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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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    Grateful Dead -- Kresge Plaza, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA-- May 6, 1970 Free Concert -- nationwide campus strikes to protest Kent State killings Disk 1 (Reel 1) [47:03]: 1. /Dancin' In The Streets [16:38] 2. Lost Kid Announcement/Tuning/Crowd [1:11] 3. China Cat Sunflower // -> [4:16] 4. // Jam -> I Know You Rider [6:12] 5. Next Time You See Me [4:03] 6. Morning Dew [11:15] 7. Tuning/Crowd (to end of reel) [:38] Disk 2 (Reel 2) [41:13]: 1. Tuning/Crowd [1:17] 2. Good Lovin'-> Drums-> Good Lovin' [14:43] 3. Casey Jones [5:20] 4. St. Stephen-> [6:00] 5. Not Fade Away [12:09] Source: Mastered by David Gans 2/2000 -- Details -- MSR (MIT Reels) 1/2 Track Mono -> Otari MX 55 2 track (playback) -> TC 2000 Studio Effects Processor (using only the A->D converter, no effects) -> Sonic Solutions (at 20 bits resolution) -> mastered to CD using Sony SBM 2 (No DAT generations) -> CD (from Gans) > EAC > SHN Gans version as for other shn set, SHNed by M. Hall (not sure if this copy got into wide circulation) I did`nt see this one in the vindex so I think it`s open, pending approval. Hope you all enjoy this and of course Thank`s go out to David Gans for taping this show !!
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    Hey everyone, Hope everyone is having a happy Easter and enjoying the posting the Greensboro setlist. I am curious to know if PK is still receiving vines?? I have a vine that is set to go to him. Just need to know if I need to skip him. Peter
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    Thanks Oroboros. Sounds great! Boy, are we keeping Mary busy! "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    Thanks for the new ABB. How about some old stuff as well?
    Do you all have the '73 NYE ABB with Jerry & Billy? ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND 12-31-73 Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA Source: FM Broadcast > reel to reel > ? > CD DISC I Set 1: Bill Graham intro 1. Wasted Words 2. Done Somebody Wrong 3. One Way Out 4. Stormy Monday 5. Midnight Rider 6. Blue Sky 7. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed ~ !!!! Happy New Year !!!!!! Set 2 8. Statesboro Blues ~ DISC II Set 2: (continued) 1. Southbound ~ 2. Come and Go Blues 3. Ramblin' Man 4. Trouble No More 5. Jessica 6. Les Bres in a Minor drums > 7. Les Bres in a Minor ~ original tapes had the 'warble' on these songs DISC III Set 2: (continued) 1. Whipping Post Whipping Post Jam * 2. Mary Lou * 3. Hideaway * You Upset Me * 4. Bo Diddley * DISC IV Set 2: (continued) 1. Mountain Jam * 2. Bo Diddly * break Save My Life * Blues Jam Set 3 You Don't Love Me * 3. Will the Circle Be Unbroken * 4. Mountain Jam * * Jerry Garcia-guitar, Billy Kreutzmann-drums, and a very drunk Boz Skaggs- vocals ;o- The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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(from Hal R - for posterity sake) wait one more thing We forgot to mention how listening to vines will open your senses to the wonders of nature; give you the keys to universal knowledge; open the gates of mystic revelation; expand cosmic consciousness; empower your inner Buddha and Christ natures; have you become one with the Tao; grant you inner peace; lead to new friendships; put you in blissful states; plant a permanent smile on your face; give you a huge sense of humor and wit; make you shake your bones throughout the day and just plain be filled with joy and innate coolness as you groove through life. On the other hand, never mind. Peace. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Thanks all! Marye, Ericat and all the others that had a hand in this. It is truly a privilege to be able to collect and share music here. Just 6 months ago I only dreamed that I could have such amazing quality and such an abundance of hours. It was seriously a dream. I am GRATEFUL. Vine on! "I had a hard run, runnin' from your window."
