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  • PeggyO
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    Well, the Spring Tour 2009 is in the bag and was definitely one for the books! That's for sure. I know a lot of people might think the Dead are dead without certain members, and to be honest, the last couple of tours the Dead have done were great experiences for me, but I always felt like people were "sitting in" to fill some big shoes left behind. Even Warren, in 2004, felt like he was filling in. So I went to the LA Forum show expecting what we got in 04. Oh how wrong I was! That first throat grabbing chord of the show was like the band was saying to everyone in the Forum, "Listen up people! We're not f*#cking around here, we're here to play so let's get down to it!" And then BOOM, right into that unreal VLB groove, with a beat that you just had to move to. I have been doing tours since the late 70's/early 80's and to my ears, this band has never been better. On the one hand, they're tighter, yet they're also looser. I cant explain it, and honestly, that's about the best one can say about the Dead when they're really "on", "well, I cant explain it man, you just have to experience it..." ;) I've been keeping up with the Tour, listening to the shows online as the Tour progressed and the first half was just okay for me. But in LA it felt like something happened that night and everything the boys had been striving for just all fell into place that night. The Forum felt like an old school East Coast indoor arena show, complete with rabid, hardcore heads that were so grateful to be back at the party again. This was not a "best of" tour. This was a "here's who we are now, dig it" tour, and man did I love what I heard on the West Coast leg of this Tour. That night in LA, I realized that Warren and Jeff no longer felt like they were filling in for anyone anymore. The *were* the Dead just as much as Bobby, Phil, Billy or Mickey are. To me, the Dead has always been a band in flux. There have been so many iterations of them I've sort of lost count. So to those who lament a Jerryless Dead, all I can say is, you don't know what you're missing. Sure I miss Jerry and I miss Brent. But the Dead as they are right now? Sound the best I've ever heard them and they're not stale, they're still out there pushing the envelope and really, isn't that what this is all about? So yeah, I no longer get weepy when I hear Brokedown Palace or Ripple or Box of Rain. I just revel in the fact that I get to experience this amazing thing we call The Dead, once again. And I am truly Grateful. One final comment...It felt so great to experience Shakedown once again and the lot scenes in LA and the Gorge were excellent. Like some upthread said, I found my self also saying things, and using expressions that I haven't used in a long time...It felt good to have the tribe back together again, didn't it?!
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    My sentiments exactly. It was a bittersweet night. Very cool to stay up until 3 am+ listening to the whole show, with great interviews and commentary thrown in during the set break. But it was so great to back out there catching 4 shows, eagerly anticipating seeing the setlists of the shows I didn't catch each morning, listening to the downloads etc. I'm going to miss all that. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks the music has changed/evolved in a great way....new sounds, tunes I never thought I'd get to hear live, Rhythm Devils taking it to new heights each night etc etc. Warren and Jeff are as good as it gets in the post Jerry/Brent/Keith/Pigpen era, which is to say they're both amazing musicians who fit right into the fabric of the band and helped to make the magic each night. Jeff is a monster on the keys and Warren managed to channel the ghosts of Jerry/Brent/Pigpen in his paying and singing while keeping it new and fresh and his own as well. Branford's interview during the set break was spot on: they're older, they've each gone on to do new things are are coming at playing together from a new angle, pushing the boundaries and not just treading the worn path. By the time they got to the Gorge, they seem to have all completely melded musically and got the bugs all worked out. We may not see them out on the road two thirds of the year anymore....at least as The Dead, but I gotta think the fun they seemed to be having along with the embrace of the fans will pull them back for another go around or two down the road. And yes, it was really cool to hear Mickey thank the crew and bring them out onstage for some well deserved applause. I've seen them with Jerry from the early 80's onward, seen Phil and his band, Ratdog, the Dead 2003/4 and I can say I had as good a time at these shows and I've had at any. All different, all excellent and all the music of the Grateful Dead which is what it's all about. Thanks guys!
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    Not sure if this is the appropriate forum to use but I'm sure Marye will let me know. I just went to the GDTS TOO website for the first time in years to see about Ratdog tix and was amazed at what i found. It prompted me to send them the following... Please don't take offense. Just a little constructive criticism. It's been many years since I've visited your site. Back in the day I thought it was the greatest thing ever. The days of calling the hotline every day sometimes multiple times were over, but come on guy's, your site is really quite primitive by today's standards. To my dismay, when I tried to fill out the credit card form I discovered it wasn't interactive. I consider myself a caveman for not having a printer/copier/scanner combo, but times are tough. I don't even know where to find a fax machine. Aren't we supposed to be a paperless society by now? This planet needs all the trees she can produce. The decorative envelopes are still very cool, and should be an option, but how about an online interactive version of the envelope? I'm sure there are thousands of heads out there into web design who would be willing to collaborate and put something together for you. I'm not a designer myself but I'm willing to help wherever I can. Just something to consider. Peace and much thanks for all you do. So this would be a shout out to all of you webmasters out there if they are receptive. I know youre out there, a simple Google search for anything Dead related shows me there's some mad skills out there. I have not recieved a response yet, but when I do I'll post it.
