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    joennn24
    9 years 5 months ago
    Mix
    Listened to KFOG replay and the mix had Trey so out front I couldn't hear the rest of the band. Could just be the radio replay, but I wanna hear Phil, Bobby and the rest of the band. Can't wait to see it at the movie theater on Friday (and maybe Saturday and Sunday)
  • goverlid
    9 years 5 months ago
    Write on, Bros. Stephen & Eric!
    Thanks for my morning eye-opener!!
  • Eric Abrahamson
    9 years 5 months ago
    Fare Thee Well Grateful Dead, Pt. 2
    Watch 'em knock 'em dead in Chicago. I must've gone to at least 100 shows. The first one was in 1966 in the Golden Gate Park Panhandle, or the Furthur Fesival at San Francisco State College, whichever was first. I actually felt like Phil was addressing me personally when he made his speech at the end and thanked everyone for coming out, because I tried to get tickets to as many Phil Lesh and Friends at Terrapin Crossroads shows as I could. He came up to me there and let me say, "Hi," which rock stars don't have to do. However I couldn't afford to follow Bobby around like I used to, and he always lets me know, which is flattering that he invited me. He sang a song about losing money, which is true. He sang some other songs which might have been directed at me, and I instinctively responded by singing along. Then, at the beginning of the last song, "Fare Thee Well, My Honey", "Brokedown Palace", I thought he was like, he wanted me to sing along, so I did, and then he ended it abruptly, got in line with their arms on their shoulders, did their bow, and it was over, but I'm planning to see the live stream of all 3 Chicago shows at Terrapin Crossroads. When I went to UCI in 1987, my dad gave me $100,000/year, an apartment in grad student housing, a car, and a bunch of credit cards on his account. They tracked me into the Information and Computer Science major. Then he came down and took some of the credit cards back, and my sister took all 6 of my Irvine Meadows Grateful Dead tickets. Like William Burroughs wrote, "When did they ever give anything that they didn't take back if they could, and they always could!" and he went to Harvard. I went out and bought 6 more, at the inflated price of $50, for $300, and canceled the aftershow party at my apartmnent I'd posted on the Well. Because of losing the credit cards, I got a bad grade and had to go to CSUB. Laurie Senit moved in, and life was pretty good. We lived across from the campus in an apartment complex with 4 swimming pools and 4 jacuzzis, the 2nd best in town. My parents bought me a brand-new Toyota Tercel. Then my mom said, "We're going to send the two of you to Hawaii. Pick out a hotel from this brochure." I picked the Big Island because I'd been to Maui, and the Kona Hilton because the Dead liked Hiltons. In nearby Paradise Cove the scuba boat captain claimed he was on a first-name basis with Jerry. When Jerry died the Rolling Stone article said his house was in Kona, which I didn't know, and gave the name of his dive shop. I called information and the dive shop, they said it was across the street from the Kona Hilton, and Jerry probably did used to go scuba diving at Paradise Cove. They were showing videos of him scuba diving tonight. That's why I wanted to do it, but I had to do it straight, not being a rock star. I proposed to Laurie on the beach in Kona. We stopped at my parents' house in San Francisco on our way home. My dad, James Abrahamson, had 3 restaurants, Pam Pam East on Geary and Taylor, Rosebud's English Pub next door, and Biff's Coffee Shop on 28th and Broadway in Oakland, and he sold institutional furniture, commission contract sales, for Thonet and American Chair Co., and later Serta Mattress, in the Merchandise Mart on 10th and Market. My mother, Lucille Abrahamson, was elected to the San Francisco School Board twice, two years as President, worked in Mayor Dianne Feinstein's Office of Childcare, and was appointed S.F. Human Rights Commissioner by Mayor Frank Jordan, the former Police Chief. I told them we were engaged and my Dad said, "Don't marry her, I can't afford it. We sold the restaurants to Mama's, they went bankrupt, didn't pay, we went to court, the judge fined me $160,000, and they wanted me to declare bankruptcy." My little brother said later it was his half-partner, Bill Munro, the manager's fault. He abused the help, especially the head cook, who really ran the place, the union went on strike, won so many benefits they had to go out of business and sell it. Munro had cooked the books, the judge saw it, and hence the fine. My dad said it was because I had spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts, but I don't think that was correct, although I may have spent too much money. They wanted me to go to this psychiatrist in Bakersfield, Dr. Perelli-Minetti, who was a nice man. He said the Grateful Dead was OK. He was always telling me expensive restaurants to which to take Laurie, like where he took his wife, and encouraged me to spend lots of money on her, buy expensive dresses, jewelry, etc, so I thought it was OK. He gave me Risperdal when it first came out, in 1994. We didn't really go to that many Grateful Dead concerts. My dad didn't like the Grateful Dead and Bill Graham for other reasons. When I first got back from the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock, I tried to turn him on, he thought about it for a minute and decided no, he was afraid to get busted, he was too square to get on the bus. Later he said that Bill Graham had applied to join their Jewish men's club, the Concordia-Argonaut, on Van Ness and Geary, and that he was going to vote against him. Not only was he a hippie, and made his money that way, but he was an orphan, an immigrant, and a Holocaust survivor. What it really was is that Graham was more successful than him in the role of Jewish