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  • GratefulTwinz
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    I Think "the steam" needs to cool down or find somewhere else to spew negativity!!!!!
  • TigerLilly
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    Seems like you need to blow off some, but somewhere else. That shotgun quote at Hal is VERY unkind, not to mention against our good vibe way here. Yes indeedy,you're absolutely right in that we can disagree and argue and have differences of opinion, and all sorts of things here; but Hal's right-personal insults, name calling, and quoting threats like blowing Hal away are against the policy of the site that we all aggreed to when we joined here; and people will speak out against such things. ********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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    name calling and threats are not opinions, they are name calling and threats may the shell from your shotgun aimed at me turn to flowers of peace If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    Not at all offended, all's good! Don't think will change it just yet either :-D Like to be looking at who am talking too. ********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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    Phatmoe-yeah im using a wii-its not hard,just takes gettin used to-cept the damn batteries keep dyin on the wireless remote-need to get that charger!---------------OK the real reason I posted--Did anyone see the boys on utube at the ball??YIKES!! I hope they do some rehearsing before the tour cuz I gutta tell ya-I was NOT IMPRESSED!I hope what I saw/heard was mostly due to bad footage/audio.Because to be perfectly honest-they sounded terrible!maybe It was an off-night(we've all seen those)and maybe the circumstances were a little too weird for them to get into it(I HOPE)Im starting to think someone else might fit better than warren.Im sure THE DEAD will have good and bad shows-just hope my wife and I see a good one(FOR $435.00 A PAIR!!!!)tigerlily-hope you didnt take offense when I said your picture was freakin me out-I LIKE BEIN FREAKED OUT!!! smiles-G
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    On a good night it was bettern the best sex. The interplay between each other, the sometimes silent, somtimes thundering ques, the ability of any one member to lead the rest of the band down a new path with a simple phrase or chord was improvisation at its finest. Never stuctured, always right on the edge. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. On a bad night like a plane crash. Did someone say coverband??? Who else can pull off Merle Haggard and the Stones in the same set. The mix of country, folk, bluegrass, jazz, blues, and straight ahead rock and roll have never been equalled. Uncle Bobo said it best "Theyre not only the best at what they do, theyre the only ones who do what they do" And then there was the cat in the GD movie "The bottom line is quite simply stated, there is NOTHING like a Grateful Dead concert
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    Cover band???????????????
    Couldnt agree more with you fleaflicker. Late 80s into 90s and Jerrys passing were the low point for the band and the fan base. anyone thats been to a Phil or RD show in the past few years or the Dead 03, 04, can tell you when theyre in that groove its better than ever. Cover band???? Hardly!!! The fans are different too. A lot of old timers (like me) are back on the bus and the youngsters seem to have that spirit of long ago. Of course we'll never replace the 70's. "People joinin hand in hand, while the music plays the band, Lord theyre settin us on fire."
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    i appreciate your time of day to take my situation into consideration, as for me, my name is brittney, my momma calls me lola, cause im crazy and adventurous. I have never been to a dead show, but i've watched plenty on dvd and still got off just as much...im in college now its an online course for massage therapy, im into natural healing more of a holistic view on life....i believe in a higher power, i believe we all can tap into this inner power with enough meaning behind it....i go around with a smile, instead of a frown....i try to have self control over my feelings and frustrations, i've realized that if you can find entertainment out of those so called stressful situations, you wont find your self getting upset and uptight, instead loose and fun. I live in martinsburg wv i've always been a country girl. born and raised most of my family are good county folks....i was raised on a farm around horses, and i rode alot....i miss it, and hopefully oneday i will be able to raise my future kids on a green pastured farm, i know it was fun for me, and made me unique and different, it taught me responsibility, and love for my family, as well as the horses. I trained them, and it was as if we could understand each other, i fine tune myself to others feelings and pick up alot from people...i guess you could call me a people studier....if someone is feeling a certain way, i can pick up on it and feel their pain/happiness/nervousness....sometimes its not so good, thats why i try to use meditation, a sense of washing away...and letting go...I love to camp out, in fact i own a small trailer that is sitting on a piece of land near the potomac river, its acutally a big campground, its my paradise, and my get a way spot, theirs lots of woods to go hiking in, and nature to be adored, usually people ride golf carts around the park...alot of people go there too, the whole park is surrounded by the river, theres cliffs that people jump off from tehre that are 90ft from the water!! i've jumped before, i am a big dare devil....always have been since a young kid, i loved rollercoasters and bunji jumping!! i like to walk on the wild and dangerous side....i've tried and dabbled into a lot of things in my life....and i dont regret none of it....my camper is all set up, i've got grateful dead bear door beads from www.hippieshop.com also glow in the dark groovy peace signs on teh walls and ceilings...i've got blacklights disco ball...its all shagged out...and the all time greatest party spot....theres also a fire pit, thats where im usually at in the night time, if im not out skinny dippin in the river, lol...i've been swimmin on some cold nights when no one else would...lol i really do love the water especially when im in my fantasy world:) i love to have fun, and get away from reality every now and then...its a nice vacation. im very spiritual, i belive in evolution i dont really buy the whole adam and eve story...however, incase you didnt know, there was another woman created before eve...if your into that stuff....her name was lilith, and she wanted equality, half and half, man and woman....but they wouldnt have it and banished her and created eve....to me im more into the big band theory...atom and egg collide causing supernova blast, and creation of the planets...its pretty crazy how the whole thing is set up....its almost like there has to be some mastermind behind the veil...or could it just simply be natures laws???
