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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

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July 20, 2014 - 11:20pm

#1011

SimonT

Joined:
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A complaint

Dear Rhino / DaveI write to complain about [Box Set/Dave's Picks/packing material/audio quality/Fox news/male pattern baldness]. I have been on the bus since [1967/1977/1987/1997/I'm a troll/what's the bus?]. This latest release is [too expensive/too cheap/has fake tickets/is a dud show/not what i demand/wasn't recorded by Michelle Obama]. IMHO, [Jerry/Phil/Bob] are [out of tune/in tune/too loud/too soft/wearing shorts]and I have a tape from a gig I can't remember that sounds much better. You guys are [oddly trying to make a profit/a business/releasing dozens of Dead shows/satisfying a never ended buying public/aliens from planet Lady Gaga] and should be [consulting me first/hand delivering this for free/letting me run Rhino]. Why don't you release [the soundcheck from 11/5/72/the really crap show from 1993 that I went to/Jerry in the shower] instead of whatever you've released. I only have [50/75/100/150] Grateful Dead CDs that you have prepared and released and I am [not happy/so grateful/a complainer about everything/bald/friggin' over the moon at the 4-5 shows I get each year from you]. Yours etc
July 20, 2014 - 10:09pm

#1012

FennarioXRDS

Joined:
May 4, 2014

Band Input On Releases

This is a few years old but interesting: Interviewer: In talking about the new Dave's Picks live release series, Grateful Dead archivist David Lemieux recently told Rolling Stone that he informs everyone in the band what the next live release will be. He sends them advance copies, but he's not sure any of the band members actually ever put them on. When a new live Grateful Dead release comes out, do you listen to it? Bill Kreutzmann: I do. And the one that comes to mind right away is the new Europe '72 [The Complete Recordings] release. I went back and listened and on a couple of the CDs in that set – there's one that has "The Other One" into some kind of jam back into "The Other One" – the music is just fantastic. It blows my mind to this moment. I like that music, the looser music like "Bird Song" or "The Other One," because they're really heavily jam-oriented. The Garcia songs are always my favorite, but the jam parts are really my favorite. Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bill-kreutzmann-jerry-garcia-was… Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
July 20, 2014 - 9:29pm

#1013

PatagonianFox

Joined:
October 25, 2011

danc

i hate to break it to you, but you're the one with the negative tone. people hold different opinions. get used to it. for some reason i keep buying the stuff, but i personally don't need any more grateful dead. especially, if its from a period thats been done to death, so i feel for those who choose to spend their hard earned money on the annual subscription, hoping for something new, only to be disappointed time and time again. even if the grateful dead is the best band there ever was (a ridiculous concept), its still the same old shit. i'll never understand how anyone who is cash-strapped can shell out money for these albums when there is so much free stuff available, not to mention all the other great music thats just waiting to be discovered.
July 20, 2014 - 9:18pm

#1014

jrf68@hotmail.com

Joined:
August 6, 2013

Oh Boy!!

Just got home from 3 days of being ignored by every trout imaginable in NW Wyo.Sneaky bastards.....Happy with the '72 comin" our way. Thanks.....:) P.S.-While on the road today we picked up 2 folks from the recent Rainbow gathering in Utah and gave 'em a lift. Felt some old days coming back as we barreled down the highway.Fun memories.Then & now...... :)
July 20, 2014 - 8:51pm

#1015

Syracuse78

Joined:
July 15, 2010

Man, there are some angry Dead Heads out here...

1) The new Garcia release is awesome! I have listened to it in its entirety 3 times already. FWIW, I listened to the first '90 Box once. I think that is partly due to the fact that Garcia releases are pretty sporadic, whereas the Dead have probably released 500+ hours of music. 2) Claims of an instant sell out of the new '90 Box have proven false. Perhaps 1990 doesn't have the unbelievable, unquenchable fan base that some people are led to believe. It's not really my cup of tea, so I just won't buy it. But I don't begrudge TPTB from releasing it, and other fans from scooping it up and enjoying it. Like many things in this world, I will just not buy it without being angry about its existence. 3) There are a heck of a lot of GD releases, so if you don't particularly care for what is released, perhaps just don't buy it. There will be more coming soon and perhaps you will like them better. 4) There is so much live GD available on line, that if you really want to hear a particular year, just find it and listen to it! It's not that hard! C'mon, you can do it! Do you really need the Official Stamp of Approval of your first show being released officially? 5) There are certain characters on here who you just have to ignore. We all know who they are, as they pop up every now and then just to antagonize everyone else. Like an obnoxious 8 year old kid, the best way to shut them up is to ignore them. 6) Given how much nice quality music has been released by our Grateful Dead, you should either feel pretty darn lucky that you get the chance to buy all this stuff if you want it, or pass if it doesn't interest you. Having that choice is a good thing! Do you complain every time you pass an ugly shirt in a store? No (hopefully). You just choose not to buy it and you continue on with your life. That is all.
July 20, 2014 - 7:46pm

