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    What's Inside:
    • 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
    • 25th Anniversary Tour Program
    • Official Band Letters
    • 6 Ticket Stubs
    • 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
    • 1 Tour Laminate
    • Official 1990 Band publicity shot
    • 6 complete shows on 18 discs
          • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
          • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
          • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
          • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
          • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
          • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

    Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
    Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
    Original art by Wes Lang
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

    Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

    And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

    In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

    Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

    The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

    And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

    Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

    Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

    Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

    With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

    So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

    If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

    -Blair Jackson

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  • rbmunkin
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    How would you answer my example in my first post about this:Do you seriously contend that Jerry isn't OBJECTIVELY a better guitarist than me? Comparing Van Gogh vs. Monet is much more difficult of course. I'm trying to make the point by using an absurd example, but a valid one. Personally I think we want to say quality is purely subjective because it's easier to say that. It's too difficult to show objective quality so we don't want to go there. But just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's not reality. This reminds me of the joke: A man is searching on the ground under a street lamp. Someone comes up and asks him if he lost something. He says yes, his keys. Did you lose them here? No, I lost them in the alley but it's too dark there. When looking for objective quality, one must look in the dark alley even though it's easier to see in the subjective lighted area.
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    that's back on topic?
    Who got screwed out of their order is back on topic? Do tell, Footbear, who got screwed out of their order? What started out as a thread that was finally mostly about the music in the box has degenerated into another bile fest. Guess some people feel better having an audience. I'm about done with these boards, myself. Talk about disenchanted and disgusted...... Sheesh.
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    March 29, 1990 on VINYL, yes please.
  • Hoopsie
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    In a vain effort to return the discussion to the excellent but somewhat inefficiently shipped box set -- I was only able to catch the boys from 85-95, so 89 and 90 stand out as the apex years, with Jerry sounding fresh and not so ragged and tired, and inspired ensemble playing. I am so glad to have this. It will be cherished for years. Wish I was able to catch 5-2-70, but I was still only 4! Geez, you people who were able to see these shows must be practically senior citizens by now! ;-) Now, if only they'd ship my replacement for the cracked Disc 3 of 3/16/90? See, I'm not bitter.
  • Tanis Fane
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    Quality _is_ subjective, no matter how you describe it. The idea of one artist being more talented than another is subjective. Is Monet better than Van Gogh? Quality is, for most people, subjective to the price at bidding that has been established by people claiming authority to declare it such. Objectively, something is "good" or "bad" because it has been granted a more desirable status in a given framework. Social capital, if you will. You place great cultural capital in Jerry's playing and thus, for you, he is the best. The value I place on his playing, though high, is not as valuable for me as it is to you. I'd pay more for someone else. (Much as I value/love/geek-out-over the Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd, VU is still, for me, minted from the most valuable coin music/art provides.) You are correct about my mis-attribution of the "bold"-ness, that was someone else calling it that. My mistake. :) But the comparison of Pigpen dying and the band continuing vs. Jerry dying and not continuing, isn't a fair one. The first, a member dies while everyone in the band is still under 30 