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    HAL R and his thoughts on The Steam's post...
    "thesteam - this place is about respecting others To say "Go away little person." is not the way we talk to each other around here. We may disagree with another person but we do not insult them. Some of us try to spread good vibes around here. Are you kind? " Are you kidding? I WAS extremely kind to the person that called, The Dead, a "really good cover band". As far as your comment to me... "Are you kind?" I assume that is a quote from Uncle John's Band. Here is a quote for you as well... "If I had me a shotgun, I'd blow you straight to hell." From Candyman :) Please allow others to have opinions, even if it includes, name calling. SSSSSSSSSheesh! OK??????
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    It's BRAGGING ??? all these yrs I thought it was Bringing!! ha ha, learn something new everyday!! PEACE
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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any thoughts on the band adding a date or 2 for spring tour? looks like an open shot for you midwest heads..or up in oregon or washington,,other food for thought..It would be cool to bring Donna jean back for the tour..we saw her this summer at a festival out on long Island she was on!! she also sat in with Mickeys band,, made the set for sure.I think her vocals would add/help for this tour.. plus I miss her twirls when they went out there..after reading other folks nightmares with the pre sale.. I feel like I won a lottery prize.. 2 tix for nassau and msg,, nice seats for nassau,, so,so for the garden... still want to try for a road trip..will start collecting empty beer bottles once the snow stops... peace to all,, its good to be here talking up the band,, at this point in my life its good to be anywere...thought? opinions?....
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I won't know what seats we've got for a couple of months, but I'm patient. Do you know anything about where folks will be hanging out before/after the shows? I'm not too familiar with Philly (we picked it since we had to hit the road and wanted to see at least two shows for the effort). We've booked some rooms at the Hyatt @ Penn's Landing, but that's only because we saw it listed as part of the VIP packages, so we thought "hmmm, there oughta be at least a few 'heads there" but then again, this venue may not be the epicenter of all things Dead in PA. So if ya know of any good gathering spots for pre- and post-show communing, please reply back. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One man gathers what another man spills...
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Hey guys, Did you know that there are rules of conduct listed under Terms of Service that you agreed to when you signed up for this site? I am just throwing out this reminder because our kind moderator has had to cut people out of the site for not following them. Remember this is not a Ratdog site, you can't be mean here like many of the posts there are Here are the terms of Service: You will not: Post, transmit, or otherwise make available, through or in connection with the Site: o Anything that is or may be (a) threatening, harassing, degrading or hateful; (b)defamatory; (c) fraudulent or tortious; (d) obscene, indecent or otherwise objectionable; or (e) protected by copyright, trademark or other proprietary right without the express prior consent of the owner of such right. Peace If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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i agree with you, but doesnt the constituion override the terms of service? just making an observation.
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I would say the parking lot, weather should be nice so this is where I'll be. we usually hang out side an hour or two before and after shows. The lot should be packed to the rim! So yeah you sure did pick a great venue to see the dead. This is last year for the spectrum, its being ripped down to make room for a shopping entertainment centre!
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GROUP HUG........
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No, because you signed and agreed to the terms....therefore you gave up your constitutional rights.....seriously, just be nice and you will have to listen to the MUSIC and shine!_________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Sure you can act like a butthead,but go do it somewhere else.haters haters go away. don't come back any day. thank's So much for making this site So nice. Peace Tina
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My apologies to the Dead, this forum, and the kind people on this site for my recent comments directed towards awest27. Cooler Heads prevail!
