a street lamp. Someone comes up and asks him if he lost something. He says yes, his keys. Did you lose them here? No, I lost them in the alley but it's too dark there. When looking for objective quality, one must look in the dark alley even though it's easier to see in the subjective lighted area.
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    that's back on topic?
    Who got screwed out of their order is back on topic? Do tell, Footbear, who got screwed out of their order? What started out as a thread that was finally mostly about the music in the box has degenerated into another bile fest. Guess some people feel better having an audience. I'm about done with these boards, myself. Talk about disenchanted and disgusted...... Sheesh.
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    March 29, 1990 on VINYL, yes please.
  • Hoopsie
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    In a vain effort to return the discussion to the excellent but somewhat inefficiently shipped box set -- I was only able to catch the boys from 85-95, so 89 and 90 stand out as the apex years, with Jerry sounding fresh and not so ragged and tired, and inspired ensemble playing. I am so glad to have this. It will be cherished for years. Wish I was able to catch 5-2-70, but I was still only 4! Geez, you people who were able to see these shows must be practically senior citizens by now! ;-) Now, if only they'd ship my replacement for the cracked Disc 3 of 3/16/90? See, I'm not bitter.
  • Tanis Fane
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    Quality _is_ subjective, no matter how you describe it. The idea of one artist being more talented than another is subjective. Is Monet better than Van Gogh? Quality is, for most people, subjective to the price at bidding that has been established by people claiming authority to declare it such. Objectively, something is "good" or "bad" because it has been granted a more desirable status in a given framework. Social capital, if you will. You place great cultural capital in Jerry's playing and thus, for you, he is the best. The value I place on his playing, though high, is not as valuable for me as it is to you. I'd pay more for someone else. (Much as I value/love/geek-out-over the Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd, VU is still, for me, minted from the most valuable coin music/art provides.) You are correct about my mis-attribution of the "bold"-ness, that was someone else calling it that. My mistake. :) But the comparison of Pigpen dying and the band continuing vs. Jerry dying and not continuing, isn't a fair one. The first, a member dies while everyone in the band is still under 30 years of age. When they're all around 50, another one dies after 30 years together. Economics and age played as much a role in that. And then, as you said and I agree, even when the "tribute" bands contained all members but Jerry, it wasn't the same. But neither was a JGB show anything like a GD concert. I'm not attempting to convince you, or anyone, to alter their opinions. You've made a great case as to JG being your favorite guitarist, and that is a valid opinion and reasoning you have. Declare one better than another when you reach a level of quality and performance between Clapton (whom I think is not as favorable as JJ Cale), Hendrix, Garcia, and let's say... Carlos Santana. Who is better? Depends on the night, the performance, the song. Ask most musicians, especially of an age to have seen a taster's choice of Great Guitarist, and Hendrix will, for good reason, be often cited as the best. I think Hendrix was a Beethoven-level musician. Making Garcia a Liszt-level guitarist, doesn't take anything away from him at all. Two entirely different styles, backgrounds, and intentions from each in what they attempted to do musically. Hendrix deliberately complicated his music as he progressed, while Garcia often spoke of enjoying simpler-constructions because it enabled the ability to freely improvise upon it. Personally, I think it's great that you are passionate about this. It's music, and musicians are people we turn to to share the most intimate aspects of our lives: when we're joyous, when we're depressed, when we're furious about blah, blah, or blah. I personally don't think of the ears of the Dead as one being better than another. Nothin' gets me goin' like a scorching rampage through The Eleven (which didn't happen after 70-71), but paring Scarlet & Fire couldn't have happened before 77. Terrapin is easily the most often played live song for me, but that's because there was only a single version of, and terribly recorded, Rosemary. Because they did what they did and continually evolved in their sound and performance, they've given us this huge palette from which we all, evidently, paint our own pictures of the past and what we want them to be for us, and some of these paintings we call masterpieces.
