Grateful Dead

ive been jumping back and forth reading the posts in this newest debate and i must say....to piss tigerlilly off is quite an accomplishment....so i have to ask....awest do you, have anything positive to say at all? it's a fair question i believe.

Awest Please don't dominate the rap Jack if you got nothing new to say It's a far gone lullaby sung many years ago It all rolls into one and nothing comes for free If you got a dollar boys lay it on the line I have spent my life Seeking all that's still unsung I'm having a high time Living the good life May the four winds blow you home again

That was very cool.

Me thinks tigerlily+Awest need to smokem peacepipe and put on headphones and crank up Terrapin Station--anyone agree? Be Kind-Remember why you liked this band in the first place?

I understand why everyone is pissed off,It was the same way with the Penn State tickets Sad fact is there are alot of people trying to make money on this and any band that has been around for a long time.You see GREED is alive and well. What I don't like even more is some SOCALLED deadhead Pissing off the good people of this site. So my fellow Deadheads,l say we don't buy into the greed and hate. Let'm choke on there Hate and Scalped tickets Peace Tina

Well said, cassidysdada. Folks, I foresee that there will be a bit of sweeping up here when the dust settles, with attendant removal of some of the more over-the-top personal abuse, if only because the Internet seems to be forever in this regard, and who needs this stuff following them around all their lives? Meanwhile, this whole topic, scurrilous abuse and all, is a pretty classic example of a movie we've all pretty much seen numerous times already, and has a certain cautionary and/or exemplary value as is. As many have noted, there's plenty of room for diversity of opinion here; what there's not room for is name-calling, nastiness, private disputes paraded in public places, that kind of thing. Want to see some blasts from the past? Check out, for example, any topic containing the word "Obama." I seriously doubt than any two people here are in complete agreement on all issues--and yet, the folks here have built something pretty great. Thanks to the propagators of good vibes, whether you got on the bus in 1965 or 2005. Thanks to the folks who've helped build this place, and welcome to those who just got here. Mod hat off...

Hey did anyone ever receive a "promotional code" from dead.net? "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

Bob Kelly-- Tom Kelly always not fadeaway,, crank up the tapers section from this week,, second segment...turn on your lovelight...let it shine!!!,, and remember the Bring back Donna Jean campaign is gaining momentum..

I have looked at this site in the past but never joined until the Tour was anounced..I had looked at the forums in the past but they didn't seem to have much movement or participation.. Since the tour was anounced it seem like alot of people from all walks of life with a shared interest where able to create a bond. I have seen so much potential from older members and newbies like myself to really make this place special..I have enjoyed being here the last few weeks and every day I come here I learn something new and interesting.. lets leave our negativities @ the door and help and smile with one another..This place is a great escape from the bad times going on in the world... Peace, love & understanding PS "Don't feed the Trolls" and they will fade away

Bob Kelly-- never got a promo code,,, I kept getting shut down,, kept on plugging away,, and than as if an angel came down,, I was in.. was able to get some tix for 2 shows..was ready to try for another when a little voice told me the budget is peaked.. anyway,, feel very fortunate to have what I have.. will try for a road trip, if they have half the juice they had on new years .. we will all be grateful.... so get your hands atta ya pocket and get some good ole lovin....

I was looking for something like that,but no heads up on anything? So I went for the mail order. Peace Tina

have faith Tina the tickets will shine on you,, if you mail ordered on day 1 .. you should be fine...and leave it on!!!

its 15, degrees outside, almost too cold to walk the dog.. its 90 days till striper season , but dark star from 69 is crankin. and the band is back,,.this space is getting hot... god life is good....

Just checking in to see if things were a little more positive than the last time I was on…obviously they’re not. I just don’t get all the anger and negativity. I mean frustration is one thing, I get why some people are frustrated with the pre-sale fiasco and the prices, but now it’s getting mean and hostile. People calling each other names…what’s going on? Aren’t we all adults? Can’t we find a nicer way to communicate our differences of opinions? I think the Boys would be very disappointed to see all the negative vibes flying around. Let’s play nice…it’s Friday for crying out loud – this is no way to start the weekend. I’m sending positive vibes out…please someone grab them and spread them around.

I suppose everyone has said enough about the frustrating beginning to the presale but I'm over that now and am just worried about getting shut out of the only show I plan on attending this tour - Madison Square Garden. I mail ordered for tickets when it became clear that the internet presale was a complete debacle but I'd really like some guaranteed tickets for the show since I have already booked my airline and hotel arrangements for NYC. The presale ticket site appears to have 300 level tickets for MSG but when I try and order them they are 'unavailable in that quantity' etc. Does anyone have information on the promo/special offers code box? I have never received any special code that I am aware of when signing up for dead.net or musictoday. Alternatively, does anyone have an idea if Ticketmaster will be handling the general ticket sales when the presale is over and what date those might go onsale? When I look at Ticketmaster I see that show but it shows the tickets as unavailable while other shows have either the 23rd or 24th of January as onsale dates. Any information appreciated...

