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    Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978



    ROAD TRIPS 1.4
    From Egypt With Love

    The two-CD Road Trips set,
    plus a third Bonus Disc,
    is drawn from the two
    shows of the series that are in the vault,
    October 21 and 22, 1978.

    ::More Information on RT 1.4




    More Egypt '78

    Egypt In The Archives

    Photos, Passes & the Poster

    The Egypt Shows

    September 14, 1978
    September 15, 1978
    September 16, 1978

    Videos

    Enjoy a short video montage from the
    Egypt '78 DVD.
    Watch Now

    Watch a Video of Bertha in Egypt,
    September 16th
    Watch Now

    Interview

    Listen in on an interview
    with Richard Loren on how Egypt
    happened.
    Listen Now

    At Long Last...
    Egypt '78
    Order Now

    2 Disc Set + 1 DVD

    :: View the boxed set in 3D!

    Good things come to those who wait! First, it took 30 years to produce this ultra-cool 2CD/DVD set from the Dead’s legendary September 1978 run at the Sound & Light Theater, outside Cairo, nestled in the dunes just a short mummy-walk from the Great Pyramid and the mysterious Sphinx. Then, Dead Heads had to endure the long, restless weeks between the announcement of the release and when they could actually order it. Well, ring them bells, because the wait is over! Dead.net is NOW accepting orders for this beautiful and historic package, Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978, which includes two exceptional music CDs and a DVD with over 95 minutes of concert footage from the Egypt shows (plus an impressionistic “Vacation Tapes” mini-documentary that shows the band and Dead family at play).

    Much has been written about this storied adventure: About the band’s long-standing desire to play in “places of power,” as Phil put it years ago… The incredible logistical gymnastics necessary to get permission for this strangest of American rock bands to bring their peculiar alchemy to the cradle of the ancient world… The huge, scattered caravan of crazies that descended on Cairo from the U.S. and Europe, drawn to the desert by some irresistible force… The sheer magnitude of shipping in tons of sound equipment, setting up in 110-degree heat, maxing out the local power grid, trying to turn the King’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid into an echo chamber (alas, Osiris would have none of that!)… The wondrous interplay at each of the three concerts between Nubian drummers and singers and the Grateful Dead… The miraculous final show, during a total lunar eclipse… The synchronicity of that last show and the signing of a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel… Magical horse and camel rides under the desert moon…Trips up and down the Nile… High adventure at every turn!

    The three Egypt concerts—September 14, 15, 16, 1978—were captured on a 24-track tape recorder with an eye towards putting out a live album to help defray the (considerable) cost of the expedition. When the Dead got home, however, they discovered that the tapes of all of the first night and part of the second were not useable because of technical problems. Then the band got wrapped up in finishing their Shakedown Street album (begun before the Egypt venture), and soon the notion of putting out the Egypt album lost its momentum. But just as Howard Carter and all those other explorers in the ’20s and ’30s couldn’t stay away from the tombs in the Valley of the Kings, the Dead weren’t about to let those Egypt multitracks stay buried by the sands of time. Next thing you know there’s a phone call to ace GD mixer Jeffrey Norman and he and vaultkeeper David Lemieux discover that despite the problems with the first night’s tapes, there’s still lots of great material available from nights two and three, including: a dynamite “Shakedown Street” (just the second live version ever), “Truckin’,” an exquisite “Stella Blue,” “Eyes of the World,” fresh takes on then-new songs such as “Stagger Lee” and “I Need A Miracle,” and the hypnotic Egyptian tune called “Ollin Arageed” that features Hamza El Din and other percussionists, who are then joined by the Dead for a jam into “Fire on the Mountain.” Wow!

    And the concert video, though rough around the edges in places, is quite a revelation as well. Not only does the DVD include many of the best tunes on the CDs—you’ll dig seeing Jerry do some pretty energetic thrashing here and there—it contains two songs not on disc—“Bertha” and “Good Lovin’.” The concert material has been mixed in both stereo and surround sound, with two listening options: DTS 5.1 and PCM Stereo. The beautifully designed booklet (with cover inspired by the late, great Alton Kelley’s Egypt 1978 tour poster) contains a revealing essay by longtime Ice Nine Publishing chief (and Egypt trip co-organizer) Alan Trist, and many rare photos. All that’s missing is sand, the smell of camels and some “hubbly-bubbly”!

    So don’t delay! Order Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978 today by going Here.

    Track List

    Disc 1

    1. “Jack Straw”

    2. “Row Jimmy”

    3. “New, New Minglewood Blues”

    4. “Candyman”

    5. “Looks Like Rain”

    6. “Stagger Lee”

    7. “I Need A Miracle”

    8. “It’s All Over Now”

    9. “Deal”

     

    Disc 2

    1. “Ollin Arageed”

    2. “Fire On The Mountain”

    3. “Iko Iko”

    4. “Shakedown Street”

    5. “Drums”

    6. “Space”

    7. “Truckin’”

    8. “Stella Blue”

    9. “Around And Around”

     

    DVD

    Track Listing

    1.“Bertha”

    2. “Good Lovin’”

    3. “Row Jimmy”

    4. “New, Minglewood Blues”

    5. “Candyman”

    6. “Looks Like Rain”

    7. “Deal”

    8. “Ollin Arageed”

    9. “Fire On The Mountain”

    10. “Iko Iko”

    11. “I Need A Miracle”

    12. “It’s All Over Now”

    13. “Truckin’”

    Featurette: “The Vacation Tapes”

     

    Road Trips Vol. 1, No. 4 features Winterland ’78 “From Egypt With Love” shows!