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    Quality is not purely subjective. No way to prove it to you in words. So I'll stop here. "And without the GD, Jerry wouldn’t be known outside of some audiophiliac music fiends." Nonsense! He was a musician extraordinare and his passion would move him toward notoriety one way or another. He didn't need the Dead, he CREATED the Dead. And he would have done something no matter who he worked with. Hunter and Garcia met completely independent of the Dead. "Jerry without the Dead mostly likely wouldn’t have had Hunter as a song-writing partner, thus none of these songs would have come about." Of course the same exact songs wouldn't have come about, but I certainly wouldn't have cared. All I would care about is hearing Jerry, no matter what he did, because he was GREAT and would have been no matter what. "Favorites are favorites for damn good reasons. But yours are no more objectively the best than mine," I never said that. I said art is not just subjective; that there is an objective component. I never said MY likes were any more objective than any one else's. "You can congratulate yourself all you want for “bold statements” (Jerry is the greatest guitarist is hardly a bold statement on Dead.net." I didn't call it "bold". Another poster did. Anyway, we can agree to disagree. At least we agree about Donna! One more thing: With all the personell changes, the Grateful Dead were great, even after losing Pigpen, and all the other keyboardist they lost, as well as when Mickey was gone. Then when Jerry was gone - poof. No good any more. They didn't continue because they couldn't. But anyone else they lost Jerry could have kept the band going. The post Jerry band called "The Dead" and then "Further"; I'm sorry but they sucked compared to the Grateful Dead. Jerry made the GD, he was the GD, and could have created a great band with any good musicians.
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    So, RBMunkin, In the spirit of analytic debate, he's a response contrary to a number of your "bold" statements. Your analyzing note-by-note and what-have-you, doesn’t mark you as any less subjective than Best Of polls by whomever. Your liking Jerry's guitar work better than anyone else's is one thing, but no matter how much note-by-note comparisons you make, it doesn’t elevate your opinion to the level of objective. “Without Jerry the phenomenon of the Grateful Dead never would have gotten past small clubs if that.” And without the GD, Jerry wouldn’t be known outside of some audiophiliac music fiends. Considering they all talked about how essential each one of them was to the whole, and based their entire musical philosophy around that, you’re deconstructing the Dead is a great theoretic exercise, but one that misunderstands the overall point of the collective being more important aurally than the individual components. “Robert Hunter was a great poet. He's my second favorite Dead.” Absolutely a great poet. Also one who likely would have never written with Jerry without the GD. Hunter knew Kesey from the Menlo Park research. Kesey knew the Dead through Owsley. The Dead played through the Acid Tests. Without that connection, probably no song-writing team of Hunter/Garcia. “Phil was a great musician in many ways but never would have gotten so popular without Jerry.” Maybe. Is Brian Eno “popular”? Is John Cale? Robert Fripp? Phil would have likely progressed along those experimental lines without the GD. “Bob, meh. Very good rhythm guitarist, taught largely by Jerry. Vocals, song writing, and personality - not my cup of tea. He was always jealous of Jerry being the front man. He wanted to be the front man but just plain old didn't have the talent or personality.” Did he now? Good to know. I never thought he was a great guitar player, nor a great song writer, but he did pen the music of Sugar Mag, Looks Like Rain, and belt out a mean Minglewood. GD wouldn’t have been without this finger on the hand. “Drummers - very good but the Dead could have gone on with different ones.” And the sound of “rolling thunder” wouldn’t be. Thus, no Dead as we know it. No Scarlet>Fire, no PITB. “Keyboards - Pigpen was the only GREAT one.” 