businessman. My brother moved to Mill Valley, said he saw Graham's house and was impressed. Graham made more money than all of them, and he started as a hippie, and that filled squares like my dad with jealousy, anger, envy, and rage. My dad said, "I wish the Grateful Dead were dead," in his outrageous way. When Bill Graham's helicopter crashed on the way home from the Concord Pavilion and they had his funeral in my dad's temple, Temple Emanu-el, my dad said, "I hope it didn't hurt the helicopter!" He even hated them during the Haight-Ashbury and helped the City Fathers drive them out of town. My family was spending a lot of money at first, and I thought they were encouraging me to emulate them. When he first gave me the $100,000/year, the credit cards on his account, and sent me to UCI, my dad was acting like he could afford for me to buy anything I saw that I wanted. Then he told not to buy anything over $200, and I complied. They were all spending lots of money. He had 2 new BMW"s and a new Mercedes-Benz. He and my mom went on a temple tour of Eastern Europe and stayed in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, she said it was a five-star hotel. My sister went to Yale after me, in Art, then got a Masters in Art Education at Stanford, an Ed.D. at Harvard, a J.D. at Cal, got a job in the White House as Assistant Chief-of-Staff to Vice-President H.W. Bush in the Ronald Reagan White House and then Founding Chairman of the Barbara Bush Campaign For Family Literacy (me at UCI) in the President H.W. Bush White House. There's a photo of her and Vice-President H.W. Bush having an audience with Pope John Paul in Sweden, and she is shaking hands with the Pope. That dress must have cost something, not to mention the travel. In her closet I saw hundreds of French gowns, and more shoes than Imelda Marcos. She met this guy from the Council of Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., a USC Professor of International Relations, Jonathan Aronson. He went to Harvard and Stanford in Political Science, and his father was a rich St. Louis banker. They bought a mansion in Bel-Air near the Reagans', put in an Italian marble bathtub, baby grand piano, swimming pool, his self-portrait in the living room, pirates' table, Persian rug, and he drove a Jaguar S3. He said, "We're going to Paris for 2 weeks," "I'm going to Thailand to speak," and they had their son's Bar Mitzvah in Bali, so they didn't hold back on the spending. They took the whole family, including me, to the Club Med in Ixtapa, but they went bankrupt because I spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts! My brother spent $2000 of my dad's money for a Rolex watch to keep up with the other Oshos and flew back and forth to India every few weeks for years. They flew me there, to Europe twice, and to Hawaii twice. I guess my dad was having problems, and he asked me to spend less money, but he didn't really communicate that I should spend less money because he was having financial problems. I was spending too much money on Laurie. So I ignored him. So he took away some credit cards, and I kept spending at the same level. I couldn't comprehend that commission contract sales is an up-and-down business. Then two new credit cards, each with a $5000 limit, came in the mail. I should have sent them back, but I couldn't resist the temptation. Soon I realized that I couldn't let my dad find out about them, because he would take them away, too. I set out to get revenge on him for taking away my credit cards by charging even *more* money. The first thing I did was take Laurie to the most expensive restaurant in Los Angeles, Spago's, $140 for salmon for two. Then the 2nd most expensive, Palms in West Hollywood. Then dresses, jewelry, and when we went to Hawaii we did the same thing with the recreation. Maybe *that's* what drove my dad into near-bankruptcy, not the Grateful Dead concerts. We really didn't go to that many. I just spent a lot of money on her. She just liked to go to movies, comedy clubs, country-western dance halls, miniature golf, roller skating, she was always thinking of something. They cut my allowance from $100,000/year to $40,000/year, my sister and brother-in-law, Joan and Jonathan, became "trustees of your trust fund", keep the Blue Cross PPO. They took away all 12 of my credit cards and defaulted on them, leaving me in debt to the credit card companies for $15,000, with bad credit to this day, since 1993. They raised it up to $60,000 and I moved to New Mexico, near the Castagnas who used to live at the Hog Farm. Alberto asked me to call my mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law and ask each of them for $10,000 for a liver transplant for his Hepatitis C because his job as Director of Taos County Ambulances, working his way up from paramedic and EMT, didn't have good insurance. They said no. Maybe that's what set 'em off. They asked me to go to a psychiatrist, who dismissed me. Then Laurie wanted me to come back to Los Angeles and move in to her apartment. They wanted me to find another psychiatrist. I found psychedelic therapist Dr. Robert Newport online at the Island Group in Santa Cruz, referred by Bruce Eisner, but my sister fought with him and he lost his license for prescribing medications, including Risperdal, without seeing the patients. I called him and he said, "Did your sister let up on you yet? I'm not a psychiatrist any more, I'm a painter." So they took me to Dr. Lisa Fine, who also gave me Risperdal, which gave me diabetes. Laurie got it too, from Seroquel. They found the diabetes when a cardiolgist wanted to do an emergency heart surgery,an angiogram and an angioplasty. My brother drove my sister-in-law's Ford Escort to L.A. from Sedona. They said they were going to give it to me. He showed it to me and said, "This is your car." They said they were going to give it to me after the surgeries, but they changed their mind and