    It must be the Curse of the Pharaoh’s Tomb or something, because once we’d put together Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt ’78, we couldn’t get Egypt out of our system. Suddenly it seemed only natural that the next Road Trips should be culled from the great five-night “From Egypt With Love” run the Dead played at Winterland a month after they returned from Cairo. Each night the band treated the hometown fans to an extensive slide show of their travels, and at two of the concerts, Hamza El Din joined the Dead for versions of “Ollin Arageed” that helped summon even more of the flavor of Egypt. Harmonica ace Lee Oskar (of War) showed up a couple of nights, and at the final show, John Cipollina added his distinctive guitar to the back half of the second set. The two-CD Road Trips set is drawn from the final two shows of the series, October 11 and 22, 1978. Get complete order information Here.

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  • Big-Gar
    16 years 2 months ago
    Egypt
    Looks like nice stuff. Hope the audio quality is OK, past listenings from tapes were pretty rough sonically and musically. I remember Garcia saying they played poorly at these shows and they had technical problems and a little too much of that "hubbly bubbly"! I'm in just for the pure fun of it. Enjoy. Peace
  • Oroboros
    16 years 2 months ago
    Yes, it was outdoors
    at, I believe, the Giza Theater of Sound and Light (by the Sphinx?). Louie Armstrong, Sinatra, etc. played there along with many others. Wind is always a factor as well as sound dispertion difficulties. But hey, it was the Dead in Egypt, afterall.
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    Greg SC
    16 years 2 months ago
    music preview
    It'd be nice to get a preview of the music, so I can check out the sound. I am assuming this is an outdoor show? I am not a big fan of outdoor acoustics, or lack thereof. Greg SC
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ROAD TRIPS 1.4
From Egypt With Love

The two-CD Road Trips set,
plus a third Bonus Disc,
is drawn from the two
shows of the series that are in the vault,
October 21 and 22, 1978.

::More Information on RT 1.4




More Egypt '78

Egypt In The Archives

Photos, Passes & the Poster

The Egypt Shows

September 14, 1978
September 15, 1978
September 16, 1978

Videos

Enjoy a short video montage from the
Egypt '78 DVD.
Watch Now

Watch a Video of Bertha in Egypt,
September 16th
Watch Now

Interview

Listen in on an interview
with Richard Loren on how Egypt
happened.
Listen Now

At Long Last...
Egypt '78
Order Now

2 Disc Set + 1 DVD

:: View the boxed set in 3D!

Good things come to those who wait! First, it took 30 years to produce this ultra-cool 2CD/DVD set from the Dead’s legendary September 1978 run at the Sound & Light Theater, outside Cairo, nestled in the dunes just a short mummy-walk from the Great Pyramid and the mysterious Sphinx. Then, Dead Heads had to endure the long, restless weeks between the announcement of the release and when they could actually order it. Well, ring them bells, because the wait is over! Dead.net is NOW accepting orders for this beautiful and historic package, Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978, which includes two exceptional music CDs and a DVD with over 95 minutes of concert footage from the Egypt shows (plus an impressionistic “Vacation Tapes” mini-documentary that shows the band and Dead family at play).

Much has been written about this storied adventure: About the band’s long-standing desire to play in “places of power,” as Phil put it years ago… The incredible logistical gymnastics necessary to get permission for this strangest of American rock bands to bring their peculiar alchemy to the cradle of the ancient world… The huge, scattered caravan of crazies that descended on Cairo from the U.S. and Europe, drawn to the desert by some irresistible force… The sheer magnitude of shipping in tons of sound equipment, setting up in 110-degree heat, maxing out the local power grid, trying to turn the King’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid into an echo chamber (alas, Osiris would have none of that!)… The wondrous interplay at each of the three concerts between Nubian drummers and singers and the Grateful Dead… The miraculous final show, during a total lunar eclipse… The synchronicity of that last show and the signing of a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel… Magical horse and camel rides under the desert moon…Trips up and down the Nile… High adventure at every turn!

The three Egypt concerts—September 14, 15, 16, 1978—were captured on a 24-track tape recorder with an eye towards putting out a live album to help defray the (considerable) cost of the expedition. When the Dead got home, however, they discovered that the tapes of all of the first night and part of the second were not useable because of technical problems. Then the band got wrapped up in finishing their Shakedown Street album (begun before the Egypt venture), and soon the notion of putting out the Egypt album lost its momentum. But just as Howard Carter and all those other explorers in the ’20s and ’30s couldn’t stay away from the tombs in the Valley of the Kings, the Dead weren’t about to let those Egypt multitracks stay buried by the sands of time. Next thing you know there’s a phone call to ace GD mixer Jeffrey Norman and he and vaultkeeper David Lemieux discover that despite the problems with the first night’s tapes, there’s still lots of great material available from nights two and three, including: a dynamite “Shakedown Street” (just the second live version ever), “Truckin’,” an exquisite “Stella Blue,” “Eyes of the World,” fresh takes on then-new songs such as “Stagger Lee” and “I Need A Miracle,” and the hypnotic Egyptian tune called “Ollin Arageed” that features Hamza El Din and other percussionists, who are then joined by the Dead for a jam into “Fire on the Mountain.” Wow!

And the concert video, though rough around the edges in places, is quite a revelation as well. Not only does the DVD include many of the best tunes on the CDs—you’ll dig seeing Jerry do some pretty energetic thrashing here and there—it contains two songs not on disc—“Bertha” and “Good Lovin’.” The concert material has been mixed in both stereo and surround sound, with two listening options: DTS 5.1 and PCM Stereo. The beautifully designed booklet (with cover inspired by the late, great Alton Kelley’s Egypt 1978 tour poster) contains a revealing essay by longtime Ice Nine Publishing chief (and Egypt trip co-organizer) Alan Trist, and many rare photos. All that’s missing is sand, the smell of camels and some “hubbly-bubbly”!

So don’t delay! Order Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978 today by going Here.