#1016

Coconut Phil

Joined:
June 4, 2007

CSN 2014 Tour>Spring 1990/2 >1972

@ Rednow Glad to hear CSN put on a great show. My bros and I are going to two shows next month in SC. I have been listening to the 1974 Tour set that just came out. Really great music, so glad they released it. I hope more will come out in the future. I'm looking forward to Dave's 11 arriving, can't beat a HDCD 1972 show. This years box set will be well received at my place. I'm like many others, glad to get it. I think 2015 is going to be a great year for releases. I do hope we see some shows on Bluray come out. Peace
July 20, 2014 - 7:00pm

#1017

Brewrow

Joined:
November 3, 2013

Hmmm...

Well said Oxford. And also a big thanks to dantian for posting the previous thoughts from DL and others. It's all for the love and admiration of a truly magical group of guys and gal. I really understand the love of a certain "era" of the band and the passion that comes with that, but geesh the hating on and name calling really doesn't seem necessary. It is all subjective to an individuals tastes. I can't stand black licorice, but others LOVE it. Don't berate them for loving it. Also don't think its necessary to berate others if they want something different. Just saying, everyone has their tastes and let's keep the back and forth banter civil. Love the passion that everyone has for a group of musicians that have truly changed my life for the better. But great art does that, right?
July 20, 2014 - 6:55pm

#1018

claney

Joined:
July 20, 2007

@dantian

dantian - nice work finding those interviews, thanks for sharing.
July 20, 2014 - 6:47pm

#1019

Oxford 88

Joined:
April 28, 2012

Thanks Dantian

For digging up the calm and concise thoughts from Dave.... from 2005! This info and the band's philosophy have been pretty darned consistent. They know they have a tremendous financial resource in the vault, yet they are allowing it to be handled by great professionals who are experts in their fields. This board is really starting to read like a transcript of bad sports radio with all the usual suspects getting wound up in all directions over and over again. Let's consider the alternatives to our current bounty of 4 subscription releases, 2 record store releases, 1 major box and at least 1 wide release per year, 52 weeks of live highlight in the Jams and Tapers Sections, 30 days of the Dead every November: CSNY takes 40 years to release tinkered with highlights of their most famous tour-no full shows and brutally overpriced. The Allmans churn out yet another Fillmore set, granted this is everything until they find the sound checks and Duane noodling in his dressing room. Somewhat related-the sound quality of their archive releases has been pretty spotty. Dylan puts out his bootleg series which has had some great live shows, but that is once or twice every five years. The Band's Academy of Music release was an excellent show, but the pricing, pompous packaging and self-congratulatory write-up made me want to hurl. The Who or Stones? Forget I even brought them up. Phish comes the closest in terms of quality, quantity and fair pricing for their shows, but really there is no other band or performer that simmers the stew of profitability, legacy and caring about their fans as well as the Dead. Yes indeed it is about the money. Amazing to think that after all these years, these people who played for us long and hard, have come upon a formula to steadily provide for their families. Right now, this scenario feels like a well curated audio museum; we like some exhibits, others, not so much. The band, Dave and Rhino don't owe us a thing. Vote with your wallets if you want. After five days of house painting, cranking great show after great show, I am pretty damned grateful for what we have. Not sure my neighbors feel the same way. Peace and Happiness!
July 20, 2014 - 6:18pm

#1020

danc

Joined:
September 11, 2007

so many assholes, so little mind....

....a negative bitch grind about a hot Fall '72 show to be released, that's all you need to know about the discussion tone that has resurfaced here. Totally fucked. I likes me some croaking, wheezing 80s Dead as much as the next 50-something. But IT IS second or third class shit, let's agree on that, ok? Keep the apex shit coming Dave, thanks!

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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

@brianhahne

Thank you. I think?

Dicks...

I brought out Dicks Volume 2 this past weekend. Short but definitely very sweet... The Dark Star>Jam is one of my all-time favorites. Also recently listened to England '74. Can't remember the number off top of my head. Very good.

Dead start 1965?

I also have always been led to believe tht the band we all know & love so much got there start in 1965. So imagine my surprise when I found this pic while looking at some old photos of the Fillmore Westhttp://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/769/MI0001769217.jpg?pa… It clearly is labeled Oct. 23, 1964! Can anyone comment on this? Rock on

fennario?

you're welcome? I think?not sure why i'm saying you're welcome... but you're welcome

@brianhahne

I think just placed an order with you on ebay. Didn't know it was you until I got the reply.

