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  • Dave Sure
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    dead vs phish
    right on earthman!
  • earthman
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    As for phish,
    greetings, i say phish can stand on their own. they're entirely different form the dead. i have had the pleasure of seeing both many times an well as all the spinoffs and i see no similarity. i would say it is possible to enjoy them all as they're all doing their own thing. i really enjoy hearing the familiar songs played with a twist never knowing what to expect. wonderful world beautiful people earthman I'd save the world but I'm short on cash
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    HEY phatmoey-
    That was a good post-but do ya'think we needed 3 of them!?!?!?!(LOL)Just messin' w/ya-bro!!Did you get my post about those DEAD books? DARK STAR is a really good read-lots of inside info on ole uncle Jer. Are you goin' to any Worcester shows-I'd like to meet ya and share a doobie(or two)GARCIALATER-G♪
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    Epilogue to the Ticket Rant...........................
    To all of those with your positive and enlightening remarks about ticket sales, or should I say non-sales, THANK YOU!!! Class action is in order against Ticket Bastard, anyone know a poster boy/girl we can use as lead plaintiff? I AM STILL WAITING FOR YOU TICKETBASTARD, just for an ALERT THAT Ticket sales will begin for the Chicago show, SOMETIME!!!!! See y'all in the Windy, No thanks to TICKETBASTARD~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^>>>>>>>>
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    PARKING LOT AT PENN. SHOW
    The parking lot at the penn show was pretty laid back, we arrived about 3 hours before the show, and i think we paid about 10 bux to park in the lot. We just wondered around the lot for a while, got a few veggy burritos, talked to other heads, drank a few beers, smoked alittle, the usuall lot scene. Now, after the show, campus police really didn't make anyone leave till about 3 hours after the show. As far as the security goes it was pretty laid back. Shakedown St. was deffinately going on for a good 3 hours after the show. I hope the philly shows are the same way!Phatmoye As for phish, save ur money, and see the DEAD!!!!!
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    I stopped going to Grateful
    I stopped going to Grateful Dead concerts in '84 - so the lot scene wasn't all that big of a deal yet. It wasn't until '01 when I went to a Phil Lesh show in Burlington, VT that I got a taste of that experience. It was November, so it was cold outside. Even so, a few hundred folks were milling around in the parking lot near Memorial Auditorium, some of them selling stuff, others buying and even more just hanging out. though In '04, I caught The Dead at SPAC and the lot scene was a very big deal. The thing I thought was kind of sad about it all was that so many of the folks there neither had tickets nor had any real inclination to go to the show. They were just there to party with the folks who were going to the show (or just with other hangers on). I was always used to big crowds outside shows back when I caught the Grateful Dead between '76-'84, even when they played small theaters. The deal was that folks were trying to score tickets, not a buzz and a burrito. I guess it's all cool, but I always figured that the music made the scene, but that the scene wasn't an end unto itself. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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    Dont think so..
    dont know how they could do a summer tour, with this band as is,, looks like ole Warren is busy with the Allmans this summer 40yr. tour and all. plus Govt. Mule,, Bobby and his band will do there thing, maybe with the ABB, if this tour goes well for the Dead Look for a verry late summer( sept> oct. ) run , maybe south west.. Ratdog also has venues booked for fall tour( westbury, halloween) grab a ticket for this tour, I think they are ready for some serious fun again..
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    SoPo-bilee(Phish bash-Summer Tour-LOTS of fun)
    I agree-I would'nt pay to see Phish either-Ive never gotten the whole Phish thing-I think they try too hard to be weird and that Trey guy bugs me, Not that I think he's a bad musician-He just seems like a stuck-up geek.(JMO)just my opinion-bilee-I heard NO SUMMER TOUR because of RATDOG's summer shows and a GOV'T MULE tour(I know-bummer-but if there was a summer tour I may have to take out a 2nd mortgage just to see a few shows)(LOL)Back to SoPo-yeah I hope the lots open early-that's 1/2 the fun!!!!♪♪♪Nothin's shakin' on Shakedown Street-Just gutta poke around...♪♪♪♪
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    word is phil wants summer off to be with family. :(
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    Lots?
    I've seen that phish isn't letting people onto the lots until 2 hours before the doors open--i am thinking they are trying to stop a shakedown from forming. Hopefully the dead don't do the same. Anyone heard anything? On a side note i also saw that phish is charging 49.50 for all tix--not that i'd pay to see them
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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working on it, re the topics for upcoming shows. We're discussing a few details behind the scenes. Thanks!