Track List

Disc 1

1. “Jack Straw”

2. “Row Jimmy”

3. “New, New Minglewood Blues”

4. “Candyman”

5. “Looks Like Rain”

6. “Stagger Lee”

7. “I Need A Miracle”

8. “It’s All Over Now”

9. “Deal”

 

Disc 2

1. “Ollin Arageed”

2. “Fire On The Mountain”

3. “Iko Iko”

4. “Shakedown Street”

5. “Drums”

6. “Space”

7. “Truckin’”

8. “Stella Blue”

9. “Around And Around”

 

DVD

Track Listing

1.“Bertha”

2. “Good Lovin’”

3. “Row Jimmy”

4. “New, Minglewood Blues”

5. “Candyman”

6. “Looks Like Rain”

7. “Deal”

8. “Ollin Arageed”

9. “Fire On The Mountain”

10. “Iko Iko”

11. “I Need A Miracle”

12. “It’s All Over Now”

13. “Truckin’”

Featurette: “The Vacation Tapes”

 

Road Trips Vol. 1, No. 4 features Winterland ’78 “From Egypt With Love” shows!

It must be the Curse of the Pharaoh’s Tomb or something, because once we’d put together Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt ’78, we couldn’t get Egypt out of our system. Suddenly it seemed only natural that the next Road Trips should be culled from the great five-night “From Egypt With Love” run the Dead played at Winterland a month after they returned from Cairo. Each night the band treated the hometown fans to an extensive slide show of their travels, and at two of the concerts, Hamza El Din joined the Dead for versions of “Ollin Arageed” that helped summon even more of the flavor of Egypt. Harmonica ace Lee Oskar (of War) showed up a couple of nights, and at the final show, John Cipollina added his distinctive guitar to the back half of the second set. The two-CD Road Trips set is drawn from the final two shows of the series, October 11 and 22, 1978. Get complete order information Here.

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ROAD TRIPS 1.4
From Egypt With Love

The two-CD Road Trips set,
plus a third Bonus Disc,
will be drawn from the two
shows of the series that are in the vault,
October 21 and 22, 1978.

::More Information on RT 1.4




More Egypt '78

Egypt In The Archives

Photos, Passes & the Poster

The Egypt Shows

September 14, 1978
September 15, 1978
September 16, 1978

Video Clip

Enjoy a short video montage from the
Egypt '78 DVD.
Watch Now

At Long Last...
Egypt '78
Preorder Now

2 Disc Set + 1 DVD

:: View the boxed set in 3D!

Good things come to those who wait! First, it took 30 years to produce this ultra-cool 2CD/DVD set from the Dead’s legendary September 1978 run at the Sound & Light Theater, outside Cairo, nestled in the dunes just a short mummy-walk from the Great Pyramid and the mysterious Sphinx. Then, Dead Heads had to endure the long, restless weeks between the announcement of the release and when they could actually order it. Well, ring them bells, because the wait is over! Dead.net is NOW accepting preorders for this beautiful and historic package, Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978, which includes two exceptional music CDs and a DVD with over 95 minutes of concert footage from the Egypt shows (plus an impressionistic “Vacation Tapes” mini-documentary that shows the band and Dead family at play).

Much has been written about this storied adventure: About the band’s long-standing desire to play in “places of power,” as Phil put it years ago… The incredible logistical gymnastics necessary to get permission for this strangest of American rock bands to bring their peculiar alchemy to the cradle of the ancient world… The huge, scattered caravan of crazies that descended on Cairo from the U.S. and Europe, drawn to the desert by some irresistible force… The sheer magnitude of shipping in tons of sound equipment, setting up in 110-degree heat, maxing out the local power grid, trying to turn the King’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid into an echo chamber (alas, Osiris would have none of that!)… The wondrous interplay at each of the three concerts between Nubian drummers and singers and the Grateful Dead… The miraculous final show, during a total lunar eclipse… The synchronicity of that last show and the signing of a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel… Magical horse and camel rides under the desert moon…Trips up and down the Nile… High adventure at every turn!

The three Egypt concerts—September 14, 15, 16, 1978—were captured on a 24-track tape recorder with an eye towards putting out a live album to help defray the (considerable) cost of the expedition. When the Dead got home, however, they discovered that the tapes of all of the first night and part of the second were not useable because of technical problems. Then the band got wrapped up in finishing their Shakedown Street album (begun before the Egypt venture), and soon the notion of putting out the Egypt album lost its momentum. But just as Howard Carter and all those other explorers in the ’20s and ’30s couldn’t stay away from the tombs in the Valley of the Kings, the Dead weren’t about to let those Egypt multitracks stay buried by the sands of time. Next thing you know there’s a phone call to ace GD mixer Jeffrey Norman and he and vaultkeeper David Lemieux discover that despite the problems with the first night’s tapes, there’s still lots of great material available from nights two and three, including: a dynamite “Shakedown Street” (just the second live version ever), “Truckin’,” an exquisite “Stella Blue,” “Eyes of the World,” fresh takes on then-new songs such as “Stagger Lee” and “I Need A Miracle,” and the hypnotic Egyptian tune called “Ollin Arageed” that features Hamza El Din and other percussionists, who are then joined by the Dead for a jam into “Fire on the Mountain.” Wow!

And the concert video, though rough around the edges in places, is quite a revelation as well. Not only does the DVD include many of the best tunes on the CDs—you’ll dig seeing Jerry do some pretty energetic thrashing here and there—it contains two songs not on disc—“Bertha” and “Good Lovin’.” The concert material has been mixed in both stereo and surround sound, with two listening options: DTS 5.1 and PCM Stereo. The beautifully designed booklet (with cover inspired by the late, great Alton Kelley’s Egypt 1978 tour poster) contains a revealing essay by longtime Ice Nine Publishing chief (and Egypt trip co-organizer) Alan Trist, and many rare photos. All that’s missing is sand, the smell of camels and some “hubbly-bubbly”!

