Campaign 2008 - Who Do You Like?

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January 4, 2008 - 10:21am

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marye

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Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

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December 21, 2008 - 4:58am

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grdaed73

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Solemnly they stated

this forum has to dieYou know it has to die And when the day had ended With rainbow colours blended Their minds remained unbended so this forum has to die You know it has to die
December 20, 2008 - 9:22pm

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Hal R

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The Oroboros Soapbox

pretty fine words there my friend If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
December 20, 2008 - 9:12pm

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Oroboros

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When Bush was declared the winner his first election

I made efforts to show him respect and hoped that all would go well. Especially after 911, I hoped that we would be able to unify as a country/people. Other liberals also made efforts (if you recall) to not be 'sore losers' (Gore did conceed) etc. etc. And then Bush was elected to a second term. And do you really think there wasn't hope from many americans (even those of us on the left) that he would do well? There is such a thing as demonstrating an ability to applaud the efforts of the victor, even when it isn't your guy/team. We have made a practice of that after Nebraska football games and our home crowd stands and applauds the opposing team, win or lose (and have applauded more than we would have liked lately). That is one of the lessons of athletics, to be able to be humble in victory or defeat. In order to embrace the truth, one must have the ability to recognize when the opponent has outmatched you. And you can demonstrate respect for that person. Shit, Bush himself has made glowing comments about Obama of late, but there is an concurrent inability for others on the right to gracefully accept the will of the people and continue to vilify Obama before he even gets sworn in? And if McCain had won and the left was doing this to him, what would you say? Blaming and attacking him before he even took office? Please! You wouldn't stand for it. The devisiveness and intense partisainship that has marked the last 20 years doesn't serve this republic well, but talk show hosts on the right and the left love to drum up the hate. It makes them $ and whips their audience into an intolerant frenzy. Is that really what this country is all about? No wonder so many of the founding fathers were resistive to a system of political parties. My liberal friends made excuses for Clinton and I rebuked Clinton as well as admonishing my friend's double standards for Clinton's duplicity, hypocricy, and inattention to the nation's work that wasn't being done. My conservative friends made excuses for Bush and I rebuked Bush and admonished my friend's double standards for Bush's duplicity, hypocricy, and inattention to the nation's work that wasn't being done. I know when I get on my soap box, on my high horse, I generally fall off. It is a good thing I have a hard head. Luckily I believe that some of those posting so negatively on Obama have hard heads as well, because you all have landed repeatedly on your noggin since the election. I have had alot of practice at learning to lose, because the candidates I support so rarely have won. Maybe you just need more practice at losing to learn to lose with some dignity. Take a page from John McCain, or even George Bush. Look at the example of their response to the election and the respect they convey when discussing Obama. AND you can't have a tug of war with me, because I am on the same side of the rope as you are. IF you are for freedom, equality, justice, pursuit of happiness, etc. all those principles that this country was founded on. Or I could be wrong. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
December 20, 2008 - 8:09pm

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Hal R

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you said it Steve-O

thanks If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
December 20, 2008 - 2:28pm

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johnman

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i agree....the election is over

but cmon, people have been condemning bush all along (deservedly, mind you).....mebbe mite help if this topic.....went awaaaayy...from the forum!!
December 20, 2008 - 1:37pm

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grdaed73

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agree

4 EVVV OAR
December 20, 2008 - 1:12pm

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Gypsy Cowgirl

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Right on Steve-O

The election is OVER-Can't please all the people all the time......No one seemed to condemn or impeach Bush...how weird is that? this topic should just go awayGypsy Cowgirl
December 20, 2008 - 12:08pm

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Steve-O

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Elections over!!!!

Can we try supporting the new president before we condem him. Please
December 20, 2008 - 10:18am

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fillmore

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June 6, 2007

Perspective

I guess during the era of the Chosen One accountability doesn't matter and anything goes. Good thing for Sen Dodd & Franks! Looks like socialism isn't going to be our only big change. People should wake up and stop blaming Bush for everything. As bad as he was, he did not do it all! The one good thing he did was keep us safe.
December 19, 2008 - 9:39am

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gratefaldean

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The Chosen One

Wasn't that Dubya? God spoke to him or something?

Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

Great......