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ps - come on back cc, there are many people here who need to be touched by your magic.
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I would like to thank all the people that unshelfishly volenteer there time to make this site happen.. This place helped alot of us in getting to the show..The majority of bands websites make you buy a membership in order to get the perk of a password for presale tickets... for those that think the band sold out they could of easily made us pay for a fan club but they opted not to and noone had to pay for the presale info.. Thanks everyone here for getting this done to the best of there ability
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I can't get over all the negativity surrounding this HUGE event. It IS and always HAS been about the music. The remaining boys are hitting the road and I feel truly honored to witness this event. The music is timeless. The atmosphere is beautiful... Also please stop with the "boring Warren" comments. The man is a truly gifted guitar player. When John Scofield toured with PL&F, I though to myself-will this really work? Scofield is an amazing player with quite a bit of history. Talk about improvisation! Then I thought about Phil's playing and realized "how could it not work?". And let me tell you it worked out really fine. Amazing and memorable show. So in respect to Warren...I consider anyone who has to fill those really big shoes will not only be respectful, but also humbled. I'm looking forward to seeing mr. Haynes play alongside the GREAT ONES. I can't wait till April. I know it will be memorable. As the master of ceremonies once said "They're not the best at what they do, they're the only ones that do what they do." AND MAN DO THEY DO IT WELL!!!!!!!
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That's another grate thing about this site, the occasional video clip of a hula-hooping twirly girl loosing her halter top at a show ;^D. Probably not exactly what you were talking about, though. Gotta love the cool people here, too. They're pretty magical, even with clothes on. Cheers, MarkintheDark (endlessly searching for the mud-hippy of my dreams...) ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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looks like there has been a spike in the number of good vibes today except for a few who will certainly work their problems out . please comeback cc because even though i havent been a member of this site long when i was looking for change rocks info before i was a member im fairly certain it was your comments and many other peoples that helped me get through that stress other people need you dont get discouraged by a few negative people they will eventually come to their senses
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Could anyone ever imagine taking this long to finally start getting excited about having tickets? This has never happened to me before, EVER! I've been in a very foul mood since Tuesday but I'm slowly coming around. Must be all the positive posts I've enjoyed reading, especially the ones about heads taking road trips to see a show. Did you see the one about being in a business meeting while on-line ordering tics? That was a good one. Anyways, we''ve been waiting for this tour for soooooo long and deep down we all really know the boys are worth the $95.
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No more negative vibes here...It makes me think of VW buses with gun racks
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Does anyone know what the special promotion code is for the MSG tix left on Musictoday, what does it mean, cant wait for tour to start!!!
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We didn't need a promotion code for the presale you just needed to make sure you where signed up with them before purchasing tickets..Just click on general tickets from the home page and follow it though..
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500 posts behind to find pk tell cc not to leave!!! whats with this? i'm not even gonna bother to find out what started this. bad vibes at work, bad vibes in here, bummer! the f#@*ing DEAD are gonna tour again, whats not to be freakin happy about!! i personally won't be able to swing it, but i sure am glad for all who can!peace,out
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Here's my question: Why is it legal now to scalp tickets? There are dozens of sites (if not hundreds) that are plain as day that have, I would venture to guess, at least a quarter of the tickets for some of these shows. Stub Hub, Admit One, Ticket Liquidator and ABC tickets, to name a few. I been on these sites and I found that for the Philly shows there is an offer for tickets in section 102 in ANY of the first 15 to 20 rows. Ticket price rages from $943 to $1,131. This is front and center- absolutely the most prime seats in the house. The person offering these tickets has to either work for Musictoday or Consider It Dan because they have more then their allotment of 6 tickets. Or they're counterfeit. According to the user agreement on the Musictoday site this is illegal (see below). Do they really have no way of tracking these people down? Come on! They're as plain as day. So, is it illegal or not illegal? Or is it illegal and not enforceable? Not enforceable would seem a likely excuse but please, spare me. Now who's to blame for the proliferation of these site. George Carlin said that its not the fault of the politicians that they're corrupt and evil and destroying this country it you fools who voted them in. (I'm paraphrasing- go here for what he really said ). If people are paying $250 to thousands for tickets to the Dead, then who are the fools. OK, I'll stop ranting because, lord knows I could go on and on. I have more questions then I have answers. Pessimistic? Very!! "Stop this train I'm leaving." Part of Musictoday's user agreement: "Third Party Resellers You agree not to sell, reproduce for sale, alter, or counterfeit the ticket for any reason, and you assume all financial and criminal liability resulting from the same, including the copying of your unique, bar-coded ticket. Any transfer, attempted transfer, resale, counterfeit, or unauthorized copy is grounds for seizure and/or cancellation without refund..."