So don’t delay! Order Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978 today by going Here.

Track List

Disc 1

1. “Jack Straw”

2. “Row Jimmy”

3. “New, New Minglewood Blues”

4. “Candyman”

5. “Looks Like Rain”

6. “Stagger Lee”

7. “I Need A Miracle”

8. “It’s All Over Now”

9. “Deal”

 

Disc 2

1. “Ollin Arageed”

2. “Fire On The Mountain”

3. “Iko Iko”

4. “Shakedown Street”

5. “Drums”

6. “Space”

7. “Truckin’”

8. “Stella Blue”

9. “Around And Around”

 

DVD

Track Listing

1.“Bertha”

2. “Good Lovin’”

3. “Row Jimmy”

4. “New, Minglewood Blues”

5. “Candyman”

6. “Looks Like Rain”

7. “Deal”

8. “Ollin Arageed”

9. “Fire On The Mountain”

10. “Iko Iko”

11. “I Need A Miracle”

12. “It’s All Over Now”

13. “Truckin’”

Featurette: “The Vacation Tapes”

 

Road Trips Vol. 1, No. 4, to feature Winterland ’78 “From Egypt With Love” shows!

It must be the Curse of the Pharaoh’s Tomb or something, because once we’d put together Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt ’78, we couldn’t get Egypt out of our system. Suddenly it seemed only natural that the next Road Trips should be culled from the great five-night “From Egypt With Love” run the Dead played at Winterland a month after they returned from Cairo. Each night the band treated the hometown fans to an extensive slide show of their travels, and at two of the concerts, Hamza El Din joined the Dead for versions of “Ollin Arageed” that helped summon even more of the flavor of Egypt. Harmonica ace Lee Oskar (of War) showed up a couple of nights, and at the final show, John Cipollina added his distinctive guitar to the back half of the second set. The two-CD Road Trips set, plus a third Bonus Disc, will be drawn from the final two shows of the series, October 11 and 22, 1978. And... we want to extend a special offer to you RIGHT NOW: If you preorder both Rocking the Cradle and Road Trips, “From Egypt With Love,” together, you’ll receive six full CDs and one DVD for the special combined preorder price of $49.98! Get complete preorder information Here.