Not so. But you can believe that all you wish. Pigpen had charisma and was a “stone jack baller and his heart was true” but he couldn’t play piano very well. He blew a mean nasty dirty mouth harp, but his musical ability didn’t span a great spectrum. Keith was quite proficient on piano but limited on organ and the encroaching diversity and array of keyboards. Any discussion of Brent is for another time. “Donna - OMG why was she ever in the Dead?! Just horrible. Sounded like a bag full of cats being hit with a bat. Okay on a couple of studio albums but ruined many a live concert recording.” I agree, but then there a couple of Eyes of the World and Sugar Mag she doesn’t sound bad on. I usually skip tunes if she gets gonna too much. Jerry without the Dead mostly likely wouldn’t have had Hunter as a song-writing partner, thus none of these songs would have come about. Talented as he was, he would likely have been a bit like Ry Cooder, Al Di Meola, and such ilk. Infinitely talented and diverse, but without a band, they go through the ages being treasured by a few, liked by some more, and unknown to most. As for “Hendrix to me was a bit one-sided. The overall sound always sounded a bit the same. Absolutely amazing but limited IMHO” … I think your lack of analyses is demonstrated lacking here. Y’know, cuz 1983 sounds sooooo much like Purple Haze. And Jimi with a 12-string acoustic is the same one-sided sound as when slaughtered ear drums at Monterey with the opening riff of Killing Floor. Favorites are favorites for damn good reasons. But yours are no more objectively the best than mine, VH-1s, or Rolling Stones polls from readers who can’t remember back any further than last summer’s hot thing. You can congratulate yourself all you want for “bold statements” (Jerry is the greatest guitarist is hardly a bold statement on Dead.net. And your argument lacks anything beyond your talk of how awesome you feel when you listen to him play. He’s great. But talk of the “best” is beyond the faculties at hand. Or… ehem… ear. P.S. If anyone is interested in might-have-beens with music, check out a novel called Glimpses by Lewis Shiner. A guy puts on his headphones and hears records by his favorite bands that never were: a Doors album post-LA Woman, Beach Boys beyond Brian Wilson's mental collapse, another Beatles record... that kind of thing.
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    Also, if you know they are going to sell out so fast make more!
    I don't have much money at all in this point in my life and it really stinks I can't take advantage of items like this. But all the T shirts are sold out and all the box sets. Is it fans or people who are going to sell them on eBay?
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    Also where's 3-29-90!!
    Isn't that the Bradford Marcalis show? Did I butcher his last names spelling . The eyes of the works from that 3-29 is so sick, but I think it's on Dozin at the Nick
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What's Inside:
• 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
• 25th Anniversary Tour Program
• Official Band Letters
• 6 Ticket Stubs
• 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
• 1 Tour Laminate
• Official 1990 Band publicity shot
• 6 complete shows on 18 discs
      • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
      • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
      • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
Original art by Wes Lang
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

-Blair Jackson

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simonrob, I got the same message today! Also curious as to why someone in Holland is charged around $27 postage and yet mine in the UK is $35.95, just sayin'
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simonrob, I got the same message today! Also curious as to why someone in Holland is charged around $27 postage and yet mine in the UK is $35.95, just sayin'
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Box arrived this morning in southern suburb of Cleveland, OH.
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I got 8937, thats so cool, one of the final one hundred. Thankyou Rhino. I wont waste space complaining about complainers. The truth is everybody is experiencing thier own truth. So, I geuss im complaining abot the complainers who complain about complainers is that circular or what! nice package good books and bonus stuff. not nesacarry but nice and special. I made my first show was7-4-90 sandstone amp bonner springs thats pretty funny kansas. .I am just happy i dint get killed during the 8 month wait for e72 that was good I think they improved in some ways and declined in others, but over all the product is good and the substance is high class!!! The sound is good the mix is great the playing is good for the time, but hey i need a break from e72 and the 70's in general, i appreciate it all even the stuff from 66 , the truth is they came from somwhere and went somewhere and played many spaces between It is fasinating to listen to 72 and jump to 90 differences abound just like my summation about the box some improvments some declines, They aint perfect but they are the only ones to do what they did and are doing still and i love them all for that even the complainers God bless us, Everyone!!!
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I got 8937, thats so cool, one of the final one hundred. Thankyou Rhino. I wont waste space complaining about complainers. The truth is everybody is experiencing thier own truth. So, I geuss im complaining abot the complainers who complain about complainers is that circular or what! nice package good books and bonus stuff. not nesacarry but nice and special. I made my first show was7-4-90 sandstone amp bonner springs thats pretty funny kansas. .I am just happy i dint get killed during the 8 month wait for e72 that was good I think they improved in some ways and declined in others, but over all the product is good and the substance is high class!!! The sound is good the mix is great the playing is good for the time, but hey i need a break from e72 and the 70's in general, i appreciate it all even the stuff from 66 , the truth is they came from somwhere and went somewhere and played many spaces between It is fasinating to listen to 72 and jump to 90 differences abound just like my summation about the box some improvments some declines, They aint perfect but they are the only ones to do what they did and are doing still and i love them all for that even the complainers God bless us, Everyone!!!
