Grateful Dead

I'm willing To bet that they will release Red Rocks Box set of some sort. It makes sense. The Dead played there lots and had some mighty fine shows there, yet Red Rocks and Colorado have only one release in the road trips series and a filler on Dicks Picks. We shall see...

Dick's Picks 16 is my favorite from '69. Why? Well...I'm glad you asked. 1) The Tom Constanten / Pigpen Double-Hammond Assault Team 2) The 3-part Dark Star weave, which includes the only performance of Uncle John's Band JAM 3) Venue = Fillmore West, so you know it's hot. In fact, this show is like the Fillmore West box set on high octane, because it features the best songs of that early '69 run (i.e. Dark Star / St. Stephen / The Eleven / The Other One); PLUS a set of songs that made it into the live repertoire after the Fillmore West box set was performed (as this show is from November): Casey Jones, China Cat, Rider, Cumberland Blues, etc. I listen to this show sparingly, so as not to wear it out (kind of like Exile on Main St, Quadrophenia, & The White Album)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Fillmore West (formerly 'The Carousel Ballroom') was located at Market and S. Van Ness whereas the Fillmore Auditorium (the venue of DP 16) is located (and still exists) at Fillmore and Geary. So they are not the same place. Doesn't diminish DP 16 in the least as a superb release. I just wanted to clarify things pertaining to venue a little for the prior poster in case things are unclear.

Viola Lee Blues ; Midnight Hour (Midnight Hour is A+) BIODTL and a few other songs, plus a Jam with I believe Jorma and Jack Cassady. Seems to be very rare stuff. Dicks Picks 16. One of my favorite Dire Wolf and High Time. Wow 1969 shows that need to be considered. Has a lot so I will leave out box set stuff/compilation material runs like Ark, Avalon, other Fillmore West/East 2-7-69 Stanley Theater 2-22-69 Dream Bowl 3-28-69 Modesto 10-25-69 Winterland 11-2-69 Family Dog 11-7-69,, I think all these shows have Dark Star and plenty of other treats to offer. And anything from December 26-31, 1969. I will also take 1-2-70. The Dark Star is that good

We always speak of the years and band formations and specific shows we'd like to find released. Just a mention that there are also many fabulous, storied venues which are unrepresented by official releases. This would be a perfect year to address that. The two that top my list: Red Rocks, CO The Avalon ballroom

Yeah, favorite venues. Great idea! For me it would be the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago (acoustically perfect) and Alpine Valley Music Theatre, an outdoor venue in Wisconsin.

I attended my first Grateful Dead concert, Philadelphia Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA., 1/5/79. This show as well as the one on the following Friday, the 12th were originally scheduled for November, 27 & 28, 1978 however due to Jerry's throat condition 4 shows were postponed & one was cancelled outright. Little did I know that 1/5/79 would change my life forever. My very first listen of the Dead was on 93.3 WMMR on a Sunday night in November 1977 when the Sunday night DJ I believe her name was Cindy Dru had a radio program that aired before the King Biscuit Flower Hour. Every Sunday she would play a complete album of a new release, I remember the week before was Pink Floyd Animals & also I remember her featuring Yes, Going For The One & Bad Company, Straight Shooter so up to her playing Terrapin Station in it's entirety I never listened to the Dead as I was and still am a heavy prog rock guy so the GD were never a band I listened to, however after listening to Terrapin for the 1st time I thought the Dead were a prog rock band, NOT!!! The very first GD album I purchased was Skull & Roses then I bought Terrapin. WALSTIB it's been for me personally. My favorite venue has to be Boston Garden. LIVE LONG & STAY DEAD!!!!!