never did. My car had totally broken down at a job interview in Irvine just a few days before my appointment with the cardiologist, who decided I was going to have emergency heart surgery. When I recovered I stopped by at some friends from the Cubensis shows and they talked me into starting going to shows again, to the Phil Lesh and Friends show and the Ratdog show at the Wiltern, and the Ratdog show at the House of Blues. I'd told Richie on the phone I'd stopped going to shows when Jerry died and he'd said, "I did too." They had a picture of them with the 4 original members in an airport on the way to a concert called The Dead. After that, this psychologist Eric Asa-Dorian from the Life Adjustment Team, probably a drug rehab, they said her mother called, shows up in our living room, posing as a Deadhead, except with more, better tickets than me. Then they got me to go to LAT and I never knew it was a drug rehab, it was disguised as marriage counseling or something. In the end they took the $60,000/year except for meds, medical bills, Anthem Blue Cross PPO, SSI, and put me in Brentwood Manor board-and-care home for two years, I think illegally, before I had learned how to treat the diabetes, so it had developed another complication besides the heart disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetic neuropathy, or diabetic nerve pain, or "burning feet". When they moved me out of Laurie's apartment 12 years ago with the Comcast that was the last time they let me have cable, except for a brief period. No police, no arrest, no charges, no hearing, no trial, no sentence, no jail, no prison, no due process. No evidence or proof that *I* ever did anything wrong, as far as I'm concerned, frames and smears I've never heard, let alone allowed to answer. I said I'd sue all of them for $2 billion for attempted murder, elder financial abuse, false imprisonment, psychiatric torture, medical malpractice, emotional anguish, pain and suffering, and my attorney, Bruce Margolin, who'd been Timothy Leary's attorney (I went to a fundraiser they had at Timothy Leary's house in Beverly Hills when he was running for State Senator), said, "Where'd you get the $2 billion?" so $200 million is more in the range, I think. I had to get a job selling Sprint phones B2B to small businesses in the South, work my way out of there and get some financial aid from Cal State East Bay. I'd been a junior Computer Science major at Cal State Northridge when I was living with Laurie before the surgeries. And Tina Kimmel, a Cal Ph.D. in Social Work I met at the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock got my sister to give me a $68,000 annuity that my dad left me, so that was pretty good, so I got to go to Monterey and Camp Winnarainbow, and they're paying for a lot of things now. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. I'm still a senior Computer Science major and pre-law. Afterwards Alberto died, I called Richie from the board-and-care, he called my sister, I called him back, and he had terminal liver cancer. Alberto flew out and carved his tombstone, and he picked out wood for Tinker to make his coffin, but my sister wouldn't give me $100 to visit him at Camp Winnarainbow before he died. Steve had died of hep C. Then Hunter Thompson committed suicide. When I was going to the LAT psychiatrist to whom they forced me to go, I emailed Cap'n Skypilot to post something I could show him on his office computer, and he wrote a story about a man whose parents he said were responsible for the death of Ken Kesey and the assassination of JFK. When I got up here Vince Welnick committed suicide. I ran into Lou Todd, then he got sick and died, and then Tinker, who I once saw drive the Furthur bus. Charlene said her landlady wouldn't rent her house anymore, she moved in with her daughter; her other daughter got accused of murder, and she didn't do it. Laurie's elementary schoolteacher friend's apartment caught on fire and they blamed her. My Deadhead lawyer friend said his SUV caught on fire. I can't figure out the reason for all this. I would be interested if anybody, especially with legal knowhow, had any helpful advice. I'm thinking of appealing to my Yale classmates, to see if any of them are big-time lawyers yet, and I don't think any Democratic politicians have seen it, since most of them don't have email addresses. They were telling people I was dying, but the doctors said my numbers were good, so you can't die from controlled diabetes, maybe it was just wish-fulfillment. And Jerry famously died of a diabetic heart attack in a drug rehab, maybe someone got ideas. While I was in Brentwood the lawyer sent me a copy of the trust instrument where my parents had initialed that when my mom dies, the inheritance, which it originally says was divided into thirds between me, my brother, and sister, they rubbed me out and divided it in half between my brother and sister. She'll get my mom's house worth about $2 million, and she has a $4.3 million house in Bel-Air, and a house in Telluride, and my dad bought my brother a house in Sedona. I was living in Laurie's apartment. My brother will get my dad's commercial property in Oakland, a tire and party store. And there's some money they'll divide in half. Eric Abrahamson Yale University Class of '71 Pierson College
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Nice commentary guys. I usually enjoy my Sundays....Today I'm just going to trudge off thru the snow(again) to church soon and try to find some peace while morning the death of my #3 Best Friend ever. I will miss you all...
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On sale date has come and gone. CID and TM sounded like a joke but I didn't have the cash anyway since my money orders are still out there somewhere. No pink slip, no confirmation email, no money orders cashed, no responses from GDTS. Is there still hope or has the deal gone down?
