As I Was Saying in the Chat Room

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April 8, 2008 - 1:15pm

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marye

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...
Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

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February 2, 2010 - 9:45pm

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mona

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hey

vvhat johnman said :)
February 2, 2010 - 4:39pm

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JackstrawfromC…

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My experience

With chat rooms and not necessarily at dead.net is that the people who are shady i.e. pose threats are in fact juveniles in the 10-12 year old range. It doesn't mean there isn't a more sinister plot going on too but the majority are kids being stupid. After watching what they write for awhile it is painfully obvious what their age is.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
February 2, 2010 - 3:58pm

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marye

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yeah

the logging thing is available to one and all. But the fact that people are getting into the chatroom without logging onto Dead.net is a problem.
February 1, 2010 - 9:37pm

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cosmicbadger

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some thoughts

Thank you Marye. I am sure everyone appreciates deadnet hosting the Chatroom and as Swan has mentioned, it is not an issue of permanent moderation: in general conflicts have been sorted out pretty quick there. But the lack of security makes it far too easy for those few people with bad intentions to exploit and abuse others. In fact have now discovered just how easy it is to ‘break into’ the chatroom from outside. My understanding is that Gagalive is a free internet Chatroom service that has been embedded in deadnet and that it could be hard for Deadnet to impose its own additional security on it. But I am not an expert on these things. It has also dawned on me that as long as you are logged into the CR you can scroll back through (and therefore copy/paste) all the chat from the moment you logged in. So if you stay anonymously logged on for hours or days from the outside (like some people appear to do) you may be able just to copy everything that has gone on. I was going to do an experiment to test this, but eavesdropping even for a few moments makes me feel really bad, so I won’t. If the chat record has a much shorter life (a few minutes) it might make systematic logging much more hassle. Hope this helps CB
February 1, 2010 - 5:00pm

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Anonymous (not verified)

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may i suggest ideas about chatroom's safety

for sure i want this chat room to keep going , and want topics to be discussed without " politically correct " restrains about opinions . The real urgency , methinks, is about safety settings in 3 easy steps ; 1) anyone wanting access to chatroom must be fist logged in at dead.net and 2) must first be a registered member with dead.net (with a valid e-mail) , and 3) gagalive/deadnet must install specific settings to not allow access to chatplace by bypassing login and registration at deadnet . These can be practical answers for safety , and to complete this format , a once prior agreement that anyone using chatroom is responsable to never send bugs and viruses at users of dead.net , nonrespect of that clause leading to definite expulsion from dead.net .
February 1, 2010 - 1:53pm

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marye

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guys

I'm reporting this to see if there's anything we can do. I don't want to shut the chat room down, for example, so better to figure out something more reasonable. As many have noted, no, threatening people is not okay, nor is misrepresenting yourself as a Rhino employee (or anyone else) to do so.
January 31, 2010 - 8:34pm

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johnman

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it's with sadness

that i read these posts. i have had good and bad experiences in our chatroom, recently very good things have come my way FROM the chatroom, tickets and a hotel room to be exact, so i know there are still good, loving kind folks there. we don't always hafta agree on certain subjects or topics, and there are some that i intentionally avoid discussing in there because i know we don't all have the same point of view. the one thing we DO share is love for the music. other than prayer, the music has been the one constant in my life that i can turn to when i just can't take it anymore. please, any of you that are thinking about leaving us, please, please reconsider. if we keep enough kind folk in there, and commit to not dragging others down with our personal problems (and yes, i am one of those that is guilty of doing this, not intentionally but the chat is my refuge) mebbe we can outweigh the people who don't love the site as much as we do......badger, i'm gonna miss your kind thoughts and words, hopefully you will still use the forums? i love all of you more than you know....you are my FAMILY!!!
January 30, 2010 - 9:55am