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GREAT!!Now that my order is in, when?
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Looks great but I'm still gonna pass on the Road Trips thing. Complete shows please. We know that youve got them so please release them.
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It does look great and I like the whole shows to. I do wish there was a series like dicks picks to satisfy the jones BUT.. there is something to be said for listening to the good stuff of a run and this looks like some GOOD stuff
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I like the idea of this being a compilation. The full shows lack luster in many spots, while the hot stuff appears to mostly make the release. Nice bonus w/ the RT's release too, that 10.17.78 World to Give totally smokes, and one of only three live. I'm in on both.
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I have placed my order. Let's hope it's worthwhile waiting for ... =) Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden ------------------------------ My record collection: jazzmicke
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man , i cant wait for the mail. this should be awsome
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It sounds great even coupled w/ The 4th installment of roadtrips makes it more appealing! I would prefer whole shows but anything that sounds as good as The GD Movie or Closing of Winterland Cd packages Color me In!!
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Well, I've placed my pre-order, but I sincerely hope they've sorted out the various problems with defective discs they've had since Winterland 73. I enjoy the Road Trips series, and I've been waiting for Egypt, but I don't want to put in the discs and have them start skipping all over the place like they did with the last two releases.
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Yee ha - as John Hartford sang "just when you think it can't get any better" I get my Phil/Allmans tix in the mail and then when I check my electronic mail there's Egypt just like they promised -all good things in all good time" frankly just like there was never a bad show for me any tunes I can get of the boyz are good tunes - complete shows or not please keep bringing it on.
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I don't get the title, "Rocking the Cradle" because of the mummy tombs? is there something I'm missing about that title? anyways: does the DVD contain any footage of the band goofing around? I mean, not on stage concert film, but off stage antics? I have heard there is A LOT of film somewhere like home movies or something. peace. (another quick pop-in here) ( -; pop in cc
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looking more carefully at the track listing for the DVD, I just noticed there is a "vacation tapes" track. maybe that is what I was talking about?? also, I'll second that emotion about releasing more "complete" shows. I have always been a "purist" and every moment of a concert CD/DVD should include all of the concert, or the run of concerts. why not have a 3 or 4 or 5 CD set which includes ALL of the songs played and ALL of the concert film or film that exists of the band over there?? I do not mean to sound like I'm complaining about something I haven't seen yet, and don't know about... but so what if they didn't play there 'best' in all of the songs or repeated them? I think there are a lot of folks like me, that crave to see and hear anything and everything we haven't before. If the film or tapes exist, please use them. yeah yeah yeah, I know it is a business decision, costs of producing... blah blah blah. any more Views from the Vault DVDs in the works?? Those were MOST cool! oh, and how about putting this thread into the regular forum, rather than hide it in plain sight here on the front page. (or is it there and I didn't see it?) love and peace.
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CCs Gone said: I don't get the title, "Rocking the Cradle" because of the mummy tombs? is there something I'm missing about that title? ========================================================= I'm guessing it's to do with the Fertile Crescent (Lower Egypt to what was ancient Mesopotamia [Iraq now]) being called the 'Cradle Of Civilization.'
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I placed my order and as everybody else i just can't wait to receive the box set.Question for the DVD: i hope it is encoded for multiple regions unlike a lot of the previous official DVDs.... also i would like to comment on the road trip n°4. Nice concept and i am please to see there are some good intentions in term of supplying great stuff and the pairing is spot on. Nevertheless i must say i was disappointed with the set list as these concerts contain OUTSTANDING moments which aren't captured here. So if you like the compilation type and can't resist buying everything go for it but you must know that there is MUCH more to the Winterland runs of October 78 to get.... Check deadbase and a famous review for the late Dick Latvala on the topic. Get the full run!!! Finally living in France i hope you guys at Dead Net won't deal with customers living abroad last so the parcel arrive asap... Great job on the package concept and very nice effort with the 3d video. Bravo et merci Dead Net.
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Live Dead was a compilation. And quickly flipping through my Dick's 'Dex, I found at least 8 Dick's Picks were compilations, and the first 2 (among others) were incomplete shows. I think what got so many peoples ire up about Road Trips was when the initial announcement of the new series was made, they called attention to the fact that they were compliations, instead of just slipping them out that way. I have the first three, and have enjoyed them very much. I believe the title "Rocking The Cradle" refers to the fact that Egypt is sometimes called "The Cradle of Civilization". I think putting the Egypt '78 shows out in a best-of format is the best way to handle these particular shows, because the performances were uneven, while the recording quality and history makes them very desirable. I remember seeing Jerry and Bob on "Late Night with David Letterman" back in the late 80's, and Jerry said something like "we tend to be terrible at all the really important gigs- we were awful at Woodstock". I don't remember if he mentioned the Egypt shows or not. That reminds me that one of my favorite quotes from The Boys came from that same "Late Night" appearance, which came on the crest of the "Touch of Grey" hit single. When Dave asked how they were handling their new success, Bob said "You know how, when you're eating pistachios and every now and then you come across one that's really hard to open? I don't even mess with those anymore... -Tommo
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I've previously expressed my enthusiasm for the release of the Egypt tapes. Adding the 10/78 Winterland shows as a Road Trip was a great idea. Guess I'll be buyin em both.If you are short on funds, know that the entire run of 5 complete Winterland shows can be downloaded from stash.nugs.net
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Looks, from the track listing at:http://www.deadnetstore.com/Commerce/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductGuid=0f1… like RT1.4 will include the end of set 1 and beginning of set 2 from 10/20/78, and the beginning of set 1 and almost all of set 2 (missing only From the Heart of Me) from 10/22/78. All of the Bonus Disk could also come from these 2 shows, mostly from the 20th (first 4 tunes from set 1 plus the end of set 2). Unless you believe the totally different tracklist over here: http://www.dead.net/road-trips/road-trips-vol-1-number-4 which includes a whole bunch of stuff from 10/21/78 and more or less the same from 10/22. could somebody please clarify this discrepancy??
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Thanks for the new releases. As with so many other I too would like to see complete shows but I also know that not every show that got taped, has tapes that you can listen to. The soundboards for Egypt have been in circulation for some time, but they were less than stellar in quality, (or was it just too many generations of copy) so I for one am happy to see these few items that have made it out alive. I also have at least one of the From Egypt With Love shows, but my sever addiction to the music dictates that I want that one too. So I've placed my order, (Even went for the T-Shirt) and am looking forward to my shipment. Next time, how about the 1980 run at Radio City Music Hall, all nights, all sets, all songs complete. Some of my favorite aud tapes that I would love to upgrade. "When I die bury me deep, put two speakers at my feet, pair of ear phones on my head, and always play The Grateful Dead."