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    Maybe I should of gone for the CDs too!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. she is doing much better. it was an asthma and panic attack type combo, scary stuff. my CD isnt a download, it was a CD i paid for, at the show, they was recording off the mixing boards, and pressing official show CD's on the spot for $25, with show date, and place, on official The Dead CDs. it is why i dont want the download to replace my CD, my puter dont have good speakers, and i only listen to my CDs in my car, or my headset CD player. i cant reburn 1 on my puter, and it isnt the official CD with the printed faces on them.
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    Chicago was incredible... 20 years since since my love's and mine last show but with one more in tow - our 11 year old son whose favorite song right now is Throwing Stones. All with a different yet better spirit. The magic was back. It does remind me of reading a book where you don't understand the words and you go back later and understand it even more after life experience. I started reading the book long ago and loved it - and It means even more now. The shows brought smiles, healing and joy. Peace Mike P.S. Please Tour again !!!! - You are beautiful together ! Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there
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    pm me the details. We're working on this one.
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    I feel the same way, could never have said it any better. Great post!
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    thor369 - I'm still waiting for my two Chicago show downloads that were ordered May 3rd! Hope your wife is better. I thought all the shows were just awesome. Thanks guys for giving us the magic again. Sure would be nice to hear the Chicago shows and relive some nice memories again.
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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30+ years of buying tix and supporting the band and this tour/ticket scheme is bullshit. Jerry's ashes are rolling over in the Ganges River. They announce two prices for tix -- expensive and super expensive, but don't tell you what kind of seats you get for the extra cash. Unless, you buy a VIP package for several hundred dollars which gets you a ticket near the band. Only the rich folks have a chance to get good seats?! that is f...ing bullshit. Hate to say it but I think they will fail to sell out many of the shows in the northeast, and based on the way they are doing this, that is exactly what is deserved. It's great that they are rolling it out again, just can't believe they sold out basic fairness and screwed their most loyal, longtime fans in the process.
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I used to make fun of the Eagles and CSN&Y for their rip off prices. It's sad the boys have joined that group. Part of the fun of seeing them was that they were not like any other band.
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yeah such is life to have and have not. whatever happened to just bein happy to be in. hopefully some of us can get stubbed down. remember that! i just want to dance
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I don't know, but I'm guessing that the band and even the extended family has relatively little to do with ticket prices. Live concerts are a major worldwide industry. While I suspect that the band could arrange a tour of small venues, I'm not sure the tix would be a lot cheaper and they might even be higher. The stadium gigs allow big crowds and theoretically allow the maximum attendance (notwithstanding the costs). They would have to play a month long run at the Fillmore to allow the same crowd as a single shoreline show and a month at the Fillmore isn't real likely. I wish the tickets were cheap and plentiful; I'm baffled by the online purchase system and I've got my fingers crossed that I can make it work in the morning. I wish Jerry was singing and Brent was playing the keys, but it is what it is. Save the griping for the government... G
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I have used music today several times and they do charge an extra service charge, also beware of the mailing options for they automatically put you on the most expensive mailing option but you can change that option but you have to click that option, there is no access code or password, all you have to do is registor and then when you go back to the site tomorrow all you have to do is sign in with the password you made. This is not rocket science and very user friendly.
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I at first was a little upset about prices but hey, what the hell, we only live once, time to go and shake our bones and have some fun!!!
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I didnt see no stankin' acess code when I signed up?
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The VIP "Consider it Dan" business is total bullshit. Who's idea was it to give the best tickets in the house to only those who could pony up $500-$1500?!?! That's where I used to dance. I'm rethinking buying any dates on this tour and I know I'm not alone. When the tour was announced some of us Fair Family started putting together a school bus trip back east. Furthur III. After people caught the VIP thing (Dollars for Dan) we've had half our crew bail out and the bus is staying in the barn. A real loss for the lot. But that's not what it's about anymore is it. Good luck with your business. Formerly Grateful, TheEnjoyer
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There is no acces code, when you signed up you gace them a username and password, that is all you need to get tix!!!
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The wait has been tooooooooooooo long! But only one SoCal show?? C'mon guys, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee play more! What if I can't get a ticket?