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Great work on the new vines section you guys, thanks alot. If its alright I'd like to offer up this one. There is no post-jerry dead in vindex. The Dead Thursday, July 10, 2003 Red Rocks Amphitheater Morrison, CO Neumann u89i(Subcard/NOS)->Lunatec V3@16/48khz w/ANSR on DA-20->VX Pocket->Wavelab(resampled to 44.1khz)->CDWAV->Flac 16 Disc 1: Set I 1. Jam-> 2. Help On the Way-> 3. Slipknot!-> 4. Here Comes Sunshine-> 5. Hard To Handle 6. Down the Road Again-> 7. Tennessee Jed-> 8. Broken Arrow Disc 2: Set I cont. 1. Dark Star-> 2. Bertha Set II 3. Blackbird@-> 4. New Minglewood Blues 5. Eyes Of the World-> 6. Dark Star Jam-> 7. Drums/Space-> Disc 3: Set II cont. 1. China Doll-> 2. The Wheel-> 3. Dark Start-> 4. Throwing Stones-> 5. Franklin's Tower 6. Encore Break 7. Organ Donor Rap 8. Loose Lucy "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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In honor of this wonderful group, I offer up the following shows.gd70-01-02.early-late.sbd.cotsman.18120.sbeok.shnf gd70-01-10.sbd-pitch-corrected.miller.xxxxx.sbeok.flac16 gd70-07-14.sbd.cotsman.17815.sbeok.shnf gd70-07-16.sbd.miller.32551.sbeok.flac16 All are from 1970, there is some scratchiness to some of the tracks but all the shows warm my soul. As always all are offered in both SHN/FLAC and WAV. Please do not sign up before this vine is planted in it's own topic. Enjoy, long live the vineyard. Peace Rick _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead 1-2-70 Fillmore East, New York, NY Disc 1 (63:08) Early Show: 1. Zarathustra introduction--> (1:09) 2. Mason's Children (6:12) 3. Casey Jones (4:27) 4. Black Peter (12:48) 5. Mama Tried--> (2:39) 6. Hard To Handle (4:58) 7. Cumberland Blues (5:49) 8. Cryptical Envelopment--> (2:01) 9. Drums--> (3:56) 10. The Other One%--> (10:14) 11. Cryptical Envelopment--> (1:59) 12. Cosmic Charlie// (6:49) Disc 2 (46:14) Late Show: 1. Uncle John's Band--> (7:19) 2. High Time (7:24) 3. Dire Wolf (4:19) 4. //Easy Wind (7:20) 5. China Cat Sunflower//(-->) (3:36) 6. //I Know You Rider (2:02) 7. Good Lovin' (7:30) 8. Me & My Uncle (3:05) 9. stage banter (1:37) 10. Monkey & The Engineer (1:57) Disc 3 (72:15) Late Show continued: 1. stage banter/tuning (1:34) 2. Dark Star//(-->) (29:59) 3. //St. Stephen--> (5:13) 4. The Eleven--> (12:20) 5. Lovelight% (23:07) _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead - January 10, 1970 Golden Hall - San Diego, CA San Diego Community Concourse Setlist: d1t01 - Stage Banter/Tuning d1t02 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t03 - I Know You Rider d1t04 - Me And My Uncle d1t05 - Dire Wolf d1t06 - Hard To Handle d1t07 - Casey Jones d1t08 - Mason's Children -> d1t09 - Black Peter (Missing but can be found on Disc 7 The Golden Road (1965 - 1973)) d1t10 - Good Lovin' d1t11 - Cold Rain And Snow d2t01 - Turn On Your Lovelight d2t02 - Announcements _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead 7-14-70 Euphoria Ballroom, Disc 1 (51:49) acoustic set: 1. Don't Ease Me In (3:10) 2. //Friend Of The Devil (3:28) 3. stage banter (1:59) 4. Dire Wolf (3:54) 5. stage banter (3:35) 6. Dark Hollow (3:07) 7. //Candyman (4:45) 8. //Black Peter (6:46) 9. //How Long Blues (3:23) 10. Deep Elem Blues% (3:22) 11. Cumberland Blues* (5:13) 12. //New Speedway Boogie* (9:01) Disc 2 (75:07) electric set: 1. Casey Jones (5:05) 2. El Paso (6:05) 3. China Cat Sunflower--> (5:24) 4. I Know You Rider (5:09) 5. //Easy Wind (2:52) 6. Me & My Uncle (3:31) 7. Cryptical Envelopment--> (2:07) 8. Drums--> (7:10) 9. The Other One--> (10:12) 10. Cryptical Envelopment--> (5:18) 11. Cosmic Charlie (8:23) 12. Good Lovin'% (6:18) 13. Uncle John's Band (7:26) *with David Crosby on acoustic (Garcia is on electric) _+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ Grateful Dead - July 16, 1970 Euphoria Ballroom - San Rafael, CA Setlist: d1t01 - //China Cat Sunflower -> d1t02 - I Know You Rider -> d1t03 - Candyman d1t04 - Turn On Your Lovelight
