Grateful Dead

we are dry down here (for now) and my computer is itching to burn these. this was the first vine i signed up for and its finally on it's way. Thanks eric for sending and i will post here when i receive. dave

arrived in my mailbox today. will burn over the next few days and post when i pass along. thanx cosmicbadger!

but I need chasmo's addy to send it off. i emailed him and now we wait. people remember, its always a good idea to PM your contact info to the person in front of you so there are no delays (steps off soap box). will give it a few days. dave

Chasmo sent his addy so i will be mailing this out tomorrow. thanx again cosmicbadger for a fantastic vine. ;}

wil blast this vine off tomorrow to reedchris. stay cool,peace.

this vine is on its way to reedchris. have a great life,peace.

Have this vine now. I'll send off to Stu today or tomorrow depending on when I get an addy.

CHEK YOUR PM , and please get orgonized ,, is this why you send vines out late , you keep loosing addressess ??

Do you have any plans on mailing the vines you are sitting on ? shit man I could have walked to asshville and back by now ..........This vine thing used to be fun until I found out that you are the one killing vines man ..........

a blank page ..... The guy is`nt even men enough to post anything .. Another dead vine at the hands of chris reed ...... Hope most here have a grate day !!

Ease up dude. There could be something wrong. Questioning if he is "man enough" is harsh, especially if you don't know for a fact what is up? If it is a bad link to the vines maybe a discussion should be in place on how it should be taken care of.......just an idea.....

Lets try not to kill each other here. "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

1. is reedchris here almost everyday ? 2. how many vines on the last pages has his name as the last person in posession of missing vines ? 3. has anyone after me received this vine yet ? please don`t tell me to ease up when I am right. thank you

well I started this one so I feel a little protective about it and I know some people down the line are desperate to get it. I have seen reedchris listed as being on here more than once recently (ie in the past week) so I suspect he is aware of the situation. I have no idea if he is inefficient, selfish, has some unspecified problem or is maybe reacting badly to being called out like this. Perhaps it would be a good idea to offer a vine amnesty to him, stop shouting at him, give him a clear week to get things moving or offer an explanation. Send him a PM to that effect and post it on all vines where he seems to be holding things up. If there is no progress then I suggest he is removed from vines and kind people are asked to reseed. Not much else one can do, and there is no point in getting too aggravated is there? Just a suggestion

Hey Now Stuman ~ I know that your just trying to keep things moving along, which is cool, but I also know that reedchirs has been vining for some time & not had any issues before. He is a very kind Soul. He has helped me out & when I had to step off the vine trail for a while sent me pms etc.. to make sure I was doing okay. Yes I want this dang vine, but it is Snail Mail after all & I can wait. Let's just enjoy this & "stay cool honey bunny.." Badger is right ~ Take it easy :) PEACE

And I can empathize with the frustration with vines disappering or being delayed. We just have to try to work it out and communicate with one another. I do think that when these things happen and no one knows what is up, that is how vines get 'lost' or "frozen" and that is a shame. Then viners drop out and the whole network will shrivel up and be much less than it could be. My paternal 2 cents worth. Enter the Matrix Vine 14. reedchris 15. chichi1514 (ccsailor11@gmail.com) 16. stuman 17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. Oroboros

cosmicbadger are you willing to re-seed this vine ? if I do as you said and post on the vines he has , then i get accused of being a dick ..pm`s get ignored.. and I have posted on a few vines and I got no response from anyone ..(until now) I asked for re-seeds of these vines and also got no response.(Ltapilot has sent me one of the missing vines) I did pm some folks that did receive this vine , also no response .... I have some really nice stuff I could vine out ,, (Orlando shows,Philly shows ect..) but all this with reedchris has kept me from doing so , I don`t want to seed it just to see it die... I just want to see the vines grow .. I want to see everyone get a fair chance to enjoy the wonderful music Jerry left behind for us .. well, i guise thats all i have to say .. I hope you all have a wonderful day !! Take care ...

Of course I am willing to reseed if needs be.. Reedchris please let us know what's up. It seems you've had this since 22 Sept. If you want to PM me or anyone else (maybe RIder) then that's fine and we won't be nasty :-). Is it possible that you mailed to chichi, who pulled out of the vine a while back, but has now mysteriously reappeared on the list between you and stuman. If you need stuman's address I can send it. Lets give it a week or so and see OK.