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Talk about all good things in all good time! Thanks for adding in the From Egypt With Love Road Trips! ...can't wait!
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very nice surprise - good work! you guys are on quite a roll...................................
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the official answer is: >The DVD is Region 0 and is playable on all players.
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Thanks for this one - I literally just finished watching a show about Cairo and the Egyptian desert; talk about your weird coincidences!Then again, with most things GD, these sorts of "strange" events have occurred frequently with me. Such as running into an old friend at a show far from home, the breakout of a song I was listening to, etc... GREAT 3-D flash video BTW, totally cool...listening to Hamza el-Din with the Dead always gives me the chills... = 8^])
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nice
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Appreciate your views, tommo. Hope you enjoy the work all at gd did as much as I will. There is an immense amount of sound work to get these "just exactly perfect" and i can feel it in my bones. Thank you peace,pk
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... how 'bout a "listening party" for some of this stuff, either the Pyramid scheme and/or the Road Trips. Please.
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I would buy the DVD on it's own but will not pay $0.01 for another CD compilation.
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Why would I trust you with my money when you still haven't replaced the defective discs from the Winterland 73 box set or even responded to my last two queries about when the discs would be replaced?
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I've ordered the Egypt release along with the Road Trips. I like the compilation idea just fine. I also like complete runs of shows and would like to see more of these become released. I personally would rather have cd's with artwork, notes etc. I don't really care for downloads-but then I remember the lp releases as they happened. I still have or have replaced the original lps and listen to them regularly and enjoy the cover art and notes. It is tough being an anachronism, but some one has to do it. Anyway keep em coming and lets hope to get some Garcia vault. BTW, does anyone know whats up with those?
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I am very happy to see that there is an official release of a copmilation of these shows and a DVD compilation too. But I would have rather have the complete 09/16/78 show and DVD as the official release with highlights of the 15th and a song or two from the 14th as a bonus disc.
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I am surely pleased that you have finally released parts of the Egypt shows, but why don't you ever release vinyl LP's of the new material coming out. Sure I own CD's, but for pure listening enjoyment I would rather have a great 180 gram vinyl LP. So how about it, put out a limited edition vinyl set for those of us who want the best sound quality. It seems a shame that all you offer is American Beauty in your vinyl section. We want new vinyl releases, not just re-releases of the vinyl we have enjoyed for many years.
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This is gonna be interesting, but how about something from the europe tour in '72. SO much fantastic music was heard those nights...and needs to be again. Maybe a DVD a la closing of winterland for the April 17 show in Copenhagen? of course with CD accompaniment. And when are we gonna get some new Vinyl pressings from GDP of new shows or just previously released material? IT WOULD BE AWESOME to have available a VINYL ONLY series of concert releases, as full a show as allowable would be fantastic!
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I just made my post and then looked at the comments above it!!!! Too weird but somehow all so familiar...ha lets get those vinyls its in the ether now!
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Maybe I'm not the only vinyl nut around these parts.
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as has been remarked, did not these shows sort of suck? why release something that sucks?
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Looks like a terrific release. I'm in for it, along with RT4. I've had visions in my head of that old King Tut routine Steve Martin used to do since this release was announced. Jeez, I guess I'm a marketer's wet dream because I almost threw in for a t-shirt and one of those silly pyramid paperweight things too. I had to stop myself. Anyway, the complete show snobs need to chill. This isn't baseball card or stamp collecting. It's about getting the best music out to listeners. They'll never release everything in the vault anyway, so let's get over it. And back in the day of the bootleg cassette tapes, a lot of my first-set tapes collected dust while my second-set tapes got major rotation. If you're honest with yourself, you'll agree that this is true for most of you too. I didn't always listen to a complete show from beginning to end (who has time to do a lot of that?). Does that mean I'm not a 'real' deadhead? I guess so, but I won't lose any sleep over it. My only real gripe with the Dead universe is that the Jerry solo releases have disappeared. 'Pure Jerry' was great while it lasted.
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"It's about getting the best music out to all the listeners."Well I agree with that and that this is not baseball cards or stamps. But who decides what's 'the best' and what isn't? Who decides what parts of shows are worthy of release? If the listener has the entire show he or she can make THEIR OWN choices as to what's worth their time. They would have the option of listening to the entire show or a set or hitting the fwd button. Look, if people like compilations then that's fine but isn't there enough demand out there to release complete shows too? The Road Trips series wouldn't be so frustrating if every other release was a complete show. In all seriousness, is there valid reason for releasing compilations over entire shows? Are compilations better sellers statistically? Is there some empirical data that suggests compilations will lead to more merchandise sales? If there is an explanation along these lines maybe that would help some of us understand. I'll shut up now and let the Compilation Defense Society go back to making fun of me. :)
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To rdevil: As a card-carry member of the CDS (your joke is funny), I can say that I love full shows too, but the compilations are fine with me as well. They ARE releasing both. Winterland 73 ring a bell? I think to answer you question about who decides what gets released is a moot point. As much as the Dead's original ethos was to make their audience a part of what they did, at the end of the day, the music was theirs. Really. The music was created by these people and it belongs to them. They can do with it what they please. If the members of the band wanted all of these recordings to come out as full shows, it would happen. I find it amusing that people wonder if the "suits" at Rhino make all the decisions. Do people actually think there is some kind of conspiracy against full shows? Everyone knows more shows will be released. I'm sorry. I just love the music. That's where I am at with it all. There are waaaaaay bigger things in life to worry about.