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Nice way to start off the new topic. Thanks. Thanks to Trevor, also, although my taste runs to pre 1981-82 stuff. OK, call me a snob, I can take it. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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There was a note on the old "new vines" topic about labeling the packages - but I would rather have documentation about what vine it is & set lists etc.. on the INSIDE of the package - to help prevent theft (not an indictment of our US postal workers - but decorating the outside can lead to temptation). As for keeping track of the vines, I use an excel spreadsheet to track vines. Sample Vine Tracking Spredsheet In this sample, I have deleted everyone's name & address - which i collect through the vining process (for vining purposes only - so i don't have to constantly ask for addresses). It consists of 4 tabsTab 1 - expected vines (sort by expected date & update frequently) Tab 2 - completed vines (copy from Tab1 to here as they get done - for historical purposes) Tab 3 - names & addresses Tab 4 - a copy of the vinedex (for local reference) Tab 5 - vines I have started (again - for historical purposes) with all the time we put into keeping the music flowing, it only makes sense to do it in an organized way & keep track of things. Note that Tabs 1 & 2 have url links back to this site, for easy status checking. It's really not much effort at all - as you're sitting there burning the discs, you just update the spreadsheet.
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...waiting for the new topics to show up ;^). Good job for sure erickat. I appreciate having things clearly spelled out, esp. the items that can result in a viner getting skipped. "No response in 3 - 4 days" is helpful, and setting a deadline was something that had prevented me from getting started on anything like this (well, that and the fact that I'm still fairly new here and didn't want to be pushy). The item regarding checking in periodically is good, too - several of the currently missing vines are involved there, viners mailing out vines to others who are known to be missing, or being at the end and not checking back for new signups. I don't think these guidelines will have a negative effect on the playground here, although as one viner stated a couple of months ago: "I've read some pretty restrictive rules on other sites & even though we have some hiccups here now & again, it's a much more free & open environment" I think the environment here is safe ;^) Cheers! MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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this new system is MUCH quicker.
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us all to remember what we forgot (or didn't know). Grate job you guys! The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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very nice , this should eliminate some confusion for sure .. Grate job guy`s !!
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the small correction :-) thanks erickat and Marye and everyone else too. I am in Banda Aceh, the city destroyed by the tsunami in Dec 2004. Puts my little problems and complaints into perspective.