Good stuff from the fall '76 midwest tour. The 1st set from 10/3 starts with Sugaree, based upon known setlists and an audience recording. The Bertha, Mama Tried 1st set opener is from 10/1 Indy. Check the Taper's Section from 1/20-26/2014: it features a chunk of 1st set tunes from 10/3. The 2nd set from Indy is featured from the 12/9-13/2013 T.S. I like the tug-of-war between Bob and Jerry in and out of Dancin', notably after the Wheel. Cudos to the late Jerry Moore for making such incredibly good audience tape recordings.Let me mention 10/2: Cinci's excellent 2nd set is featured from the 9/28/2009 T.S. The LMA has Jerry Moore's 10/2 recording.

I seem to recall that the Carousel Ballroom/Fillmore West was above the Boas car dealership. I rode past it on the streetcar on my way to work at the Emporium.

Read the comment below, when/where was there a leak on a new hits package?

original post credit: direwulfamazon listing So the link on Amazon that you speak of is no longer active, however, I did find the listing on what appears to be the Dutch Amazon website and the track listing is given as follows. So if this is actually official and this is the track listing not sure about this one unless the 2015 remastered version actually brings some kind of new insight or dimensions to the music with the new treatment Disk: 1 1. The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) [2015 Remastered Version] 2. Cream Puff War (2015 Remastered Version) 3. Born Cross-Eyed (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Dark Star (2015 Remastered) [Single Version] 5. St. Stephen (2015 Remastered Version) 6. China Cat Sunflower (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Uncle John's Band (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Easy Wind (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Casey Jones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Truckin' (2015 Remastered Version) Alle 19 Titel anzeigen. Disk: 2 1. Terrapin Station (2015 Remastered Version) 2. Shakedown Street (2015 Remastered Version) 3. I Need A Miracle (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Fire On The Mountain (2015 Remastered Version) 5. Feel Like A Stranger (2015 Remastered Version) 6. Far From Me (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Touch Of Grey (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Hell In A Bucket (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Throwing Stones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Black Muddy River (2015 Remastered Version) Original post dated around December 18ish on the DaP 2015 thread

...I'd put just about every song on there except for Money Money ;)

....favorite place I saw the Dead? Cal Expo. Beer stations everywhere. Favorite venue that they played, but never saw them there. Ventura Fairgrounds. Saw Phish there a couple times. Turn around and there's the ocean. Freakin' awesome. Did have some sound issues though due to the winds off the beach....

December 31, 1969the professor is hooking you up first set is the current deadpod next week will have the rest

Sheesh. Twenty freakin' years. We miss you, dude. Check out the Facebook thingy with 12/30/77. That's a nice feature for the 50th. Thank goodness so much of the GD was recorded. Life would be very drab without it.

This is from Amazon.de (I've also seen a cached page from Amazon.com but it's not yet on the site) The Best of the Grateful Dead [Double CD] Grateful Dead (Artist) | Format: Audio CD Price: EUR 20,99 Free shipping from 29 EUR (books always free shipping). Details All prices incl. VAT. Pre-order Price Guarantee more information . This item appears on 29 January 2015th Order now. Ships from and sold by Amazon . Gift-wrap available. Disk: 1 1. The Golden Road (To Unlimited Devotion) [2015 Remastered Version] 2. Cream Puff War (2015 Remastered Version) 3. Born Cross-Eyed (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Dark Star (2015 Remastered) [Single Version] 5. St. Stephen (2015 Remastered Version) 6. China Cat Sunflower (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Uncle John's Band (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Easy Wind (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Casey Jones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Truckin' (2015 Remastered Version) 11. Box Of Rain (2015 Remastered Version) 12. Sugar Magnolia (2015 Remastered Version) 13. Friend Of The Devil (2015 Remastered Version) 14. Ripple (2015 Remastered Version) 15. Eyes Of The World (2015 Remastered Version) 16. Unbroken Chain (2015 Remastered Version) 17. Scarlet Begonias (2015 Remastered Version) 18. The Music Never Stopped (2015 Remastered Version) 19. Estimated Prophet (2015 Remastered Version) Disk: 2 1. Terrapin Station (2015 Remastered Version) 2. Shakedown Street (2015 Remastered Version) 3. I Need A Miracle (2015 Remastered Version) 4. Fire On The Mountain (2015 Remastered Version) 5. Feel Like A Stranger (2015 Remastered Version) 6. Far From Me (2015 Remastered Version) 7. Touch Of Grey (2015 Remastered Version) 8. Hell In A Bucket (2015 Remastered Version) 9. Throwing Stones (2015 Remastered Version) 10. Black Muddy River (2015 Remastered Version) 11. Blow Away (2015 Remastered Version) 12. Foolish Heart (2015 Remastered Version) 13. Standing On The Moon (2015 Remastered Version)