My "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused" attituded can carry me just so far some days. The "disgusted" has started to seep back in...a lot of these posts seem as if they have bled over from the Ratdog.org site, where there's a whole lot more of that stuff going on. Positive vibes passed on...

I think once we get more topics started things will really chill out..It seems as though this thread is the most active and alot of it is rehashing the same ole same.. i normally plan for 1 big show a year and never expected this blessing in a million years..I am just happy to be going to the show and it has given me something special to look forward to every day

And move on? Just a thought. Getting back to the tour, which is what this little thread is about, I'm still as excited as ever! Just wish it was sooner rather than later that they were playing in my neck of the woods. Get butterflies just thinking about it!!! Wish my 2 fave's were there...Jerry and Brent, but I know they'll be there in spirit!

and for increasing the negativity of this thread. Was upset about a poster being called a "moron" and went too far. I am sorry people.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

this is the season of ... what now,, time of returning... guess the first song of the tour and win a free weeks worth of smiles... any ideas...

I want to say to my sisters and my brothersKeep the faith When the storm flies and the wind blows Go on at a steady pace When the battle is fought and the victory's won We can all shout together, we have overcome We'll talk to the Father and the Son When we make it to the promised land Chorus If we walk together, little children We won't ever have to worry Through this world of trouble We've got to love one another Let us take our fellow man by the hand Try to help him to understand We can all be together For ever and ever When we make it to the promised land Our bible reads Thou shalt not be afraid Of the terror by night Nor the arrow that flies by day Nor for the pestilence That walketh in the darkness Nor for the destruction That waiteth in the noonday hour [chorus] This world is not our home We are only passing through Our trail is all made up Way beyond the blue Let us do the very best that we can While we're travelin' through this land We can all be together Shaking a hand When we make it to the promised land [chorus] When we make it to the promised land children Make it to the promised land children Make it to the promised land children Make it to the promised land When we make it to the promised land sisters Make it to the promised land children We can all be together, forever and ever When we make it to the promised land [chorus] We can all be together, forever and ever When we make it to the promised land AMEN

As they were in the beginning ;o). I understand your frustration and we all have out boiling points so it's all good!

Yeah, the name-calling and drama is something we could all do without. That said, it is equally ridiculous for people to be calling for "an end to the negativity" just because MANY people are upset with the ticket snafus and the inflated price for seeing the band. This is a DISCUSSION page, not an "everything is rosy in our little bubble" page. From my perspctive, people are justifiably pissed and others are justifiably happy. Period. For me, I think the prices are too high to justify the "event", given the uneven performances in the past and the fact the Warren Haynes (wonderful player and person that he is) is simply not the greatest fit for this band, (Don't get me started on why Hornsby or Larry or Jackie or even Kimock(despite his and Phil's "history" weren't considered)... But what the hell, it's their job to pick the players, do their best and for those of us willing to shell out a hundred bucks a piece, to enjoy and judge whether it was worth it. It would have to be one of the best dead shows I have seen in 37 years of being a fan to justify the cost of the flight, ticket, lodging, etc, so I am simply going to take a pass on this one. And then hope Phil and Friends make a run through at some point, or even Dark Star---That, to me, comes closer to the bone of what Jerry's spirit brought to the band--- But that's just me. Everyone going, enjoy the show! Everyone not going, oh well, maybe next time.

Thanks for putting that beautiful groove in my head! Give me something to sing to myself here at work!!!

Unfortunately there are a few people in here who like to antagonize others just to start a confrontation. That is true on any site that let's you post your thoughts. I am guilty of lashing out at those people too because you get tired of hearing their crap but the most effective thing we all can do is just ignore them. They are looking for a response out of us - a confrontation. "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

Jackstraw, thanks!!********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

i was just listening to it at work so I thought I'd share

I can't wait to get some shopping in @ Shakedown Street..I always enjoy the prefunk fair atmosphere that you can only get at a dead show.. I will definately be sporting the kilt

I just don't want to see all the name calling and hostility. I hope no one has misinterpreted my posts, I realize this is a discussion board where people share thoughts and opinions..it just seemed to get really down and dirty there for a while - ya know? I can handle arguing points back and fourth, but it just kind of crossed the line a couple times - at least in my opinion. But hopefully we're heading down a better, more amicable path now.

I would say that no one is supporting you awest27 you may as well give up. I know I know I was supposed to follow my own advice and ignore him :-) "Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

now someones pissed off Tigerlily!!!??? i'm outta here, ya'll ain't very jerryish!

that awest's latest attempts to provoke arguments have been unpublished, and that a similar fate will befall such posts by anyone else. Thank you.