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Here are 2 more shows. I have checked the vindex plus the official releases and do not see these shows listed: 4/5/69 and 7/18/72. Notes for both shows: SBD sources; seamless tracks; very good sound quality; audio wav format; a total of 6 CDRs San Francisco, CA Avalon Ballroom (4/5/69) CD 1 Dupree’s diamond blues Mountains of the moon Dark Star > St. Stephen Lovelight Hard to Handle (Set 2 Starts) Cosmic Charlie CD 2 China Cat Sunflower Doing that rag Cryptical envelopment > The other one > Cryptical envelopment > The eleven jam It’s a sin Alligator > Feedback We bid you good night Jersey City, NJ Roosevelt Stadium (7/18/72) CD 1 Bertha (some stitches at beginning during opening chords) Me and My Uncle Bird Song Promised Land Sugaree Black Throated Wind China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Jack Straw Loser CD2 Beat it on Down the Line Stella Blue El Paso Casey Jones Playing in the Band Brown Eyed Women Tennessee Jed CD3 Truckin' Dark Star Comes a Time (audience recording patch inserted at 3:32) Sugar Magnolia CD4 Ramble On Rose Greatest Story Ever Told Mississippi Half-Step Sing Me Back Home Not Fade Away Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad Not Fade Away E: One More Saturday Night (missing)
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...if you happen by a temple please light some incense for me. I had nightmares about the tsunami, I can't imagine living through something like that Cheers, and stay well, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Grateful Dead - 4/13/84Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA Set 1: d1t01 - Keep Your Day Job -> d1t02 - New Minglewood Blues d1t03 - Dire Wolf d1t04 - Beat It On Down The Line -> d1t05 - West L.A. Fadeaway d1t06 - It's All Over Now d1t07 - Bird Song d1t08 - Hell In A Bucket -> d1t09 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d2t01 - Scarlet Begonias -> d2t02 - Fire On The Mountain d2t03 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t04 - Drums -> d3t01 - Space -> d3t02 - The Wheel -> d3t03 - Truckin' -> d3t04 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> d3t05 - Around And Around -> d3t06 - Good Lovin' Encore: d3t07 - U.S. Blues Grateful Dead - April 14, 1984 Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA Set 1: d1t01 - Feel Like A Stranger d1t02 - They Love Each Other d1t03 - C.C. Rider d1t04 - Brown Eyed Women d1t05 - My Brother Esau d1t06 - Tennessee Jed d1t07 - Let It Grow Set 2: d1t08 - Touch Of Grey d2t01 - Playin' In The Band -> d2t02 - Terrapin Station -> d2t03 - Playin' Jam -> d2t04 - I Don't Need Love -> d2t05 - Drums -> d2t06 - Space -> d2t07 - Morning Dew -> d2t08 - One More Saturday Night Tease -> d2t09 - Throwing Stones -> d2t10 - One More Saturday Night Encore: d2t11 - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
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This will be a DVD vine - the two hampton shows, the city island show, 6/23/84 - Grateful Dead City Island - Harrisburg, PA Recording Info: (FOB) Senn 441 -> PCM -> Dat .. Set 1: d1t01 - Alabama Getaway -> d1t02 - Promised Land d1t03 - Peggy-O d1t04 - Little Red Rooster d1t05 - Brown Eyed Women d1t06 - My Brother Esau d1t07 - Big Railroad Blues d1t08 - The Music Never Stopped -> d1t09 - Don't Ease Me In Set 2: d1t10 - Touch Of Grey d2t01 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t02 - Eyes Of The World -> d2t03 - Drums -> d2t04 - Space -> d2t05 - Truckin' -> d2t06 - Spoonful Jam -> d2t07 - Black Peter -> d2t08 - Around And Around -> d2t09 - Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad -> d2t10 - One More Saturday Night d2t11 - (Encore) Day Job
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The "Hampton April 84" vine will be Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 04/13/84 & 04/14/84 City Island - Harrisburg, PA 6/23/84 On a DVD - Hampton in Flac, City Island in SHN Thanks You may want to come up with a more creative name like Hampton & Harrisburg 84 or something
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Sorry - next time, I'll do the space calculation ahead of time. I'm going to add 3/29/84 to this vine... so it's Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 04/13/84 Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA 04/14/84 City Island - Harrisburg, PA 06/23/84 San Rafael, CA 03/29/84 On a DVD +R Grateful Dead - March 29, 1984 Marin Veterans Memorial Auditorium San Rafael, CA Recording Info: SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cassette (Maxell XLIIS-90) Transfer Info: Cassette (Sony TC-WE475) -> Sony R500 (Pass Through) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) Transferred and Edited By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 22, 2006 Patch Info: Tape flip in Eyes Of The World patched with Sony ECM-939LT stereo mics(x2) > Cass Master > Sound Forge > CD Notes: -- Thanks to Paul Scotton and Joani Walker for the Cassettes. -- Seamless transition between discs. Set 1: d1t01 - Walking The Dog d1t02 - Bertha -> d1t03 - The Promised Land d1t04 - It Must Have Been The Roses d1t05 - Little Red Rooster d1t06 - Bird Song d1t07 - My Brother Esau d1t08 - Might As Well Set 2: d1t09 - Tuning d1t10 - Shakedown Street d2t01 - Tuning d2t02 - Estimated Prophet -> d2t03 - Eyes Of The World -> d2t04 - Drums -> d2t05 - Space -> d2t06 - Spanish Jam -> d2t07 - The Other One -> d2t08 - Wharf Rat -> d2t09 - Sugar Magnolia Encore: d2t10 - Keep Your Day Job