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Big day tomorrow. Good luck.
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I was thinking the same thing on the package deals...Those are rediculous in price and don't even come close to justifying the perks included...I am content with lawn seats @ Shoreline and would honestly be in the area where I think will be the most enjoyable and totally define a Dead Experience...No stuffy reserved seats for me...I want to be me
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so if i mail order tomorrow wth gdts and theres online sales, whats the deal. are some reserved for mailorder or if online sells out mailorder is screwed?id rather mail order and spend less money
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First off, I'm a bit disappointed to say the least in the bands decision to rake it in on this tour. When they toured back in '03 and '04, the prices were no where near what they are now. 5 years pass and the prices have doubled. WTF?? I know there are going to be some good shows and we are all happy to hear about them performing together again and making music, but come on. What I want to know is if Bobby is going to sing "We used to play for life, now we play for silver" during Jack Straw. Really a shame guys. I'm happy I get to go see Billy at the Crystal with Karl Denson here in Portland for $25. Just one more note here too. When The Who tried to charge a shitload of money for their show about a year ago and no one bought enough tickets, they lowered their price the week of the show to $25. If we all said sorry, but, earth to the band, we are in a recession and some of us lost a shitload of money or jobs recently and we're not buying $100 tickets, perhaps they might lower the prices too. I'll pay $50 or $60, but not $100. Too rich for my blood, and I love you guys, seriously.
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hey my wife says i need to stop this so goodluck to everyone tommorrow.....i have my fingers crossed......
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So I'm just wondering how much a veggie burrito or grilled cheese will cost on this tour? If its $100 per ticket, I think $8 bucks for a grilled cheese is fair game. Thats about fair, right guys?
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Yes, they do, to the place that was built for them. SIlly question: will this sell out right away?? Hey, the new guy from New Mexico needs to know! Hope to see ya there.
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The above post meaning Mtn View on May 10, of course. Mother's Day shows are fun....
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The band can control it's own actions. It abides in all this. With full knowledge. Speaks for itself. Indeed...it's all too clear we're on our own....
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I finally got an e-mail from this web-site with some minor tour info and a few videos..I realize that I have been acknowldged and will get the updated info..Check your e-mails to make sure you joined in correctly
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It helps to hear/see that others are in the same boat. I signed up ages ago but when I checked recently I couldn't log in so I set up a new account wondering what info I might have missed and lo and behold sounds like not much - can't sleep don't know what to do tomorrow mail/call in
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Anyone have any idea why the difference in price of tix?I can barely afford the "cheap" ones, but was just wondering if there is seating and then a GA? Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right...
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I'm only on page 52 after reading these posts after work.....if you're really a true deadhead and want to know what everythings about, I'd suggest.....take a friggin chill pill brothers and sisters.......these people have been long time fans that run this site......if you don't think you'll get tickets than you won't....but if you do, then welcome to the BUS. Relax, believe in changing the world and know that only KIND people ride this bus........I am elated that all these youngin's want in, but choose to respect kind people and respect your elders! Thank you, Scott _________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Finally,Please don't disgust me with your critiques of this site....if you've been anywhat coherent, you would know, the grass is NOT always greener no where you go. I feel like I should bitch that I'm not home, but I read this and wonder.....WHY ARE ALL YOU PHISH phans knockin what they know we all laid you down for you? Believe me, I grew up in a place near the Golden Palace, Les was still moshin in Pinole......you blue collard tweeekers are not going to run this town.....Stop thinking scalp, and start opening your minds.....TUNE IN AND TURN OUT......I wasn't even born then, but I know the people that were._Please don't bring your negative vibes my way. For all the true heads.....don't forget to think of Me and My Uncle. ________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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I'm so stoked for this. I've seen all the guys in their 'solo' ventures, but this is very special for me. And it finally pays having a second shift job!!! Don't go in until 3 in the afternoon, so I can wake up at my normal time, buy some tickets and relish.
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bmet01I live in Florida the weirdest state in the union and no shows anywhere near here unless you count one in NC thats a long way for an old deadhead like me that gave up his car last year i guess i should be happy they are touring again I AM! i just wish they would play in Florida but long live the Grateful fucking Dead i say.
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ok,thanks, man. lost my watch. ( - ; peace.
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ok,thanks, man. lost my watch. ( - ; peace.
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thankx, man. lost my watch. ( - ; AND THE RACE IS ON!!! good luck getting seats folks!
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looks like mail order through gdts has some cheaper seats for sale, but those are NOT listed on the internet sales site.... for folks trying to save some cash, might be better to do mail order for some venues; for example meadowlands. peace.