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My wife sent me a picture of the box. Much cooler than the plain E72 box, and something nice to store it in. That phrase is what I had put on my E72 personalized sticker. Can't wait to get my ears on these - I have avoided hearing too much about the setlists so hopefully it's a surprise to me (other than the well-known selections from certain shows).
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I also don't understand the difference in shipping costs to Holland and England. I am not certain, but I seem to recall that when i ordered this the only shipping option that was suitable was International. Having checked that box, the $27.95 charge appeared. This time I don't recall seeing a choice between UPS and USPS.Stranger things have happened when ordering from here, so I guess you'll just have to live with it.
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Hola! #2112 (anagram!) has arrived in wonderfully pristine condition here in Lexington, KY. Cannot wait to delve into the treasures. So happy I did NOT watch the "opening of the box" video (though a terrific idea). The shipping box was unexpected and way cool - - - I need how to figure out how to frame it! DCFHOF . . . it's time! Davey aka The Cyclone
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Timmaytoo got 8937, which would lead you to believe that the 9000 are sold out or damn close, yet as of this morning's info, there are more like 1900 remaining. I guess the message says "fewer than 1900" and 63 is definitely fewer than 1900. But anyway, mine should be at home when I arrive, at least based on the "out for delivery" tracking info I just saw. Yeehah, just in time for the weekend!
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I haven't got mine yet, but I doubt than the limited edition number can be seen from the outside of the box.This means that you could be the only buyer and still get box number 9000. It would also mean that there is no way of allocating specific box numbers to specific order numbers. If anyone who has received theirs knows different then iit just goes to show how pointless idle speculation is.
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So I see that it was sorted and left the local USPS for delivery. I called home to ask my son to check the porch to see if a package had arrived. He said "There is a box with some skeletons on it; is that the package you are looking for"? Yes, that would be it .... But still no DaP #3 .... All in good time ....
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Mine arrived at my doorstep a few hours ago and it is everything I hoped it would be. The replica tickets and passes are Deadhead-nerdlicious, I really underestimated how cool the soft cover book would be. They did a great job with the high gloss and neat imprints and amazing pictures. Each show gets its own section in the hardcover book, which also impresses. It is always tough to part with $200 for a box set, but I have no buyers remorse after thumbing through the amazingness in this box....and I have yet to even pop a cd in the music machine!
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Hola - 2112=Palidrome NOT Anagram. Sorry, I will need to turn myself into P.O.E.M. (Professional Organization of English Majors). By the way, the ticket stubs nearly brought tears of remembrance to my eyes . . . always loved getting the GDTS tickets with the Taper stamp. Beyond cool. Yippe! It's grate to be a Hippee! Davey aka The Cyclone
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"#2112 (anagram!) has arrived in wonderfully pristine condition here in Lexington, KY. Cannot wait to delve into the treasures." When I saw you got number "2112", I immediately thought about "Rush". An album that used to get endless play on my turntable back in the day. I have a copy coming with an order placed with a friend of mine to his address so we could save on shipping costs. Hopefully I'll get a phone call from him shortly when he gets home from work advising me that "It's here". I just started listening to my copy of Daves picks 3, which arrived today in my mailbox.
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Everyone who is upset by the fact that their box set numbers don't coincide with when they actually ordered the box set really need to get over it. All that matters is that you actually received the music and if you're one of those people that bought it just to sell it and wanted a low number to make more money then I'm glad you didn't get what you wanted. GET OVER IT!