years of age. When they're all around 50, another one dies after 30 years together. Economics and age played as much a role in that. And then, as you said and I agree, even when the "tribute" bands contained all members but Jerry, it wasn't the same. But neither was a JGB show anything like a GD concert. I'm not attempting to convince you, or anyone, to alter their opinions. You've made a great case as to JG being your favorite guitarist, and that is a valid opinion and reasoning you have. Declare one better than another when you reach a level of quality and performance between Clapton (whom I think is not as favorable as JJ Cale), Hendrix, Garcia, and let's say... Carlos Santana. Who is better? Depends on the night, the performance, the song. Ask most musicians, especially of an age to have seen a taster's choice of Great Guitarist, and Hendrix will, for good reason, be often cited as the best. I think Hendrix was a Beethoven-level musician. Making Garcia a Liszt-level guitarist, doesn't take anything away from him at all. Two entirely different styles, backgrounds, and intentions from each in what they attempted to do musically. Hendrix deliberately complicated his music as he progressed, while Garcia often spoke of enjoying simpler-constructions because it enabled the ability to freely improvise upon it. Personally, I think it's great that you are passionate about this. It's music, and musicians are people we turn to to share the most intimate aspects of our lives: when we're joyous, when we're depressed, when we're furious about blah, blah, or blah. I personally don't think of the ears of the Dead as one being better than another. Nothin' gets me goin' like a scorching rampage through The Eleven (which didn't happen after 70-71), but paring Scarlet & Fire couldn't have happened before 77. Terrapin is easily the most often played live song for me, but that's because there was only a single version of, and terribly recorded, Rosemary. Because they did what they did and continually evolved in their sound and performance, they've given us this huge palette from which we all, evidently, paint our own pictures of the past and what we want them to be for us, and some of these paintings we call masterpieces.
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    Quality is not purely subjective. No way to prove it to you in words. So I'll stop here. "And without the GD, Jerry wouldn’t be known outside of some audiophiliac music fiends." Nonsense! He was a musician extraordinare and his passion would move him toward notoriety one way or another. He didn't need the Dead, he CREATED the Dead. And he would have done something no matter who he worked with. Hunter and Garcia met completely independent of the Dead. "Jerry without the Dead mostly likely wouldn’t have had Hunter as a song-writing partner, thus none of these songs would have come about." Of course the same exact songs wouldn't have come about, but I certainly wouldn't have cared. All I would care about is hearing Jerry, no matter what he did, because he was GREAT and would have been no matter what. "Favorites are favorites for damn good reasons. But yours are no more objectively the best than mine," I never said that. I said art is not just subjective; that there is an objective component. I never said MY likes were any more objective than any one else's. "You can congratulate yourself all you want for “bold statements” (Jerry is the greatest guitarist is hardly a bold statement on Dead.net." I didn't call it "bold". Another poster did. Anyway, we can agree to disagree. At least we agree about Donna! One more thing: With all the personell changes, the Grateful Dead were great, even after losing Pigpen, and all the other keyboardist they lost, as well as when Mickey was gone. Then when Jerry was gone - poof. No good any more. They didn't continue because they couldn't. But anyone else they lost Jerry could have kept the band going. The post Jerry band called "The Dead" and then "Further"; I'm sorry but they sucked compared to the Grateful Dead. Jerry made the GD, he was the GD, and could have created a great band with any good musicians.
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    So, RBMunkin, In the spirit of analytic debate, he's a response contrary to a number of your "bold" statements. Your analyzing note-by-note and what-have-you, doesn’t mark you as any less subjective than Best Of polls by whomever. Your liking Jerry's guitar work better than anyone else's is one thing, but no matter how much note-by-note comparisons you make, it doesn’t elevate your opinion to the level of objective. “Without Jerry the phenomenon of the Grateful Dead never would have gotten past small clubs if that.” And without the GD, Jerry wouldn’t be known outside of some audiophiliac music fiends. Considering they all talked about how essential each one of them was to the whole, and based their entire musical philosophy around that, you’re deconstructing the Dead is a great theoretic exercise, but one that misunderstands the overall point of the collective being more important aurally than the individual components. “Robert Hunter was a great poet. He's my second favorite Dead.” Absolutely a great poet. Also one who likely would have never written with Jerry without the GD. Hunter knew Kesey from the Menlo Park research. Kesey knew the Dead through Owsley. The Dead played through the Acid Tests. Without that connection, probably no song-writing team of Hunter/Garcia. “Phil was a great musician in many ways but never would have gotten so popular without Jerry.” Maybe. Is Brian Eno “popular”? Is John Cale? Robert Fripp? Phil would have likely progressed along those experimental lines without the GD. “Bob, meh. Very good rhythm guitarist, taught largely by Jerry. Vocals, song writing, and personality - not my cup of tea. He was always jealous of Jerry being the front man. He wanted to be the front man but just plain old didn't have the talent or personality.” Did he now? Good to know. I never thought he was a great guitar player, nor a great song writer, but he did pen the music of Sugar Mag, Looks Like Rain, and belt out a mean Minglewood. GD wouldn’t have been without this finger on the hand. “Drummers - very good but the Dead could have gone on with different ones.” And the sound of “rolling thunder” wouldn’t be. Thus, no Dead as we know it. No Scarlet>Fire, no PITB. “Keyboards - Pigpen was the only GREAT one.” 
Not so. But you can believe that all you wish. Pigpen had charisma and was a “stone jack baller and his heart was true” but he couldn’t play piano very well. He blew a mean nasty dirty mouth harp, but his musical ability didn’t span a great spectrum. Keith was quite proficient on piano but limited on organ and the encroaching diversity and array of keyboards. Any discussion of Brent is for another time. “Donna - OMG why was she ever in the Dead?! Just horrible. Sounded like a bag full of cats being hit with a bat. Okay on a couple of studio albums but ruined many a live concert recording.” I agree, but then there a couple of Eyes of the World and Sugar Mag she doesn’t sound bad on. I usually skip tunes if she gets gonna too much. Jerry without the Dead mostly likely wouldn’t have had Hunter as a song-writing partner, thus none of these songs would have come about. Talented as he was, he would likely have been a bit like Ry Cooder, Al Di Meola, and such ilk. Infinitely talented and diverse, but without a band, they go through the ages being treasured by a few, liked by some more, and unknown to most. As for “Hendrix to me was a bit one-sided. The overall sound always sounded a bit the same. Absolutely amazing but limited IMHO” … I think your lack of analyses is demonstrated lacking here. Y’know, cuz 1983 sounds sooooo much like Purple Haze. And Jimi with a 12-string acoustic is the same one-sided sound as when slaughtered ear drums at Monterey with the opening riff of Killing Floor. Favorites are favorites for damn good reasons. But yours are no more objectively the best than mine, VH-1s, or Rolling Stones polls from readers who can’t remember back any further than last summer’s hot thing. You can congratulate yourself all you want for “bold statements” (Jerry is the greatest guitarist is hardly a bold statement on Dead.net. And your argument lacks anything beyond your talk of how awesome you feel when you listen to him play. He’s great. But talk of the “best” is beyond the faculties at hand. Or… ehem… ear. P.S. If anyone is interested in might-have-beens with music, check out a novel called Glimpses by Lewis Shiner. A guy puts on his headphones and hears records by his favorite bands that never were: a Doors album post-LA Woman, Beach Boys beyond Brian Wilson's mental collapse, another Beatles record... that kind of thing.
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    Also, if you know they are going to sell out so fast make more!
    I don't have much money at all in this point in my life and it really stinks I can't take advantage of items like this. But all the T shirts are sold out and all the box sets. Is it fans or people who are going to sell them on eBay?
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    Also where's 3-29-90!!
    Isn't that the Bradford Marcalis show? Did I butcher his last names spelling . The eyes of the works from that 3-29 is so sick, but I think it's on Dozin at the Nick
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What's Inside:
• 60 page hardcover Smyth-Sewn book featuring essays by Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, and Blair Jackson and photos by Jim Anderson & Mike Laurentis
• 25th Anniversary Tour Program
• Official Band Letters
• 6 Ticket Stubs
• 6 Cloth Sticker Backstage Passes
• 1 Tour Laminate
• Official 1990 Band publicity shot
• 6 complete shows on 18 discs
      • 3/16/90 Capital Center, Landover, MD
      • 3/19/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      • 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, ON, Canada
      • 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      • 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      • 4/2/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA

Box Dimensions: 12-1/8" x 3-1/8" x 12-1/8"
Recorded and Mixed Live by John Cutler
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD
Original art by Wes Lang
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Introducing The Next Box: Spring 1990!

And now for something a little different. This year's box set - Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 - offers six complete shows from the epic spring '90 tour, one concert from each city the band played, personally selected by Dead vaultmeister and archival release producer David Lemieux. The sizzling six are: 3/16/90 Capital Centre (Landover , MD), 3/19/90 Hartford Civic Center, 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum (Hamilton, Ontario), 3/26/90 Knickerbocker Arena (Albany, NY), 3/30/90 Nassau Coliseum (Uniondale, NY) and 4/2/90 The Omni (Atlanta, GA).

In his "Producer's Note" in the beautiful book that is part of the box, Lemieux, who attended the first 10 shows on the tour, states, "To my ears this was the last tour that was consistently great, where every show is excellent, not a dud in the bunch." And Grateful Dead historian Dennis McNally's comprehensive and informative insider's essay in the box is titled "The Last Great Dead Tour." These guys know what they're talking about.

Basically, the band had been on an upward trajectory since Garcia's return to the road in the spring of '87, following his near-death the previous summer. Of course, 1987 was a trip in itself, what with the unexpected mega-success of In the Dark and their first hit single, "Touch of Grey." But the momentum just kept building with each subsequent tour, as Garcia got back up to full speed (and then some!) and the group as a whole was as unified as they had ever been since Brent joined the band in the spring of '79. New original tunes were popping up and the old favorites were imbued with a freshness and spirit that was so uplifting and inspiring. The band was having fun again, and it was downright infectious.

The group's fall 1989 shows-as documented two years ago on the Formerly the Warlocks box (two shows from Hampton, VA, 10/8-9/89) and on the 2001 release Nightfall of Diamonds (a single night in NJ, 10/16/89)- kicked the energy level up another couple of notches, as the band reintroduced such loved classics as "Help on the Way" > "Slipknot!," "Attics of My Life," "Death Don't Have No Mercy" and "Dark Star."

And when the band hit the road in mid-March 1990, they had a bunch of other cool tunes to lay on their unsuspecting crowds, including the return of "Loose Lucy" (last played in 1974; it's not on this box), Brent's "Easy to Love You" (missing since 1980), a rollicking cover of the Rolling Stones' "The Last Time," The Band's "The Weight" (with all four singers taking a verse each) and a lyrically retooled "Black-Throated Wind" (absent since 1974), which elicited huge cheers every time it was played.

Over these six shows, most of the cornerstones of the Dead's repertoire from the era appear-splendid versions of "Scarlet Begonias" > "Fire on the Mountain," "China Cat Sunflower" > "I Know You Rider," "Playing in the Band," "Uncle John's Band," "Eyes of the World," "Estimated Prophet," "Truckin'," "Sugar Magnolia," "The Other One," "Terrapin," "Stella Blue," "Feel Like a Stranger," "Bird Song," "Let It Grow," "China Doll," "Box of Rain," "Morning Dew"; you name it. From the fall '89 breakouts come "Help-Slip-Frank," "Attics of My Life" and "Death Don't Have No Mercy." Among the still newish tunes are "Picasso Moon," "Blow Away," "Foolish Heart," "Just a Little Light," "Victim or the Crime," "Standing on the Moon," "We Can Run" and a couple that would get their final plays from the Grateful Dead on this tour-"Built to Last" and "Believe It or Not." There are stirring renditions of "Dear Mr. Fantasy" and "Black Muddy River," rockin' takes on "Gimme Some Lovin'" and "Iko Iko" and the only version of the full "Hey Jude" the band attempted in the modern era. And the "Rhythm Devils" and "Space" jams at the heart of each second set are as noisy-beautiful-scary-funny-intense-mysterious-wild as you'd expect/hope for.

Of course, we understand that some of you may have other favorite shows from this tour you wish were included on this box. Really, you can't go wrong with any of them. But at 18 discs, this is still the second largest Grateful Dead box (after Europe '72: The Complete Recordings) that's been released, and the non-inclusion of any other shows from the tour definitely does not preclude their future release! But this seemed like a more manageable way to go, while still giving a sense of the tour's amazing depth and breadth.

Besides the discs themselves, Grateful Dead: Spring 1990 has much to offer, including: a gorgeous 60-page hardcover book containing copious color photos by Jim Anderson and Michael Laurentus, unique artwork by Brooklyn-based fine artist Wes Lang, fascinating business letters and communications related to the tour, a detailed historical essay by Dennis McNally, a Producer's Note by David Lemieux and individual show descriptions by Blair Jackson; a reproduction of the Dead's 1990 tour program (printed and sold later in '90, for the fall and Europe '90 tours); tickets and backstage passes of all six shows; a band publicity photo from 1990 by Ken Friedman; Dennis McNally's tour laminate; and reproductions of the colored 8x10 sheets GDTS sent out with hotel, food and other information for each city on the tour.

With recordings made by longtime Grateful Dead recordist and producer John Cutler, mastered by Jeffrey Norman in HDCD, you just know it's gonna sound great-and it does!

So, that's the skinny this time 'round. This box is limited to just 9,000 numbered copies - please note, this is the only time these shows will ever be officially available on CD. There will not be an All Music Edition and single shows will not be available physically. Due to ship out August 31st, we anticipate that this extraordinary set will sell-out, so order your copy today!

If you're looking for more of a bite-sized taste of the '90s, Spring 1990: So Glad You Made It, a 2-CD set featuring a handful of favorites, will be in stores on September 18th.

-Blair Jackson

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Finally received my Pick 3. Ahhh....Although no '90 yet and I'm concerned that I never got the follow up email clarifying that it was sent international as opposed to USP Ground as other people have. As far as I am still aware, overseas incorporates the ocean and not the ground/sand underneath (snide;sorry) Regarding Dave's latest pick: Of course, now the first thing I do is check the discs and the music for defects. Ouch. Just wondering if anybody could tell me if the slight click/skip/glitch(?) at about 4:20 on 'Bertha' from the transition from Jerry's solo to the chorus is in the original tape and hence everyone's copy or just mine? Thanks in advance, Deadnoggins.
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Not received mine yet but others in the UK have started receiving theirs. They are being delivered by Parcel Force via Deutsche Post's international distribution centre in Niederaula, Germany. Signature required upon delivery but no customs charges. For information, Deutsche Post are owners of DHL so it would seem that the shipping method was DHL Global > Deutsche Post (Germany) > Local mail services.
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Yes, that "slight click" at 4:19 is on everybody's copy. On another topic: Many people have reported that they have been promised replacement copies for various single-disc problems in their copies of Spring 1990... Has anyone actually received a replacement disc yet? Please pipe up here when/if you get your problem solved -- Especially if you bothered to complain publicly, it's just the decent thing to do to publicly say "they made it right."
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Hey rrot - I recieved two Copps set one discs, and no set one for Hartford. I emailed customer service, they replied right away that they would mail a replacement. About 10 days later I emailed them again, and they emailed back almost immediately saying the replacement shipped on 9/5. I haven't recieved it yet, will post so others know what to expect. In all fairness to dead.net, this is the first problem I've had since I began ordering from them in 1998. Well that, and I still haven't recieved Dave's 3. I still haven't listened to the box (except Crap Centre disc 2 - I was there!) because I want to hear it all the way through, you guys are making me fiend.
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... safely in Leeds (UK) today. Looks beautiful - roll on Christmas when I can listen.
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Ahhh...The good ol' negotiations with the other half, eh? I can empathize. It ain't easy for us music freaks to juggle finances/family and our obsessive need to devour the eternally discovered music we simply MUST buy!The Torture Never Stops. (poor us)
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I've listened to 3/16-22/90 and cannot find Jerry in the mix. He was well then - minus his diabetes, yes? Where did you put his vocals? Seriously: you put his voice primarily on the left channel but I find he is buried in the great music you created. David, I'm certain a whole host of folks have told you this! How could you NOT notice? To wit, Foolish Heart on 3/19/90! Where the hell is he? I have to admit, I haven't listened to the rest of the box. I am shocked. I am disgusted by a technology that can produce great concerts the way I always dreamed of but would leave Jerry buried. The surviving members and whatever corporate assistants they've arranged want to hit the "next generation" of kids who haven't heard of the band, and it's true, that age group tends to have the most disposable cash. If you really have 1500 more concerts that will ultimately get mixed down like this for more and more money, count me out. For the crazy price of keeping my seat on this bus for this kind of music, I'm on the last step out.
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I received my box the day before my fiance and I left for a long drive to Chicago. I quickly ripped all the CDs at 320, put them on my iPod, and couldn't wait to listen to Copps on the drive. I found that I couldn't hear Jerry hardly at all without increasing the volume to uncomfortable levels. Being that I wasn't driving alone, this wasn't possible since I had to balance volume for reasonable listening and conversation. Still, it seems the only way to hear Jerry is with headphones.
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Hi Rogo, I'm also in Leeds, UK and I'm still waiting for mine to turn up (along with the Dave Picks 3). Who delivered yours ? was it Parcelforce ?I've just had another wasted phone call to Dead.net and the girl said it was UPS Worldwide saver (but it might also be DHL !) .... basically been told to wait another week. Tony
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An undertaking that does not know how it has sent goods. At one moment states that they have been sent by UPS and gives a tracking number and then, oops, no we really sent them by another means. If deadnet does not even know how the goods have been sent, it must leave a doubt that they have been sent. deadnet told me to wait 12 days, then 15 days and now ignore me. Thank heavens that there is always section 75 of the Consumer Protection Act, which for UK residents also covers purchases made abroad and over the Internet.