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Somebody posted a seating chart from Nassau , all the seats under 100 were behind the stage.I dont know if they all are , but I assume the view is obstructed in some way. I think you gotta pay up , unless you wanna risk staring at a Steel Girder all night.
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My company's content filter may block my access to the ticket site! I can get in to set up an account through the link here, but when I click on "Ticket information" I'm getting a "blocked" (and "you've been reported") message. I hope I can worm my way into the site from another page....
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I've got a meeting in 15 minutes, but I should be back by the time the ticket pre-sale begins. If I don't get back to this board before then, good luck to everyone. I hope you all get the tickets you need for the shows you want. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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Philly mail order (GDTS TOO) has $69 tix and $99 tix. Internet pre-sale (Dead.Net) has only $95.50 tix. Is this right? I can save $30 per tic through mail order only? These hundred dollar price tags suck. Two of my old tour brothers and I were going to hit both Philly shows. Revisit the old days. One of them dropped off because he's disgusted with the ticket prices, the other one is currently out of work on disability with a family to support and he just can't swing 100 bones for a show. I'm trying to work something out so the three of us can see just one show. If we can save $30 per tic through mail order, I can probably get them both back on the bus. Can anyone shed some light on why mail order has two price tiers and online pre-order only the upper tier? Thanks brothas and sistas... Searching for the Sound
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I saw that too. I might just go for mail order, I have to consult the peeps and see what they wanna do.
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Make that money$$ boys but I can't spring 100 bucks for a ticket....Not to be a dick but come on...I got laid off on xmas eve WTF and now you guys are charging 100 per ticket!!
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Some people are really struggling to make ends!Here in Michigan unemployment is 9.8% I also assume a few are Dead Heads
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How does one purchase tickets today during the pre-sale?
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What a joke, I thought the Dead were all about bucking the trend and were huge proponents of "change" as evidenced by their recent Obama benefit. Obviously the only thing that has changed about the Dead is their hunger for more money. Thanks alot for letting half of your fanbase down guys, most people I know who wanted to hit some shows now can't afford it.
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I guess the bus needs an overhaul. But seriously, I wonder how much more it costs for a band to play a place like the Spectrum or the Pepsi Center compared to what it cost 5 years ago. This may not be all on the band. Even if it is then so be it. They've given us a lifetime of good times and good music and it may be The Last Time and all you people complaining can do is say that they've sold out... that they've money hungry and they let us down... I know this was probably really bad timing with the economy and all but EVERYTHING costs more than it did 5 years ago. I'm barely scrapping to get 1 ticket. But I'm not going to dog on the band!
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Today is a good day for sure! Let's all put our good energy out there for the website gods...The ticketing site is not very responsive now and only half the country is awake. So let's all band together and think good thoughts!
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The boys should call this tour "All About the Benjamins" With unemployment at an all time high in the country, home foreclosures and everything else, I can't believe the ticket prices.... Hope they don't mind playing for half-full venues.... Never thought I'd be off the bus cuz of prices....oh well...
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I understand it takes alot to move a show from town to town. I also know it's nice to get paid to do something you love to do. For me and I know 95% of Deadheads do tour for the love of the music, not for the love of money. Sure we sell things on lot, but that is to get to the next show, not to retire on. If you are thinking we need to make the money as fast as we can, STOP IT. We are always going to be here for you because we really Love You. I wanted to do Tour again like I did last time, but now will do maybe a couple shows. I will not be buying the tix thru you, but on the lot for $20.00 like so may times before. If I dont get in oh well, theres always the tapes to get me thru. Please don't forget WE DO LOVE YOU "It's like a mighty melody that rings down from the sky"
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People should have seen this coming. I am sure the guys are invested in the same markets that most people are that just took a big dump. Surely they can't play until they are 100. I am disappointed and have cut my tour down to only two shows, but I will get the "price 1" level tickets and hope that I can see the rhythym devils and some bobby kicks...but I doubt it.
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Does anyone know if the Nassau Coliseu show is going to be all GA or are they just doing GA tix on the presale today?
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For $100, they'll be doing it without me. I'll wait to see Phil or Ratdog for $60 at a club, rather than spend $100 for the distant arena experience. This will be the first time I am missing a "Dead" tour in 25 years. I was planning on at least three shows, and taking my wife to a couple.But times are tough, and if the band doesn't understand that, than I don't need to contribute to their pension plan. In this economy, it's absurd for them to charge that kind of money, if the arena's are making them pay that kind of overhead, than they should wait for the shed season. $200 for a pair of Dead tickets is absurd. Good luck with the tour guys, you'll need it. Bleedin' Out http://bleedinout.blogspot.com/ Punk Rock , Garage Rawk & omfug