I can't wait for all the yummy homecooked food! Veggie burritos, here I come! And all the new friends. I always leave a show with more friends than I came with - how cool is that!?!?!

Yep, I agree southerntam, I haven't witnessed all the scorched earth talk back and forth, I see them at a glance and pass them by for more, uh, mature discussions, but I guess there is bound to be some of that in any discussion with differing outlooks (just look at the last election) but it is nice to agreeably disagree as a community. I think folks are going to have a great time at the shows, but I have to see I wa a bit put off, as this tour really struck me as more "corporate" and profit-driven than any other one I have seen by our beloved band. In a time of economic distress caused by blatant high roller greed, it is easy to see why many people are put off by these particular prices being asked. And equally easy to see why many could care less, as long as they get to hear the boys gather again for music. That said, I think Jerry, if he was in good mental and physical health, would be much happier to be playing intimately in a club-than dealing with all of this. But he never really stopped that train.

No problem Tigerlily - I bit yesterday but not today. It's Friday and Beautiful outside. Besides I see the Mod has deleted his recent comments... And, It's getting better already!!!

And I strongly support it everywhere including this board. So telling this one to you know what or that one to get lost because they didn't drink your flavor of Kool Aid is just .....well not cool with me. I've been on this site for a fair shake now. Even was around for the re-launch which Mary and team did such a great job with... but man. This mob approach to everyone and everything not aligned with your view is just Bush. Like the presiden Bush. Small minded and dangerous to others. So when the Mob gathers again to chase someone off I'll be there to stand with that person. Always. NBT

to be perfectly clear, dissent is fine and heartily encouraged. Personal invective after my most recent post on the subject is not, and will be summarily dealt with. Thank you.

No worries Mary. I have no fondness for harsh language and name calling. Just creeps me out when I sense the Mob gathering and torches being lit. NBT

One of the many ever-present dangers. Thanks!

I can't wait for the cheese pizza's made in a skillet on a soft shell taco skin after the show..Southern this is a thread in these forums where a member is selling a cook book on recipes for beggie burritos from past shows..I am thinking of getting it and proceeds go towards the REX foundation

the omniputant Grateful Dead Saint Stephan... with a rose, in and out of the garden he goes..first show 74,, last show,, new years eve this year,, next show spring 09..no time to hate... first song forst show:Golden Road.. Bobby on vocals....

you know our love will not fadeaway...opening big jam into not fade away... hows the parking lot scene down at the spectrum used to be very kind..

Trust me, I agree with you that dissent and criticism is important and should not be censored. However, when it becomes personal or obscene, it should no longer be tolerated. The moderator on this site does not need my support as she is fully capable of explaining and defending her actions. However, from my experience this site is extremely free and it is the rare case when she needs to intervene. I also think that people who only want positive statements should re-think their stance, as well. If someone is upset with the price or how the pre-sale went off, they have the right if not the duty to criticize. Many Deadheads have had a long and honorable tradition of bitchin' and moanin'. Doesn't mean they don't love the band any less. Now its my turn to upset some people. I do not want to see Donna Jean anywhere near any of the shows unless she is in the audience dancing with me. "Let there be songs to fill the air."

I might have to investigate that cook book then! Thanks for the heads up!

bring Back Donna Jean,, and for the msg show they will drop TC down on a giant pipe organ from the rafters as he breaks into saint stephan.. you heard it here first sports fans...you bring up some very good points Pomo..but if Donna Jean is dancing next to you give me a call ok..

Go to "Shakedown Street' forum then click on "Hot Fresh Veggie Burritoes " thread ..I definately need to get it... Happy Panda

Re: Donna Jean.... I know, it's kinda mean, but I still remember the bumper sticker I once saw... "Donna Jean ruined my tapes"

I'm gonna go check it out...

Maybe it is no coincidence that Warren is playing this tour with them...The fact that he was the chosen 1 perfectly sets up the potential for a Dead / Allman's Summer Tour. The Allman's currently have nothing scheduled after the Beacon run, the Dead's tour is fairly short with almost no West Coast shows & Derek Trucks isn't booked after the end of April... I may be crazy but I have a feeling that there is something to this & the potential is there for Outdoor show Heaven in Summer 09'! if this proves true, maybe they'll pull Levon & the Boys along for the ride, the Ghost of Watkins Glen Tour!!!It's no sin to dream... As for Warren and all of his detractors, give the guy a break & the respect he deserves. Personally, I have no doubt that he will more then step up to the plate. Let us not forget that he sings like a bird, none of the other short list candidates to my knowledge have the vocal talent or range to pull it off. He is the complete package & will surprise, I guarantee it. Hail! Hail! Rock N' Roll!

Funny, I remember hearing her interview on Tales From the Golden Road...talking about her cooking, vending, shows ect. Thanks again!