Stuman, that is not what I was trying to convey, I think you are a Kind Soul as well :) We said Dick, pc pc pc PEACE

Stu! Calm down dude! I mailed you the vine! Yes I am here everyday Stu, and no I dont have any vines in my possesion. I turn them out as fast as I can dude. Perhaps you are reading into this a bit too much. Call off the dogs! Obviously there is a big miscommunication here. Chichi was removed from the vine, but then contacted me with an address. I'm making a copy for him because I sent the vine to Stu. As for personal attacks, this is uncalled for and quite frankly I find it appaulling. I'm here to chat with and meet level headed people. Perhaps this is the wrong place for me. Island of the misfit toys here I come. Stu, relax friend. Check your mailbox. Any vines I get from now on I'll just pass along. I'm not very cozy here anymore. Take care and don't forget to smile, Chris

Theres some bad vibes here. I don't think I'm coming back. I'm not siiting on any vines, and If I neglect to post that I've mailed some then I'm sorry. Take me off of all vines because you wont see me around here anymore. Keep the faith. Sorry Stu, but you are over reacting a bit. Bye.

Def need to chill, Chris was far from any of the problems on here, and some of us actually have jobs and families that come before the music. Jerry would be happy that everyone is still enjoying his music but I think he would be asking you to take a step back and re-adjust your attitude and sensitivity towards fellow dead family members. With your attitude, keep your orlando and philly shows like you are holding gold or something. Thanks for the midweek buzz kill stu, sad day here in the vineyard...........

I like both of you guys. Stuman and Reedchris. Ive been around both of you for quite awhile now and I wish we could just let this go. Maybe Stu was harsh and mabye reedchris does take a little to long with vines, but I just wish we could forget about this and just vine. love you all, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

I appreciate it Todd and Trevor. Perhaps I might take too long with a vine here and there, and yes I do work my ass off and have a young child with another on the way. There could be a million excuses. But I don't feel that there is any reasonable excuse for verbally assaulting a fellow member of dead.net. I'm here because I'm very comfortable around all of you. We can talk about the music and share the music among one another. That positive vibe is gone the minute someone starts personally attacking someone else. I apologize for the mishap. I feel that I explained it quite well. I also feel that aggression is for the mentally impotent. To talk about someone "having balls" is completely infantile and asinine. What really takes "balls" is admitting when your wrong, acting like an adult, and taking responsibility for your actions. Apparently that is not a requirement to become a member. Thanks guys, but my pride is thicker then water. Feel free to contact me. With open arms, an open heart, and an open mind, ....bid you good night...good night...good night. Don't forget to smile, Chris

is shitty real frickin shitty .......rnt well all brothers and sisters here????....this does not sway my opinion of either of u .... but come on now is'nt it bout the music??? lets get over this lil hurtle and just remember that i luuuuuuuuuuv u guys.....peace yall BEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT WOULD JERRY DO IN THIS MESS?????? just in mho .....but i think he would say just let the music breath

Jerry wouldn't insult somebodies integrity, intelligence, or intentionally try to hurt their feelings. I for one feel pretty damn good about myself. I'm a better father, husband, son, brother, and friend. Check whatever skeletons are in your own closet. "Woe is me Vine" 1. stuman

Well said bear. Where is the love. Music is the great healer.peace,love, and mutual respect, not too much to ask,pk

Thats all I ask pkpotter. What if I started posting insults towards other people? Again, please pm me with email addy's so that we can keep touch. Unfortunately, I'm not going to stick around. I've got a ton of tunes. Maybe we can trade off line? I'm sorry everyone, I trust that those of you who know me and my family well will not only keep in touch, but keep a happy and growing family strong. Brody just asked me "Whats wrong Daddy?" It's funny how kids know everything. Later. pm me for my email if you would like. Chris

I know this is a vine forum, but it is within that spirit of the living vine that I would like to say something. This is not a happy moment. We are about to lose one of our friends. This is a sad day in the vines. This garden cannot survive without love and respect. It will wither and die. We are all friends here, all connected by a common vine. Frustrations can and do arise, as they do among family and friends. It is imperative to remember we are all friends sharing a common love for a band and a way of life that has been both given to us and made by us. Tolerance is one of the cornerstones of this life. Give your friends a ride, help them when they need a hand, treat them with respect and above all just understand,sometimes a little understanding will lead to a better world. I hope to see all of us vining again soon, all of us. The key word is us.