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The motivation behind Dead 50 is to make every last penny for he grateful dead machine . I have realized for a long time they are just a business . They have lived the good life off of poor slobs .They branded them selves wonderfully to a select dedicated group and then they got cool 'Touch' and they cashed in nicely to the point that Jerry passed with the touring schedule they had to keep up Last I checked the grateful dead broke up in 1995 . How is this a 50 year anniversary anyway?. Does that work when you get divorced . Your anniversary continues? This Fare thee well tour is for there retirement fund or trust fund for there kids . They are for a bunch of 70 year olds riding off into the sunset. These last shows are a Joke But Mark My Words they are not done with the cash grab. They will put at least one of these shows on Pay Per View to maximize there profits. That sell will be couched with the standard BS that they are doing it for all the Deadicated fans .. Fork over 50 bucks and you can watch the shows on Pay Per per view will all your friends. In God we Trust ...all others pay cash... Good Riddance
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The motivation behind Dead 50 is to make every last penny off the grateful dead . I have realized for a long time they are just a business . They branded them selves wonderfully to a select dedicated group and then they got cool 'Touch' and they cashed in heavy Now you can only sell about 16,000 new cd's Daves Picks this is a nice cash infusion to push these senior citezens to retire once and for all Mark my words there is still one more big cash grab coming for these final shows. They will put at least one of these shows on Pay Per View to maximize there profits
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If you want a ticket, and can put aside the raw feelings, For around 1,000k in a full view section 100,, Ticket network has a few. Maybe there is a decent way to Rationalize this if you choose to go that route. For one, that kind of money for one night can equate to money that might have been spent over a few shows, if the tours kept on keeping on. Think about your savings now in that case!!!!
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I was thrilled by this last chance to see the band. (My one and only live experience with GD was their Stockholm show in 1990.) And I did everything to get tickets through the official chanels the band had set up. The Ticketmaster parody of yesterday was really humiliating. The same second as the sale started there where only the worst seat on sale (who will sit behind the stage anyway?) What does that mean? Obviously the band had decided to allocate the big bulk of tickets to the scalper market and to the 1%-ers who can afford the ”CID experience” junk. This is not in the spirit of good ol´ Grateful Dead. I am hugely disappointed. Still, life goes on ... and the Swedish Summer is not that bad after all.
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still no word from GDTSTOO just would like to knw where our MO are??????T only thing i can think is i left my e-mail off the card WHICH I DID NOT please let us know where our money is.The TM and CID were a joke not very fair.
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Like many of you, I still have unused tickets in my possession that were bought just before Jerry died. Never really had closure. I was hoping this could round off those ruff edges that have been there for going on 20 years. I sat and waited, with what felt like the entire world, on line for Ticket Master yesterday. Virtual line numbers counting down then up again only to go back down. At one point I was staring at where I believed I was actually going to be, side stage section ? row 200 something sets seats 16, 17 for the 3 day package. Credit card information put in, diligently checked for errors quickly, all good. Now the exciting moment came to hit the complete transaction button. I was freaking out. It's all coming true. Then the button was hit and the page kicked us out. Great system!!!! I had to get straight in and wait in the virtual line once more only to be told over and over, "error, there are no tickets to match this description". Serious fail. I was in only one more button to complete. Plus I have a ticket master account, the system would not let me auto fill all my info to speed the process up. I had to put it all in again. Thanks for letting me purge.
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I've been reading lots of the posts and understand people frustrations as I am frustrated as well. Mail ordered 1/20 for 2 tix to July 4th or anything available (did not go for the most expensive tix) but I would take 2 tix to any night. No email, no pinky, no nothing so far. I tried yesterday for 30 minutes and then had to go to a family function. Does not sound like it would have mattered if I had wasted more time waiting on Ticketmasters website. I do know people who mailed in separate envelopes for each night and got more than one filled. I know that the folks at GDTSTOO were overwhelmed. I'm just wondering why some people got multiple tickets or multiple orders filled while people like me who just wanted to see one last show got nothing (I'm assuming my chances are slim to none now but who knows?)? I know that there are plenty of people out their like me. Disappointed in Vermont.
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Lance ArmsrongA-Rod Sammy Sosa Mark McGuire Tiger Woods Roger Clemens And many more i can't think of this late And ladies and gentlemen the latest to join the list of "having a great career that people idolize, only to let your fans down in the end" The surviving members of The Grateful Dead.............Congratulations! If ever there was a band that had a connection to its fans. Album sales plummeted, the general public despised you, it was damned near illegal to like you. We, the fans loved you, carried you through, without US none of this was possible. Sure you have the talent, but the fame and fortune bestowed on you all was granted by your fans, not the part timers or college frat boys, but the true fans. You know us, we're the ones that were strung along this process willing to pay the $3000 package prices, the ones who await envelopes,emails,and waste hours upon hours planning logistics and so on for events, kinda like mommies on black friday, and you know we're diligent. You have now played us like pawns and treated our hard earned cash like it was hooker night on capitol hill. Very disrespectful, you would have made a shit ton just by simply letting us fight for tickets and letting it sell out the good old fashioned way, YOU know you could have kept the mass ticket outlets away. Instead you insisted on PUSHING this out of control while driving prices up at the above saids expense. If I were in your presence i would THROW MY SHOE AT YOU LIKE THAT ONE DUDE DID TO GEORGE W. BUSH SHAME ON YOU ALL
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R.I.P. Jerry
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It is Sunday morn and snowing in Maryland. Gotten over the disappointment of not getting tix in any of the offerings. I'm gonna put on a good attitude, wish everyone well who got their miracle and know everything happens for a reason. I have a great room in Chicago...so I am going to road trip anyway... and hang in the lot if that is all I can manage...Maybe I will pull a few tie dyes from the old stock and hang em on a stick at shakedown like back in the day. No matter where we are, we can be kicking up our heels that weekend, to the music that is in our hearts...that music lives on...even as everything else...just fades away. Hugs Brothers and Sisters...wipe your tears and let the music play.
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A Stranger in the Parking Lot One day, a short time after Jerry died, a man came up to me in the parking lot @ the Great Woods concert venue in Mansfield, Massachusetts to talk to me about my T-shirt. My T-shirt had Jerry's face on it with his birth date and the death of his passing. The shirt stated, "We're Grateful!" I was GIVEN this T-shirt in the parking lot @ the RatDog show @ the Club Casino concert venue in New Hampshire as a gift. This is relevant because it was Wednesday, August 9th, 1995, that was the day that Jerry died and I drove up to New Hampshire to be with my people because I was so upset that Jerry had died. I remember thinking how strange it was that I was so overwhelmed at the death of someone that I had never met. The stranger @ Great Woods parking lot needed to speak to another member of our community the same way that I did that night when Jerry passed. The stranger in the parking lot was devastated. He was devastated because he was a little lost. Where would we ever be able to experience this phenomenon that was a Grateful Dead concert? Where would we be able to feel so comfortable amongst so many like minded people? Where could you share a safe night of music and perhaps psychedelics, if that was your pleasure? Where else would someone else apologize for spilling your drink? Where else would we see all those smiles, smiles, smiles...:) :)? The stranger in the parking lot felt this loss and I had needed to talk to someone also, especially with another DeadHead. We both talked, even acknowledged the fanaticism of the whole "scene." We were both strangers to each other, but not really. We were connected by this weird and wonderful music, but more importantly, to an idea and a concept to live in peace and acceptance. Yeah, it's pie in the sky and all that, but DeadHeads were able to go to a nice, comfortable world for short periods of time to conscientiously open ourselves up to be happy. In this crazy ass world, there was no better place to go! So, to my stranger in the parking lot> Thanks for saying hello and sharing and helping me when there was nothing cooking in this "scene" in the period right after Jerry died. Thanks to the HUNDREDS of DeadHeads that I have spoken to, danced with, smiled to and at, passed one to, passed me one, sold me a "chocolate", begged me for a beer, showed me your "blotter," sang Terrapin w/ me, sang the silocybin song next to me, but most of all for sharing something that I really can not find the right adjective to describe...I have loved the ride so far :) :).... Owen McElhinney Quincy, Ma DeadHead since 1980/ 1st show Lewiston, Maine
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There will be dancin', dancin' in the streets of Chicago. Keep the peaceful vibes going - that's what it's all about. The Music Never Stopped... I wonder what would have been said 20+ years ago if the internet was available when folks didn't get their tickets then. Were they mad at the band? I wasn't! The times I didn't get tickets at the moment of sale did happen back then yet I still managed to find a miracle somewhere. Everyone seems to be mad at the band, what's up with that? They are mad at ticket prices (all ticket prices are different than 20 years ago). They are mad at Bears fans - all major venues give season ticket holders the right of first refusal, that's the way it is. I know plenty of my Brothers and Sisters that got tickets through Bears fans so they didn't ALL go to scalpers. They are mad at Ticketmaster yet how can you be more fair than Ticketmaster? They do all the shows for everyone and is the best way today to get tickets out for any concert. Just how would you have provided tickets for people for an event like this? Provide them only for "true" deadheads? How would you quantify that? Perhaps you're mad at me because I got tickets and am talking about it. Well just maybe it wasn't luck at all for me but karma. Be Kind. Be Grateful. Be the kind of DeadHead that Bobby talks about. Be the Jerry to everyone that sees you. Be the organ donor for Phil. This darkness got to give...
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Its sad, but ultimately this WILL tarnish their image permanently. Something us fans know that the band might not.......... Deadheads have spent their ENTIRE grateful dead lives defending ourselves and the band from the general public the fact that we like the band.........................The general public laughs at, rolls their eyes at, dislikes/hates, passes judgement, and basically mocks the entirety of it. In the past people like me would stand up, tell those people were they can stick it............fast forward to today. The next time(which is quite often) i hear someone bashing the dead i will simply add to the end of their conversation" AND THEN THEY FUCKED US". This may seem simple and insignificant now, but trust me, in the long run, the amount of us that have been scorned will come back to bite them in the ass. This show will go on, it will be a huge success as far as numbers, and that is where it starts..........the public once again will be speaking of the dead, and those of us who where scorned, far far far more than weren't, will start to tell these people who are amazed that the dead could pull this off our stories. Once they realize what they did to their fans it will further their disgust with the band....but have nobody to stick up for them. Its kinda like the kid who is bullied at school but luckily, is protected by his older brother........now the bully is looking for a fight and big brother has moved on to high school...good luck After all, all celebrities ultimately care A LOT what the public remembers them as.... and like i said....they'll end up paying in the long run......such a shame.
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One show in Golden Gate Park? Pretty please?
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Put an envelope in another envelope, add an index card, go to the post office for two separate money orders,decorate an envelope, stir and wait. And wait,, And wait, and wait. Someone has my $900 and I still do not have tickets. I couldn't afford to go online because someone has my $900 and I don't have tickets. For me, the true last Dead show was at the Franklin County Airport in Vermont. Almost 90,000 people found their way to this remote location. Jerry died a month later. In spite of the enormous amount of money I have tied up in this endeavor, I have not a whit of reply. I'm glad I used registered funds, cuz this is starting to feel like mail fraud.
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Don't know what I am anymore. After I got shut out yesterday on TicketScalper, I've been dealing with mixed emotions about this whole thing. Some how managed to stay Grateful after yesterday's bullish!t. Even after they changed how it's going down 50 times throughout the process. When they stopped the box office sales and outlet sales, then phone sale, I knew it was Fu¢ked!! I could go on all day cause I'm ranting, cut to the chase,I mailed out VERY early on the 20th, did everything exactly right. Want 2 tix for 3nights. Got rejected. My buddy called me this morning from the other coast and told me he got a conformation email Friday evening. He sent for 1 ticket to 3 nights but mailed out on Wednesday, the 21st at 10am. I love the boys, but they lost in on this one.. My thoughts on Shapiro just did a 360!!!! I'm out. Peace!
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Seriously, so many of you are acting like this crap has never happened before. I've been shut out of concerts for years now to so many of my favorite artists. Yet, instantly there are tickets on every other secondary market site, including one owned by Ticketmaster!! The system has been so insanely corrupted and everyone turns a blind eye to the fact that the secondary market, which used to be illegal mind you, has been allowed to become so powerful that the regular fan has just about no choice but to pay their exorbitant prices if they really want to see their artist of choice. Nobody wants to regulate it, nobody wants to punish these companies for having an unfair advantage nor for price gouging the ticket buying public...it's just ignored. Do you honestly think that these four guys who have played in this band for 50 years have any clue what's it like to be home waiting in front of a computer struggling against this unfair system? None of them know what it's like, so they don't push against it so much. Give the Dead credit for even attempting a mail order system to try and give their real fans a shot. At least it's something. You want to play live music for your fans in just about any city in America, you have to use the ticket mafia, there's no choice. And it's been allowed to grow in a ridiculously unjust manner. There's no other industry to my knowledge that price gouges as much as the legal scalping industry or has such an astronomically unfair advantage. Don't blame the band. Blame the ticket scalpers and the ticket agencies and the lack of regulation that they benefit from. I've never bought a ticket from a Stub Hub type site. I've never sold one there and I never will. It's ruined the concert going experience for everyone and no one seems to want to address that fact.
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20+ years ago, if there was internet, when the deadheads found out that the band skipped them and sold straight to scalpers the people would have screamed FUCK YOU!!!!!!!! the internet is the reason the band was able to gauge our interest,lure us in to this event, then spike the prices. They couldn't have accomplished this 20 yrs ago......................now that you mention it, good point, i wonder.........would they have done this to us back then if they could have? none of us would have been here in the first place if they did? I wonder
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Not so, bands choose ticketmaster. Do your research, ticketmaster has direct interest in secondary markets, the band has direct interest in ticketmaster, its a vicious circle, but a circle the band CHOOSES. Don't be so naive. It used to like you say WHEN SCALPING WAS ILLEGAL, but like you said its not anymore, so do you honestly think that the bands and ticketmaster stand pat while the scalpers run rampant? really? hell no, THEY USE IT TO THERE FULL ADVANTAGE......which is fine with me..........IF THEY WOULD JUST ADMIT IT! PUSSIES
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My 1st shows were back to back nights at RFK stadium in DC July of 1986 with Bob Dylan and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers on the bill. Saw many shows after that in Alpine Valley and Chicago and luckily I went to the last show in 95. I still remember how tired Jerry looked when they would flash his face on the big screen as he was singing. Continue to Rest in Peace my friend and thank you for the ride! There was never an easy way to get seats for a popular show and Ticketmasterfuck has a proven track record of not delivering. I remember the shitty feeling of not getting Who tickets in 75' to see the original members for a Chicago date and I stood in line for that one. I tried to splurge for a hotel package on Friday thinking it would be easier to score some seats than the Saturday cluster. I also helped open the Westin River North in 1987 and worked there 4 years so a return to Soldier Field and my old hotel was in the cards. What a joke! Nothing available. I can't even spend more money than I want to when I want too. So I thought ok I should get at least a pair online Saturday. How could a long time fan not get a few tix to dance the night away one more time on the 4th of July in one of the greatest cities in the world which also happens to be my hometown! There must be at least 2 available or worst case scenario 1. It is a football stadium and home of Da Bears yes? Well I think I submitted my request about 11:06 after having trouble getting in promptly at 11am. The clock got down to 11 minutes 4 separate times and then jumped way back up. I am now empty handed like a lot of my friends posting here. Amazingly thousands of seats are immediately available through the resellers. Are we not better than this? I think technology has come along way since 1975 but I could be wrong. I WILL be at Soldier Field on the 4th of July and I will be dancing I guarantee you. If anyone has GA pit tickets to let go please contact me. To the Ticketcluster organization all I can say is YOU SUCK BLUE WHALE DICK!! Wave that flag, wave it wide and high Peace out*
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I am one of the many with no pink slip, no email, no money orders and almost a Grand in limbo...somewhere.. What I will never understand is why were the folks at GDTSTOO so unprepared for what went down... they were by their own admission... but why? Did they NOT think there may be a HUGE response by Heads all over the world? I'm an idiot and I knew... The handling of this situation was both embarrassing, pathetic, non professional and disrespectful to fans that have supported them over the years... Even IF I had some concrete info of where I stood now on the First of March, I would feel the same way... This reminds me of a High School bake sale, not a ticket distribution of one of the greatest Bands in musical history... To make people send in Money orders, (I have done it for years) hold them, don't communicate and then open Ticketmaster sales WITHOUT either returning those money orders in time for those folks to try at the online sales, or communicating with them is un imaginable... The persons at the DEAD Organization should publicly apologize to everyone involved.. This is ALL inexcusable. All of it.... S*&T trickles down hill..... The bands members are ultimately responsible... for them to remain silent further exposes the total distancing of the Band from their fans.. SPS... The whole reason for the mail order was to prevent Scalpers from obtaining a great deal of tickets... and to allow the fans to get ahold of them... For the most part, this has failed miserably...hame on them.. This wreaks of a total money grab... At this point I just want my money back, don't even feel like going anymore... I'm done with them... maybe for good.. This will be the first thing I think of when listening to the music...