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I would have thought this forum was not moderated until Hal R mentioned it. I belong to a baseball forum where Yankee and Red Sox fans are more civil to each other.
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wasnt being a hater! I tried to calm em down earlier. I just have this damn the man and anti-authority side to me. Just not much of a rules kinda fella, Im sure you can relate.
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You can disagree and argue like crazy here if you want but we are expected to focus on the topic and issue, not to turn it into personal slams. One of the great things about the site has been some of the heated passionate discussions; those types of things can inspire deeper thinking. We are bound to disagree on things. Diversity is what makes the world such a colorful place. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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I feel you Travis! I'm used to going to parking lots at the Oakland Coliseum (what do they call it now? The MAC a FEE something or another) and drummin my little Head off enjoying the vibes, cooking phat fires, and enjoying veggie burritos with a little sage stick on the side. They closed down some kind places in SF just like that one earlier. I know that the United Center in Chicago will not have a good parking lot, that being said, I do know alot of heads around here over the now 9 years I've lived here. Will be Heading with some kind peeps just around the corner of the show. _________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Why yes, things HAVE gotten a tad overheated here the last few days. In general, wading in while dozens of people are screaming curses at the band, the world and each other is often counterproductive. I am pleased to see folks sticking up for the community and the good vibe, and welcome all newcomers who come here in the same spirit. In addition to the fairly legalese TOS to which Hal alludes, I heartily encourage you to check out the Very Few Rules that pretty much define the way we live here. Thanks, further, etc. ME
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Believe it if you need it,if you don't just pass it on!
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Dude, you know our love will not fade away....................will be the encore for almost all these shows my brother!_________________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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<...lunch costs me $20.00, dinner is around $75.00...> snip <...A night out at the nightclub will run you at least 100 bucks...> I Whoa - Rob! Where are you eating? The Ivy? Not everyone in L.A. is spends that kind of money... I live in Hollywood and I eat f*a*n*c*y for half that, and you must be buying a lot of people drinks to have a $100 tab at any clubs I know of. Unless you're hanging with Paris Hilton. $10 an hour? Seriously, you need to take it down a notch or let Paris buy the drinks. I'm not freaked out by the ticket prices though. They're actually a lot less expensive than most concerts with good seats in the $200s. See you at the show, brother. :o) Peace, Bearly
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The parking lot for the Wac Center shares some spaces with the baseball stadium, it's a big area (the football stadium is there too), but the Phillies are playing the Mets there both days of the shows. Friday at night, Saturday during the day. Sometimes we live no particular way but our own
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Everyone is acting like the boys are taking advantage of us all. I beg to differ. If you truly do the math (for which I have taken the liberty) you will see what I mean: Location Capacity Lower Upper" Total Greensboro, NC Greensboro Coliseum *22,000 $89 $65 $1,781,919 Washington DC Verizon Center *19,500 $98 $68 $1,716,000 Charlottesville, VA John Paul Jones Arena * 14,500 $75 $45 $942,485 Albany, NY Times Union Center *17,500 $96 $56 $1,446,584 Worcester, MA DCU Center *14,500 $96 $65 $1,242,102 Worcester, MA DCU Center *14,500 $96 $65 $1,242,102 Buffalo, NY HSBC Arena *18,500 $97 $57 $1,547,704 Wilkes-Barre, PA Wachovia Arena @ Casey Plaza *11,000 $95 $1,045,000 Uniondale, NY Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum*17,000 $98 $1,666,000 New York, NY Madison Square Garden *20,000 $100 $2,000,000 Hartford, CT XL Center * 17,000 $98 $68 $1,495,824 E. Rutherford, NJ IZOD Center *20,000 $98 $1,960,000 E. Rutherford, NJ IZOD Center *20,000 $98 $1,960,000 Philadelphia, PA The Spectrum *18,000 $96 $1,728,000 Philadelphia, PA The Spectrum *18,000 $96 $1,728,000 Chicago, IL All State Arena *18,500 $95 $50 $1,479,873 Denver, CO Pepsi Center *22,000 $95 $60 $1,833,270 Los Angeles, CA The Forum *18,000 $85 $50 $1,320,000 Mountain View, CA Shoreline Amphitheater *22000 $95 $35 $1,209,976 Gross Ticket Sales $29,344,839 After 40% expenses $17,606,904 Each Band member $4,401,726 * average taken from Wikipedia " = 1/3 capacity with the exception of Shoreline which is 2/3 See what I mean,it's a mere 4.5MM each.........hardly enough to get upset about.Times are tough and may get tougher! Don't hate the player!!! I have no problem with it. As they say "Keep your day job,till your nightjob pays" Peace
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I never got it together to see the tours that consisted of Philadelphia, NYC, and Boston. Most of my shows were in the Midwest and west, so I am making a point of going to the Nassau Coliseum and MSG with my brother. Has anyone seen the huge banner of Garcia outside of MSG? It may be in the foyer, but I don't remember exactly where it is. I was coming out of Penn Station one day, and they had all these banners for the great events at the Garden and one of them was Jerry Garcia representing all of the Grateful Dead shows. I told my brother about it, so now I am on the hook for showing it to him. :)
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How do you figure that the band gets to pocket 60% of the gross ticket sales?