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DancingSingingGirl

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Cosmic Badger KA Swan

Using a photo or scripts from the chatroom to harm others is an awful practice/ game and should not be allowed. I was told that recently, things that I had said, in " Play " an 'Imaginative spacey conversation we were having,' was re-posted elsewhere with some important content changed, someone had changed my words, to cause a very hurtful situation ! I know that this has happened to thers as well. I agree it is slander. We love the chatroom and mostly we love sharing The Grateful Deads Music in there... It should not be a tool, used to harm and manipulate others ! play on
January 30, 2010 - 8:47am

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stuman

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November 21, 2007

again reasons I DO NOT use chatroom

Badger , swan , frankly you said it all . lets get rid of gagalive and make it a Dead.net MEBERS ONLY thing . I for one do not want to talk to folks who are mean and or just not like minded as we all are . I would be more then happy to come back to the chatroom .
January 30, 2010 - 8:07am

#290

cosmicbadger

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I am sorry TL and Mona and

I am sorry TL and Mona and Swan and everyone else, but I am not going near that place again until I can be more confident that i) it is reasonably secure ii) people who use it are identifiable and accountable iii) it is not being taken over by hackers iv) our conversations are not being recorded and manipulated and v) my computer is not vulnerable to attack (the consequences would be catastrophic for me) Some or all of the the claims and threats that have been made may very well be utter bullshit. I don’t know enough about computers to know, and I am not sure how these concerns can be addressed by 'toughing it out' from inside the chatroom. Still, there must be other ways to fix this. By hosting the chatroom for the registered members of the site, Deadnet must have some responsibility for its security. Especially since the main protagonist has even claimed that he is an ‘insider’ who works for Rhino!!

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

thanks for fixing

I kept getting a message about scripts being wrong, and there was I thinking that the chat-room was spontaneous. Is there something we should know?

no...

just more software silliness. Please carry on...

excuse my broken english and.....

After being booted out of the chat about 10 times just because, by people who know how to use the open code. i was insulted just like so many times before in this thing called grateful dead chat. This time by three tenageers, i think, who did beguin the conversation talkin about his drunk mother while making jokes about my name. Even, i think, they used the open code, to suit the chat at their convenience. I really cant believe why this can happen, dont talkin about the insults (the daily planet), i mean why you, the dead.net people let this things to happen. And of course, im ready to get more bullshit, just for this. Shame on me for being part of this and shame on you for let this things happen.

Hey bakalot

I was booted out too lots of times for misbehavin and I didn't do anything......anyway most of us here are really grate people :) just remember mean people suck, ignore them... Peace, Gigi *~****~* Have a Grate Day*~*****~*

Yes,Ignore them!

What Gigi said! A really grate and special place overall! Don't let a few sharp rocks stop you from walking on the beach!! peace,pk

Current chat instability

First off, I have no official relationship with this site other than as Just Another User. However, I am a software developer by trade and have offered this site's developers constructive feedback where I can, and where and when appropriate I do hear back from them as well. From that, I do know that there are efforts currently underway to improve the general stability and user experience on the site. And like most periods of transition, there are occasional hiccups. I'm relatively certain that the current chat issues are being caused by that, rather than by some user compromising the security of their their server platform. Understanding the code that they are using and being able to affect the code that they are using are two very different things. I'm sure they will get the current chat issues sorted forthwith. Just like I'm sure, bakalot, that you now realize that the usage of derogatory and insulting racial epithets on this site is not likely to be viewed as appropriate by the community here. Personally, I value the diversity of opinions and perspectives found on this site. I don't agree with all of them, and I'm also equally certain that there are others here who've seen more than enough from Mr. Pid as well. And that's fine, that's the way the wold works. We don't necessarily all need to like each other, but we should try to respect each other. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Mr. Pid

Fine job Stu. Absolutely beautiful, elegant, and thorough.

instability

Once i just used the wrong word. I exclaimed something like, 'ohh what a song wrote that ******'. I dont see why, my mistake. My Fault. Chat instability, no shop instability, i was thinking about to make my first purchase here, and ..... im sure there is no instability in the shop....And know i head for the beach ignoring mean people to enjoy this brand new day under the sun. All good things in all good time.

hey bakalot

Sorry for the bad experience. As people have said, we're not like that here. Nicely said, Mr. P. Folks, are we having technical difficulties, or were there some problem people in the chat room?