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I'm hoping the band will have something to say soon. Anything at this point. We all knew it was going to be a blood bath, most of us not to this degree. Time to speak up boys. We would like hear your side. Then we can decide what we want to believe.
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So many feelings this morning after over a month of patiently waiting and being hopeful, staying positive, rolling with the punches of checking the mail box, email, CID and ticketsheister nightmare- the worst by far is that I trusted it would be ok to send my MO in the mail. Still not knowing and now can't help but to worry if I will ever see that $700 again. As a preschool teacher that money was not saved without major sacrifice, like so many of you. So to Cain1974, even if it was possible to rationalize paying $1000 for one night, I would never do it because I don't want to be part of the problem. Not trying to be self-righteous but at some point people need to say no, enough, and not participate in being ripped off or it will just get worse and worse. Bands need to stand up for their fans and not participate with ticketbastard, or at the very least make the tickets accessed by credit card that you need to show at time of entry- other bands have done that why not the Dead- who cares if it takes forever to get in the show- at least you didn't get ripped off in the process. My apologies for the rant, it is therapeutic, thanks for listening. I am sure I could dig it up but feeling so deflated, if anyone has Elvis' email address please share it because for what it is worth I would like to attempt to get some info. about whether or not they are done sending emails and if I should begin the process of trying to get my money back.
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Your exactly right........Their silence speaks a million words...............
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elvis@gdtstoo.com Same situation here $1300 in money orders just disappeared! Probably never see it again!!!!
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Go to the page to submit "YOUR STORIES OR ART WORK' and click on and read the TERMS and Conditions. Just the first sentence.Rhino Entertainment Company a wholly owned subsidiary of Warner Music Group is the only official Licensee of Grateful Dead Productions.....
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Wife and I each sent in ticket requests. Both not cashed, no pink slips, no emails, no responses to multiple emails to Elvis, nothing...Chances were 1 in 10 so it seems odd that both our requests are MIA.
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just to play, an extension cord ran into an apartment, the band on a flatbed truck, a free show, just to play. we have come a long way baby. a long, long strange trip indeed
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What choice? Ticketmaster has an essential monopoly on this industry. Maybe LiveNation? Oh wait...that's TicketMaster also. Who else is going to handle such a huge demand? Which is fine...if they managed to fight against the price gouging scalper industry...which they don't and won't because it benefits them. They own their own scalping site!! How can you defend that? A few years back, they got caught during a Springsteen sale. They were claiming the show was sold out and instantly sending you to their new secondary site that was already flooded with tickets at exhorbitant prices...but the show wasn't sold out yet. They called it a computer snafu. That's a little convenient for them don't you think. Lets remember Pearl Jam fought this battle and lost. They got muscled out of venues by the ticket mafia. If you don't think that the ticket mafia exists and is THE problem, then you're missing something. Sorry, this is not the bands sole fault. The ticket buying and selling system is so screwed up, but it's the only one in place so everyone just accepts it.
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For all that are in limbo and want your money back, just go to the USPO and put a stop on your money order, it might take a few weeks, but you will get your money back. GDSTOO will not be able to cash them....
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For all complaining about not getting tix, where were all of you the last 15 years seeing the band in every capacity they provided, including the core four. I was at many shows where you walk by an empty ticket office with tickets for sale. Seriously the band is not in this for the money. Nor am I, thats why i have not sold my tickets to stub hub... the band did not either
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I spent a few hours yesterday like so many others trying to score on Ticketmaster. Nope. Didn't happen. I'm still waiting to hear on my MO, so there is hope. If I do get lucky and receive a confirmatory email, I'll be spending the 4th of July weekend with family in Chicago, celebrating my 21st wedding anniversary with them, and then taking my father to at least one of the shows I put in for through GDTSTOO. If no dice on Chicago, I've got plenty of memories of the many amazing shows I caught through the 80s and 90s as well as numerous P&F, Ratdog, Further, and Other Ones shows in the aftermath of the Grateful Dead (i.e., sans Jerry). At least during this GD anniversary year, I can celebrate the milestone of Phil's 75th birthday. I have tix to see him at the Capitol Theater on 3/15. Taking a good friend with me to that one.