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I honestly was expecting to wait at least a week, but lo and behold...the box, including the exquisite shipping box,..was there on the table waiting for me with the "good things are coming OUR way" caption facing me...indeed! So,..without furthur adu (sp?!!),...Thank you,..thank you..one hundred thousand thank you's. Y'all have outdone yourselves this time. The Spring 1900 Box is absolutely heavenly.
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I would imagine if someone bought a set(s) in order to sell it at a profit, they wouldn't open the shrink wrap, and thus would never know what number the set(s) they were selling had. Are the people who are just now receiving DP3 subscribers? Because I got my copy a couple of weeks ago.
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what makes your opinions so valid i need to hold them too? its a valid complaint, especially when you consider customers were given false information. i've listened to the first show. i'm happy with the music, but part of me feels jaded.
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Mine (#5838) came today (contrary to my previous experience, by the mail carrier). The updated delivery/tracking e-mail was completely accurate, said it left the local P.O. this morning, so I went home for lunch and was there to receive it. The first disc sounds pretty good so far, and I like the packaging, even though that's not what I bought it for . . .
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The box arrived in the mail today here in beautiful New Jersey. First show sounds great so far. I ordered early but not so early that no 93 makes sense compared to others here. I have no intention of selling so the number is meaningless in any event. Back to the music....
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The box arrived in the mail today here in beautiful New Jersey. First show sounds great so far. I ordered early but not so early that no 93 makes sense compared to others here. I have no intention of selling so the number is meaningless in any event. Back to the music.... Sorry for the double posting.
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that I would want to keep the shipping container!! As far as "My box number doesn't correspond to when I ordered the set WAHHHHHH!" -- Well, that was not part of the pitch at the web site. What you say customer service told you don't matter a whack to anybody. You know a lot. But you don't yet know "customer service" doesn't know a thing? In this forum and elsewhere, you're a known serial complainer. Sorry, known whiner. Sorry, I meant, really, known bore. We're falling asleep. Time to tune out Fox and in Box.
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Box arrived today (awesome), but one of the discs in the fifth show is completely cracked and the sixth show packaging is torn down the middle. I hope everyone else gets theirs in the correct amount of pieces. Happy listening.
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WOW!!! This box set looks absolutely fantastic! The shipping box is a cool surprise too. Hey #8150 and #8152 are you out there? Do you live next door to me? Just kidding.
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#7055First off, the shipping box is great...what a phenomenal way to see that Spring 1990 had arrived. The packaging is just as I would have expected...the program, the book, etc. are all top quality. Am just listening to the first show in Landover and the boys sound great. I know it is a lot of money but, in my opinion, it is worth it.
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anyone with overnight shipping receive anything yet? email, box, anything...?
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Nope. I called customer service and they really don't know anything either.
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This is a terrific boxed set. Dislc one sounds unbelievable i love the package books and goodies. Time to.put disc twos on. Thanks David for putting this out
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Still waiting on mine. I ordered it right as it opened for sale. I can't get any tracking info at all and for $35 shipping you'd think could get it right. I got the shirts I ordered at the same time a week ago and got another email yesterday says they were shipping that part of the order. (the shirts)So where is the set. I live in WA state and that's a damn lot closer that GB. They were so much better when they did their sales Inhouse.
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The Packaging is totally A-grade. I don't know how often I'll peruse the extra material, but there is no doubt that this is high quality stuff. I am looking forward to diving into it tomorrow...
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i was perfectly happy with the show selections. i dropped $200 + tax in the first 10 minutes it became available. i was told on 2 separate occasions the limited edition number would reflect this, but it didn't. its a legitimate complaint. if it bores you why engage me? you're just looking for a fight, because you can't get hurt on the internet. every time i have an issue someone confronts me. i don't need more '70s dead, and i'm a little pissed i paid for the box set right away. i could have just waited a week when i'd have more funds available. those are the only complaints i've leveled thus far. some of you act like any complaint is akin to pissing on jerry's grave. in this case its an honest observation, but i guess i should just get down on my knees, and thank my lucky stars that we're so fortunate the grateful dead are still willing to profit off of us. some of you are just such suck ups it makes me want to barf. i bet you brought your teachers apples everyday too?
