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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

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July 13, 2014 - 7:52pm

#1361

takimoto

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Spring 1990 / Advice on CWI

First of all, I see a lot of posts where folks are complaining that other people are "whining". I do see an occasional whine here and there but not much. Its an internet forum ... the point is for people to voice their opinions. If someone simply says "i'm not buying the release as its too much cash" ... that is not someone whining and they are just telling us all what they think. And, that to me is valuable information. I don't know why but I wanted to comment on this matter. Now, turning to Spring 1990 Too. I am not a completist and I don't feel the need to buy all releases. I have a decent amount of later era Dead (warlocks, buffalo, RT, etc). For me, that is enough. I reach for that later era of the Dead maybe 20% of the time. The other 80% of the time, i'm listening to late 60's and 70's. So, I find the price of this new offering simply too expensive based on the amount of times I expect to listen to it. I do agree with others, a box set of $100 or under would have been much more appealing to me and at that price range, I may be bought it. I am certainly not rich but if I HAD to have this release, I could spend the money for it. My lovely wife wouldn't be thrilled but she would be ok with it (eventually). So, not complaining or whining ... just letting you all know my opinion on this. I find it interesting to hear others view on this ... so here is mine. Its not that I don't like late era Dead, I do. In fact, there are a lot of times when its really hits the spot. I actually like Brent's era a lot. But, I just tend to reach for 60's and 70's more. That all being said, I may pick up the stand alone Marsalis show. Also, was looking at the Terrapin release and now its gone. So, was now thinking of picking up Crimson, White and Indigo. I read some reviews on that release that weren't good. Can someone give me some feedback good or bad on that CWI release? I actually have the Buffalo release which was few days before and I like it very much. How does CWI compare to Buffalo? How was band playing (was it a good show) and how was sound quality? thanks
July 13, 2014 - 7:52pm

#1362

takimoto

Joined:
April 12, 2014

Spring 1990 / Advice on CWI

First of all, I see a lot of posts where folks are complaining that other people are "whining". I do see an occasional whine here and there but not much. Its an internet forum ... the point is for people to voice their opinions. If someone simply says "i'm not buying the release as its too much cash" ... that is not someone whining and they are just telling us all what they think. And, that to me is valuable information. I don't know why but I wanted to comment on this matter. Now, turning to Spring 1990 Too. I am not a completist and I don't feel the need to buy all releases. I have a decent amount of later era Dead (warlocks, buffalo, RT, etc). For me, that is enough. I reach for that later era of the Dead maybe 20% of the time. The other 80% of the time, i'm listening to late 60's and 70's. So, I find the price of this new offering simply too expensive based on the amount of times I expect to listen to it. I do agree with others, a box set of $100 or under would have been much more appealing to me and at that price range, I may be bought it. I am certainly not rich but if I HAD to have this release, I could spend the money for it. My lovely wife wouldn't be thrilled but she would be ok with it (eventually). So, not complaining or whining ... just letting you all know my opinion on this. I find it interesting to hear others view on this ... so here is mine. Its not that I don't like late era Dead, I do. In fact, there are a lot of times when its really hits the spot. I actually like Brent's era a lot. But, I just tend to reach for 60's and 70's more. That all being said, I may pick up the stand alone Marsalis show. Also, was looking at the Terrapin release and now its gone. So, was now thinking of picking up Crimson, White and Indigo. I read some reviews on that release that weren't good. Can someone give me some feedback good or bad on that CWI release? I actually have the Buffalo release which was few days before and I like it very much. How does CWI compare to Buffalo? How was band playing (was it a good show) and how was sound quality? thanks
July 13, 2014 - 7:37pm

#1363

FennarioXRDS

Joined:
May 4, 2014

Physical Product

It doesn't seem that vinyl is dying out. Might be just a fad though. But physical media with digital info? They're obviously trying to keep the "pay for music" business model alive with limited edition pre-orders and box sets that appeal to collectors. I don't know how well that's working, I can't imagine that replica tickets are the answer. Maybe limited edition art prints and so on? I think the future is gonna be in streaming, though. A future where you don't get physical media or digital files without paying a huge "piracy" premium.
July 13, 2014 - 7:22pm

#1364

FennarioXRDS

Joined:
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@jrf68@hotmail.com

Please check your PM's.
July 13, 2014 - 7:13pm

#1365

jvanderveen

Joined:
September 18, 2007

The future of physical product

Great discussion here about physical product versus downloads. Maybe I'm just old and in the way, and, admittedly, I lost my powers to see the future around the time that I stopped doing hallucinogens at Dead shows 20 some years ago, but I think that predictions of physical releases ending after 2015 are a bit premature. The fact that collectors like us can purchase the physical product and still take the music with us on our iPhones and such, I think, bodes well for the future of the CD. While the decline is inevitable and has already begun, it's not going to disappear that quickly. I'd be interested to hear how many people chose the download option for May '77 for a savings of, what, $40 or something?
July 13, 2014 - 7:00pm