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I guess you can't post links because the one that's supposed to be in my last post didn't show up so just google "George Carlin on voting."
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I supposed a hundred bucks is reasonable.... if there is the expectation for greatness, but I am having a hard time anticipating that. For all intents and purposes, other than the initial Other Ones tour after Jer checked out, the shows seem very under-rehearsed, tentative and downright haphazard. The Phil and Friends shows have always seemed far more exploratory and interesting. Ratdog? Next! Mickey? Moments of magic. So call me the wet blanket, but this fan for 37 years will pass on this one. The loveable, friendly Warren Haynes does zip in jacking up any excitement. His approach is too gritty and the melodic sense is not in the same ballpark as many other players, so that sealed the deal for not going. But good luck, I hope the fans and band have some great shows and that I am totally wrong. But the combination of money grubbing and unrealized musical experiences are keeping me away this run.
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dudes, of course curiosity killed the ccAT... so I had to take a peek back here; ( -; but I'll be spinning spinning spinn' free and talking about the tour in a +++++++++++ positive way over there. thanks for the kindess, love and peace.
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<< Peace see ya at the show, I'll be the one dancin!>> I'll be the one with the aching legs limping back to my car after the show. ;-) Peace, Bearly
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Check out the obama benefit show, Full of energy and songs are jamed out pretty long. Very nice Dark Star. If its a sign of whats to be of this tour then it def. wont be a let down http://bt.etree.org/?searches=&cat=11
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ahhh, kicking back with my warm bevvie, watching the sun come up, thought I wuold perusethe tour page, and what did I find? Literally the most engaging, raw interchange of frustration, talking with no listening, farting in to the wind, and then the mountains of men and women that live on this site, guiding, directing, instructing, ducking out (cc-i know your gona read this), ducking back in, and in general taking on the heat, and trying to make it all come out of its vicious hippie downward spiral, while allowing heads to cool, I must say, this is by far the most inspirational example of good deadheadism I have ever seen. You guys know who you are, I aint gonna list you all, but way to f^%*^%&^king go guys. You have made me very proud to be a deadhead, by your willingness to stand in the fre, and try to cool things down. so proud to be a dead head this mornig. i might even CONSIDER going to a show now, just to see if I can meet some of yuo. you guys are f%^&^king awesome! Back to your regularly scheduled musical interlude. i'm out into the frozen tudra..f.i.
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-- Tom Kelly always,,, not fadeaway...... regarding tickets..and prices,, I just read that fleetwood mac canceled there gig up in albany,, sales are slow for nassau,, believe they were charging 135 or so a shot,,Im not happy with the dead hitting the century mark for tix,, but it is what it is,, Im sure things will be done top shelf,, sound , lighting..hope for video screens.. some of the venues are selling back stage tix.. at around 50 so at least you can get in,, I some how was lucky enough to secure tix for msg. and nassau through pre sale.. after reading some horror stories, I feel like we hit Lotto... the boys will be out to give us all a good time,, if new years was an indication,, things should be hot...Id like to see Donna jean jump on board for this tour.. she would be a welcome voice,, saw her this summer past with the triksters she was on!! Donna also sat in with Mickeys band they made some sweeet music... anyway its all good.. so cool to be talkin up the band again...peace...