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An undertaking that does not know how it has sent goods. At one moment states that they have been sent by UPS and gives a tracking number and then, oops, no we really sent them by another means. If deadnet does not even know how the goods have been sent, it must leave a doubt that they have been sent. deadnet told me to wait 12 days, then 15 days and now ignore me. Thank heavens that there is always section 75 of the Consumer Protection Act, which for UK residents also covers purchases made abroad and over the Internet.
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I am still waiting for my box set (as well as for DaP 3), have been given a case number (for DaP3), been told to wait (for Spring 90), nothing happens, no further response.Anybody else from Germany with the same problem? What a shame to wait such a long time, finally we get a release of a box set from the nineties and it seems to get lost during shipping....
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"Foolish Heart on 3/19/90! Where the hell is he?" Yeah, I can't hear him there either..........because I don't have that disk! Still waiting for a replacement and wondering if I'll get one at all. I don't trust their canned emails saying it's being sent. They keep saying that.
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...are the PTB giving attention to the upkeep of the website? There are myriad bugs, missing features and overall problems that are making the 'upgrade' more of a 'retrograde'. Actually, I believe the problems began sometime last year with the disappearance of most of the Taper's Section archive, September was it? *screaming into an empty cavern* What is going on? Is this some kind of joke or what? Please fix the clunky website! Now back to regularly scheduled programming...
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To the guys plugging JGB below: Sporadically great music, but JG's junkie partner leaves a bad taste in many mouths.
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It arrived by Parcelforce and was left with a neighbour. It had previously travelled by Businesspaket through Deutscher Post.Hope you get yours soon. No customs charges.
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Michaaaaaa, "Lost during shipping"... I think that the reasonable inference is, not sent and that deadnet has no idea what it has sent and to whom. (Re my previous post - should have read Consumer Credit Act, which in an absence of a proper response, I will invoking at the end of next week. Then deadnet can ignore my bank rather than me.)
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#8131 has arrived in France, with no additional customs charges! It looks wonderful and all the discs are correct. Many others are now appearing in the UK I hear, also without the customs charges. So the shipping arrangements do seem to be working, it appears they have shipped them in bulk to Germany and redistributed them from there. So well done Rhino/Deadnet for starting to get it right, all we need now is the addition of tracking capability. I really hope that everyone else gets theirs soon. Many of us who reported non receipt of DaP3 have now received a futher notification of the reissue of this for us. So if you are still missing that, get in touch with Dr Rhino quickly so they know how many to press. Now down to listening to those '90 shows
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Hey star dark before you throw stones were not jerry and brent junkies as well as many great musicians. not that brent is
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Thanks for the info ..... hopefully it'll come this week. Tony
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What's this crap? http://musictoday.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/92/p/4 What a pain in the neck! What's the point of this exactly? How does this "protect" the CD contents? This may change my mind on buying them. Ridiculous number of steps and bother to get them onto iTunes. And I don't get the point. Is the point simply that they don't want you copying the songs so they make it difficult to do so? Then why would they give you instructions? Yeah, I just read it again. Major pain. I'm not buying this crap if they are making it that difficult to transfer the CD onto iTunes. They lost a sale to me and I hope others will tell them so also. I wrote to them.
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"... as of 2005!" What's your point? If it's true, it sucks! I've never bought a CD like that before. Dead.net doesn't do that. So are all the Jerry CD's going to have that crap?
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I really do not want to defend the decision to NOT mix this box from the multi-tracks. But don't blame John Cutler for the dearth of Jerry's vocal on "Foolish Heart" (3/19). Listen carefully and you will hear that JG was mumbling like crazy. The words were barely escaping his mouth and although this could have been made louder on a more carefully-mixed song, do you really want to hear louder mumbling? I don't. This is why they make a "skip" button on CD players. It's just not a good performance.
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Does it say somewhere on the release info that the new Jerry release will be DRM? I didn't see anything that indicated that the new cd uses that technology. Is it noted on another page?I remember around the time of this article in 2005, Sony was having some pissing contest with Apple because Apple was selling more music than Sony. I've never ran into this technology personally as collect mostly jazz pressed in small runs. Hardly a highly pirated market. I don't think it's going to help sales though if it were the case. Can you point me towards where the site is stating this is how they are releasing the New Jerry titles? I'm just not finding it. Thanks