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Just a guess really………..more than likely could be less. Maybe 40-45% is more accurate. Then “The Tax Man” will take about 42% so when all is said and done, they may net 1.5 – 2MM each. That’s not that outrageous, when you think what ball players get.
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Wish he was in the line up. Sugaree, Dire Wolf were awsome New Years PRL
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Think the band is aware of the Stagehand Union strike at the Forum?http://www.justiceattheforum.com/ How about a nice day light outdoor show at the L.A. Coliseum like 6/1/91?
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Agreed - Sugaree was a highlight New Year's. Warren leads a nice Sugaree too. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -enjoyin' the ride -There'll never be another Jerry
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Yeah, maybe a slight exageration, but yesterday at the 8oz burger bar for three was 75.00 -and i didnt drink, hehehe. The point is it's expensive here and there. Peace see ya at the show, I'll be the one dancin!
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Nor did he see 500 shows. Anyone who followed the Grateful Dead that extensively would never be such an a-hole especially to other Deadheads. Oh and yes I have seen the Grateful Dead and yes Jerry was the man but he also messed the band up due to his heroin habit towards the end (90's). I love all the different Grateful Dead-related bands - Phil and Friends, Ratdog, Other Ones, The Dead - they all have a different outlook on the same music and I enjoy hearing those differences. Always experimenting - that's the Grateful Dead mantra. Someone quick pass the joint to awest he needs it! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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chicago bob What about Indianapolis guys??? Or better yet, St. Louis, so the displaced Chicagoans can be sure of 1, 2, or 3 shows. And, by the way, I did vote Bush 4 president, uh, SLAMMIN' SAMMY BUSH that is!!!!
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I don't have an issue with ticket prices or how much the band makes. I was just curious if you had some inside information because your numbers sounded very high to me. I looked around on the internet, and I saw 25% as the high end for established bands at large venues. Here is a link if anyone cares: http://www.mbajungle.com/main.cfm?inc=inc_article.cfm&chid=4&schid=0&WT…
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Awest may have been a Deadhead, but that doesn't mean he is not a jerk. What I found most interesting was his claiming to be a "Jerry Guy." Does he really think that Jerry would have appreciated someone who went to Dead shows in order to laugh at people? Whether he saw 5, 50 or 500 shows doesn't matter, he simply never "got it." Frankly, rather than getting angry with guys like him, we should feel sorry for them for being so angry. Man, laughing at people at Dead shows. How sad. As far as the First Amendment goes. This site is not run by the government, so any mention of the First Amendment is irrelevant. This site is private and the people who run it have the absolute right to revoke your privilege to post here if you violate their rules. That being said, it is very, very rare that that happens, even though there is alot of criticism on the site. Our moderator is really cool and lets most people speak their mind. As I posted before, I hope the new people to the site are not turned off by the posts in this topic, as it really does not reflect the community that frequent this site. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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WHAT ABOUT DYLAN? I HOPE HES ONE OF THE SURPRISES ON THE TOUR. that show above is killer, 1st sets the dead, 2nd sets dylan and the dead. check it out on grateful dead archives!!!!YOU WONT REGRET IT!!!
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NOW THAT THE SINGER IS GONE, WHERE DO WE GO FOR THE SONG? Even though jerrys death shook the nations foundation . Lets all respect each other with our words on this forum. JERRY WOULD OF WANTED THAT!!! PLEASE BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER AND RESPECT EACH OTHERS OPINIONS!!!! LOVE YOU ALL, E-Z-2-B-ME
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I plan on going to the show on may 7th in Denver . I live in Oklahoma and this will be my first dead show to attend. I was looking for anyone else that might be going. As well what to expect I'am getting a lot of sh#$ from people here saying "I shouldn't go", "Dude your not a deadhead no one will give you the time of day", "Man u'll stick out like a sore thumb". truth is i dont really care i love this music and plan on having a chill time. i just find it hard to grasp that without the tye-dyes and sandals i wouldn't be welcome. is this true
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You will be welcomed with open arms. I don't look or dress like many but have always mixed and mingled right in. It's about the vibe, not superficial judgments. DO NOT MISS THAT SHOW! Bonehead Tom
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lordmonkey - definitely go! The space on the bus is infinite. As long as you can chill and have a great time you'll always be welcomed! I'll be in Denver too!
