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    joennn24
    9 years 4 months ago
    Mix
    Listened to KFOG replay and the mix had Trey so out front I couldn't hear the rest of the band. Could just be the radio replay, but I wanna hear Phil, Bobby and the rest of the band. Can't wait to see it at the movie theater on Friday (and maybe Saturday and Sunday)
  • goverlid
    9 years 4 months ago
    Write on, Bros. Stephen & Eric!
    Thanks for my morning eye-opener!!
  • Eric Abrahamson
    9 years 4 months ago
    Fare Thee Well Grateful Dead, Pt. 2
    Watch 'em knock 'em dead in Chicago. I must've gone to at least 100 shows. The first one was in 1966 in the Golden Gate Park Panhandle, or the Furthur Fesival at San Francisco State College, whichever was first. I actually felt like Phil was addressing me personally when he made his speech at the end and thanked everyone for coming out, because I tried to get tickets to as many Phil Lesh and Friends at Terrapin Crossroads shows as I could. He came up to me there and let me say, "Hi," which rock stars don't have to do. However I couldn't afford to follow Bobby around like I used to, and he always lets me know, which is flattering that he invited me. He sang a song about losing money, which is true. He sang some other songs which might have been directed at me, and I instinctively responded by singing along. Then, at the beginning of the last song, "Fare Thee Well, My Honey", "Brokedown Palace", I thought he was like, he wanted me to sing along, so I did, and then he ended it abruptly, got in line with their arms on their shoulders, did their bow, and it was over, but I'm planning to see the live stream of all 3 Chicago shows at Terrapin Crossroads. When I went to UCI in 1987, my dad gave me $100,000/year, an apartment in grad student housing, a car, and a bunch of credit cards on his account. They tracked me into the Information and Computer Science major. Then he came down and took some of the credit cards back, and my sister took all 6 of my Irvine Meadows Grateful Dead tickets. Like William Burroughs wrote, "When did they ever give anything that they didn't take back if they could, and they always could!" and he went to Harvard. I went out and bought 6 more, at the inflated price of $50, for $300, and canceled the aftershow party at my apartmnent I'd posted on the Well. Because of losing the credit cards, I got a bad grade and had to go to CSUB. Laurie Senit moved in, and life was pretty good. We lived across from the campus in an apartment complex with 4 swimming pools and 4 jacuzzis, the 2nd best in town. My parents bought me a brand-new Toyota Tercel. Then my mom said, "We're going to send the two of you to Hawaii. Pick out a hotel from this brochure." I picked the Big Island because I'd been to Maui, and the Kona Hilton because the Dead liked Hiltons. In nearby Paradise Cove the scuba boat captain claimed he was on a first-name basis with Jerry. When Jerry died the Rolling Stone article said his house was in Kona, which I didn't know, and gave the name of his dive shop. I called information and the dive shop, they said it was across the street from the Kona Hilton, and Jerry probably did used to go scuba diving at Paradise Cove. They were showing videos of him scuba diving tonight. That's why I wanted to do it, but I had to do it straight, not being a rock star. I proposed to Laurie on the beach in Kona. We stopped at my parents' house in San Francisco on our way home. My dad, James Abrahamson, had 3 restaurants, Pam Pam East on Geary and Taylor, Rosebud's English Pub next door, and Biff's Coffee Shop on 28th and Broadway in Oakland, and he sold institutional furniture, commission contract sales, for Thonet and American Chair Co., and later Serta Mattress, in the Merchandise Mart on 10th and Market. My mother, Lucille Abrahamson, was elected to the San Francisco School Board twice, two years as President, worked in Mayor Dianne Feinstein's Office of Childcare, and was appointed S.F. Human Rights Commissioner by Mayor Frank Jordan, the former Police Chief. I told them we were engaged and my Dad said, "Don't marry her, I can't afford it. We sold the restaurants to Mama's, they went bankrupt, didn't pay, we went to court, the judge fined me $160,000, and they wanted me to declare bankruptcy." My little brother said later it was his half-partner, Bill Munro, the manager's fault. He abused the help, especially the head cook, who really ran the place, the union went on strike, won so many benefits they had to go out of business and sell it. Munro had cooked the books, the judge saw it, and hence the fine. My dad said it was because I had spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts, but I don't think that was correct, although I may have spent too much money. They wanted me to go to this psychiatrist in Bakersfield, Dr. Perelli-Minetti, who was a nice man. He said the Grateful Dead was OK. He was always telling me expensive restaurants to which to take Laurie, like where he took his wife, and encouraged me to spend lots of money on her, buy expensive dresses, jewelry, etc, so I thought it was OK. He gave me Risperdal when it first came out, in 1994. We didn't really go to that many Grateful Dead concerts. My dad didn't like the Grateful Dead and Bill Graham for other reasons. When I first got back from the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock, I tried to turn him on, he thought about it for a minute and decided no, he was afraid to get busted, he was too square to get on the bus. Later he said that Bill Graham had applied to join their Jewish men's club, the Concordia-Argonaut, on Van Ness and Geary, and that he was going to vote against him. Not only was he a hippie, and made his money that way, but he was an orphan, an immigrant, and a Holocaust survivor. What it really was is that Graham was more successful than him in the role of Jewish businessman. My brother moved to Mill Valley, said he saw Graham's house and was impressed. Graham made more money than all of them, and he started as a hippie, and that filled squares like my dad with jealousy, anger, envy, and rage. My dad said, "I wish the Grateful Dead were dead," in his outrageous way. When Bill Graham's helicopter crashed on the way home from the Concord Pavilion and they had his funeral in my dad's temple, Temple Emanu-el, my dad said, "I hope it didn't hurt the helicopter!" He even hated them during the Haight-Ashbury and helped the City Fathers drive them out of town. My family was spending a lot of money at first, and I thought they were encouraging me to emulate them. When he first gave me the $100,000/year, the credit cards on his account, and sent me to UCI, my dad was acting like he could afford for me to buy anything I saw that I wanted. Then he told not to buy anything over $200, and I complied. They were all spending lots of money. He had 2 new BMW"s and a new Mercedes-Benz. He and my mom went on a temple tour of Eastern Europe and stayed in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, she said it was a five-star hotel. My sister went to Yale after me, in Art, then got a Masters in Art Education at Stanford, an Ed.D. at Harvard, a J.D. at Cal, got a job in the White House as Assistant Chief-of-Staff to Vice-President H.W. Bush in the Ronald Reagan White House and then Founding Chairman of the Barbara Bush Campaign For Family Literacy (me at UCI) in the President H.W. Bush White House. There's a photo of her and Vice-President H.W. Bush having an audience with Pope John Paul in Sweden, and she is shaking hands with the Pope. That dress must have cost something, not to mention the travel. In her closet I saw hundreds of French gowns, and more shoes than Imelda Marcos. She met this guy from the Council of Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., a USC Professor of International Relations, Jonathan Aronson. He went to Harvard and Stanford in Political Science, and his father was a rich St. Louis banker. They bought a mansion in Bel-Air near the Reagans', put in an Italian marble bathtub, baby grand piano, swimming pool, his self-portrait in the living room, pirates' table, Persian rug, and he drove a Jaguar S3. He said, "We're going to Paris for 2 weeks," "I'm going to Thailand to speak," and they had their son's Bar Mitzvah in Bali, so they didn't hold back on the spending. They took the whole family, including me, to the Club Med in Ixtapa, but they went bankrupt because I spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts! My brother spent $2000 of my dad's money for a Rolex watch to keep up with the other Oshos and flew back and forth to India every few weeks for years. They flew me there, to Europe twice, and to Hawaii twice. I guess my dad was having problems, and he asked me to spend less money, but he didn't really communicate that I should spend less money because he was having financial problems. I was spending too much money on Laurie. So I ignored him. So he took away some credit cards, and I kept spending at the same level. I couldn't comprehend that commission contract sales is an up-and-down business. Then two new credit cards, each with a $5000 limit, came in the mail. I should have sent them back, but I couldn't resist the temptation. Soon I realized that I couldn't let my dad find out about them, because he would take them away, too. I set out to get revenge on him for taking away my credit cards by charging even *more* money. The first thing I did was take Laurie to the most expensive restaurant in Los Angeles, Spago's, $140 for salmon for two. Then the 2nd most expensive, Palms in West Hollywood. Then dresses, jewelry, and when we went to Hawaii we did the same thing with the recreation. Maybe *that's* what drove my dad into near-bankruptcy, not the Grateful Dead concerts. We really didn't go to that many. I just spent a lot of money on her. She just liked to go to movies, comedy clubs, country-western dance halls, miniature golf, roller skating, she was always thinking of something. They cut my allowance from $100,000/year to $40,000/year, my sister and brother-in-law, Joan and Jonathan, became "trustees of your trust fund", keep the Blue Cross PPO. They took away all 12 of my credit cards and defaulted on them, leaving me in debt to the credit card companies for $15,000, with bad credit to this day, since 1993. They raised it up to $60,000 and I moved to New Mexico, near the Castagnas who used to live at the Hog Farm. Alberto asked me to call my mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law and ask each of them for $10,000 for a liver transplant for his Hepatitis C because his job as Director of Taos County Ambulances, working his way up from paramedic and EMT, didn't have good insurance. They said no. Maybe that's what set 'em off. They asked me to go to a psychiatrist, who dismissed me. Then Laurie wanted me to come back to Los Angeles and move in to her apartment. They wanted me to find another psychiatrist. I found psychedelic therapist Dr. Robert Newport online at the Island Group in Santa Cruz, referred by Bruce Eisner, but my sister fought with him and he lost his license for prescribing medications, including Risperdal, without seeing the patients. I called him and he said, "Did your sister let up on you yet? I'm not a psychiatrist any more, I'm a painter." So they took me to Dr. Lisa Fine, who also gave me Risperdal, which gave me diabetes. Laurie got it too, from Seroquel. They found the diabetes when a cardiolgist wanted to do an emergency heart surgery,an angiogram and an angioplasty. My brother drove my sister-in-law's Ford Escort to L.A. from Sedona. They said they were going to give it to me. He showed it to me and said, "This is your car." They said they were going to give it to me after the surgeries, but they changed their mind and never did. My car had totally broken down at a job interview in Irvine just a few days before my appointment with the cardiologist, who decided I was going to have emergency heart surgery. When I recovered I stopped by at some friends from the Cubensis shows and they talked me into starting going to shows again, to the Phil Lesh and Friends show and the Ratdog show at the Wiltern, and the Ratdog show at the House of Blues. I'd told Richie on the phone I'd stopped going to shows when Jerry died and he'd said, "I did too." They had a picture of them with the 4 original members in an airport on the way to a concert called The Dead. After that, this psychologist Eric Asa-Dorian from the Life Adjustment Team, probably a drug rehab, they said her mother called, shows up in our living room, posing as a Deadhead, except with more, better tickets than me. Then they got me to go to LAT and I never knew it was a drug rehab, it was disguised as marriage counseling or something. In the end they took the $60,000/year except for meds, medical bills, Anthem Blue Cross PPO, SSI, and put me in Brentwood Manor board-and-care home for two years, I think illegally, before I had learned how to treat the diabetes, so it had developed another complication besides the heart disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetic neuropathy, or diabetic nerve pain, or "burning feet". When they moved me out of Laurie's apartment 12 years ago with the Comcast that was the last time they let me have cable, except for a brief period. No police, no arrest, no charges, no hearing, no trial, no sentence, no jail, no prison, no due process. No evidence or proof that *I* ever did anything wrong, as far as I'm concerned, frames and smears I've never heard, let alone allowed to answer. I said I'd sue all of them for $2 billion for attempted murder, elder financial abuse, false imprisonment, psychiatric torture, medical malpractice, emotional anguish, pain and suffering, and my attorney, Bruce Margolin, who'd been Timothy Leary's attorney (I went to a fundraiser they had at Timothy Leary's house in Beverly Hills when he was running for State Senator), said, "Where'd you get the $2 billion?" so $200 million is more in the range, I think. I had to get a job selling Sprint phones B2B to small businesses in the South, work my way out of there and get some financial aid from Cal State East Bay. I'd been a junior Computer Science major at Cal State Northridge when I was living with Laurie before the surgeries. And Tina Kimmel, a Cal Ph.D. in Social Work I met at the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock got my sister to give me a $68,000 annuity that my dad left me, so that was pretty good, so I got to go to Monterey and Camp Winnarainbow, and they're paying for a lot of things now. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. I'm still a senior Computer Science major and pre-law. Afterwards Alberto died, I called Richie from the board-and-care, he called my sister, I called him back, and he had terminal liver cancer. Alberto flew out and carved his tombstone, and he picked out wood for Tinker to make his coffin, but my sister wouldn't give me $100 to visit him at Camp Winnarainbow before he died. Steve had died of hep C. Then Hunter Thompson committed suicide. When I was going to the LAT psychiatrist to whom they forced me to go, I emailed Cap'n Skypilot to post something I could show him on his office computer, and he wrote a story about a man whose parents he said were responsible for the death of Ken Kesey and the assassination of JFK. When I got up here Vince Welnick committed suicide. I ran into Lou Todd, then he got sick and died, and then Tinker, who I once saw drive the Furthur bus. Charlene said her landlady wouldn't rent her house anymore, she moved in with her daughter; her other daughter got accused of murder, and she didn't do it. Laurie's elementary schoolteacher friend's apartment caught on fire and they blamed her. My Deadhead lawyer friend said his SUV caught on fire. I can't figure out the reason for all this. I would be interested if anybody, especially with legal knowhow, had any helpful advice. I'm thinking of appealing to my Yale classmates, to see if any of them are big-time lawyers yet, and I don't think any Democratic politicians have seen it, since most of them don't have email addresses. They were telling people I was dying, but the doctors said my numbers were good, so you can't die from controlled diabetes, maybe it was just wish-fulfillment. And Jerry famously died of a diabetic heart attack in a drug rehab, maybe someone got ideas. While I was in Brentwood the lawyer sent me a copy of the trust instrument where my parents had initialed that when my mom dies, the inheritance, which it originally says was divided into thirds between me, my brother, and sister, they rubbed me out and divided it in half between my brother and sister. She'll get my mom's house worth about $2 million, and she has a $4.3 million house in Bel-Air, and a house in Telluride, and my dad bought my brother a house in Sedona. I was living in Laurie's apartment. My brother will get my dad's commercial property in Oakland, a tire and party store. And there's some money they'll divide in half. Eric Abrahamson Yale University Class of '71 Pierson College
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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I'm willing To bet that they will release Red Rocks Box set of some sort. It makes sense. The Dead played there lots and had some mighty fine shows there, yet Red Rocks and Colorado have only one release in the road trips series and a filler on Dicks Picks. We shall see...
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Dick's Picks 16 is my favorite from '69. Why? Well...I'm glad you asked. 1) The Tom Constanten / Pigpen Double-Hammond Assault Team 2) The 3-part Dark Star weave, which includes the only performance of Uncle John's Band JAM 3) Venue = Fillmore West, so you know it's hot. In fact, this show is like the Fillmore West box set on high octane, because it features the best songs of that early '69 run (i.e. Dark Star / St. Stephen / The Eleven / The Other One); PLUS a set of songs that made it into the live repertoire after the Fillmore West box set was performed (as this show is from November): Casey Jones, China Cat, Rider, Cumberland Blues, etc. I listen to this show sparingly, so as not to wear it out (kind of like Exile on Main St, Quadrophenia, & The White Album)
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Fillmore West (formerly 'The Carousel Ballroom') was located at Market and S. Van Ness whereas the Fillmore Auditorium (the venue of DP 16) is located (and still exists) at Fillmore and Geary. So they are not the same place. Doesn't diminish DP 16 in the least as a superb release. I just wanted to clarify things pertaining to venue a little for the prior poster in case things are unclear.
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Viola Lee Blues ; Midnight Hour (Midnight Hour is A+) BIODTL and a few other songs, plus a Jam with I believe Jorma and Jack Cassady. Seems to be very rare stuff. Dicks Picks 16. One of my favorite Dire Wolf and High Time. Wow 1969 shows that need to be considered. Has a lot so I will leave out box set stuff/compilation material runs like Ark, Avalon, other Fillmore West/East 2-7-69 Stanley Theater 2-22-69 Dream Bowl 3-28-69 Modesto 10-25-69 Winterland 11-2-69 Family Dog 11-7-69,, I think all these shows have Dark Star and plenty of other treats to offer. And anything from December 26-31, 1969. I will also take 1-2-70. The Dark Star is that good
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We always speak of the years and band formations and specific shows we'd like to find released. Just a mention that there are also many fabulous, storied venues which are unrepresented by official releases. This would be a perfect year to address that. The two that top my list: Red Rocks, CO The Avalon ballroom
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Yeah, favorite venues. Great idea! For me it would be the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago (acoustically perfect) and Alpine Valley Music Theatre, an outdoor venue in Wisconsin.
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I attended my first Grateful Dead concert, Philadelphia Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA., 1/5/79. This show as well as the one on the following Friday, the 12th were originally scheduled for November, 27 & 28, 1978 however due to Jerry's throat condition 4 shows were postponed & one was cancelled outright. Little did I know that 1/5/79 would change my life forever. My very first listen of the Dead was on 93.3 WMMR on a Sunday night in November 1977 when the Sunday night DJ I believe her name was Cindy Dru had a radio program that aired before the King Biscuit Flower Hour. Every Sunday she would play a complete album of a new release, I remember the week before was Pink Floyd Animals & also I remember her featuring Yes, Going For The One & Bad Company, Straight Shooter so up to her playing Terrapin Station in it's entirety I never listened to the Dead as I was and still am a heavy prog rock guy so the GD were never a band I listened to, however after listening to Terrapin for the 1st time I thought the Dead were a prog rock band, NOT!!! The very first GD album I purchased was Skull & Roses then I bought Terrapin. WALSTIB it's been for me personally. My favorite venue has to be Boston Garden. LIVE LONG & STAY DEAD!!!!!
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Good stuff from the fall '76 midwest tour. The 1st set from 10/3 starts with Sugaree, based upon known setlists and an audience recording. The Bertha, Mama Tried 1st set opener is from 10/1 Indy. Check the Taper's Section from 1/20-26/2014: it features a chunk of 1st set tunes from 10/3. The 2nd set from Indy is featured from the 12/9-13/2013 T.S. I like the tug-of-war between Bob and Jerry in and out of Dancin', notably after the Wheel. Cudos to the late Jerry Moore for making such incredibly good audience tape recordings.Let me mention 10/2: Cinci's excellent 2nd set is featured from the 9/28/2009 T.S. The LMA has Jerry Moore's 10/2 recording.
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Read the comment below, when/where was there a leak on a new hits package?
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original post credit: direwulfamazon listing So the link on Amazon that you speak of is no longer active, however, I did find the listing on what appears to be the Dutch Amazon website and the track listing is given as follows. So if this is actually official and this is the track listing not sure about this one unless the 2015 remastered version actually brings some kind of new insight or dimensions to the music with the new treatment Disk: 1 1. The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) [2015 Remastered Version] 2. Cream Puff War (2015 Remastered Version) 3. Born Cross-Eyed (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Dark Star (2015 Remastered) [Single Version] 5. St. Stephen (2015 Remastered Version) 6. China Cat Sunflower (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Uncle John's Band (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Easy Wind (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Casey Jones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Truckin' (2015 Remastered Version) Alle 19 Titel anzeigen. Disk: 2 1. Terrapin Station (2015 Remastered Version) 2. Shakedown Street (2015 Remastered Version) 3. I Need A Miracle (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Fire On The Mountain (2015 Remastered Version) 5. Feel Like A Stranger (2015 Remastered Version) 6. Far From Me (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Touch Of Grey (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Hell In A Bucket (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Throwing Stones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Black Muddy River (2015 Remastered Version) Original post dated around December 18ish on the DaP 2015 thread
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...I'd put just about every song on there except for Money Money ;)
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....favorite place I saw the Dead? Cal Expo. Beer stations everywhere. Favorite venue that they played, but never saw them there. Ventura Fairgrounds. Saw Phish there a couple times. Turn around and there's the ocean. Freakin' awesome. Did have some sound issues though due to the winds off the beach....
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Sheesh. Twenty freakin' years. We miss you, dude. Check out the Facebook thingy with 12/30/77. That's a nice feature for the 50th. Thank goodness so much of the GD was recorded. Life would be very drab without it.
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This is from Amazon.de (I've also seen a cached page from Amazon.com but it's not yet on the site) The Best of the Grateful Dead [Double CD] Grateful Dead (Artist) | Format: Audio CD Price: EUR 20,99 Free shipping from 29 EUR (books always free shipping). Details All prices incl. VAT. Pre-order Price Guarantee more information . This item appears on 29 January 2015th Order now. Ships from and sold by Amazon . Gift-wrap available. Disk: 1 1. The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) [2015 Remastered Version] 2. Cream Puff War (2015 Remastered Version) 3. Born Cross-Eyed (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Dark Star (2015 Remastered) [Single Version] 5. St. Stephen (2015 Remastered Version) 6. China Cat Sunflower (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Uncle John's Band (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Easy Wind (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Casey Jones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Truckin' (2015 Remastered Version) 11. Box Of Rain (2015 Remastered Version) 12. Sugar Magnolia (2015 Remastered Version) 13. Friend Of The Devil (2015 Remastered Version) 14. Ripple (2015 Remastered Version) 15. Eyes Of The World (2015 Remastered Version) 16. Unbroken Chain (2015 Remastered Version) 17. Scarlet Begonias (2015 Remastered Version) 18. The Music Never Stopped (2015 Remastered Version) 19. Estimated Prophet (2015 Remastered Version) Disk: 2 1. Terrapin Station (2015 Remastered Version) 2. Shakedown Street (2015 Remastered Version) 3. I Need A Miracle (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Fire On The Mountain (2015 Remastered Version) 5. Feel Like A Stranger (2015 Remastered Version) 6. Far From Me (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Touch Of Grey (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Hell In A Bucket (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Throwing Stones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Black Muddy River (2015 Remastered Version) 11. Blow Away (2015 Remastered Version) 12. Foolish Heart (2015 Remastered Version) 13. Standing On The Moon (2015 Remastered Version)
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It ain't the best of the Dead if it only has one song from Blues for Allah. Not even Franklin's Tower? (Should have Help/Slip too of course). The retort might be, "well, then what would you remove to make room?" How about Miracle and Far From Me? Of course, this is all academic since this isn't aimed at us. But if I were trying to turn a newbie on to the Dead, I'd want some more Blues for Allah stuff... One thing is for sure - this is a reminder that their studio output is better than they get credit for, because there are a lot of songs that could be added to this list. You know, I think I'll pull out some of the albums, starting with Shakedown Street (I got a hankerin' for FRANCE!!!)
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More nuggets from one of the greatest time periods in music history. Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven on Sirius today.

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with 6/10 lets add 5/26 as well............73 is fine with me
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Yes, the Fillmore West was where the car dealership holds court at the corner of Van Ness and Market Street. There was a side door on Market street just a stones throw from Van Ness for admission up some stairs to the ballroom. The entrance to the door has been removed and plastered over. You can see the door and people in line for a show on the "Fillmore-the last days" concert documentary. (two great live dead songs in that film - Casey Jones, and JBG) I saw two shows there in my early days. I saw a Santana show before they closed it down, and an Airplane/Hot Tuna show after it was re-birthed briefly as "Resurrection". Cool light shows, cool laid back hang out on the floor scene. At the Santana show, I was moved by the intoxicating combination of sounds and light, and it literally changed my life. I have my Dad to thank for giving me and my date a ride to the show, waiting outside, and taking us home to the south bay. nitecat
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Claney, I so completely agree, where's the Help>Slip>Franklin's?
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Since we're experiencing a lull, I'll chime in . . . :) Back when the Europe '72 box came out, a friend who knew I loved the Dead sent me the news as it was breaking. Although I had ordered EVERY GD release EVER off Dead.net, I didn't receive the e-mail notice until AFTER the set had sold out (if memory serves), so I still thank my friend for allowing me to order the Europe box in time. Anyway, I was transitioning careers at that time, we were cutting corners, and I was pretty stressed out about not being much of a bread-winner. I almost ordered the box immediately (as was my pre-transition wont), thinking, "This is the greatest thing EVER!", but then thought, "This is the most RIDICULOUS thing EVER!", and changed my mind. Had I been making good money, the decision would have been easy, but I couldn't imagine spending $450 at a time when money wasn't flowing so freely. I agonized the entire day, then sheepishly mentioned it to my wife, who promptly and calmly stated that I would always regret not getting it, and that perhaps I should have it, given that music was my main passion, and that I was very careful with money on a daily basis. I sat down and ordered the set post haste, getting in just a few hours before it sold out. I love that woman! Someone mused as to why they couldn't love jam bands if they loved the Dead. I too have tried the Jam Band station (but rarely find anything of interest), and in 1991-1995 followed Phish and the Panic around, and even saw String Cheese at a CO bar for free with about ten other people on a friend's recommendation. But for me, the reason I can't get into the jam bands is the songs and the musical intent. Garcia, Hunter, Weir, and Barlow wrote songs in the Americana vein, reaching back into American music history for musical and lyrical ideas. And then they allowed those ideas developmental space in a jazz-minded manner. The jam bands to me don't have wonderfully-rich melodies, harmonies, and lyrics that I can bask in repeatedly. They seem to mostly be in a funk groove or heading as quickly as they can for a funk groove. That's part of why I haven't seen Phish since 1995--to my ear they went from being a spacey rock band to being a funk band (that, and the hordes of unwashed masses that started showing up at Phish shows during the Dead's demise). The other thing is that it's all about that bass, 'bout that bass . . . Phil's playing is beautiful and contrapuntal, whereas many of the jam band bass players just go for the funk, which gets tiring to my ears after a song or two. Garcia's playing is magnificent, but it's Phil's bass lines that make much of the magic, as Phil is playing something of an upside-down version of the melodies that Jerry is playing. The jam bands too often just are all playing on the same melodic line, which doesn't create a spacious-enough world for me, especially if I could be listening to Beethoven or Coltrane instead. And Claney--excellent perspective on how the countdown was to the celebratory year of our favorite band and phenomenon, NOT a countdown to a consumeristic opportunity! Happy New Year, all!
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Thanks for the kind words folks. Deadheadbrewer, you married well :) Was I serious about France, absolutely! I love that tune (but no, I would not put it on a "best of" collection). And, on the subject of studio Dead, it's also worth noting that a lot of their best playing in the studio came when they were backing other musicians. Jerry's pedal steel on songs like Teach Your Children and Southbound Train. Or Jerry, Phil, and Billy on Crosby/Nash's "Wall Song" - smoking stuff from Jerry there. Or on Crosby's first solo album. Or some of the Slick Kantner stuff..Or how about their playing backing up Bob on Ace (the jam in Playin' is peak studio Dead). Now that would be an interesting compilation...
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I have had many of my friends completely dismiss Phish. A lot of them say simply "I don't like the funk", or "Everything phish plays is funk". THEN I show them an endless amount of Phish that has no funk sound whatsoever. Even at their funkiest in 97/98 Phish was doing a bunch of other stuff including jazz, salsa, ambient, rock etc. So don't dismiss Phish just because its what your "heady/cool" "Deadhead" friends do. I found out over time that a number my "Deadhead" friends, had no idea what the Dead is all about and what goes on musically. The most "heady deadhead" and you cant sit through any of their deep improve, or a song that goes on for more than 5 minutes? Don't listen to any live shows, know any members or albums? I don't think so, I think you like how the skull looks and the association with drugs and being cool. This comment is not directed at anyone here in the comments, just describing some of the people I occasionally have to deal with in my city. I just get tired of poser Deadheads starting nonexistent hate/feuds with/between the Grateful Dead and Phish, its ridiculous and a waste of time. I can only hope that some of these people see the light and start listening to and understanding improvised music. Then a whole world of great music will open up to them. Sorry for the rant.
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On the songs 'Laughing' by David Crosby and 'Mind Left Body' by Grace SLick/Katner, is some of my favorite pieces of recorded music.
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"I can only hope that some of these people see the light and start listening to and understanding improvised music. Then a whole world of great music will open up to them" Why assume that folks who do not like "jam bands" do not understand improvised music? In my opinion The Dead was never a Jam band; yes they jammed on a lot of their songs, but the songs all started as songs, good songs with melodies and lyrics that were not written with the sole purpose of a jam in mind. I get the impression that the opposite is true for jam bands, start with a jam, then write a song around it.
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I haven't read all the comments here, how about a box set of these fabled shows? Granted, the sound check "show" of July 27th is much stronger than the actual event of the 28th, but I like both. All I have in my stash is a rather nice sound check show and an unusual compilation of soundboard, audience, and FM broadcast recording, and all are from multi-generational analogue tapes. A sonic upgrade in store.
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I never stated the words jam band or anything like that in the comment. Improvised music can be in many contexts, I just meant these people I know don't understand what improv is and therefor cant fully appreciate it, or in many cases even understand when its going on or what's happening. Great improv can be found in Coltrane, Miles Davis, Fripp, Hillage, Fruscainte not just jambands. That's what I meant by a whole world of music.
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Jam on Garth. Happy New Years one and all!
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I'll tell you where the four winds dwellIn Franklin's tower there hangs a bell It can ring, turn night to day
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The steam is starting to build on this year marking 50 years of this music we love. Phil is spreading the love at the Crossroads and many venues around the globe are joining in. We need a central spot to give updates and tell our stories. Moving around the different sites is a drag. Where is the TerripanStation?
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Passenger, I so totally agree. The discussion is always best here when people gravitate to one forum (e.g., the Dave's Picks 11 forum). Critical mass is lost when discussions are spread across several areas (even, and especially, when people get "off topic" and bring up all sorts of things). I do not participate in online discussions anywhere else - I just tend to enjoy the comments from this group (not just about the Dead) more than other groups. So, for what it's worth, I second that call to make it easier for us to all focus on one area (perhaps this one).
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great audio, a few cuts. New Potato Caboose and Thats It For The Other One are both very nice. The last few minutes of TIFTOO is classic Dead. I have had this set for quite a while as filler on my copy of 7-8-78 Red Rocks. It is great to finally hear what Dave has had access to. Morning Dew ; New Potato Caboose ; It Hurts Me Too ; Cold Rain And Snow ; Turn On Your Lovelight ; Beat It On Down The Line ; Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment over the last few days Dave has sampled 4-24-66 10-22-67 8-21-68 ,,, all with hearty doses of Pigpen. 1-2-70
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yo, could we get another countdown until something substantive is announced?
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There are tons of bands/artists that stretch out songs and improvise on stage but they are never labeled as a Jam Band or heard on the Jam Band station or whatever... Why not? Who knows/who really cares? I think the main problem is that the bands that generally fall under the "Jam Band" Umbrella aren't the best at songwriting and place most of talents in the jam part...well, it shouldn't be a surprise that if you jam out a boring song, its still going to be boring. I say this but there are some "jam bands" I like but some really are just utterly boring, to me at least. Since I'm posting this post on Dead.net, I obviously think that Garcia/Hunter & Weir/Barlow are some of the best songwriters that ever lived. There were definitely songs that were built with heavy improvising being the main purpose but, for the most part, they were trying to write nice songs and the jams came later (I know some of this was already pointed out in previous post, but its correct). Playing In The Band, Dark Star, & Thats It For The Other One all started out as nice little songs, am I right? I don't really care if a band is considered a jam band or not or jams or not...if they write a good song, I'll listen to them and go to their shows.
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Y'all are hitting the nail on the head with the jamband discussion. You're saying what I've been thinking -- that most of them are too quick to go for the easy groove without enough unpredictable exploration in the rhythm section. No one does it like the GOGD and that's a big part of it. The superior songs themselves are another vital ingredient. There are exceptions of course and your mileage will certainly vary. I'll take raggedy old space case Keith Godchaux over that Furthur virtuoso any day. Interestingly, there is a parallel discussion on classical music going on back at the Dave's #11 board (if you can find it). It also favors expression over technical "perfection".
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The two things that separate the Dead from other bands, IMHO, are the songs of Hunter/Garcia and thewillingness of the band to go together wherever their collective or individual inspiration led, even if it meant they sometimes got lost along the way. It was that willingness to fail on stage that freed them to achieve the transcendent moments.
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Did we really count down the days to get some wallpaper for our computers and phones? I think we were looking for an announcement about something. At least toss us heads a bone to chew on. Peace
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"Did we really count down the days to get some wallpaper for our computers and phones?" Was hoping for some Ringtones! Have a new phone :)
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Still waiting for a 30-minute Dark Star ringtone.
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I'd like Cumberland Blues for my work iphone...

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On an Apple iPhone and Mac, you can make any song you like into a ringtone.Not sure about android. Google it and it's easy to do.........I made a bunch for my iPhone with songs for each person
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Now you got me... as I was half-joking with me post... but! google: apple iphone -- how to make any song into a ringtone? good search strategy?