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ok, I dig it. The Cradle of Civilization. yeah, that thought came to me about 10 minutes after I asked. CDS? compilation defense society. fuck all if I didn't just spit up my coffee all over the keyboard. you folks crack me up. thanks! compiled shows v. full shows? well, I'm a full show kind of guy. always have been, always will. to each his own. matter of fact, I was always sad when every second of drumz and space wasn't on the tape, and there was nothing worse than a cassette or a reel that got cut off in the middle of a song that you had to flip or change to hear the rest of it. a jamming "Deal" for example, and suddenly SILENCE! nothing worse, trying to save 'tape' rather than purity. sheeesh! do Rhino suits actually consult Bobby, Phil, Mickey, and Bill and say: "hey, we are thinking about releasing the Egypt shows, what do you think?" I'd really be interested to know the TRUTH but something tells me, the boys don't get asked or consulted. anybody from the office care to comment on that, please? I would be happy with the availability of only the Egypty DVD, too. I think that is a nice option that folks should have. Like a 10-12$ simple package release. Like the Anthem of Beauty. just, Rhino, please do not put that stupid crap hail to Rhino advertising shit on it that can not be skipped before viewing. ) -; like I said before, I'd be very happy with more DVD releases, especially more views from the vaults, which are basically complete shows. Brent era, rather than Bruce and Vince, please. pretty please with sugar on top. AND: matter of fact, what I really want is a 50,000 GB hard drive type i-pod type cigarrette pack sized contraption that plays the highest quality flac/shn (or whatever is the best) digital music, that includes EVERY SINGLE SECOND of every show, every acid test, every last tiny bit of tape of the good o'l grateful dead, EVER recorded, AND I want it to have noise reduction head phones. ( -; AND I want it by Christmas! ok, just to keep everybody happy, my dream i-pod can have a shuffle feature for the people who like compliations. hows about that? ( -; peace.
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ok, I dig it. The Cradle of Civilization. yeah, that thought came to me about 10 minutes after I asked. CDS? compilation defense society. fuck all if I didn't just spit up my coffee all over the keyboard. you folks crack me up. thanks! compiled shows v. full shows? well, I'm a full show kind of guy. always have been, always will. to each his own. matter of fact, I was always sad when every second of drumz and space wasn't on the tape, and there was nothing worse than a cassette or a reel that got cut off in the middle of a song that you had to flip or change to hear the rest of it. a jamming "Deal" for example, and suddenly SILENCE! nothing worse, trying to save 'tape' rather than purity. sheeesh! do Rhino suits actually consult Bobby, Phil, Mickey, and Bill and say: "hey, we are thinking about releasing the Egypt shows, what do you think?" I'd really be interested to know the TRUTH but something tells me, the boys don't get asked or consulted. anybody from the office care to comment on that, please? I would be happy with the availability of only the Egypty DVD, too. I think that is a nice option that folks should have. Like a 10-12$ simple package release. Like the Anthem of Beauty. just, Rhino, please do not put that stupid crap hail to Rhino advertising shit on it that can not be skipped before viewing. ) -; like I said before, I'd be very happy with more DVD releases, especially more views from the vaults, which are basically complete shows. Brent era, rather than Bruce and Vince, please. pretty please with sugar on top. AND: matter of fact, what I really want is a 50,000 GB hard drive type i-pod type cigarrette pack sized contraption that plays the highest quality flac/shn (or whatever is the best) digital music, that includes EVERY SINGLE SECOND of every show, every acid test, every last tiny bit of tape of the good o'l grateful dead, EVER recorded, AND I want it to have noise reduction head phones. ( -; AND I want it by Christmas! ok, just to keep everybody happy, my dream i-pod can have a shuffle feature for the people who like compliations. hows about that? ( -; peace.
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Sounds like CCs gone has the ultimate solution with his i-pod idea...when's the pre-order? :)All this discussion about compilations vs. full shows reminds me of a time in the early '90s when a good friend and I were talking about how we had completely different tastes in music. Another friend there asked how that could possibly be since all either one of listened to (at the time) was the Greatful Dead. But we do all have one thing in common: we love the music.
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I for one am just happy that there is apparently enough demand to allow ANY releases at all. There are numerous groups out there from days gone by who do not get any attention at all by anyone in the marketplace. I hope that these gripes about compilations do not mean that they will not find a strong market-if that happens the flow of any future releases will stop-ya need money to keep all of this going. The government ain't gonna subsidize us.
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As much as I love the dead, I also will have to pass on this, my Road Trip CD's all skip and that really screw's up the songs, why but partial shoes that do even play or re-mixes of show that skip. Sorry but Dead CD's have gone the way of Jerry. Bring back whole live shows and, maybe, but the quality of Road Trips have been A BUMMER. Why buy CD's that skip, first time that you play them? I love the dead, but lately releases are sub standard, sorry but sometimes the truth hurts, gregor Buddha: If the roots remain untouched and firm in the ground, a felled tree still puts forth new shoots. If the underlying habit of craving and aversion is not uprooted, suffering arises anew over and over ~Dhammapada XXIV verse 338
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I did not hesitate to order the Egypt 78 + Road Trips 1.4 and the shirt. The shirt is another Liquid Blue shirt which is one the best quality shirts and the images are very cool. I have ordered all the Road Trips so far. Also have ordered these in time to get the bonus discs. I have not been disappointed yet with any of the road trips and the bonus discs are great. I do hope the defective disc issue is resolved with this release. After all the recent releases with defects, Rhino should should have this resolved or at least have an effective replacement policy. Releasing defective discs at this point is counterproductive and will impact future sales by making fans withhold their purchases. No one wants to risk paying hard earned money only to get a defective disc and then not getting it replaced. Very easy for Rhino to fix this. Other than that, keep the music coming and let's support the releases.
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I really am amazed at all the hating going on regarding compilation releases and giving deadnet s**t about computer glitches that happen to all businesses every day. I own every release available from DP1 and GAMH '75 to Winterland '73. And you bet I've ordered Rocking the Cradle, Road Trips, and the shirt (a great triple deal!). I am simply grateful to have dead music continuing to be released. Let's face it, we've transferred our cassettes, downloaded what we like, and ordered what we want. Keep it coming. I can understand frustration with skipping disks although I'll add that not one of my disks has ever skipped and believe me I play 'em! Defective products should be dealt with efficiently. But this complete show nonsense is getting out of control. A number of DPs are compilations as are many bonus disks accompanying releases. Do you just throw those away? Not listen to them? Hard to imagine. Keep up all this hating and you might find yourself going a long time without a release. If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind. No one likes to put in tons of work to bring out a product just to be trashed. If you don't want to buy it, that's fine. But I sure will. I don't want deadnet or Rhino to have the opinion that we're UNGRATEFUL!!! Thanks for putting these out there guys and gals. There are a lot of us who are truly grateful and deadicated to keeping the music alive. Can't wait!!! Peace!
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I am just saying why not release the whole show if it is available in the vault? I dont imagine that the only usable full shows from the vault have already been released but I guess I could be wrong. When I started collecting Dead shows over 25 years ago I cant seem to remember anyone trading compilations so why start now? Please give us complete shows and let us decide which is worthy of a listen and what is not. Its a very simple request. I guess what sucks most about these road trips releases is that a lot of us already have them on bootlegs and it is painful to us to have the majority of the show cut out of the official release. If they would tell us something like "This is the only salvagable part of the show on the reel" then it would be much easier to understand the partial releases but they really dont tell us anything like that. Drop the Road Trips idea and give us more complete show/runs box sets. Thanks. :)