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I have been dying to get 10/31/70 Stony Brook. I think there were two shows that date, but I NEED the one with the LAST Viola Lee Blues. Being the good soldier that I am, I looked in the Vindex and noticed that the Repatriation Vine had at least one of the shows in the vine. Two problems: One, I cant tell which of the two 10/31 shows was included. Two, the vine seems to have been taken out of circulation due to "overhandling." Can we re-vine it? How about a "Last Time Performed" Vine that includes this show and maybe two or three others where classic stuff was "retired.' Revivals by Phil, Ratdog, Other Ones, the Dead don't count as "unretiring." For example when was the last time they played The Eleven? Or was it revived? Obviously, there are a number of Pigpen songs that would fit the bill. What do you guys think? Thanks for listening. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Here's the link to the repatriation vine.PM Estim8ed with your mailing address & sign up at the link below http://www.dead.net/forum/repatriation-vine-1-13-1970?page=5 This vine has both the early & late shows for 10/31/70. Viola Lee is on the Early show. You will need to be able to read DVD & convert from FLAC to WAV
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I will."Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Any one have this or able to vine this?? I am wanting to get a hold of this show.
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Looks like Binghamton 5/2/70 is Dick's Picks volume 8sorry
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with the new systme in order I find myself wanting to keep coming back to see if the new vine has a home yet .. can i sing up yet can i sing up yet .. Nope Marye has`nt got to it yet ..makes it more interesting and diferent for sure .. the anticipation is killing me .. LOL .. I`m patient and i do like the new systme ..
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Thanks!!! I don't know how I missed that one. Heading to the online store right now.
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Hey wats up Erickat , Ok, so can you start a vine on ur PS3? Im on the PS3 now and I can post comments on forums and topics, but I can't get into the chat room. The chat room screen shows up, but where everybodys chatting is complely blank.Any answers to this maddnes? Anyone? This is probably a good question for Marye. thanx, Phatmoye
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PS3 - PC, Mac etc... nobody but the sysops can start a new thread - and there is no file sharing or downloading - the vines are just descriptions & sign-up lists - and have to be approved by the sysops (read Marye). The actual music is sent, physically, via snail mail on cd or dvd media. If you are signed in, you should be able to chat - it may be that you need particular software support for chatting - not sure what browser the PS3 uses.
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Here's a note about the PS3 and Internet access ... "esssential PC software such a Java Updates, Adobe, or Flash Player cannot be downloaded by the individual, rather they must wait for a software update from Sony. This means of number of online video sites cannot be watched, leading to a frustrating search for ones that do (You Tube appears to be one that works consistently)." Dead.net uses Gagalive chat - not sure if it's supported on the PS3 Source Of This Info
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Heres one to represent 86. Grateful Dead - April 22, 1986 Community Theatre - Berkeley, CA Recording Info: Set 1: SBD -> PCM -> Dat -> Sonic Solutions -> CD -> EAC -> FLAC Set 2: SBD -> PCM -> Dat -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC (2 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By David Gans and Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net May 18, 2006 Notes: -- Disc change is seamless -- Thanks to David Gans for the Set 1 disc and Set 2 Dat -- Truckin' tease before and after Spoonful Set 1: d1t01 - Box Of Rain -> d1t02 - Visions Of Johanna d1t03 - Mama Tried -> d1t04 - Big River d1t05 - Bird Song d1t06 - Little Red Rooster d1t07 - Deal set 2: d1t08 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t09 - I Know You Rider -> d1t10 - Looks Like Rain d2t01 - Terrapin Station -> d2t02 - Drums -> d2t03 - Space -> d2t04 - Spoonful -> d2t05 - Throwing Stones -> d2t06 - Black Peter -> d2t07 - Turn On Your Lovelight Encore: d2t08 - Brokedown Palace "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Ok so pkpotter recently sent me copy's of both nights of the Alpine Valley Family Reunion 8-3-02 and 8-4-02. We both agree that they are important shows but they are both very rough recordings and all of the disc's have one track that plays all the way through. I was thinking about starting a vine for them but I have a couple of questions. Does anyone out there have better recordings of these shows? and if not would anyone be interested in signing up for a vine for these even with the shows as rough as they are now? "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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before I launch this BCT vine, would it make sense to confer amongst ourselves and see if we can put together the rest of the run? Which, as I recall, was pretty good?