It ain't the best of the Dead if it only has one song from Blues for Allah. Not even Franklin's Tower? (Should have Help/Slip too of course). The retort might be, "well, then what would you remove to make room?" How about Miracle and Far From Me? Of course, this is all academic since this isn't aimed at us. But if I were trying to turn a newbie on to the Dead, I'd want some more Blues for Allah stuff... One thing is for sure - this is a reminder that their studio output is better than they get credit for, because there are a lot of songs that could be added to this list. You know, I think I'll pull out some of the albums, starting with Shakedown Street (I got a hankerin' for FRANCE!!!)

More nuggets from one of the greatest time periods in music history. Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven on Sirius today.

France? I hear Jerry, I hear France

oy. how about 6/10/73???

with 6/10 lets add 5/26 as well............73 is fine with me

Yes, the Fillmore West was where the car dealership holds court at the corner of Van Ness and Market Street. There was a side door on Market street just a stones throw from Van Ness for admission up some stairs to the ballroom. The entrance to the door has been removed and plastered over. You can see the door and people in line for a show on the "Fillmore-the last days" concert documentary. (two great live dead songs in that film - Casey Jones, and JBG) I saw two shows there in my early days. I saw a Santana show before they closed it down, and an Airplane/Hot Tuna show after it was re-birthed briefly as "Resurrection". Cool light shows, cool laid back hang out on the floor scene. At the Santana show, I was moved by the intoxicating combination of sounds and light, and it literally changed my life. I have my Dad to thank for giving me and my date a ride to the show, waiting outside, and taking us home to the south bay. nitecat

Claney, I so completely agree, where's the Help>Slip>Franklin's?

Bout this much anticipated TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!

Since we're experiencing a lull, I'll chime in . . . :) Back when the Europe '72 box came out, a friend who knew I loved the Dead sent me the news as it was breaking. Although I had ordered EVERY GD release EVER off Dead.net, I didn't receive the e-mail notice until AFTER the set had sold out (if memory serves), so I still thank my friend for allowing me to order the Europe box in time. Anyway, I was transitioning careers at that time, we were cutting corners, and I was pretty stressed out about not being much of a bread-winner. I almost ordered the box immediately (as was my pre-transition wont), thinking, "This is the greatest thing EVER!", but then thought, "This is the most RIDICULOUS thing EVER!", and changed my mind. Had I been making good money, the decision would have been easy, but I couldn't imagine spending $450 at a time when money wasn't flowing so freely. I agonized the entire day, then sheepishly mentioned it to my wife, who promptly and calmly stated that I would always regret not getting it, and that perhaps I should have it, given that music was my main passion, and that I was very careful with money on a daily basis. I sat down and ordered the set post haste, getting in just a few hours before it sold out. I love that woman! Someone mused as to why they couldn't love jam bands if they loved the Dead. I too have tried the Jam Band station (but rarely find anything of interest), and in 1991-1995 followed Phish and the Panic around, and even saw String Cheese at a CO bar for free with about ten other people on a friend's recommendation. But for me, the reason I can't get into the jam bands is the songs and the musical intent. Garcia, Hunter, Weir, and Barlow wrote songs in the Americana vein, reaching back into American music history for musical and lyrical ideas. And then they allowed those ideas developmental space in a jazz-minded manner. The jam bands to me don't have wonderfully-rich melodies, harmonies, and lyrics that I can bask in repeatedly. They seem to mostly be in a funk groove or heading as quickly as they can for a funk groove. That's part of why I haven't seen Phish since 1995--to my ear they went from being a spacey rock band to being a funk band (that, and the hordes of unwashed masses that started showing up at Phish shows during the Dead's demise). The other thing is that it's all about that bass, 'bout that bass . . . Phil's playing is beautiful and contrapuntal, whereas many of the jam band bass players just go for the funk, which gets tiring to my ears after a song or two. Garcia's playing is magnificent, but it's Phil's bass lines that make much of the magic, as Phil is playing something of an upside-down version of the melodies that Jerry is playing. The jam bands too often just are all playing on the same melodic line, which doesn't create a spacious-enough world for me, especially if I could be listening to Beethoven or Coltrane instead. And Claney--excellent perspective on how the countdown was to the celebratory year of our favorite band and phenomenon, NOT a countdown to a consumeristic opportunity! Happy New Year, all!

Great stuff and really cool transition.

Thanks for the kind words folks. Deadheadbrewer, you married well :) Was I serious about France, absolutely! I love that tune (but no, I would not put it on a "best of" collection). And, on the subject of studio Dead, it's also worth noting that a lot of their best playing in the studio came when they were backing other musicians. Jerry's pedal steel on songs like Teach Your Children and Southbound Train. Or Jerry, Phil, and Billy on Crosby/Nash's "Wall Song" - smoking stuff from Jerry there. Or on Crosby's first solo album. Or some of the Slick Kantner stuff..Or how about their playing backing up Bob on Ace (the jam in Playin' is peak studio Dead). Now that would be an interesting compilation...

I have had many of my friends completely dismiss Phish. A lot of them say simply "I don't like the funk", or "Everything phish plays is funk". THEN I show them an endless amount of Phish that has no funk sound whatsoever. Even at their funkiest in 97/98 Phish was doing a bunch of other stuff including jazz, salsa, ambient, rock etc. So don't dismiss Phish just because its what your "heady/cool" "Deadhead" friends do. I found out over time that a number my "Deadhead" friends, had no idea what the Dead is all about and what goes on musically. The most "heady deadhead" and you cant sit through any of their deep improve, or a song that goes on for more than 5 minutes? Don't listen to any live shows, know any members or albums? I don't think so, I think you like how the skull looks and the association with drugs and being cool. This comment is not directed at anyone here in the comments, just describing some of the people I occasionally have to deal with in my city. I just get tired of poser Deadheads starting nonexistent hate/feuds with/between the Grateful Dead and Phish, its ridiculous and a waste of time. I can only hope that some of these people see the light and start listening to and understanding improvised music. Then a whole world of great music will open up to them. Sorry for the rant.

On the songs 'Laughing' by David Crosby and 'Mind Left Body' by Grace SLick/Katner, is some of my favorite pieces of recorded music.

"I can only hope that some of these people see the light and start listening to and understanding improvised music. Then a whole world of great music will open up to them" Why assume that folks who do not like "jam bands" do not understand improvised music? In my opinion The Dead was never a Jam band; yes they jammed on a lot of their songs, but the songs all started as songs, good songs with melodies and lyrics that were not written with the sole purpose of a jam in mind. I get the impression that the opposite is true for jam bands, start with a jam, then write a song around it.

I haven't read all the comments here, how about a box set of these fabled shows? Granted, the sound check "show" of July 27th is much stronger than the actual event of the 28th, but I like both. All I have in my stash is a rather nice sound check show and an unusual compilation of soundboard, audience, and FM broadcast recording, and all are from multi-generational analogue tapes. A sonic upgrade in store.

I never stated the words jam band or anything like that in the comment. Improvised music can be in many contexts, I just meant these people I know don't understand what improv is and therefor cant fully appreciate it, or in many cases even understand when its going on or what's happening. Great improv can be found in Coltrane, Miles Davis, Fripp, Hillage, Fruscainte not just jambands. That's what I meant by a whole world of music.

Jam on Garth. Happy New Years one and all!