#1366

WharfratWhitey

Joined:
May 19, 2013

Releases

This thing is gonna sell out. No worries there. And no worries about stuff not selling out. The folks at Rhino take care of us and themselves. Every release seems to have an orb floating around it. Good and a little less than good, but never bad. The orb for this Spring 90 TOO might be the timing. Going back to February-DaP10, April-RSD Hampton '79 & Garcia, May-DaP11 w/bonus, July-JGB, Spring 90 Too, 3/29/90,Meet Up AT Movies, August-DaP12. I know they haven't got anything to do with Jerry releases but man there is a lot of new stuff out there. They know the demographic. Is it overkill?
July 13, 2014 - 6:46pm

#1367

reijo29

Joined:
June 18, 2012

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July 13, 2014 - 6:43pm

#1368

brianhahne

Joined:
June 5, 2007

Confused...

I understand the whining about limited editions, but come on guys, but nothing in this world is infinite. I thought Dicks Picks were going to be available forever. In Best Buy even... now cd stores are dead, best buy doesn't hardly carry Skeletons From the Closet, let alone Dicks Picks...2 years ago I had #14, 15 and 16 only. I figured one day I'd go out and get the rest. When I realized they were going the way of all good things, I went out and it took 2 years but I got them all. Winterland 77 came out in 2009. 5 years later, you really can't bitch that it sold out, and expect it to carry much weight. Slam me if you will, but I'm sorry, we all complain when the things we love go away, but when we miss out, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Nothing lasts forever. Jerry didn't, Winterland 77 didn't, and Spring 1990 (2) won't. Regardless of whether I buy 1 copy or 5 for selling later,... everything sells out or goes out of print. Save now if you want something... if you can't afford it, prioritize and pay for food and stuff first. There's enough free music out there to enjoy from the band... I dunno, I mean, I missed out on bonus discs. So now I'm paying $100 to get some of them. But I'm a completist. But it's my own fault. I'm not bitching... as much as I'd like to...
July 13, 2014 - 6:37pm

#1369

estimated-eyes

Joined:
December 31, 2008

50th anniversary

Here is what I want for the 50th anniversary. Video footage and lots of it with great sound. What I want most is a c. 1969-71 show with Pigpen in his prime, doing Lovelight, Good Lovin' and others (Hard to Handle in 1971). For those of us too young to see it, I have long wanted to actually SEE Pigpen doing Lovelight, doing his rap and prowling the stage. Other than that, Alpine 89 box of DVD and multi-track mix, please. Interesting thread re: giving Spacebro a box. It is a personal decision for all how they want to donate their money. Some would rather help an individual while others give to large-scale charitable organizations. I am not going to judge how people give their funds, to each their own.
July 13, 2014 - 6:32pm

#1370

Kjohnduff1

Joined:
November 2, 2010

Downloads...

May 1977 took a longer time to sell out because they offered more physical copies and they also had a download option.Since they are offering a download option on this box as well, they probably thought that a lot of people would go that route and not shell out the extra dough for the tagible box. Seems to me that they learned buying habits from the May '77 box.

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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

@brianhahne

Thank you. I think?

Dicks...

I brought out Dicks Volume 2 this past weekend. Short but definitely very sweet... The Dark Star>Jam is one of my all-time favorites. Also recently listened to England '74. Can't remember the number off top of my head. Very good.

Dead start 1965?

I also have always been led to believe tht the band we all know & love so much got there start in 1965. So imagine my surprise when I found this pic while looking at some old photos of the Fillmore Westhttp://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0001/769/MI0001769217.jpg?pa… It clearly is labeled Oct. 23, 1964! Can anyone comment on this? Rock on

fennario?

you're welcome? I think?not sure why i'm saying you're welcome... but you're welcome

@brianhahne

I think just placed an order with you on ebay. Didn't know it was you until I got the reply.

Hbob Photo

Don't know where you came across that photo, but I wouldn't put too much stock in the printed info at the bottom. The photo itself looks to be from a 1990 show, and look closely, there are TWO Bobs in it! Fairly easy to type onto a photograph these days. Check your Deadbase. No shows in October '64.

@ wharfrattx

Thanks Wharf. The photo certainly confused me. Guess I am too gullible! I trust people too much perhaps.

as others have said, please take the squabbling and name-calling

to private messages, if you really feel the need to continue in this vein. Reposting PMs in public: please don't do it again. Thank you. mod hat off etc.

Dead Start

Look at the setlist on that bootleg. UJB PITB Ripple It sure isn't from the 60's.

RE hbob1995 - Dead start 1965

Well, the first Playing in the Band was 2-8-71, and the last King Bee was 12-15-71 (with PigPen). So, if this is all from one show, it would need to be between those dates. I checked and cannot find any shows (that we know of) that have all of the songs in the list for this CD at one show. It is probably songs culled from shows between those two dates. If anyone else wants to check, the song list on the cd is: Uncle John's Band NFA-GDTRFB Morning Dew Playing in the Band Ripple Sugar Magnolia Casey Jones Me & Bobby McGee King Bee. Interesting puzzle, though :)

fennario....

oh you did... ok? Then that's your road trips i just put in the mailbox. just a heads up... hit me up ahead-of-time next time via email.. I sell stuff there, but if you contact me, i will knock money off it if I know you're from here on this msg board.. can't do it after the fact though... but in the case of some folks here who buy a lot, it adds up

marye

Thank You. You can keep your mod hat on.

glass1990...

Got your PM... you got one back. I'll send you my email too.

Wow...

That was quite a morning read over my yogurt and granola. The best part of this cyber-community is that it helps me to stay connected to a great time in my life. The music and conversation sustain me on many fronts. Even the arguments and diatribes have their place (had some very intense discussions in the hotels, arenas, campgrounds, etc). The reality for all of us tied to this band is that we share a passion willingly with others. Some of us are nuttier than others (why I have the same show in four media formats or five different recordings is very hard to explain to the uninitiated). To get too serious or angry about any of this makes no sense. The music and memories should transport us to higher places in our minds. Sure it is personal, very very personal. In sharing the experience we need to give each other the space and respect we would give our neighbors at a show. Experienced plenty of true idiots there ( getting pissed on at calaveras 87 or having my girlfriend's head split open by a quarter thrown from the upper reaches at Nassau 85, trampling gate crashers, etc.) I like to think of these forums as being free of the idiots, a gathering of folks into it for the right reasons. I hope we can get back to this place. Thanks to Mary E for cleaning up the mess. Let's try to leave nothing but educated passionate footprints.

Wow...

Incoming

Garcia Live, Vol 4. Start the spin this evenin'. BTW-saw Robert Hunter is appearing at Newport Folk Festival. Saw him last time around in Boston-great show. Listened to the CSNY 74 1 disc compilation from the new box set. Nice versions of some of the more well known songs on this 1 disc version. Ironically it makes me apprec. the Dead all that much more-less hype, more jams, more chances taken, less politics, more timeless IMHO.

@Oxford88

Well said.

loves me some marye

Mary Ramon(e) Tommy Ramone passed recently...hooray for the Ramones! or, Gabba Gabba Hey! Revolver sounds REALLY good right now :))) I recommmmmmmmmmmmmmend Love or Confusion by Jimi H Exp. Wanna blow your mind? Read Beloved by Toni Morrison. CREEPY. HARTFORD 83!!!

hey Marye, Seth H. is correct...

you missed the original post that started it all...so, yea that should be removed as well... peace to you, Brother Seth... ♤

BlairJ versus BigDonnie

Does anyone remember the Blair J and Big Donnie smackdown on the Europe 72 thread a few years ago? That was something to behold.Speaking of BlairJ, you never see his postings anymore. Could BlairJ be posing as Bolo24? Just wondering.

Allman

That does make a lot of sense, indeed. Oh that mysterious Bolo...

New Jerry Release...

UnderTheVolcano: You are in for a treat... I was blown away by this release.The set list looks very ordinary but the performance is awesome. The sound quality is top notch. Love the background vocals with both Donna and Maria...

Bolo Jackson

Yep. Bolo, same first letter as Blair. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet. 24, or 2 + 4, = 6 6 + 6 = 12. Subtract 12 from the number of letters in the alphabet (26) and you get 14. Take the 4 from Bolo's name, and subtract it from 14, and you get 10 (J!) It's obvious! (The "olo" is just there to confuse us)

stop

Who cares who or what message started it? Please respect a very good moderator in Marye and just let the back-and-forth end. Marye does a great job and rarely gets involved in these spats between members. She isn't banning you guys, just saying cut it out. Now, where is the DaP11 announcement? The timing of this box announcement really will leave DaP11 little space of its own. I am sure it will get the love it deserves, but I wonder if some non-subscribers will have to forgo purchasing because of this $250 box already announced. Lastly, release of individual shows would be fantastic. My guess on the E72 individual releases is that there was a quick demand for the music-only box, but that did not live up the hype. So, they have them in-stock now. Personally, I love that the E72 tour is available individually-- I didn't get the box, but have been chipping away at shows. Someday, maybe I will have the tour...