I agree with you , all I wanted was to know what was going on ,,, if the guy had problems then let us know ,, post it so we all know the vine aint dead , just post. mail when you post "it`s mailed" is that too much to ask from anyone ? crap I only get like 1 or 2 hours to play on the computer but it`s time enough to post what the vine is doing . oh and what personal attacks ? ( besides above post ) .. do you totally misunderstand everything I say ?and todd , I do have a wife familly and work full time .. You talk about familly chris ,, why do you hold back from your familly ? just post whats going on .. if it`s late then it`s late just let us know something .. don`t keep 15 or so other excited people in the dark .. that`s not cool ..

around and around, and feed into one another, and then accelerate into morphiing into the next phase, I hearby emplore you both to take a breath. Know that you have made your points and work now to vacate the animosity out of yourself for that other person. It doesn't help to hang onto that negativity. We are all flawed individuals (my hand is raised) and being part of this community (see pkpotter's post) of flawed individuals we all do 'fuck up' on a regular basis. This conflict isn't one to 'win', it is one to learn from and go on. I might be full of shit, but both of you guys have had serious losses/difficulties in the last year and I don't know how that might contribute to this conflict, but for your own sakes, try to find a way to let it go and move on. Do what you need to do to let it go. My hope is that things improve for both of you. Sermon over. Take care, Tim

well said Oroboros Stuman made his point, Chris made his point in return and did actually apologise for the hold up. The vine is in the post and Stuman will have it soon. So can't we leave it there. Chris wants out and I wish he didn't...lets not have any more casualties pleeease. Just listen to Pigpen tearing it up on 9/19/70 and Jerry playing Close Encounters on 1/22/78. and remember what brings us together here. So much more than should ever tear us apart.

C'moooooooon guys... Life's way too short to freak on this so much... "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"

16. stuman17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. bear549 (ccjc2_ssdd@yahoo.com) 24. unclejon Thanks Cosmic!

Enter the Matrix 16. stuman 17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. bear549 (ccjc2_ssdd@yahoo.com) 24. unclejon 25. oroboros Thanks Cosmic!

I forgot about Columbus day ,, drove to PO to find it closed yestuday.. this will be going out to birdsong today .....10-14 Take car folks ...

16. stuman 17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. bear549 (ccjc2_ssdd@yahoo.com) 24. unclejon 25. oroboros 26. GR8FLPT Thanks Cosmic!

Burning as we speak. Having a baby Monday (really!) Will PM Rider to get this out ASAP.

16. stuman17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. bear549 (ccjc2_ssdd@yahoo.com) 24. unclejon 25. oroboros 26. GR8FLPT 27. Billy S

Off to Rider this afternoon.

Got this yesterday, thanks Birdsong! Whoo Hoo :) Will post when I've mailed it off indeedy. PEACE

count me in!16. stuman 17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. bear549 (ccjc2_ssdd@yahoo.com) 24. unclejon 25. oroboros 26. GR8FLPT 27. Billy S 28. Pomo1 "Let there be songs to fill the air."

16. stuman17. Birdsong1969NJ 18. iknowurider 19. pkpotter 20. That Nice Hippy Guy 21. MarkintheDark 22. LIG71 23. bear549 (ccjc2_ssdd@yahoo.com) 24. unclejon 25. oroboros 26. GR8FLPT 27. Billy S 28. Pomo1 29. NJRipple

Gonna PM pkpotter for his Addy & Im mailing today. PEACE

Will work on it tonight. Then out to thatnicehippyguy.thanks iknowyourider and cosmicbabger! peace,pk

Out to Trevor on monday.

and will be out during the first part of next week. Thanks, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

as of today, along with vineyard 1st ann. Thanks everyone, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

Hi, The Enter the Matrix vine arrived today (with the 1st anniversary vine), strained my back hauling it out of the mailbox. It hurts, but it's a good kind of hurt. I'm going to have to discuss sending this to LIG71 in France with the senior viners before sending it out - reference my post in Technical Discussions. I'll keep y'all posted. Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************