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I'm not sure why Rhino can't get a proper product out - but after an absolutely horrible time getting the E72 set - the Spring 90 Box arrived with a cracked disc 2 of 3/22/90. When I called "the special hotline support" I was told it would take 2-3 days before someone from "support" would approve sending a replacement. When I asked to speak to support, naturally they don't have a phone (per Michelle who took my call). They must be the only support department on the planet without a PHONE. So if anyone has any juice at Dead.Net - how about getting me my disc 2 and that would be much appreciated.
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I'm not sure why Rhino can't get a proper product out - but after an absolutely horrible time getting the E72 set - the Spring 90 Box arrived with a cracked disc 2 of 3/22/90. When I called "the special hotline support" I was told it would take 2-3 days before someone from "support" would approve sending a replacement. When I asked to speak to support, naturally they don't have a phone (per Michelle who took my call). They must be the only support department on the planet without a PHONE. So if anyone has any juice at Dead.Net - how about getting me my disc 2 and that would be much appreciated.
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I thought a friend of mine had ordered this set. He said he was going to make copies for me. Lo and behold, it's one of his friend's who ordered it. So, rather than accepting copies of copies, I decided to get one for myself. I'm not happy with the price tag and had more than a couple second thoughts, but I figure that the set will remain mint for many years and may one day bring a nice dollar on eBay one day.
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I'm with you there. For me, it's Show 5 Disc 1 and the packaging for Show 6. I was routed to a different Customer Services number where no one answered (even after 30 minutes).
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I also have a cracked disc 3 from 3/22/90. Called the support number. They had me call 1-800-546-3670, which ended up to be Dr. Rhino. No-one answered. It went immediately to a voicemail box. I left a message but will probably follow it up with e-mails to both Dead.net support and Dr. Rhino tomorrow. Never dealt with them before so I'm not sure what to expect or in what time frame. I'm almost through the first show and pretty happy with what I am hearing. I also EAC'd the whole set and no other errors came up. So far it's just that one snag that I need ironed out. We'll see what happens. I might stay up and listen to a second show tonight although I'm fading. Enjoy
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Wow, someone actually cares what number they get on their box set? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. As long as it's in the first 9,000, you should be grateful. I got in on Dave's Picks within 5 minutes of getting the message. So far, I'm 3775/12000, 2934/12000 and 982/12000. So what? The music is the same on #1 as it is on #12,000. I'm not sure how anyone could expect a fulfillment process to take the time they made their order into consideration for anything. Then again, some people think they are the center of the universe.
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Wow, you guys have some bad luck. I have purchased a couple thousand jazz, classical and rock cd's, and I have never gotten one that was cracked. Of course I have received duplicates and cd's with glitches, but of the 100+ I have purchased from dead.net I have never had a single problem. For the record, I got my box today, a week early. When I saw it on the porch I was worried, because one of the corners was bashed in...someone had obviously dropped it. When I opened the shipping box and removed the indian head box, there was no damage, not even a dent on the corner that hit the ground. I listened to the first show this evening and it sounds great, thanks for another solid release.
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Arrived today and I'm just lovin' it. Seriously, when unboxing this thing it is clear they put a lot of love and care into it. It says something about the fun (remember fun?) of owning the physical product. Lots to look at - it creates a who experience while listening to this amazing and timeless music. Can't wait till the next box set!
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They so messed up my E72 order that someone from Rhino corporate ended up making it happen for me after some time. Hopefully we both get our replacements quickly.
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They so messed up my E72 order that someone from Rhino corporate ended up making it happen for me after some time. Hopefully we both get our replacements quickly.
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Until E72 - the only problem I had was with the 9/16/90 Disc 1 of the MSG Dicks's Picks. But that was a problem that many had and the replacement was painless. That was also before Rhino. I also have thousands and can only think of two that I've bought that have problems - this and a Steve Winwood CD from Mobile Fidelity of all places.