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Wow 100 bucks is expensive at least for the working man..oh well I saw the Grateful Dead...I am gonna pass on the Dead...Anyway Donna sounds terrible why does everyone hype her up so much..............I saw a few posts asking why Jimmy Herring isn't playing....Hmmmmm maybe he found a real band......Who are actually in it for their fans!!!Sorry but Panic with Herring is all that and a box of cheese Peace
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No, by all means all information is welcomed! As I stated I just guessed their cut……now that you say 25% I would say that sounds more like it, being most big business usually net from 10-15% on gross sales after all is said and done. I was just trying to understand what everyone is so upset about…….. when it’s not like each guy is taking home 10’s of millions on the tour. Thanks for the info………..see you at the shows
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It seems to me the tide has turned in here. The vibe is better. Even those criticizing, which everybody has the right to do and should do if they see fit, are doing so in a more civilized and rational manner. I am proud of the "regulars' who stood up for the site, and hope that some of the new visitors to the site stay with us. BTW, anyone looking for recordings of shows, check out the Vineyard. Does anybody know how long it takes to find out if you scored a ticket with the mail order? "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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JackstrawfromCo. - "Anyone who followed the Grateful Dead that extensively would never be such an a-hole especially to other Deadheads."............. Only imbeciles have to resort to insults. Thanks for proving that point. Who made you the "judge" of other people? Look in the mirror. Only a fool would say Jerry messed up the Dead. It's called an ADDICTION, moron. Do you know what that means? If Jerry was messing up the band so much, why didn't the rest of the leeches dump him. Because anyone with a brain knew w/o Jerry there would be no Dead. I believe that is what happened when he died. Pass the joint? I wouldn't smoke your Schwag. pomo1 - "Awest may have been a Deadhead, but that doesn't mean he is not a jerk."....... Another poser who thinks he is a judge.Oh, don't feel sorry for me. Remember I saw the Dead 500+ times and you have to see the LEFTOVERS. Good luck with that. By the way, the bus stopped in 1995. I guess nobody told you.
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hey its all good,, I saw my first show in 74 roosevelt stadium,, I had no clue what was going on, 14yrs. old.. by 76 I was ready though..things have changed a lot since than,,I have a good vibe about this tour,, I think the core four is into this,, more like 98(other ones), Im betting they bring there A game to the shows,, new years was as good as anything I have seen since Jerry checked out..100 bucks a pop, is a lot of cash no doubt,, makes doing a "run" of shows almost impossible,, with mortgages, kids, college,, all the other things,, but enjoy what you can,,like we used to say before web posting Its the Dead man if you get it, you love it, if you dont... let it be, Fleetwoood mac just canceled there show up in albany, poor sales ..140 or so a ticket, , we know this tour will most likely sell out,,so the heads speak... but Id still like to see Donna Jean with the boys though..just to watch her twirl when the band gets out there..
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Awest - not starting any bad rapport with you but I'm curious - when did you start seeing the Dead? And did you know anyone in the group personally?
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Your insult are atrocious,and uncalled for! Just fucking go away if you can't be kind. Calling anybody a moron is NOT allowed, NOR acceptable to any of us here. Didn't you see our mod marye saying to play nice, or what? You too busy spewing your poisonos venom to read what the people are telling you here,one after another? Is enough shit in the world nowadays; and then our kind, supportive community has to put up with you? ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live Samuel Clemens
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I am so amped to see the Dead outdoors @ Shoreline watching the sunset and the stars above... I have always preferred the outdoor venue as opposed to indoors.. When I saw the tour anounced and the time of year I was afraid it was going to be all indoor venues..There is nothing better than an all day event and the kind skies for a canopy to end the day
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is better-you are wiser than I just was. :-D********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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What tune are they going to open the tour with... Also lets get this bring back Donna Jean campaign going...we need people to hit the streets...lets have some fun here on a cold winters day in the northeast.....
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and think is the first time exploded like that.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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I am originally from Buffalo and during this time of year I don't miss the weather @ all..There are some insane digits going on back there and was reading that Lake Erie is close to freezing
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TigerLilly says "AWEST27 SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! - " What a original statement. As you know, only imbeciles have to resort to insults. Standard procedure for a poser. As far as insults, is ""AWEST27 SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! " a term of endearment? You might want to practice what you preach, hypocrite. fleaflicker - I not arguing, just presenting facts.
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One of the management models I've seen used here before for effectively dealing with bullies was the old tried and true Treat Them Like They're Your Teeth: Ignore them and they'll go away. Everybody remember the episode with the person calling themselves JC? The sooner we stop reacting to the haters the sooner their fun is over. I haven't had much to say recently because I was pretty bummed by what happened to me in the presale, and I really didn't have anything constructive to say. So I just shut up instead of being a drag. The screen snap I posted certainly seemed to be a lightning rod for negativity, and in retrospect, I wish it had been more effective in that role. At least then, those who didn't want to deal with the bad vibes could just ignore the whole thread. Happy to suck up the bad karma if it helps everyone else out. I'm still hoping to have a shot at decent seats in the public sale. If it works out, I'll be happy. If not, I guess I won't get to go. But I do hope that everyone who does go has one hell of a time as they should. And I do hope those seats I missed out on end up in the hands of some kind and deserving people. That would at least make my disappointment worth it. Peace, everybody. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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I was looking @ E-Bay just to see what tickets people where selling and when I saw the price I nearly fell over..Alot of the people are posting different shows as sold out which I find strange since they didn't even go on sale officially yet to the public..I realize there are no presale seats left for Shoreline but I would be curious to know how many seats have been held for the official sale on 1-23 and what type of seats they are still holding
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"Shut the fuck up" was a command. "Hypocrite", on the other hand, was an insult. ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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awest - presenting facts?When did you start seeing the Dead and do you know anyone in the group personally?