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In all the years you did mail order, when did GDTS cash your money order without sending you a ticket? Never, that's when. I don't think they'll start now. I haven't gotten an e-mail or a pink slip yet. One or the other will happen. Call me naïve if you want, but isn't having a little faith what the whole mail order bag was about in the first place? I was lucky enough to score a 3-day-behind-the-stage from TM. That makes me happy. If I DO win the GDTS lottery, I'll sell them face value. There will be other folks that will be glad to have them.
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I am sure TT has a conspiracy theory for my question, but how does the band benefit from secondary market sales? Why would the band divert tickets to a place like stub hub? Tickets are sold at the stated price. The band gets their cut (if it is part of the contract). If the ticket is resold, the band gets nothing. I am sure you will tell me that they get a kickback for every ticket sold regardless of the channel. And to state a fact - stub hub is owned by Ebay. TM is not a listed partner unlike the Bears. As for the MO's, you will get your money back. They received a ton of orders and I am sure they took a break. Once the on sale dates hit, the urgency to get back to everyone was reduced. Stop crapping on the band and GDTS.
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Jeffmon the question is can YOU be stopped ..............
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well said my friend!
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I am not complaining about the tickets but the way things were handled.. It's 2015.... If you can not communicate OFTEN about the state of the situation...when so many are both asking, and they know people are wondering, is simply inexcusable in this day and age... How long does it take to write a small paragraph explaining the situation at hand on a particular day... This should be done at the end of at LEAST every second day... And, an explanation of where millions of dollars of peoples money is...and when it will be returned... This is paramount to settling things down before they get to this point... Now that we have arrived here, send out some information... or, is that simply too much to deal with.... Heres a hint... use a computer, an internet connection and some wits.... I am sure you folks can handle that.. This is all common sense 101...
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my love for the scene and the music stops me....
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Are you really so naive to believe that just because a secondary outlet isn't owned by ticketmaster that deals weren't made previously to get tickets to stub hub etc.? Someone obviously gave 90% of the non bears tickets to them, there were none for sell on ticketmaster, only behind the stage and side. What you are trying to defend doesn't exist. And again, THEIR SILENCE SAYS IT ALL!!!!!
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Well, buddy it sounds like you are just upset because you haven't gotten a pink slip yet...which means you may have been one of the lucky ones. I have to say this man, for your comments about where were we the last 15 years, well, we were there. Maybe not in these numbers, but we were there. Thanks for noticing. I was the guy selling cans of beer before the show...perhaps you saw me, perhaps you bought a beer, perhaps we shared one together because I had one and you didn't have the $2 I was asking but were a head in need...but then again, perhaps not. We were the ones that were saddened to see Bobby have problems, we were REALLY saddened with Bobby stopped touring for health reasons, we were also the ones who understood that they are all aging and cannot realistically keep doing this forever. What we are complaining about - are the people who are doing this solely for money. Those that are buying tickets solely to cash in. The ones that would take advantage of a community, no, family like ours knowing that this means everything to us - like it does the band. We are the ones that subscribe to Dave's Picks, listen on LMA, live and breath by Dave's Picks. So to you, I think you should rethink your comments. We are the ones that have stood by the band through thick and thin. We are the ones on Shakedown street offering rides to the next city - for whatever guys like you could pay in return, which was sometimes just friendship. Peace
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THIS is the true definition of DEAD AIR... For those wondering...
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GDTSTOO probably received about 80,000 envelopes. Probably more. It was an incredible effort to put together for some of us to remember the days before there was a secondary market like stub hub. I understand the frustration of not knowing the status of your mail order and trying to get tickets for the first 5 minutes that ticket master was selling them. Go stop your money orders and you will not be in limbo anymore... or keep the faith that once this is all sorted out you might get your tickets
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The fact of the matter is most of us have 4 months to figure out just exactly how and where we want to spend 4th of July weekend, 2015. Just work with what you've got and have fun doing it. No more poopy talk!
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properlejdi, thank you for the $2 beer, after the shows it is always the best beer ever, yes you did give me a free one as well thank you my friend.
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the Band isn't making the money, ticketmaster/stubhub is, why were ticket prices a moving target? I have never heard of such a thing. Now they can resell at whatever the market will bear, and we have shown ourselves as real suckers regarding what some of are willing to pay. of course stub hub will take your money faster than the balloon boys in the lot.the band isn't doing this but they set the stage for those that are, and they could stop it (or could have when we saw where was headed) They could have bypassed ticketmaster and sold to us by mailorder, 1 head sends 1 order for one ticket, fill them THEN release to general market, judging from GDTSTOO's reaction to our numbers it would have been fine play a bigger venue, why the hangup with soldier field, because the last time they played there was it a great show? sending those of us in limbo some kind of update would be nice
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We should not have to put stops on the money orders and spend more valuable time dealing with this... thats my point... a few people in a home dealing with this has caused this situation as we all know... they should of expected this... 80,000 envelopes or more... Communicate.... First order of business... I don't care WHAT business...big or small... If people are STILL in the pipeline to actually receive tickets, tell us so we don't have to put stops on money orders still in the system to be filled... duh....