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I just can't imagine being so upset with the releases we get from dead.net. (Defects not included, that would upset me too) This is all from a band that has been gone for what 13-14 years. Most bands now a days can hardly muster a release that isn't some greatest hits repackage for their one or two songs you may have heard. And if they're from the sixties they probably didn't last past that time. I said on here before that I didn't get a chance to see the band live, "There's nothing like a Grateful Dead Show" they all say. Well who knows how long the strange trip has been going on for me, The Grateful Dead is tops among all I have heard. The first Dead bought was Dozin' at the Knick. (I'm sure some of you scoff at that selection) But I love it, disk 2 is as good as it could be for later stuff in the 90's. Little did I know I would start the process of getting as much live stuff as I could, being blown away by the early stuff, and padding my collection with the studio stuff for sure, only to get all the studio stuff just about the time they decided to release everything remastered with the bonus stuff. Bummer for me but oh well you can't have it all, only wishes. So when I get on here hoping to read some good ole memories from this show or that certain song or the excitement of getting new Dead, and get to read all these bullshit spoiled hippies crying, full shows, complete shows wahwahwah. They just released the complete Winterland, did you miss that? Well go to the store section its still available. I didn't get RT 1.1 because the bonus disk ran out, which is something they should change in trying to keep the bonus disk available for people who didn't know. But whatever most of us know its a limited time thing/preorder thing. But did get RT 1.2-1.3 and are just about all I have been listening to lately, its the Grateful Dead what more do you need. Because I'm sure the people that release this stuff are going to continue to release what they want, with maybe the help of real suggestions for a certain show or year with good stuff, which is just about every year they ever played from all I've heard, barring some maybe bad shows near the end. STOP BRINGING US DOWN WITH YOUR HATING VENOM. If you don't like the release then forget it till the next one and check it out, because if there is as much as everyone says I'm sure everyone will get a little taste of what they want, especially when you don't always have a hundred bucks to spend on a complete run, the in between releases if you give em a chance have some pretty rocking stuff on them. Check out The Music Never Stopped on RT 1.2, what a cool song that is, or the Sing Me Back Home on RT1.3 so sweet, crisp and clean sounding wow. Look back alot of the releases aren't complete shows either. Let the dead.net/Rhino people do their jobs, no band in the world has ever been as kind to its fans as The Grateful Dead so listen to the music, because it never did stop. Oh yeah can't wait to get Egypt 78 and hear the Estimated Eyes Terrapin trio looks hot!!
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what the person was hoping for and/or wants from the release. Many people had to settle for partial shows 'back the day' when we were lucky to get a piece of a classic show (that was low generation tape). Often times we were happy for what we could get, but that doesn't mean that we didn't want more of that show. So what I hear/read is passionate deadheads making their opinions known. There is nothing novel about that. This is a rowdy and rambuncious group. Always has been, and always will be. Sitting around reviewing the show afterwards and talking about how the Dead played what, what we hoped for the next night's show, pontificating on the sound, set-up, vocals, etc. etc. Deadheads are not a shy bunch. We are an opinionated bunch of zealots and frankly, I would have been surprised if there weren't some heads stating their perspective. I wish (like CC) that I could buy the DVD by itself. That doesn't mean I don't have appreciation for the package or the package deal that is available. Just that I wish I could purchase that specific part of it. Not a dig or a put down to Rhino. I am also a big fan of whole shows as well. That is just my preference to have opportunity to listen to the show how the Dead played it that night 'warts and all'. But that doesn't mean I am hating anything. Just a different wish/desire on how to experience the Dead's music. You know, some people love to be up front, pressed to the stage, some people love being a little bit further back to have more room to dance, and others want to see the show from a seat and then stand up and dance when the spirit moves. Some even prefer to watch through binocs. Hey, it is all just a matter of opinion or preference. Some prefer PigPen era, Keith era, Brent, Bruce, etc etc. I appreciate that people have their own views and leanings on various aspects of this music. We did get the Winterland '73 run. I apperciated that very much. Just didn't get any complete shows from this run. So it goes. But I don't think that people will stop expressing their opinions on this topic. That doesn't make them bad nor wrong. Hey, I love Europe '72 and listened to it over and over since it first came out. And I purchased the new 'extended version'. But I DEARLY loved listening to complete shows from that Europe run. To experience those Dark Stars in context of the rest of that evening is such a treat. And different than listening to them in a compilation. And I would purchase the complete shows when/if offered from that glorious '72 tour. But I didn't purchase 'Steppin' out" but I did buy "Rocking the Rhein. That isn't a dig to those who prefer the compliation. So I get your sentiment about this issue. And I loved the Dozin' when it came out, but gotta tell you, I appreciate getting complete shows from the run to listen too. I am not putting you down, not putting Rhino down, etc etc. Just stating an opinion, a wish, just a longing for that night's show. Just my view on this deal. Take care.
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Just for the record, I'd like to say that while I generally prefer whole shows I have no problems with compilations or incomplete shows...Europe 72 is a wonderful example of a fantastic compilation. My only complaints are with the defective discs and, much more seriously, with the lack of responsiveness when it comes to replacing those defective discs. I am, however, very pleased to say that Marye has sent me some pms and that I genuinely believe she is trying to pass the word up (or down, or sideways, or whatever) the chain to see if something can't be done, for which I publicly thank her. Best wishes to everybody (and Go Barack!)
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Egypt was known as "The Cradle of Civilization:"-------------------------------------------------------------------- The cradle of civilization is any of the possible locations for the emergence of civilization. It is usually applied to the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic (Ubaid period, Naqada culture), especially in the Fertile Crescent (viz. Lower Egypt, the Levant and Mesopotamia), but also extended to sites in Anatolia[1] and the Persian Plateau, besides other Asian cultures situated along large river valleys, notably the Indus River in India[2] and the Yellow River in China.[3] (From Wikipedia) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Obviously "Rocking The Cradle" is a play on words. And an appropriate title for this release.
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"Truckin' with the Grateful Dead to Egypt" by Robert Nichols copyright 1984 Moonbow Press San Rafael, CA I dug out my copy out and am planning to reread it in anticipation of the RTC & RT1.4 releases. It's a great account of the trip. Time to break out the hubbly bubbly and crack open a Stella! --------------------------------- I'm not Beethoven
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I've also ordered Egypt and the Road Trips CD.....I feel bad for those that have had issues with the quality of their Road Trips - I've ordered all three and have been very happy, have not had to deal with skipping issues, etc. I also like full show releases, but am confident that we will get more of those. The sound quality of what I've heard so far has been nothing short of great. All good things in all good time!