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This box is beautiful. Hoped I might arrive home to find it waiting, and it was! Haven't heard a note yet, but the hardcover book is really sweet, some GREAT pictures in it ~ especially Jerry. The tickets are fun, and quite perfect replicas ~ my brother saw the red-tinted Copps one and said, "that's it!, one night was blue and the other night was red." I'll have to bust out my stubs from that tour, but ~ unlike the one here ~ I didn't have mail order tix for Cap Centre. Anyway, being tucked into a tiny little compartment you otherwise wouldn't notice, they're easily ignored if you so choose ~ I like 'em. Sad to see the Brent tribute at the back of the Europe tour book. I was in Europe that summer, calling home from Prague ~ where phone service then was, wait in line for 20 minutes, then get 3 minutes on the phone, and that's it. My Mom had just told me that "one of the Grateful Dead died." "WHICH ONE?" I asked in excited despair. Before she could answer, my 3 minutes ended. I had to wait in line again, wondering all the way who was gone. When my brother got on and said "Brent," I was absolutely stunned. I think he was the only one I DIDN'T imagine..... Anyway, gotta say I'm particularly looking forward to 3/30 ~ haven't heard it since the night happened. For some reason, it was always missing from the Archive, and I never had the tape. Wish Crazy Fingers -> Playing from 3/14 was filler on Landover, but David seems to be strongly implying the shows NOT chosen will be released; or they're all prime candidates, at least. Hence the filler only for the Albany show that's otherwise released. Plenty to listen to for now. I'm fading, too, to quote someone else tonight, but I think I'm going to open the book to page one and pop a disc on....say, "Iko Iko" to start 2nd set Nassau.......?
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I was impressed seeing the box yesterday. Under promise and over deliver, its a good strategy. I paid $13 for standard shipping and received it in 2 days. I'm not sure it matters which method you pay for, it probably all goes the same way. My only complaint is the USPS beat up one of corners. I ordered the first days and received a number in the high 7000s. I loved the extras. I'm in my 40s, but oly discovered the GD a couple of years ago, but have managed to picked up a lot of the backlist, including all but 8 of the dicks picks, all the road trips, but I am missing the 69 Fillmore box set. On ebay, I saw a limited box set of a GD, Allman Brothers concert. I'm wondering what others think of it.
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I was impressed seeing the box yesterday. Under promise and over deliver, its a good strategy. I paid $13 for standard shipping and received it in 2 days. I'm not sure it matters which method you pay for, it probably all goes the same way. My only complaint is the USPS beat up one of corners. I ordered the first days and received a number in the high 7000s. I loved the extras. I'm in my 40s, but oly discovered the GD a couple of years ago, but have managed to picked up a lot of the backlist, including all but 8 of the dicks picks, all the road trips, but I am missing the 69 Fillmore box set. On ebay, I saw a limited box set of a GD, Allman Brothers concert. I'm wondering what others think of it.
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Like both Bnewton and ziggybirds, I have purchased tons of Cd's, litterly more than a few thousand. In 30 years I probably have had less then 10 bad discs. I don't think I ever got one cracked. The person assembling these sets, if hand assembled, probably forced the disc on the digi pack spindle. That's my guess. From what a gather from reading the Europe 72 thread, dealing with Dr. Rhino for replacements can be a pain in the neck. Still, I'm giving them the benefit that they will be accountable and I'll get some kind open communication from them in a timely manner and a resolution.Digging into some more shows this afternoon though. Loving the box!
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Frunobulax for the center of the universe maybe you should look in the mirror. Some people think their perspective is the only way to look at life. Let me explain. Some people are what are called collectors. Doesn't matter what stamps coins beanie babies whatever. It's irrelevant what you think of the items only what the collector thinks (one man gathers what another man spills). Now the numbers. For some collectors (most?) the lower the number on limited editions the more valuable (again irrelevant if you don't think so you clearly aren't a collector in the sense I am using it). I ordered within 15 min. of it going online and got # 6147. Luckily for me the number isn't really that important. And yes they could easily give the early birds the lower numbers other collectables do it all the time. The community is made up of all kinds of people with many interests. Some pick and choose the shows they but, some buy them all. To think your way is the only way is mistaken
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funny, I ordered mine last friday (August 17) and got 4179.
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