Avatar confusion

Does bolo24 have part of the cover art for DaP11 up as an avatar?Saw it this morning and it's been bugging me. Is that it? So much confusion, so little mind. Bobaloo is curious..............

Claney

...or the "olo" are not letters, but numbers. Hmmmmm

A rose by any other name

This is pretty random, but Manuel Neuer is Germany's Goalkeeper. His name is abbreviated Ma. Neuer. And his nickname is "The Horse" Ma. Neuer. That is total BS. Of course his last name is pronounced "Noyer."

Individual Spring 1990 shows available for download?

Do we know if more than the entire box and the Branford show is available for individual purchase? I want several of the shows with a Branford hardcopy but not necessarily a complete run...

Zuckfun

Very interesting! But I don't think it's BS. HS, maybe.

call me old fashioned but....

dantian

Dantian, that's it! You've figured out the code. I can't reveal what I now realize though, it would not be fair. PS - “If you go flying back through time, and you see somebody else flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid eye contact” - Jack Handy PPS - Cosmicbadger - I think Peace, Love, and Understanding are freakin' hilarious.

@cosmicbadger

Great tune! sort of bang it out on my acoustic from time to time

had to do it, great pop song mtv...

Look really hard...

...at Bolo's avatar, and you can see (in VERY tiny print) "9/14/82" !

@owlshead

nice pick

@Jackstrawdavect

DUDE! I got your PM.I have what you're looking for. 1 left. Check PM for my direct email and info... check SOON though....

look really hard...

...at anything and you can see anything. In tiny print. I'm really liking the new Jerry Band release. Wonderful music for a long summers day and night.

@Star Dark

Looks more like 7/10/81 to me. :-D

Claney

I've finished translating the rest of it. Don't get on that ship! The rest of the book, it's... it's a cookbook!

LOL dantian

cue Twilight Zone theme

Sound Check

So, as we sit twiddling our thumbs in anticipation of DaP 11... In heavy rotation: Sturgill Simpson's "Metamodern" Howlin' Brothers' "Howl" Rodney Crowell's debut Hey - music beyond the Dead. Whodathunk?

Hey Fennario - how does JGBv4 compare to Pure Jerry Warner?

Fennario, How does the JGB Vol 4 compare to the Pure Jerry Warner Theatre Release? I love the Warner version of Mission - just bursting of energy and my wife loves Midnight Moonlight, so the second disc gets a lot of rotation in the car. Trying to figure where to spend my grateful music dollar... Music in play: Box TOO, JGB Vol4, GDMovie Soundtrack, SSDD, new CSNY box, Led Zep remasters, E72 boxset - Love it all, but can't get it all. Listening to the Spring 90 shows from bttree/archive, digging what I'm hearing thus far...

Pure Jerry

I missed out on the Pure Jerry which is one reason this release makes me so happy. One caveat: It's missing the last few minutes of Midnight Moonlight according to the small print on the CD case if that matters to anyone (tape apparently ran out). I'm sure it does matter to some of you :) IMHO It's worth it for the piano playing alone. Keith and Ozzie must have been competing for Jerry's approval!

Sounds like...

...it might matter to your wife, huh?

Actually...

it says "the first few minutes". My eyes are horrible...double vision.

Read it again...

...first few "measures"!

Nope...

It's the end that's missing. The song ends abruptly. Pretty ugly actually. Unless I have a defective CD?

heavy rotation

Cy Dune - "Shake"Wooden Wand - "AZAG TOTH" People of the North - "Judge A Man By His Fruits" William Tyler - "Blue Ash Montgomery" M. Geddes Gengras - "Ishi" Ghost - "Snuffbox Immanence" When the Sun Goes Down Vol.1 - "Walk Right In: The Secret History Of Rock 'n' Roll GD - "Formerly the Warlocks"

@boblopes

If you're thinking of the CSNY box, I'd say go for it. It's fantastic. Sure, it was cleaned up a bit by Nash, but the music is phenomenal. It's a nice portrait of the tour. The single disc version at Best Buy isn't too shabby a sampler, but the full three set summary is worth the cash. I've had it in since I bought it last week.

CSNY

I bought the single disc from Amazon and it came with Auto Rip. The auto rip included all 40 tracks - YMMV of course.

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