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No such thing as a newbie. There are just people who are going to their first of many shows and people who are going to another of many shows. Not a big difference. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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I live close to the Pepsi Center and have seen many shows there. The cool thing about the Pepsi Center is that the staff is really chill and they leave you alone. During the NYE Widespread Panic shows I saw many of the Event Staff dancing with the crowd. Pretty cool scene. I have always had a fun time there and with the Dead oh man is it going to be fun. I hope to see you all there! "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"
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He is in Europe during this tour.
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Bonehead Tom.....Drumhead.....lordmonkey <<<<<<< I'll meet you at the jubilee Broken heart don't feel so bad......You ain't got half of what you thought you had.
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I'll be in my usual places on this site, but not here no more. too many bad vibes and too much negativity in this thread. those who know me, know where I'm talking about. feels like 1987-88... in here. actually feels like 1982 when all of the junkie skells started hitting all of the parking lots looking to score and lots of freaks who did not give a shit about the mu\sic-- oh, when I was just a youngin'... those were the daze... stop the attacks and criticisms of other, please. see you kind folks on the other side of the rabbit hole. HalR, I love you brother; got more breath, still?? pomo, you too, but some folks just can't see the light. couldn't even skim though some of this crap without feeling the negative vibes and getting a headache. love and peace.
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If your into the Music,your not a outsider.so welcome and enjoy the ride. Peace
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pomo1, Did Jerry talk to you from beyond? If not, you have not spoken to him. You did not personally know Jerry and you certainly don't talk for him. Talk to Debra about that. Yes, you are the judgmental posers we use to laugh at. Get over it. You can't change it. Everybody needs humor.
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WHO ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? I can guarantee you'll have a great time. check ur inbox messages!!!
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WHO ARE YOU? WHERE ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? I can guarantee you'll have a great time. check ur inbox messages!!!
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I was just wondering since I am not allowed to start a thread yet if anyone is going to start threads on the different venues.. I am going to Shoreline and would like to possibly make arrangements to meet with other from the forums..I would also like to hear about the venue since I have never been there and don't know what to expect as far as prior to the show..I will be Trucking (flying) from Seattle... I was posting alot prior to ticket sales but haven't had as much time since then and just went through the rest of the threads.. WOW..Lets just all get along ..I was just @ the store and saw a kid in his late teens possibly early 20's in a wheel chair with a permanent disibility..He has it alot worse than the majority of us and you know what...He was smiling...
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it's been about 48 hours since the presale dust settled and the adrenalin started to subside. Old Heads and new Heads are all welcome here regardless of whether they spoke with Jerry or not, but only if they treat each other with civility and respect. So enough with the bad vibes, name-calling, and Deader-than-thou, please. Lordmonkey, don't worry! You will find nice folks and have a great time! And if you say you are a Dead Head, there's no one can say you're not.
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rosa rugosa Hopefully everyone who wants to will get tickets through mail order or general sale next week, and then the vibes will be a bit happier :)
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I think of deadnet as a community. A community is the people it is made up of. The community here is important, insightful, wonderful, magical and above all, a place where good vibes and good friends play off one another. It is important because there are very few places on our little planet where history, hope, peace, love still have a voice. It is important because it is insightful, into the lives and thoughts and actions of a group of people that seek a better world...a peaceful world, a world of lifting your neighbors up, a world of understanding and void of unthoughtful judgement. It is important because it is a place of wonder. A place where the music and the words of a group of people continue to bring new meaning to many of us everyday. Words and music that transend time and space. It is magical because...well just because magic happens here. I have seen it. Ask tigerlily. It is a place where we all can come and bounce thoughts and experiences off one another. And when we do that, I think we all want good vibes to bounce around us. And that is why I believe good vibes are essential, they are infectious and they are much more stable and therefore more inclined to color our lives. So the more good vibes there are in the people here, the more wonderful, loving, enriching, and fulfilling this community becomes for all of us. peace,pk