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Today, we are pleased to announce the arrival of the SPRING !990 BOX SET It arrived on time at the precise location requested with no additional additions or subtractions, multiplications or divisions (We're all together on this) As the process unfolded there were squeals of joy from the new arrival. Wooo Sparkle-y ! Now all that needs is to transfer the little discs of joy to a more secure environment in which they may relax and recharge for the next performance. Now that that is done. Hey, Dave Isn't it time for a video chat ? Some new something about a Pick you got to Pick about a Pickin' and Grinnin' Good time. But if the heat is too much just slip into that green wetsuit and shot under water. Then we'll see what's goin' down. To the time of life when the time of life is NOW
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I think the reference is to John Kahn (RIP) , who is believed by some for being responsible for leading Jerry astray during their collaborations. I reckon JG was probably capable of making his own choices, however painful they might have been.
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Yep. I was kinda pissed at Jerry for his stupidity that killed him. Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy, he contributed a great deal to my life, and he was the greatest musician I've ever listened to. But even though he had diabetes he didn't exercise at all, lived on the couch, ate potato chips, and shot up H. Suicidal or what? Jerry was capable of making his own decisions and the biggest bad one he made was to not break up the Dead by the end of the '70's. I'm convinced he would have lived if the GD broke up back then. From all the articles and interviews I've read and heard, he wanted to do a lot more off shoot smaller venue stuff but he was too nice of a guy and saw that the GD organization grew into a behemoth that needed his life blood to survive. If he quit, there would have been a lot of people out of work. He was supporting a huge weight on his shoulders and got relief from it from drugs. Jerry would be alive today if the GD went away in the '70's and he just did his off-shoot smaller stuff, and I'd be very very happy with that.
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Man I hope not, that would be a really foolish way to kick off a new Jerry collection. I really hope this is just rumors. I remember Trey Anastasio put out a CD with DRM that was produced by SONY, he really got slammed. Go check the reviews on Amazon, I think it was "Shine." A lot of Ipods would not load the music. Music companies know folks will share, they also know that any JGB stuff put out will sale well. Trying to muzzle it would be really stupid, other readers here are right. A huge backlash would come along with it. Phil
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I wrote to them but haven't heard back. I suspect it's an article on their web site for some dumb reason but does not apply to the new Jerry music. If it doesn't apply, they should remove the article.
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Yes Im still waiting for the box. I see other people in europe have also been waiting, and it appears it may be slower to take delivery as there is no customs charge. I've had a regular rattle on about the extra charges for the first Daves Picks, so it would be great if thats to be no longer the case. However, it may be the ultimate irony that by not paying the charge it means the delivery gets lost. Hypnocracy lives on it seems! Anyway, I hope it does get through. Without a Net started it all for me and anything from 89-90 is welcome.
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I am enjoying this box set very much! Brings back a lot of memories as 3/19/90 was my first Dead show and its great having it on CD finally! I remember everything Dave talked about in the book as far as the weather(Bitter New England COLD!!), the ticket sales , tailgating in boring Hartford etc.... After listening to all the shows I'm glad I bought this! I think the Cap Center and the Knick(been there too) are my favorites! I also realized I didn't have the Winterland 77 box set, so I ordered that too! Let me ask, my copy came with a Bonus Disc, did they all come with that? Anyway, check out Scott McDougall's art website, Its awesome! There's a great painting of Pigpen which I hope will be the cover of DP 4! We need some more 60's Dead!! Take care folks and keep on Rockin'!!!!!
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Where is Jerry???????? I love Brent and the drummers but for god sakes Cutler........WTF.
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Has anyone received any replacement discs for this set yet. I am missing disc 2 from 4/2. Called right after i opened the set and was told 10 days called back 2 weeks late told its on its way another week later still no discs.