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FRICKIN BLAH
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There is also an allotment of tickets for mail order. None of the shows are sold out yet.
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I have a few friends that opted for mail order just to stay with tradition..i am curious to see what seats they get and really dig the nostalgia idea..I am just to damn impatient..but at least I can admit my problem which is the 1st step
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I was not happy with my presale seats for MSG, so I sent in for mail order tickets.
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Back in the 80's I got beat up by some drunken bullies in the parking lot of the meadowlands. They broke a beer bottle on me and kicked me around for being a "stinkin hippy"! I felt so sorry for them. I had just seen 3 amazing shows and was on a musical high like I had never imagined possible. Their limited minds would never allow them to understand how amazing things the hatred they felt would not permit them to get. I honestly never even felt anger towards them. Send out love and that is what you will receive. Peace. Never judge a man until you have walked a mile in his sandals. That way when you do judge him, you are a mile away and have his sandals!
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Would have definitely gone that route, except that using a credit card is the only way I can float this right now, which they aren't taking for these shows, so...... Hope everyone who did mail order comes up smiling! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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I don't get all the negativity. The Core 4 have decided to reunite. Is it for the money? NO. Is it for us? Partially. Is it 'cause they found that magic again and want more of it? That's my guess. $100 a seat and people are griping? Go see the withered Don Henley and the mishmosh of musicians he's calling "The Eagles" these days for less than $200 and your seat will be in the bathroom. The Rolling Stones' cheap seats are $190....and don't forget - they don't have all THEIR original members either. $100 is just fine by me. I can't understand the bitching and complaining. If it's too much, don't go. If you'd rather see the pale imitation, aka DSO, for $30 - enjoy 'em! They're great at what they do - a wonderful imitation of the Grateful Dead. To me, it's "Gratefulmania," but I'm glad they're helping keep the music alive so nicely and with such attention to detail. The world needs them!For these 4 guys to patch up their personal differences and see them palling around in those videos - it's simply wonderful. The vibe is great. I'm just gonna steer clear of the negativity being spewn from people who simply just "don't get it." And when I say that, I say it wholeheartedly. You haters may have "gotten it" long ago, but you lost it somewhere along the line. Personally, I believe this could be the last time. I felt the magic in State College. Their listening skills were honed in and the collective brought it - with force. I'm dropping out for 5 shows. I'm a father of 3, full-time employed and only income in my family. There's no way I'm missing some of this magic. Even if they DO another tour, I'm done. This is it for me and I've made my peace with that. Certainly if they come to my backyard - I'll be there....but my touring days end after this tour. I'll be pickin' my acoustic in the parking lots and I'll be a 22 year old all over again....nothin' left for this 40-year old papa left to do but smile, smile, smile... ~ Pappy http://www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Tom Kelly always not fadeaway,, so many memories about doing the mail order,, doing art work on the outside envelope,, bold letters.. hoping for good sets, so it goes,,the pre sale was nutty for sure,, I was able to connect for good seats nassau, so so for msg..was ready to shoot for another show,,but when I looked at my dollar total,, had to shut down. pay the mortgage or see another show?. hope the mail order works out for all cant imagine there would be anything left for what they call general sale but we shall see.. bring back Donna Jean!!!
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all the haters stay home. If you choose to attend, please check the tude at the gate. I also flipped out at first over the prices and scalpers scooping up most of the good seats, but I'm over it. Is what it is. I'll be happy to jump into a seat closer than mine left empty by an unsold scapler ticket. Just looking to have a good time and hope you all are too.
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I have a feeling that what little seats that are left at Shoreline and MSG will get snatched from brokers and scalpers..I am curious to see the listing prices after the 23rd when the demand is higher..I miss the old days when you camped out for tickets and where rewarded for your patience and time..Met some great people over the years standing in those lines
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All ya'll (and you know who YOU are) get n touch with me before the show and i PROMISE it'll be magical
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As if I have anything to say about it.......How about one set singing and the other just tambourine and twirling? Sending out good vibrations to everyone here. See you at the Colliseum!!