Chatroom is crazy

everyone is coming in and out in and out...very strange place to be tonight.......the ghosts are at it again beware........oooooooooooooooo

I'll tell Jonathan

things are strange again. Thanks!

the spirts abound

hey now, the chat room is gone, gone , gone!!hmmm? o well, HAPPY BIRTHDAY JERRY!!!

Chatroom is working

fine right now!! Just had a chat!!

how bout now?

too cool , i see the wheel has revolved again, new stuff and on Jerry's birthday!! did you plan it this way, jonathan and marye? can't wait too chat again, peace....what! oh yeah... HAPPY BIRTHDAY JER!!!

so the chatroom's back?

cool. I don't know whether the server transition was PLANNED for Jerry's birthday, but clearly it was an auspicious day to do it.

I spoke too soon

chatroom is still offline due to the server move, but it'll be back!

gonna get stranger

And I can't stop wonderingJust what you got Get the feeling I'm gonna find out real soon.... but for now you are temporary offline : ( and it's seems as i'm having to log in twice, the second time i actually have to type in! then if i do check on the chat and go back to recent posts via the side option on site page i'm no longer logged and have to go back using the back button on safari or firefox. Well you know it's gonna get stranger So let's get on with the show

i have the strange feeling..

(if i can read...) that the chat is off-line at least a week.there might be some doors who not everybody knows!!!!!!!!!!but regulary its offline pretty long:-( Frankly

is this thing on?

oh look, this works, even if the chat don't! did i miss the email saying the server was going to move and the site would be screwed up for a while? oh well, wheel keeps turning...now the question is do we know when we are hoping to be operational again(realisticly)??peacenlove2all tc

hi 73

I haven't heard a status report for a while but I assure you folks are working on it seriously. Sorry for all the trouble.

OK, intrepid travelers...

Jonathan, who is always looking out for us, has found some alternative chatroom software that he thinks might work a bit better. So, in that fine dead.net spirit, we need brave souls to to check it out and see how well it works in real life. If this sounds like you, head over to http://www.dead.net/testchat and chat on!

Won't work for me :(

I logged in and was gratefulmom dupe... hehe, then I logged out and bac in and I was a guest, now I can't get in it says chatroom window is already open, but I closed it I swear!

slow

things are moving really slow. sometimes pages wont open, unavailable. chatroom is faster but like gratefulmom said, strange stuff going on.

new chatroom

no problem apart from nobody there - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Hey Marye...

New chatroom worked for me today :) but I was alone :(

Hi Mary

nobody else there but all seems to work fine Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

thanks much

that's been my experience pretty much also. Keep them reports coming!

new chatroom?

maybe i'm just not allowed. i've tried to get in several times and it always says "offline".

test chat link

http://www.dead.net/testchat

dead.net

been tellin me all night that this room is not avaliable this is the first time ive been able to get in all night(been this way with all forums ive tried ti enter)

thanks

we THINK this may be fixed now, but if not speak up!

still just me

oh dear my timing must be awry - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

fixed?