I'm being sarcastic, if he gets elected & we end up with his choice of VP......can't stand it........Can't stand how the vast majority (let's hope not) of America are stupid enough to go for it.........hope for the best!!! xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl

ps

ps-If I had to move to Canada (relatives up there) I'd be too far away from the grandkids........HOPE 4 THE BEST VOTE VOTE VOTEGC

Heart attack

Gypsy did you see the pic, that's the first thing that came to my mind was AAAA AAAA where's my nitro. Look at his hand, it looks weird like long nails and creepy. Like that old bald vampire in old dracula movies. HMMM maybe he's a vampire, yes that's it he's a vampire and thats why he 's been around so long. An he sank his teeth in Palin and now she'll live forever. I know what it is you have to be a blood sucker to get along in DC.

Didn't

Hey GoGD-didn't see it.......great........xoxo GC

heart

tried to google it to no avail......what section is it in?

I saw patriot,there are many,this was one

I witnessed a ture patriot tonight, at 6:15 CMT on msnbc. He asked real questions, of both sides of this decision. He was factual, pointed and wanted a straight answer to a straight question. he pressed for it, he didn't take just an answer, he wanted an answer to the question that was asked. He did this at great peril to his "safety net". He persisted and asked the questions to get answers for all of us. Before the thought of "he must be democrat!", actually he was a lifelong republican, can't tell that about his show, because he is a true journalist and is consumed by the truth and the quest thereof.Don't let the truth off the hook, that was the message. It was real. It was powerful. It was such a search for the truth, for all of our behalf's that I believe I saw a true patriot. Who was this? Search this one out. Peace,pk

johnman

It should come up as: Stars and Stripes, sure your familiar with it. download the paper, click mideast or european edition the only dif is the weather. 21 Oct page 8. I'll keep trying to copy it. PK- was it Hunter S. Thompson? I'm just guessing man.

Try this

johnman / gypsy try this http://epaper.stripes.com/index.php?archive=202703761764088209645088238… or if you get the main page go to electronic paper there is a link to view past 7 days. let me know if that works for yee.

photo

GOGD - I haven't been able to find it. In what section is it?? PKPOTTER - who is it you're speaking of? I can't imagine it's Olberman (although I LOVE his commentary, it's pretty apparent he's a Dem - so that'd rule him out).... I do like MSNBC, but find myself watching CNN mostly. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

Heart attack

Pappy try the site i posted above go to e-paper the last 7 days. BUT I was finally able to capture it I posted it in Fan Photos. It should show up within the next 24. I tried posting on this forum but couldn't do it. Just hope it will get posted, it's funny so we'll see. Hope it get's alot of feedback.

It was Chris

It was Chris Matthews........I know,Iknow... He did all of us a grate service. Both spokespersons for each of the candidates on, he asked very relevant questions of both candidates, very even, watched for response....did they answer the questions, or not...did the other party think, the heats on them I'm fine...he observed all of that and came right back to each guest...both guest's. he asked them again, and again.. he pressed both sides until the bs dropped and the truth shown. He has pushed the envelope for this election, to our benefit. pushing harder as he is getting more and more heat. how many of us would keep pushing,after being reprimanded,keep pushing,because you thinks it's right. He is doing that and it is a noble cause and it needs to be witnessed. And in these times of the news recount of the daily events,this should be noticed. just an observation, that I believe shows a true patriot. there are many true patriots here at deadnet as well. many names come to mind. Oroboros,HalR, pappy,good ol gd, and others. These are minds that make you think,hard..and thinking is really good. Just an opinion ,one of many, from an observer of many views. peace,pk

Thank you PK!!

Nice to be included in such lofty company! Chris Matthews is great. Tim Russert was great, too (RIP)....anyone who can bring out the truth - the REAL truth and not some bs story someone is trying to turn into truth - is wonderful in my eyes. Peace! ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

Grate minds

Yes, lofty company it surely is. Grate patriots seeking the truth and discussing the issues in a universal sense. Something to be proud of as a member of this community. And I am proud and grateful.peace,pk

Check THIS out...