Hbob Photo

Don't know where you came across that photo, but I wouldn't put too much stock in the printed info at the bottom. The photo itself looks to be from a 1990 show, and look closely, there are TWO Bobs in it! Fairly easy to type onto a photograph these days. Check your Deadbase. No shows in October '64.

@ wharfrattx

Thanks Wharf. The photo certainly confused me. Guess I am too gullible! I trust people too much perhaps.

as others have said, please take the squabbling and name-calling

to private messages, if you really feel the need to continue in this vein. Reposting PMs in public: please don't do it again. Thank you. mod hat off etc.

Dead Start

Look at the setlist on that bootleg. UJB PITB Ripple It sure isn't from the 60's.

RE hbob1995 - Dead start 1965

Well, the first Playing in the Band was 2-8-71, and the last King Bee was 12-15-71 (with PigPen). So, if this is all from one show, it would need to be between those dates. I checked and cannot find any shows (that we know of) that have all of the songs in the list for this CD at one show. It is probably songs culled from shows between those two dates. If anyone else wants to check, the song list on the cd is: Uncle John's Band NFA-GDTRFB Morning Dew Playing in the Band Ripple Sugar Magnolia Casey Jones Me & Bobby McGee King Bee. Interesting puzzle, though :)

fennario....

oh you did... ok? Then that's your road trips i just put in the mailbox. just a heads up... hit me up ahead-of-time next time via email.. I sell stuff there, but if you contact me, i will knock money off it if I know you're from here on this msg board.. can't do it after the fact though... but in the case of some folks here who buy a lot, it adds up

marye

Thank You. You can keep your mod hat on.

glass1990...

Got your PM... you got one back. I'll send you my email too.

Wow...

That was quite a morning read over my yogurt and granola. The best part of this cyber-community is that it helps me to stay connected to a great time in my life. The music and conversation sustain me on many fronts. Even the arguments and diatribes have their place (had some very intense discussions in the hotels, arenas, campgrounds, etc). The reality for all of us tied to this band is that we share a passion willingly with others. Some of us are nuttier than others (why I have the same show in four media formats or five different recordings is very hard to explain to the uninitiated). To get too serious or angry about any of this makes no sense. The music and memories should transport us to higher places in our minds. Sure it is personal, very very personal. In sharing the experience we need to give each other the space and respect we would give our neighbors at a show. Experienced plenty of true idiots there ( getting pissed on at calaveras 87 or having my girlfriend's head split open by a quarter thrown from the upper reaches at Nassau 85, trampling gate crashers, etc.) I like to think of these forums as being free of the idiots, a gathering of folks into it for the right reasons. I hope we can get back to this place. Thanks to Mary E for cleaning up the mess. Let's try to leave nothing but educated passionate footprints.

Wow...

Incoming

Garcia Live, Vol 4. Start the spin this evenin'. BTW-saw Robert Hunter is appearing at Newport Folk Festival. Saw him last time around in Boston-great show. Listened to the CSNY 74 1 disc compilation from the new box set. Nice versions of some of the more well known songs on this 1 disc version. Ironically it makes me apprec. the Dead all that much more-less hype, more jams, more chances taken, less politics, more timeless IMHO.

@Oxford88

Well said.

loves me some marye

Mary Ramon(e) Tommy Ramone passed recently...hooray for the Ramones! or, Gabba Gabba Hey! Revolver sounds REALLY good right now :))) I recommmmmmmmmmmmmmend Love or Confusion by Jimi H Exp. Wanna blow your mind? Read Beloved by Toni Morrison. CREEPY. HARTFORD 83!!!

hey Marye, Seth H. is correct...

you missed the original post that started it all...so, yea that should be removed as well... peace to you, Brother Seth... ♤

BlairJ versus BigDonnie

Does anyone remember the Blair J and Big Donnie smackdown on the Europe 72 thread a few years ago? That was something to behold.Speaking of BlairJ, you never see his postings anymore. Could BlairJ be posing as Bolo24? Just wondering.

Allman

That does make a lot of sense, indeed. Oh that mysterious Bolo...

New Jerry Release...

UnderTheVolcano: You are in for a treat... I was blown away by this release.The set list looks very ordinary but the performance is awesome. The sound quality is top notch. Love the background vocals with both Donna and Maria...