What is going on with the chatroom? Is it going to be reignited? Is it dead for good? What???

http://www.dead.net/testchat

http://www.dead.net/testchat , timmy go here

Okay...

the chat room should now be accessible through the convenient link on the left. It is running the new software. Please report any issues, and chat on!

heads up folks

Regarding the chat room: when the new version went live, we discovered that people can access the chat room without being logged on to Dead.net. As it usually does, this led to some problems, mainly with drive-by types who came in and posted nasty stuff and vanished. We thought we had that security hole plugged, as it were, but I'm hearing more reports of strange posts from people no one knows, and I've just had a really alarming PM from one of the ladies here who was in the chatroom, ran into a person with a perfectly legit-sounding name, and was invited to a private chat by said person. No sooner did she get there than he commenced some fairly vile sexual harassment. Following up, I find we have no such user. Of COURSE. I have sent up an emergency flare in Jonathan's direction. But meanwhile, we encourage you to exercise some street smarts in the chat room. In particular, do not go into private chats with people you do not know well. Hang out with them in the public chat room to get a sense of who they are. I'll keep you posted on the technical side, but meanwhile, watch each card etc. Thank you. ME with the mod hat on

Thanks for the heads up

marye. There ARE some real oddballs showing up now-people blabbering nonsense and hit-and-run insults. And now at least one instance of harrassment-OY! Am sure the 99.9999% lovely folk here will stick together and beware.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

im confused

theres more then one chat room?must i be invited? wow am i out of the loop! Peace, The Kid

I defer to those who spend more time there on that one

but in the meantime, Jonathan says he has changed some settings and things should be more secure. PLEASE report any problems. Thanks!

reason I`m not there

Some folks are probobley wondering where I am , he`s not in the chat room , maybe he does`nt want to be part of our comunity .. well that is not true , the letters are too small for me ,, even when i change the font they are still too small and it hurts my eye`s .. so that is why I am not there .. I do want to remain part of the comunity , I enjoy it here .. for the most part .. the vine thing has got me frustrated ,, but i do enjoy being here !! well with that said ,, I hope everyone has a wonderful day !! Peace .... Stu .....

stuman

I'll pass this to Jonathan--who knows, maybe it's fixable.

Universal Access...

... is what it's called in a Mac, I guess there's an equivalent feature in a PC machine. Anyway, it allows the user to zoom in to make the text bigger. I use it in the chat room, makes it a lot easier to read that tiny font they use there. HTH

Hey Stu!

You are one of the rocks on the vines! You gotta hang in there, miss seeing your early am posts. Knew something was up. Hang in there, like the acrobatic cat you are! Miss ya stu.peace,pk ps. oroboros's latest '77 and the neil vine will be worth the wait! We will try and keep that train rolling down the track, just don't want to do the he's gone part.

Hey Buddy ,Marey , Pk

Thank you !! Buddy you know I was wondering what that little button was for ,, well now i feel kinda dumb ,,.. you know us older guy`s and this is my first computer ,,..And with that minor dificulty solved you all can expect to see me in the chat room ... Thank you again Buddy ,, thank you Marey ,no need to bother Jonathan ,, and thank you PK .... will talk to you all later ... Peace and sweet dreams !! Stu ....

William Blke quote

Hello Hal, New here, Confused maybe its your signature or something, just passing through this site: But isn't that a quote from Aldous Huxley? I remember it from the Doors of Perception, in the preface? Don't have the book, its been like 20 plus years, but I didn't think it was Blake? I thought it was Huxley. My head hurts.............

text message number

does anyone have the number to get text messages regarding the latest information on the Band. thanks yuletime

if you go to home page

there is a sign-up for emails....might cover that

know your rights, brothers and sisters!

Be careful out there and know your rights. Here is a youtube video on your legal rights and search and seizure. Don't want to see too many people out there get into unnecessary trouble during the tour: http://stopthedrugwar.org/videos/busted now go have fun at the shows!

what is the "400" on the 09 tour t-shirt?

I have a question?!!We went to the Albany show April 17th. We got t-shirts from inside. My boyfriend got the blue tie-die (skeleton in car...i think) On the back is the list of tour stops. at the bottom is a triple rose pyramid if you will, inside is the number "400". Does anyone know what this means? It is driving us batty!!! *~Peace & Love*~

it's driving a lot of people batty

I have no good answer either!