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I have sent in a request to the seeders and I will begin leaching 4/18,19 & 21 as soon as the request is filled. More to come when I am finished.Peace Rick
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I usually just vine single shows that I get that havent been vined yet. If anyone ever has anything that they would like to add to one of my vines its always cool. Thanks everyone, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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I was just having flashbacks to those shows. Handing out flyers to total strangers about this computer network thing...
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Im sure that we will be able to put this vine together. oh and Im about recieve 15 or so early 1969 shows so keep an eye out everyone. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Yep, should be outa blank CDs any time now. And marye's having flashbacks. Cool! You'll have to name the vine after her ;^D ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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I know we spoke of this before - and I'm not intending to be negative or cast aspersions on anyone - but we do continue to have the issue of missing vines - and a pattern I've seen develop is that someone joins Dead.net and having only been a member for a day or two, signs up for every vine available - then dissapears. (or becomes overwhelmed & doesn't track what they signed up for). We saw this with FadDad82, Billy S, and a couple of others that I can't recall at the moment. We may not be able to prevent that - but we can keep an eye out for similar patterns. Anyway - the point i want to make here is that while this is a free & beautiful thing we have going on, it's up to us to be vigilant - so go ahead and make that decision to skip people who are known to have dissapeared with other vines, or who aren't responding. PK - don't appologise - it definitely is up to you (and all of us) to decide to skip them when it makes sense - I really appreciate the way that MarkInTheDark and others have stepped up lately - This thing is what we make it - and while I continue to preach no hard feelings, I can't help but say - "Don't send that vine to someone who already has disapeared with 5 others". - it's just common sense. Thanks
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Im always up for re-seeding vines that I have and have since gone missing (audio disc's only, becuase of my lack of a dvd burner). I will usually need awhile to do it though. So let me know if I can help with any of them. Peace, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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hmm I see the problem. Maybe we should encourage all new people to introduce themselves on the Meet the Viners forum. Folks who take the trouble to do that and say a little about themselves are maybe more community minded and less likely to kidnap vines.
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with some of the new viners not sure how to sign up , maybe the vining instructions should be moved to the header of the vineyard itself instead of under new vines 09 ,. just a thought . good night folks ..
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He's signed on to *all* the vines tonight. Hell, when I started I only signed up on five or six a night before I felt like a pig and quit (actually, my fingers got tired). That's OK, seems like a decent 'head upgrading his tape stash, and if he messes up we can just hunt him down and throw him in the wood chipper like we did the last guy ;^) MarkinthewaywayDark PS As long as we're all here, can I (or somebody) go ahead and delete Billy S from any vines his name is still on? I've been moving him to the end of lists as he comes up, but with all the new folks showing up since the ticket-sale-population-boom maybe it would be better if BS just disappeared. There's a couple of other "known to be no longer vining" names that could also be edited out, I think. Perhaps we can compare notes and vote or something. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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I think that is too much to keep up with unless he doesn't work. That is putting a lot of seeders and reseeders and viners work on one person to carry through with and keep up with in a short time frame. Would someone be willing to write him a pm and ask if he knows what he is getting into? Maybe he does and that is cool but then again that is a lot to take on if he is new to vining. .He could be getting like 20 vines or so a week at some point. We have a large backlog. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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5 vines gone and no contact.go for it MarkintheDark If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake