Grateful Dead

from taking a walk. It didn't help. So I wanted to add a couple things to my prior post about my perceptions of the various 'points' being made about this show and the motivations behind them. First, I don't believe that anyone here can speak for Jerry with any authority and those who are trying to present such info either for or against this show, are being very presumptuous (IMO) as well as more than a little grandiose and somewhat narccasistic. When did you get so knowledgable on Garcia's mind? And maybe, just maybe, there are 4 guys (who did spend more time with Garcia than any of you) that have decided that THEY desire to play this show and proclaim "change rocks" and support Obama. That decision isn't within their wheelhouse according to whom? I get that you don't like it, but to attack the boys personally and comments like "want to punch" etc. or the constant impugning of their judgement/charactor because it doesn't comport with your political beliefs(or lack thereof). Amazing. And I don't agree either with the venom spewed at the conservatives/republicans. Just because someone thinks differently than me doesn't entitle me to abuse them. I have learned something with all this. That some people on both the right and the left are intolerant of other's views and have learned at the feet of the current politicians/media to verbally attack, harrangue, threaten, smear, and abuse in order to make yourselves feel better. The aninimity of the computer seem to embolden your harsh and severe retorts. Or is that what you are trying to engage others in? Your own little 'hatefest' where you can justify being brutal to someone? And present yourself as superior? What then? Your positions and beliefs must be very shakey indeed if you are unable to articultate them without attack, innuendo, and the rest of what I have seen that is masqarading as argument in this thread. And that goes for the pro as well as the con on the upcoming show. To fling your personal view as if it were gospel truth is at best unfortunate. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but everyone is not entitiled to their own facts. Many are presenting their opinions as fact, which is unconvincing at any level. If you can't tell the difference between the two, that is sad. If you can tell the difference and you are attempting to bully others to accept your view, that is tragic. For you. And probably unfortunate for us as well. Just my opinion. Not a fact. Addendum- Several years ago the band wrote a letter to misbehaving & entitled fans stating (in part): "Want to end the touring life of the Grateful Dead? Allow bottle-throwing gate crashers to keep on thinking they're cool anarchists instead of the creeps they are. ......................The spirit of the Grateful Dead is at stake and we'll do what we have to do to protect it. And when you hear somebody say "Fuck you, we'll do what we want," remember something: That applies to us too." (signed) Billy Kreutzman, Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Bobby Weir, Vince Welnick

has anyone ever seen a show in State College? which hotel is everyone staying in? or campground would be even better, but probably cold:) any advice on hotel/campground preference in town? WHOOOO-HOOOOO!!! 4 years and im losing SLEEP over this one!!! PA here i come!!!

I appreciate & agree with both of your posts. Neither party represents the people of this country. Both parties reflect what has happened on Wall street- greed. They only want what will perpetuate inertia & bring them more money, ie, taxes, book deals, gifts, retirement plan, medical insurance, etc. You get the picture. Everything is me, me, me. Unless something catastrophic happens I dont believe we will see significant movement to take care of us. I dont think Pink Floyd meant this kind of Us vs. Them.