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From wikipedia: In 2005, Sony BMG introduced new DRM technology which installed DRM software on users' computers without clearly notifying the user or requiring confirmation. Among other things, the installed software included a rootkit, which created a severe security vulnerability others could exploit. When the nature of the DRM involved was made public much later, Sony BMG initially minimized the significance of the vulnerabilities its software had created, but was eventually compelled to recall millions of CDs, and released several attempts to patch the surreptitiously included software to at least remove the rootkit. Several class action lawsuits were filed, which were ultimately settled by agreements to provide affected consumers with a cash payout or album downloads free of DRM.[47] Sony BMG's DRM software actually had only a limited ability to prevent copying, as it affected only playback on Windows computers, not on other equipment. Even on the Windows platform, users regularly bypassed the restrictions. And, while the Sony BMG DRM technology created fundamental vulnerabilities in customers' computers, parts of it could be trivially bypassed by holding down the "shift" key while inserting the CD, or by disabling the autorun feature. In addition, audio tracks could simply be played and re-recorded, thus completely bypassing all of the DRM (this is known as the analog hole). Sony BMG's first two attempts at releasing a patch which would remove the DRM software from users' computers failed. In January 2007, EMI stopped publishing audio CDs with DRM, stating that "the costs of DRM do not measure up to the results."[48] Following EMI, Sony BMG was the last publisher to abolish DRM completely, and audio CDs containing DRM are no longer released by the four record labels.[49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Audio_CDs http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-01-04/sony-bmg-plans-to-drop-d…
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Yes both Winterland box sets still have a bonus disc included in them. At least the two that I ordered years after the release date did. It was kind of a nice surprise to see them in there!
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Yes both Winterland box sets still have a bonus disc included in them. At least the two that I ordered years after the release date did. It was kind of a nice surprise to see them in there!
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I wonder if something was adjusted mid-production(?!?) JG's guitar is plenty loud (though not overly so) on my set.
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Absolutely - he was a grown man, after all. But that doesn't mean we must embrace the choices, behavior, etc. of his long list of sycophants, hangers-on, and enablers(!) And no, the irony is not lost on me - I understand the role fandom played in his protracted demise.
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Kindly check your replacement discs to see if they are actually what you needed.Mine arrived today, except the wrong disc was sent. Ugh......
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My replacement disc was waiting for me when I got home from work.....Same thing right show wrong disc now have 3 disc 3 from 4/2/1990 no disc 2
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Yes, in fact I did receive the correct replacement disc 3 of 3/16/90 today,and in fact do continue to enjoy the tunes. Thanks dead.net, rhino, and Keep'em Comin'!
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I just received the replacement of disc 3 of 3/22/90 Copps Coliseum. I also got the email today that the disc had shipped, so I kind of expected it would arrive today. Checked the disc with EAC and it tested fine. When I saw that wrong discs were sent out I did a quick listen to make sure the music matched the label. Everything seems fine on my end at this point, although I'll have to listen to it tomorrow.Too bad some of you got the wrong replacements. Bummer, after the long wait. Hope it works out for you guys.
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This may be nitpicking but as far as Jerry's vices are concerned I'm pretty sure "shooting" H was not one of them. Maybe I'm looking back at out-dated material but from what I read he didn't like needles and rather smoked the shit (correct me if I'm wrong, anyone). AND (this really does fall into the nitpicking category) it wasn't potato chips so much as the Hagendasz ice cream, at least from what I've read. Does anyone out there think that his diet played as big a role in his death as his heroin habit?
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I am now told that a "replacement" box will be sent. As the website indicates that a final delivery of the product is awaited, who knows when this will be? If something does eventually come it will quite possibly be when I am out of the country; sorry I cannot arrange my life around the failures of deadnet. It is difficult to credit the incompetence of the system. One person in Leeds gets a delivery, another person does not. In my case, there appears to be a fear of crossing the border into Wales. My long experience of both Parcelforce and Deutsche Post tells me that the failure has nothing to do with them but whatever half arsed system deadnet chose to use.
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Neither have arrived in New Brighton (Wirral) in the U.K. as of yet despite having received despatch confirmations for both weeks ago. I e-mailed Customer Support who advised me to give the box set until 23rd September. The matter of the DP Volume 3 is more cloudy....i was told that hundreds of copies went missing in the mail and the item is being re-pressed...a copy will be despatched mid-October ???. Plainly and simply...there is no logical reason why there should be such a foul-up sending parcels from country to country. I just feel highly embarassed for Rhino and GDM....they just look like a right old laughing stock !. Waiting, Ian.
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