I have to post this somewhere as I almost bust a gut, laughing....although it's pretty sad. Knucklehead of the Year Award Here's what she wanted you to believe: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/23/woman-claims-attack-lin… Here's what really happened: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/24/police-woman-lied-about… I can see her now - at her bathroom mirror with the butterknife....oy. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

I saw

I saw a great man todaya man with hope a man with ideas a man with dignity a man with strengh a man with courage a man with vision a man with compassion a man with grace a man with presence a man with heart a man with soul and a man with the love of the common man I saw a great man today His name is Barack Obama And I was proud to see him

Words of strengh and wisdom

Ask not what your country can do for youbut what can you do for your country a mission statement to guide a country. John F. Kennedy A patriot of the highest order. inspired by a friend and visionary in our midst.

Exactly PK. It is time for people to look out for our children

and their future. I voted (early) yesterday. Here in Nebraska, one of the VERY Red states and I cast my vote for Barak Obama. We may not win Nebraska, but the state is slated (according to the news) to have a 72% turnout! That is as it should be. Speak and be heard! That is what the founding fathers envisioned in this grand experiment of America. Get out and vote. And vote your conscience. For our future. And as Hubert Humphrey said "The measure of our society is how well we care for the poor, the disadvantaged, the children, the elderly, those who are least able to care for themselves". This is a great opportunity to reach for justice in our culture. We may all have different beliefs, truths, faiths, and experiences, but we have more in common that we have in differences. And this is our chance to make a difference, to have your voice heard, to affect our future, our children's future. Wasn't it Gandhi that said "Be the change that you want to see in the world"? Peace to all my brothers and sisters (including those who believe different truths than I). We can get there from here, whatever happens. But the boat ain't going to move, if we don't all get our oars in the water. Take care. A West African proverb: " You see the hut, yet you ask where shall I go for shelter?"

and John Gleese

Another american hero? Yes. He's a "Brit" aka "a wonderful friend" Has all of our best interests at heart he cares about this country and speaks out for it Yes, He's a "Brit" Thank you John

That's John Cleese...

My apoligies to Mr. John Marwood Cleese.

What a Knight

John Cleese on msnbc, speaking words of wisdom.The post above by Oroboros, speaking words of wisdom. And soon the one who guides this wonderful country, will speak words of wisdom That is hope That is all of our dreams Let it Be, Let it Be

Very good Oroboros

I would vote for you, could I be secretary of music? A new, but needed position. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

Only if you 'blue states' will absorb Nebraska ;o}!!

Here's to a better tomorrow!!! "you can't go back and you can't stand still, and if the thunder don't get you then the lightning will" The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.

a vote for the world

I know that domestic issues will be uppermost in the minds of voters. That's quite understandable, but US voters find themselves in a unique position. The choice you make will affect the lives of everyone on the planet and maybe even the health of the planet itself. So when you make your choices, please think about which of the two possible regimes might best balance the inevitable pursuit of self interest with the need for a peaceful, sustainable and just world.

VOTE!

I'll be voting for the first time in years on Tuesday. Gonna stand this country on it's ears! No more trillion dollar debt, no more killing, no more hate, no more racism and bigots, no Palin fem-nazis, no more world Domination and greed. No more getting or stealing our energy from other countries. This is the Greatest country on Earth. We are also the richest and no American should be without healthcare, food or homeless. The Republican's say they are Christians... but kill in the name of GOD. I thought the Ten Commandments said "Thou Shalt Not Kill"? Where is the small print that says, thou shalt not kill unless? We say we are a Nation under God. But live one way on Sunday and completely different on Monday. Money rules Everything in this country. Yet the Bible says it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into Heaven. Somebody is telling us twisted lies! Too much Hate in this world. If I had my way we would have another 1960's uprising and THIS TIME.... Get it RIGHT! Love can Change the World! I'll not stand for another single day living on a planet filled with greed and hate and fear. If that's the way the people in this world want to live then I'm Ready to leave this Godforsaken place and go be with all our loved ones who have passed to the next level. There must be people with love and compassion in their hearts somewhere in this Universe. I don't expect Everyone to see things the same, but wouldn't it be nice if we could all get along and take care of each other? Hate breeds hate. We reap what we sow. If this world has lost the warmth in their hearts to want Peace and Love... Then I Pray for Jesus to come take me HOME! I know voting for Obama won't solve all our problems, but it's a step in the Right direction. And if he truly is the anti-Christ then you'll know it soon after he rises up after being mortally wounded. If that's the case, then see ya! I'm outta here! Until then... Can't we at least TRY one more time to reunite this country and bring back it's Goodness that was for so many years the envy of all the children in all countries to come live here where the statue of Liberty say's; "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of you teamming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Or is that just for show and has no Real heartfelt meaning? I'm sick of the lies, greed and hate. So go vote and PRAY we get it Right this time! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals!

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probably

probably this post was copied and pasted from an email the dude was sending... I'd guess that. peace.

or

it's a democratalist...uh......republicrat.........er,capitalcrat?.............oh my

ya know.....

i'm still tryin' ta figure out when words like conservative and liberal became so insulting

ya know #1

Jm-who cares when they became so insulting because look what has happened the last 8 yrs-insulting to all of us-any kind of Americans....xoxoo Gypsy Cowgirl

change!

I've been waiting for tomorrow for a long, long, long, long time. Go big "O". Peace! New ones coming as the old ones go Everything's moving here, but much too slow now

I care

I care, because we are all americans.......even the two fools running for office....this goes alot farther back then the "current" bush administration. the divisive nature bugs me because we are all entitled to have differing opinions, we are guaranteed that by the constitution which, i must add, i have sworn an oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. i hope whoever takes home the cake tomorrow remembers that single vital document because it defines us all as a country and it gives us rights AND responsibilities that we too often take for granted, others dream of, and blood was spilled to secure........now....about that cookie

Christians/Republicans

Someone recently made mention of the fact that most Christians are Republicans. I have found that to be true, to a degree...maybe it's more vice versa. Funny though, not the killing part, but the fact that some of Senator Obama's views are being considered "socialist" by the Republicans....sorry, isn't it part of Christianity to "help thy brother?" And didn't a WHOLE bunch of Republicans (including their presidential nominee) recently vote in a bailout for Wall Street? What's more socialist than THAT?A little socialism never hurt anyone....it's not like Obama wants the US Government to control everything....such a silly attempt at creating a "buzzword". For those still "on the fence"....I'll just let you in on a few things that happened to me here in the swing-state of Pennsylvania within the past 24 hours. I received 3 mailers and 4 phone calls from the McCain campaign and 5 phone calls (no mailers) from the Obama campaign. The calls & mailers (some of which are downright hilarious, yet sad) from the McCain campaign were ALL attacks on Barack Obama. EVERY one of the 5 calls from the Obama campaign were asking me to volunteer to get people to vote. Quick note on the McCain mailers...the first was one reminding me that Obama said Western Pennsylvanians were clinging to guns & religion. The second mailer asked if I really thought Obama was a Christian, or a Muslim and warned me that a vote for Obama would mean a 500% increase in guns & ammo tax. Er....uh...what do you think I am? A gun-toting religious freak? Hahahaaaaaa......I had to laugh...really. The phone calls were robocall surveys. When I would answer that I was voting for Obama, the machine started spewing "facts" that Obama's first legislation would be in favor of partial-birth abortions. Right. Not on an energy bill, or anything like that - he's gonna go right for that. Another wonderful "fact" was that he would make states like Pennsylvania recognize gay marriages from Cali & Mass and I wouldn't want that, would I? I answered "That wouldn't bother me in the least." Fear....oooooooohhh, the multi-cultural boogeyman is coming! ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

okay you guys

go vote!

remember to..

buy your beer today!! and of course VOTE TOMORROW!!

beer

tc....in washington state i can buy beer anytime.....but thankfully i received 32 beers yesterday as a birthday gift. strange quantity, i know............

pappy, my friend

it is not necessary to be religious, or a nut to own firearms. ya don't hafta be a republican, or a democrat,or even have any political affiliations. ya don't hafta have short hair, or long hair. or wear a tie, or tie-dye, wing-tips or sneakers, birkenstocks or western boots or any shoes at all. you don't even hafta like other peoples music. over 75 million americans legally own firearms. i am one of those americans, as are many deadheads-believe it or not!!. it's one or the rights that i spoke of that people take for granted.....of course you don't have too either. you don't even have to LIKE them, but i firmly believe that it is one of our checks and balances and a right that we should not lose.....i would prefer to not have prices go up any farther..........now to all of you who disagree with me.....that's another of your rights....just please don't hate me or insult me or think badly of me, i love you all-we are brothers and sisters.....jeez, even PIG sang of a shotgun fulla rock salt. nw......c'mon......lets all have a cookie and a beer.......please??oh......and i'm not voting for sen. mccain either.........ok beer and cookies ,ok? puhlease???

BBC poll

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7706572.stm I got 9/10. would have gotten 10/10, but went straight to the sad grampa answer, didn't read the question carefully asking which one was NOT mentioned; but I didn't see the SNL show,just sound bites from it, the only bit I saw was the sad grampa. might have gotten that one wrong anyways. the other day my old lady mentioned something she read about Obama's aunt, I wouldn't have known that one otherwise. Totally guessed on the after voting thing for McCain and got it right. I was thinking along other lines (go home and _ _ _ _ ) which wasn't a choice in that 'poll' "uhhh, huh huh huh. he said 'poll'" - Butthead voice. peace.

It's a beautiful day to

It's a beautiful day to elect a president!peace, and hope, pk

Dammit, CC

You got to "score" with your "poll."Heh heh. Heh heh. Heh heh heh... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Johnman...

I'm withya all the way, brother. It's anyone's right to bear arms....just try not to arm any bears, they're already dangerous enough, as it is. My point was simply that McCain's team was trying to say, "Look what he's calling you!" Then, they go ahead and basically make the same remark. Stoooopid. Anyhooo - I've already voted and now, we wait. What a glorious, historic day. Sunny & approaching 70 in the 'Burgh!!! ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter

Cookies and beer

In line at 5:25 am, I cast my ballot in 5 minutes: good grief there were a lot of judges to retain. I didn't realize there were 5 folks running for president. Finally, we can look forward to car commercials again. As far as cookies and beer: I'll pass on the cookies, but an India Pale Ale is in the near future: Hercules, 90 day IPA, Racer 5, Flying Dog???

johnman

how's a-boot a jelly doughnut and some Molson ey! I own firearms too, guess I'm just a Freedom fighter or maybe freedom rider. choclate chip cookies go great with beer but maybe not as good as bear claw. nummy

waaahoooo!!!

i don't much care for canadian beer, tastes too much like bud(weiser), but i'll keep one on ice!!i drove past my polling place just after mass...like 0815......line around the block!! figured, ok, have breakfast and go back....people will be at work....0930....line has DOUBLED!! it's great to see americans taking advantage of their rights!! HEY, HEY, USA!!! i got some dead loaded on my phone.....and it has a speaker....that should thin the line out....or i can sneak in while everyone's twirlin'!! heehee!!

Guiness? johnman

How bout a Guiness my friend, or your choice I'll buy. Got a question ever thought of this I'm a federal gov employee but pay federal income tax to which military pay is derived from. so I'm paying my own paycheck, hmmm. And I go walking out chooba, chooba

Rocked the vote

I took my 18 year old twin daughters, 1st time voters to the polls today! We walked right in ,no line here, til they srcewed up the machine...leave to my twins heehee..we left a nice line behind us though! Hey I didn't get a cookie or a beer for voting :( Change Rocks!!

ok.....this is number 200!!

the tax thing is sumpin i realized right after i re-enlisted the first time...and now as a retiree it REALLY hits home....carap! usta tell my chief that i was paying my own paycheck.....so i must be self employed.....so i was goin' home early......(he did'nt see things that way for some strange reason). hey bro...i was gonna keep that molson on ice for YOU!! if yer deployed from ft. lewis i'll meetcha on the ramp when the plane lands!!.......mistah cholly tol' me so!!

musta made ya proud!!

all voting together. hit the store mom....tell 'em put it on johnman's tab!! heehee

line halfway around the block

when I went to vote too. Took about an hour, well worth it... I'd venture to say people who have never voted in this nabe are out in droves.

Good one johnman

Yea wish I could just go home early. No man not outta Lewis from Leonard Wood, MO.But hopefully there is going to be a tour this spring and summer and I plan to go where ever, use my combat pay to jetset to where the wind don't blow so strange. May just be up your way. Well I guess it's time to see who's winning this thing. Get to watch some TV tonight yippee.

hey gr8fulted

i'll take of those flying dogs, johnman thats a grate idea for moving a line along, and marye, i know you are right about that... time for change!