I'll tell you where the four winds dwellIn Franklin's tower there hangs a bell It can ring, turn night to day

The steam is starting to build on this year marking 50 years of this music we love. Phil is spreading the love at the Crossroads and many venues around the globe are joining in. We need a central spot to give updates and tell our stories. Moving around the different sites is a drag. Where is the TerripanStation?

Passenger, I so totally agree. The discussion is always best here when people gravitate to one forum (e.g., the Dave's Picks 11 forum). Critical mass is lost when discussions are spread across several areas (even, and especially, when people get "off topic" and bring up all sorts of things). I do not participate in online discussions anywhere else - I just tend to enjoy the comments from this group (not just about the Dead) more than other groups. So, for what it's worth, I second that call to make it easier for us to all focus on one area (perhaps this one).

great audio, a few cuts. New Potato Caboose and Thats It For The Other One are both very nice. The last few minutes of TIFTOO is classic Dead. I have had this set for quite a while as filler on my copy of 7-8-78 Red Rocks. It is great to finally hear what Dave has had access to. Morning Dew ; New Potato Caboose ; It Hurts Me Too ; Cold Rain And Snow ; Turn On Your Lovelight ; Beat It On Down The Line ; Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment over the last few days Dave has sampled 4-24-66 10-22-67 8-21-68 ,,, all with hearty doses of Pigpen. 1-2-70

Were well stated, written. Nothing left to be said, by me anyways... :)

yo, could we get another countdown until something substantive is announced?

There are tons of bands/artists that stretch out songs and improvise on stage but they are never labeled as a Jam Band or heard on the Jam Band station or whatever... Why not? Who knows/who really cares? I think the main problem is that the bands that generally fall under the "Jam Band" Umbrella aren't the best at songwriting and place most of talents in the jam part...well, it shouldn't be a surprise that if you jam out a boring song, its still going to be boring. I say this but there are some "jam bands" I like but some really are just utterly boring, to me at least. Since I'm posting this post on Dead.net, I obviously think that Garcia/Hunter & Weir/Barlow are some of the best songwriters that ever lived. There were definitely songs that were built with heavy improvising being the main purpose but, for the most part, they were trying to write nice songs and the jams came later (I know some of this was already pointed out in previous post, but its correct). Playing In The Band, Dark Star, & Thats It For The Other One all started out as nice little songs, am I right? I don't really care if a band is considered a jam band or not or jams or not...if they write a good song, I'll listen to them and go to their shows.

Y'all are hitting the nail on the head with the jamband discussion. You're saying what I've been thinking -- that most of them are too quick to go for the easy groove without enough unpredictable exploration in the rhythm section. No one does it like the GOGD and that's a big part of it. The superior songs themselves are another vital ingredient. There are exceptions of course and your mileage will certainly vary. I'll take raggedy old space case Keith Godchaux over that Furthur virtuoso any day. Interestingly, there is a parallel discussion on classical music going on back at the Dave's #11 board (if you can find it). It also favors expression over technical "perfection".

The two things that separate the Dead from other bands, IMHO, are the songs of Hunter/Garcia and thewillingness of the band to go together wherever their collective or individual inspiration led, even if it meant they sometimes got lost along the way. It was that willingness to fail on stage that freed them to achieve the transcendent moments.

Did we really count down the days to get some wallpaper for our computers and phones? I think we were looking for an announcement about something. At least toss us heads a bone to chew on. Peace

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"Did we really count down the days to get some wallpaper for our computers and phones?" Was hoping for some Ringtones! Have a new phone :)

Still waiting for a 30-minute Dark Star ringtone.

I'd like Cumberland Blues for my work iphone...

On an Apple iPhone and Mac, you can make any song you like into a ringtone.Not sure about android. Google it and it's easy to do.........I made a bunch for my iPhone with songs for each person

Now you got me... as I was half-joking with me post... but! google: apple iphone -- how to make any song into a ringtone? good search strategy?

My current ringback tone is Return to Forever's No Mystery...