Bolo Jackson

Yep. Bolo, same first letter as Blair. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet. 24, or 2 + 4, = 6 6 + 6 = 12. Subtract 12 from the number of letters in the alphabet (26) and you get 14. Take the 4 from Bolo's name, and subtract it from 14, and you get 10 (J!) It's obvious! (The "olo" is just there to confuse us)

stop

Who cares who or what message started it? Please respect a very good moderator in Marye and just let the back-and-forth end. Marye does a great job and rarely gets involved in these spats between members. She isn't banning you guys, just saying cut it out. Now, where is the DaP11 announcement? The timing of this box announcement really will leave DaP11 little space of its own. I am sure it will get the love it deserves, but I wonder if some non-subscribers will have to forgo purchasing because of this $250 box already announced. Lastly, release of individual shows would be fantastic. My guess on the E72 individual releases is that there was a quick demand for the music-only box, but that did not live up the hype. So, they have them in-stock now. Personally, I love that the E72 tour is available individually-- I didn't get the box, but have been chipping away at shows. Someday, maybe I will have the tour...

Avatar confusion

Does bolo24 have part of the cover art for DaP11 up as an avatar?Saw it this morning and it's been bugging me. Is that it? So much confusion, so little mind. Bobaloo is curious..............

Claney

...or the "olo" are not letters, but numbers. Hmmmmm

A rose by any other name

This is pretty random, but Manuel Neuer is Germany's Goalkeeper. His name is abbreviated Ma. Neuer. And his nickname is "The Horse" Ma. Neuer. That is total BS. Of course his last name is pronounced "Noyer."

Individual Spring 1990 shows available for download?

Do we know if more than the entire box and the Branford show is available for individual purchase? I want several of the shows with a Branford hardcopy but not necessarily a complete run...

Zuckfun

Very interesting! But I don't think it's BS. HS, maybe.

call me old fashioned but....

dantian

Dantian, that's it! You've figured out the code. I can't reveal what I now realize though, it would not be fair. PS - “If you go flying back through time, and you see somebody else flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid eye contact” - Jack Handy PPS - Cosmicbadger - I think Peace, Love, and Understanding are freakin' hilarious.

@cosmicbadger

Great tune! sort of bang it out on my acoustic from time to time

had to do it, great pop song mtv...

Look really hard...

...at Bolo's avatar, and you can see (in VERY tiny print) "9/14/82" !

@owlshead

nice pick

@Jackstrawdavect

DUDE! I got your PM.I have what you're looking for. 1 left. Check PM for my direct email and info... check SOON though....

look really hard...

...at anything and you can see anything. In tiny print. I'm really liking the new Jerry Band release. Wonderful music for a long summers day and night.

@Star Dark

Looks more like 7/10/81 to me. :-D

Claney

I've finished translating the rest of it. Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, it's... it's a cookbook!

LOL dantian

cue Twilight Zone theme

Sound Check

So, as we sit twiddling our thumbs in anticipation of DaP 11... In heavy rotation: Sturgill Simpson's "Metamodern" Howlin' Brothers' "Howl" Rodney Crowell's debut Hey - music beyond the Dead. Whodathunk?

Hey Fennario - how does JGBv4 compare to Pure Jerry Warner?

Fennario, How does the JGB Vol 4 compare to the Pure Jerry Warner Theatre Release? I love the Warner version of Mission - just bursting of energy and my wife loves Midnight Moonlight, so the second disc gets a lot of rotation in the car. Trying to figure where to spend my grateful music dollar... Music in play: Box TOO, JGB Vol4, GDMovie Soundtrack, SSDD, new CSNY box, Led Zep remasters, E72 boxset - Love it all, but can't get it all. Listening to the Spring 90 shows from bttree/archive, digging what I'm hearing thus far...

Pure Jerry

I missed out on the Pure Jerry which is one reason this release makes me so happy. One caveat: It's missing the last few minutes of Midnight Moonlight according to the small print on the CD case if that matters to anyone (tape apparently ran out). I'm sure it does matter to some of you :) IMHO It's worth it for the piano playing alone. Keith and Ozzie must have been competing for Jerry's approval!

Sounds like...

...it might matter to your wife, huh?

Actually...

it says "the first few minutes". My eyes are horrible...double vision.

Read it again...

...first few "measures"!

Nope...

It's the end that's missing. The song ends abruptly. Pretty ugly actually. Unless I have a defective CD?

heavy rotation

Cy Dune - "Shake"Wooden Wand - "AZAG TOTH" People of the North - "Judge A Man By His Fruits" William Tyler - "Blue Ash Montgomery" M. Geddes Gengras - "Ishi" Ghost - "Snuffbox Immanence" When the Sun Goes Down Vol.1 - "Walk Right In: The Secret History Of Rock 'n' Roll GD - "Formerly the Warlocks"

@boblopes

If you're thinking of the CSNY box, I'd say go for it. It's fantastic. Sure, it was cleaned up a bit by Nash, but the music is phenomenal. It's a nice portrait of the tour. The single disc version at Best Buy isn't too shabby a sampler, but the full three set summary is worth the cash. I've had it in since I bought it last week.

CSNY

I bought the single disc from Amazon and it came with Auto Rip. The auto rip included all 40 tracks - YMMV of course.

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